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Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)

 
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Chaol,

Would you ever consider the possibility that you are a human like all of us on earth, but that for some reason your egotism has gone delusional?
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Chaol,

Would you ever consider the possibility that you are a human like all of us on earth, but that for some reason your egotism has gone delusional?
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Or maybe you are ration and normal, but you like your entertainment to covey some viable and interesting ideas along with pure insanity.
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Hi chaol,

I am not afraid to admit, I failed to learn your lesson before you explained your goal. I think the main reason we look for doom on GLP, is the hope that the world we know will drastically change, and through chaos or conflict, change for the better.

I've always admired the quote, "Conflict breeds consciousness".

But anyway, it's great to be here :)

I've been trying to wrap my brain around ecsys for over a year now. I believe I understand the concepts that ecsys proposes, but my problem is failure to incorporate it into my everyday life. I've tried using the genius before but I never created anything physical per se, I only made a couple drawings that I would apply a specific meaning to. I would love to post one on here but I don't have a camera, maybe I will try using my phone later today.

Well, mainly just saying hi chaol :)

Regards

Matt
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Thanks, Matt.

But keep in mind that with the genius you have to create something physical. Otherwise, it cannot be mapped to your physical world (which includes what you call mental, emotional, psychological, spiritual, etc.)
 Quoting: Chaol


I hope my example can help:

I described your "The Genius" to my brothers and a couple good friends yesterday and I used "Getting a Job in your field" (as they are all unemloyed college grads)

I explained (with your website up) the following:

"The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime."

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.

Create a resume', portfolio, buy clothing that someone in your field would wear.


2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.


Send the pieces of paper off to possible employers (creating possibility for interaction)


3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity


Visit, call or frequent places where the people in your field (possible employers) are, show your work, talk to people about what you do. Contact the people/places you've sent resume's to.


5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

Speak and behave as one would in your field, wear the clothing you purchased.


I know, it's simple and it's just an example, but the group I was speaking with was very receptive.
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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Chaol,

Would you ever consider the possibility that you are a human like all of us on earth, but that for some reason your egotism has gone delusional?
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Or maybe you are rational and normal, but you like your entertainment to covey some viable and interesting ideas along with pure insanity.
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Hi chaol,

I am not afraid to admit, I failed to learn your lesson before you explained your goal. I think the main reason we look for doom on GLP, is the hope that the world we know will drastically change, and through chaos or conflict, change for the better.

I've always admired the quote, "Conflict breeds consciousness".

But anyway, it's great to be here :)

I've been trying to wrap my brain around ecsys for over a year now. I believe I understand the concepts that ecsys proposes, but my problem is failure to incorporate it into my everyday life. I've tried using the genius before but I never created anything physical per se, I only made a couple drawings that I would apply a specific meaning to. I would love to post one on here but I don't have a camera, maybe I will try using my phone later today.

Well, mainly just saying hi chaol :)

Regards

Matt
 Quoting: JustAnotherExperience


Thanks, Matt.

But keep in mind that with the genius you have to create something physical. Otherwise, it cannot be mapped to your physical world (which includes what you call mental, emotional, psychological, spiritual, etc.)
 Quoting: Chaol


I hope my example can help:

I described your "The Genius" to my brothers and a couple good friends yesterday and I used "Getting a Job in your field" (as they are all unemloyed college grads)

I explained (with your website up) the following:

"The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime."

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.

Create a resume', portfolio, buy clothing that someone in your field would wear.


2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.


Send the pieces of paper off to possible employers (creating possibility for interaction)


3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity


Visit, call or frequent places where the people in your field (possible employers) are, show your work, talk to people about what you do. Contact the people/places you've sent resume's to.


5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

Speak and behave as one would in your field, wear the clothing you purchased.


I know, it's simple and it's just an example, but the group I was speaking with was very receptive.
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Wow thanks for the help! Your examples are great because anyone can relate to them!

I'm gonna brainstorm what I want and thoroughly think about the process.. hmm

Thanks again for the help :)
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The short of it (as I know that most of you don't actually read something longer than 4 lines)...

Yes, it was a lesson. (And we all failed.)

