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Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)

 
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Chaol,

Are you responsible for the oct 28th website? New information recently put on it referencing the imminent merging of dream world with this one etc...

Think there are links to the site on glp's home page currently

Thanks,

N
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Chaol is not related with that site.
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I had those trembles, some 20 years ago. At the time I read a lot about OBEs so I thought I knew what they meant, but still I was scared to death when I felt them.

Since then I never had them anymore.

Tensions at home and work make it hard for me to concentrate on this stuff, but I definitely want to.
 Quoting: tuuuuur


Perhaps one part of your brain is scared and the other part is relaxed.

Kind of like in a dream where you're falling off of a building or something.
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Thank you for spelling it out for us. Any additional advice on how to adapt?
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Does anyone notice any dream elements trying to boil to the surface in their field of perspective?

Is there any strange stuff that you perceive that you brush off, thinking "I'm not going crazy, am I?"

When you experience these elements in your waking life (even if a little bit for now), you know that the two worlds are merging.

The question is, are you resisting it or exploring it?
 Quoting: Chaol


I have been taking the train quite a bit lately and I notice that even a few seconds after I doze off I start dreaming. I notice I'm dreaming and wake up. This occurs within only a minute or two. I don't think it's typical to dream that quickly.

hf
 Quoting: Silent Wind


Or maybe it wasn't normal for you to realize you were already dreaming.

But now you do so more easily?
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If the Sun is the gatekeeper of your brand of physicality and there are significant solar events happening right now, what do you think is really going on?

Could your physicality really be changing?

People look in the sky for things to happen, when the new physicality is totally different from what you're used to. You should not be looking at all. You should be thinking.
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Chaol,

Is the sun in the 'universe' going to change? Is the way we think changing? Is the energy from the sun changing the way we think?

Thoht
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


All are values of your perspective, nothing outside.

It's not that something is changing, really. You're not 'evolving' per se.

You could say that when you're ready to experience something it is there all ready. So it seems like there is some sort of movement or progression where there is none.

The 'Sun' is doing everything. You experience that which is most logical for you to experience, all things considered. So in a way you choose what the sun is doing.

(Some call it 'co-creation' but it's just a logical progression, masqued as exploring your choice.)
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snip...

Hi.

Yes, I'm sure the tremors can be a bit off-putting sometimes. Especially when we don't know where they come from.

Where do you think these tremors will lead? Anywhere?

May I ask, what does golf represent to you? How do you feel when you play golf? And at what point in your life did you become interested in it?

The oct282011.com website isn't mine.
 Quoting: Chaol


I have no real understanding of the tremors. I do know that the first time I really noticed them was this month. Sometimes they are like shaking and other times they are like chills. They are there almost all of the time now,.

I assume that the tremors are leading to the merger, so I can experience what I called 'dream physics' earlier and be able to map perception/perspective. Along with the tremors, I have had some thoughts this month that are the most alarming type that I can imagine. I am working to make these thoughts irrelevant. These thoughts can never become reality, and I would see my own existence ended before these thoughts would ever become manifest.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


When water flows through a channel, sometimes the swirls of currents bring aspects of the place we are leaving and may 'crowd' them around the new entrance.

It's good you're making them irrelevant to the new 'environment' but be careful not to resist them.

It may be enough to just say, "ok, you're right" or something similar. Or imagine yourself accepting them (even though it's unthinkable).

What this does is (bear with me) integrate these undesirable elements into your new reality but in a different form. "One octave up" you could say, which may completely change how you see them.

So, for example, thoughts of harming children may turn into something that appears to be totally unrelated but it actually the same geometry of relationships. So, it could be taking up botany or starting to sew sweaters.

The narrative you ascribe to the geometry of relationships is irrelevant to what it actually is.

Golf represents challenge, accomplishment, doubt, fun, and most of all self mastery. I feel every sensation under the rainbow when I golf...joy, elation, accomplishment, anger, frustration, helplessness, hope, comfort, anxiousness. I first became interested in golf as a young boy when I would play regularly with my father. I became re-interested in playing golf about 10 years ago and then I became interested in playing well enough to make a living at it over the past 2-3 years and then playing to experience winning $5Million per year for the next 10 years on the PGA Tour as I started working with the Genius for about 6 months or so.