And, yes, I am who I say I am (but have no need to prove it, much to your disappointment).

Friends?
 Quoting: Chaol



Good to have you back Chaol.


You include yourself in the failing of this lesson, could you please expand on that?


How do we fail a lesson? Don't we fail a test? (in asking that I am not being pedantic)


Knowing us all as intimately as you do, none of our reactions would have been unexpected to you. So essentially you were just holding a mirror, giving us an opportunity to reflect upon ourselves. Is that all?


Are you recruiting people? Putting feelers out for a certain type? For what purpose I havn't a clue, but I felt compelled to ask the question.


Are there to be further installments on this lesson? I am not exactly sure what we have learned as yet. I know we are all capable of great change within ourselves....was this intended as a potentially enlightening moment for some/all? If so, was it a success?


I would love to explore the how and the why of all this with yourself Chaol, and the other participants.
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I like your posts, Curve.
I've added you to my buddy list :)
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Much of what Chaol is speaking reminds me of higher Buddhist metaphysics.

Namo Amitabha.
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You may be right, friend... But for me this doom that Chaol said, was only to confirm if he is the real deal, understand?

[snips]
 Quoting: Gespenst


My words will tell you if I am the "real deal" or not.

However, if I told you exactly what will happen when, you and others would no longer listen to the meaning behind my words.

(We'd simply ask for more predictions.)

And that is important for me to have already known.
 Quoting: Chaol


Hi Chaol :)

I have to say that I was expecting something to happen in October 1st, but I'm not disappointed because 'nothing' happened.

I just wish for changes in this world, you know? I'm not happy with the way I live. I'm not happy with what this society offers to me. I just want to be happy, but instead I'm forced to do things that bore me... It's everything about money!

I have some questions for you...

You are the only one of your world in our world? I remember reading of some friend of you, but and the others? They know what is happening here?

And about the Mayans, what you can say about they? And about their calendar?

And it's really hard to me to express myself in english, so sorry for my mistakes! :D
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Yet another absolute FAIL.
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What if the "evil" ruling "elite" are "us?"

These "evils" are "external" manifestations of our "internal" world, our perspective? If you consider this, then there is no such thing as "unfair."

We can complain, point fingers, and blame others for the "problems" (challenges) we have in our individual lives (perspective) and the world (also perspective)... or we can accept it is as it is.

Once we accept it and set it to a symbol, we can consider the logic (structure) associated with it, consider the possibility (options we have to change it), interact with said possibilities to work toward a "world," "reality" or "paradigm" (an overarching symbol from perspective) that allows us to exist outside of the constraints of the majority of the population (while taking into consideration all of the relationships between perspectives, also a symbol)

This may sound ridiculous to some from their perspective, but try it on, think about it, pretend it applies to you (I think you'll be surprised).

We can go to "work," do our "mundane jobs," do the "best we can with what we have" if we just simply stop looking for what is "wrong" externally (from perspective) and start noticing "what's right" (from perspective). Then we can change it to fit preference (from perspective), opportunities will arise to leave non-preferred parts of our lives behind, opening up new possibilities for interaction.
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Very well said.

We cannot see beyond our own perceptions. (That's all we can possibly know.)
 Quoting: Chaol


So I should just basically pretend like nothing is going on, and forget that my government is oppressing me, against the law of the land, without impunity? Hell, an American Citizen was just assassinated this week, and the media is cheering it on like blood sucking vampires. I should just be ok with that?
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Do I know the innermost details of every person that posts in this forum? Yes. (Read my posts carefully and perhaps you will see a glimpse of it.)
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Ants.
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Hi Chaol,

I have learned more from you than anyone else on GLP. Thank you for everything you give, and continue to give. I find your words authentic and genuine, and I am glad you are here with us :)
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Thank you :)

It's always a pleasure to be here.
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:)

Hey Chaol, any word on that app for either Android or IOS?
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Well Chaol, I must say I just keep getting more and more confused... I really don't have the patience to read through this and the other thread in it's entirety, but it's looking like that is what I need to do...
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Western civilization, which influences the lives of billions of people in this world, interferes in the natural process much more than do other societies. For example, we have moved from working with our children to leaving them in the care of strangers or, oftentimes, themselves. Such things are called progress or necessities for the world we live in. We then take basic inventions, like light bulbs, and outlaw them and replace them with something toxic all while calling the replacement "green". (Yes, your "green" not only goes against what you would call nature but is actually killing you, and making others go hungry.)


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Things are in the saddle and riding mankind. You're not exactly the first person to note these things.

However, you mentioned CFLs

[link to www.wnd.com]

I'm curious, what is it about them that makes dogs and cats freak out. I'm pretty sure whatever it is, it's not good for either them or us dumb and blind humans, but I do like explanations for empirical observations.
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What if the "evil" ruling "elite" are "us?"

These "evils" are "external" manifestations of our "internal" world, our perspective? If you consider this, then there is no such thing as "unfair."

We can complain, point fingers, and blame others for the "problems" (challenges) we have in our individual lives (perspective) and the world (also perspective)... or we can accept it is as it is.

Once we accept it and set it to a symbol, we can consider the logic (structure) associated with it, consider the possibility (options we have to change it), interact with said possibilities to work toward a "world," "reality" or "paradigm" (an overarching symbol from perspective) that allows us to exist outside of the constraints of the majority of the population (while taking into consideration all of the relationships between perspectives, also a symbol)

This may sound ridiculous to some from their perspective, but try it on, think about it, pretend it applies to you (I think you'll be surprised).

We can go to "work," do our "mundane jobs," do the "best we can with what we have" if we just simply stop looking for what is "wrong" externally (from perspective) and start noticing "what's right" (from perspective). Then we can change it to fit preference (from perspective), opportunities will arise to leave non-preferred parts of our lives behind, opening up new possibilities for interaction.
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Very well said.

We cannot see beyond our own perceptions. (That's all we can possibly know.)
 Quoting: Chaol


So I should just basically pretend like nothing is going on, and forget that my government is oppressing me, against the law of the land, without impunity? Hell, an American Citizen was just assassinated this week, and the media is cheering it on like blood sucking vampires. I should just be ok with that?
 Quoting: Bertoxxulous


From my perspective, we (I, you, Everyone else) need to first accept that all is as it is, now.

I am not personally "ok" with "them"(a distant extension of our selves) killing our American citizens. You also do not have to be "ok" with it. But it IS the way it IS.

The way I interpret what Chaol is telling us, there are things that are physically relative to our lives(close to us in distance, time, reality), things that are less relative(further from us in distance, time, reality) and nothing exists beyond what we are aware of (no energy is independent of our "individual" perspective). It's a continuum, with the things most relevant to us here closest (in perspective) and the things least relevant furthest.

I know it is "upsetting" to see such horrible things happening in our world, but until it is closer to us "relatively" from our individual perspective, it is beyond our control.

So, you can choose to bring it closer, using a technique like Chaol's "The Genius" model or you can dismiss it as not as relevant to your life.

I don't mean to sound uncaring or apathetic to the horrid things happening in our world, I am just trying to share my perspective.

I also subscribe to the childish notions that "everything happens for the best, from perspective", that "our experience is a reflection of our choices" and that "we experience EXACTLY what we deserve"
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Thanks.

It's good that we each have our own personalities. It makes us more interesting as an individual being, I think.

From my perspective I don't see "failed prophecy". I did apologize for the misdirection, however I don't think it could be said that I was "lying".

As I've often said (and said on the post to which you responded) I am not aiming for credibility.

(Future discussions are only 'tainted', as you say, to those who I would not really be able to have proper discourse with.)

I suppose I am looking at the big picture in a way that is most comfortable to me. (Chess not checkers, I suppose.)

Your paragraph about offering a poem seems to contradict the one above it. Perhaps I am mistaken.

Destruction, by the way, is the same as what you call creation. There is no difference, except that nothing is created or destroyed. Things become less and more relevant (attraction and repulsion) but even this is putting it is readily-available terms.

What process isn't chaotic to an other perspective? It doesn't have to be looked upon favorably by people you know in order to be vitally important to their existence.

Things works regardless of whether or not we know about it.

If I say that anything is possible with an understanding of 'Ecsys prime' then it is only those drinking "weak beer" that do not understand it's possibilities.

Given a choice between teleportation and creating world peace, which do you think is more natural? (and possible)



Hi Chaol,

I am still not sure what the lesson was for the October 1st lesson but i do feel different from my perspective.
I think i am supposed to get off the sidelines as you put it.
as for the statement above about understanding the possibilities with ecsys prime, i don't drink at all and i don't understand it and i have read every post and read both versions of ecsys website many times so maybe i am missing something.

World peace or teleportation

attraction/repulsion the natural order where world peace is really not possible so i think teleportation is more natural and possible and would be so awesome, so if you can send some tips on how it would be appreciated (hehe)

Thank
Vegatech
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You may be right, friend... But for me this doom that Chaol said, was only to confirm if he is the real deal, understand?

[snips]
 Quoting: Gespenst


My words will tell you if I am the "real deal" or not.

However, if I told you exactly what will happen when, you and others would no longer listen to the meaning behind my words.

 Quoting: Chaol


TRUTH HAS NO MASK. If you knew something you would simply say when and where.
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FRAUD.
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Chaol,

What did I do today - specifically what show did I attend?

Did I drive or ride my bike?
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Remember the zeta's "white lie"? LOL same tactics.
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Chaol.

Everything changes from 1 October. That comet that hit the sun was not "nothing".

I have appreciated your posts.

Good luck.
 Quoting: WatchingTheThinker


Yes.

And now we are in the last act of "Contact" where Ellie is before a committee discussing what happened.

Perhaps some of us will never know.

Some crazy guy on the internet made a prediction that "the doom you were obviously expecting" will occur on October 1 on a thread referencing the first Star Trek episode which coincidentally (?) aired the same day he made the post, 24 years earlier, which was about saving humanity from destruction.

The day before October 1 he said, "It teeters on the edge.. and all it needs is a little kick. Perhaps a little ejection." and coincidentally (?) the next day an object thrashed near the sun, sending out massive ejections of energy in the direction of Earth.

But again the day before he said that we will all be disappointed on October 1.

The point is that if some was disappointed that there was no doom on October 1, it's because they:

1) haven't been paying attention, and/or
2) really want doom to occur and are disappointed when it doesn't happen

So hopefully a lot more people on this website can stop wishing for doom and realize what is going on around them now and participate more in its 'creation'.

We can do fantastic things together, but we need your active participation. Don't just sit on the sidelines.

Let's figure it out together. (A cliché that works!)
 Quoting: Chaol


An amazing tie together!

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The point is that if some was disappointed that there was no doom on October 1, it's because they:

1) haven't been paying attention, and/or
2) really want doom to occur and are disappointed when it doesn't happen

So hopefully a lot more people on this website can stop wishing for doom and realize what is going on around them now and participate more in its 'creation'.

We can do fantastic things together, but we need your active participation. Don't just sit on the sidelines.

Let's figure it out together. (A cliché that works!)
 Quoting: WatchingTheThinker


An amazing tie together!

clappa
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol,

When you write;

1) haven't been paying attention, and/or
2) really want doom to occur and are disappointed when it doesn't happen.

Does anyone really want doom to happen? In reality doom does happen and no one in their right mind enjoys it or wishes for it to happen.

When someone as enigmatic as yourself appears and makes a prediction, some of us more idiosyncratic humans might hope that you are right. I want to emphasize that they are not hoping for doom, they are looking for that someone special in whom they can place their trust. This world is many things, good, bad, beautiful, ugly, certain and this world can be uncertain. People are searching for security, not doom.

You made the prediction and you fail to understand the reason people are disappointed in you.
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Hi Chaos,

I am impressed by the level of creative energy you put into your post!!!

However, I would kindly submit that if you were interested in reviewing peoples response to failed prophecy, then this forum is replete with many examples and there was no need for you to debase your "currency" of discourse by lying to those of us that take you seriously.

You see by doing so, all future discussions are tainted and your credibility on all fronts goes out the window.

In regards to proving yourself, I don't think that anyone is asking you to pick up a rock to show them that you can. I think that at the core of it, they are asking you to share a bit of your culture, a bit of your world since after all they are merging.

So I would propose that you post an original poem known only in your world, or perhaps upload a piece of music unknown to us, not as a proof but as a gift to us, from your culture to ours.

Now, I must admit I was a bit taken aback by you bragging about your capabilities to "create any kind of destruction imaginable" I am afraid that kind of talk is frowned on in our world. And to tell you the truth, chaos is not looked upon favorably either (with a capital"C" or not)

Just one more thing. What you are nominally offering here is insights into being able to do all sorts of magical things, traveling in time or "perspective" as you say exploring our universe etc etc. Sounds rather enticing doesn't it.

But what you are offering is a change, "quantitatively" in our experience, where as what many of our established religions offer is a "qualitative" change in perception, which is to say what you are suggesting we would gain would be very "week beer" or "thin gruel" in comparison.

I guess the above verbiage is just a very long winded way of saying:

"Cool story Bro!"
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Thanks.

It's good that we each have our own personalities. It makes us more interesting as an individual being, I think.

From my perspective I don't see "failed prophecy". I did apologize for the misdirection, however I don't think it could be said that I was "lying".

As I've often said (and said on the post to which you responded) I am not aiming for credibility.

(Future discussions are only 'tainted', as you say, to those who I would not really be able to have proper discourse with.)

I suppose I am looking at the big picture in a way that is most comfortable to me. (Chess not checkers, I suppose.)

Your paragraph about offering a poem seems to contradict the one above it. Perhaps I am mistaken.

Destruction, by the way, is the same as what you call creation. There is no difference, except that nothing is created or destroyed. Things become less and more relevant (attraction and repulsion) but even this is putting it is readily-available terms.

What process isn't chaotic to an other perspective? It doesn't have to be looked upon favorably by people you know in order to be vitally important to their existence.

Things works regardless of whether or not we know about it.

If I say that anything is possible with an understanding of 'Ecsys prime' then it is only those drinking "weak beer" that do not understand it's possibilities.

Given a choice between teleportation and creating world peace, which do you think is more natural? (and possible)
 Quoting: Chaol



From the above:

"From my perspective I don't see "failed prophecy". I did apologize for the misdirection, however I don't think it could be said that I was "lying"."

Misdirection? I think you are merely putting lipstick on a pig.


"Destruction, by the way, is the same as what you call creation. There is no difference, except that nothing is created or destroyed. Things become less and more relevant (attraction and repulsion) but even this is putting it is readily-available terms."

I'm sorry, I just can't buy this, perhaps in some painfully abstract way you have a point but in my world any idiot can destroy but it takes intelligence direction and perseverance to create anything of value.

It is however "instructive" that you used the example of destruction.


"What process isn't chaotic to an other perspective? It doesn't have to be looked upon favorably by people you know in order to be vitally important to their existence."

That is an interesting statement



"Given a choice between teleportation and creating world peace, which do you think is more natural? (and possible)"

Excellent question, what is the answer?


"Your paragraph about offering a poem seems to contradict the one above it. Perhaps I am mistaken."

It is only contradictory if you are approaching it from a defensive posture or perspective. Why not take it at face value and offer some little glimpse of your world as was requested.

I would be very excited to read a poem or hear a song from your world. or perhaps you could upload an image of some famous work of art.

Thanks in advance!
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People! When the time comes all this knowledge will be given to us as granted. Our goal as human is to focus on being better person. We need to feel love even when there is total chaos around us, when somebody hurts us, when it is impossible to feel love. The rest will be given when we are ready. Do not fall into this phony intellectual stuff. This is distraction! Be simple! Be human!

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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)
People! When the time comes all this knowledge will be given to us as granted. Our goal as human is to focus on being better person. We need to feel love even when there is total chaos around us, when somebody hurts us, when it is impossible to feel love. The rest will be given when we are ready. Do not fall into this phony intellectual stuff. This is distraction! Be simple! Be human!
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^this^
No matter what happens... just say "Thank You." - D W Fierce
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)
Hello Chaol.

I have been working to "memorize" the EC language. I've made flash cards with the respective "symbol" on once side and the "pronunciation" or sound on the other side.

I am finding that as I purposefully pronounce the "symbol" internally as described by the input/output considering the "meaning" of the "symbol," I am still suffering from an "English" inner dialog explaining the "symbol."

For example, the first "letter" you've provided us with the cAt sound, the input is +S and the output is S. When I think the "A" sound, my mind then resonates from that with inner-dialog "high symbol->neutral symbol" then "a representation of 'something' that is better than the normal version of that 'something' becomes or yields a normal or neutral version of that 'something'"


Do you have any techniques that can assist in "understanding the symbol" or EC "letter" as the concept with the input and output considered without the interference of the English inner-dialog-narative-resonance?
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Some sort of inner dialogue must be there, whether in English or an other language or type of language.

If you've ever learned a second language, the process could be similar. The inner dialogue will change over time as you make the mental map of the new concepts and words.
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)
Chaol,

I realize western civilization is killing itself, and in a way, this is why I wanted doom. Not total doom, just doom to stop the backwards ways of society. To stop the ignorance and bliss. To stop the lies we are told. As you said, how being "green" actually doesn't help any bit. Instead, "Green" is just an idea to garner and steal the "energy" of others.
Naturally, the world would balance out this mess, since this method of thinking will eventually run itself into the ground. However, is it possible to change this method of thinking to oust those who are here as false prophets? Or should I focus on my own paradigm and work to bring what I believe into physical being?
You've explained how to change our reality, but how do others, loved ones, friends, and family fit into the picture?
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Chaol,

Would you ever consider the possibility that you are a human like all of us on earth, but that for some reason your egotism has gone delusional?
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Sure.

That would be fun, wouldn't it?

I am definitely human, like you. (Have I ever said I wasn't?)

I suppose some things are just impossible, aren't they?

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Chaol,

Would you ever consider the possibility that you are a human like all of us on earth, but that for some reason your egotism has gone delusional?
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Or maybe you are ration and normal, but you like your entertainment to covey some viable and interesting ideas along with pure insanity.
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Sounds plausible also.

You are on a roll!
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)
Hi chaol,

I am not afraid to admit, I failed to learn your lesson before you explained your goal. I think the main reason we look for doom on GLP, is the hope that the world we know will drastically change, and through chaos or conflict, change for the better.

I've always admired the quote, "Conflict breeds consciousness".

But anyway, it's great to be here :)

I've been trying to wrap my brain around ecsys for over a year now. I believe I understand the concepts that ecsys proposes, but my problem is failure to incorporate it into my everyday life. I've tried using the genius before but I never created anything physical per se, I only made a couple drawings that I would apply a specific meaning to. I would love to post one on here but I don't have a camera, maybe I will try using my phone later today.

Well, mainly just saying hi chaol :)

Regards

Matt
 Quoting: JustAnotherExperience


Thanks, Matt.

But keep in mind that with the genius you have to create something physical. Otherwise, it cannot be mapped to your physical world (which includes what you call mental, emotional, psychological, spiritual, etc.)
 Quoting: Chaol


I hope my example can help:

I described your "The Genius" to my brothers and a couple good friends yesterday and I used "Getting a Job in your field" (as they are all unemloyed college grads)

I explained (with your website up) the following:

"The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime."

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.

Create a resume', portfolio, buy clothing that someone in your field would wear.


2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.


Send the pieces of paper off to possible employers (creating possibility for interaction)


3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity


Visit, call or frequent places where the people in your field (possible employers) are, show your work, talk to people about what you do. Contact the people/places you've sent resume's to.


5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

Speak and behave as one would in your field, wear the clothing you purchased.


I know, it's simple and it's just an example, but the group I was speaking with was very receptive.
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Hi. It's good you shared your understanding of the Genius. I'm impressed with your efforts.

Your model is a good start. I'd be interested to see your next one.

Some notes:

2 could possibly work. Though "possibility" would be in the space itself, not in the sending.

For 3, allow the representation to interact.
For 5, try specific rules.

Good stuff :)

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