Thoht
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


Thank you for letting us know.

We had a few 'false starts' regarding symbol creation and a few other things, however.

But could you please tell me your steps now?

Symbol
Interaction
Possibility
Logic

And, just as an aside, if you could somehow physically represent your mother saying "I'm so proud of you", do you have something in mind about what you would create?

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Hi.

Yes, I'm sure the tremors can be a bit off-putting sometimes. Especially when we don't know where they come from.

Where do you think these tremors will lead? Anywhere?

May I ask, what does golf represent to you? How do you feel when you play golf? And at what point in your life did you become interested in it?

The oct282011.com website isn't mine.
 Quoting: Chaol


brother from another mother,

What am I stepping to the other side of?

Where do the tremors come from? What do they mean? Why are they necessary? Will everyone experience them? Where do the tremors lead?

Thank you,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


The tremors aren't necessary to experience. But for those that are experiencing them they are part of the logical progression to what 'comes next'.

The other side is... the other side of your life. The dreaming world, as you might say.

No, everyone will not experience them. There are aspects of your perspective that are not interested.

The tremors lead to a new kind of physicality that is more closely related to your dreaming world.

Will you notice that you are different? Probably not at first. But something will definitely appear to be different.
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Thank you for spelling it out for us. Any additional advice on how to adapt?
 Quoting: Chaol


Does anyone notice any dream elements trying to boil to the surface in their field of perspective?

Is there any strange stuff that you perceive that you brush off, thinking "I'm not going crazy, am I?"

When you experience these elements in your waking life (even if a little bit for now), you know that the two worlds are merging.

The question is, are you resisting it or exploring it?
 Quoting: tetre 3076036


It is very simple OP.

Once october 29 comes and goes,you will be branded just another hoaxer,since you were playing with peoples hopes and dreams,making them hope for something that will not happen this fall.
Your crop circle date references to this month will fall flat on everyone and you will be seen as a BS hoaxer as all the rest.

If not,I will personally take my words back,but we both know that I am right,and nothing of magnitude will be experienced on october 28-29.

So you are really sad for dragging it out,saying itll take another 12 years man. Pff,give me a break.12! years,all the way to 2023.Now THAT is a hoax of hoaxes.


What troubles you? Legos?
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I notice not where he сant be proven wrong,however I focus on where he can be, and thta is the origina lpost he made,a prediction of october 28 being the merging of dream world and our world fully.
He knows very well that no actual shift will happen this month.And he still gave that message and date nad even the cropcircle to back it up saying each circle is a day.

This thread was made on the basis of october 28 and crop circle,the rest is a rant unproven really,and he can speak on it in his other threads,like the oen he made about peopels take on reality.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3076036


As I've mentioned on my other thread, "message above messenger".

The way to do the opposite is exactly what many would like to see. Have someone make a prediction that actually comes true.

But then where would my message be? Lost (guaranteed)

I want you to consider me full of shit, instead.

This is far more effective for me than telling you everything I know to prove who I am. (I'm way beyond that. But some of us still watch too much television.)

(And, if you "get it" you'll know better)

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send me link to the "Genius"
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Chaol,

Are you responsible for the oct 28th website? New information recently put on it referencing the imminent merging of dream world with this one etc...

Think there are links to the site on glp's home page currently

Thanks,

N
 Quoting: Yes 2985923


No, but the person that created it reads this website.

I don't know them 'personally'.
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Chaol,

Are you responsible for the oct 28th website? New information recently put on it referencing the imminent merging of dream world with this one etc...

Think there are links to the site on glp's home page currently

Thanks,

N
 Quoting: Yes 2985923


No, but the person that created it reads this website.

I don't know them 'personally'.
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol, by any chance do you have any contact with Open? (I think this sentence is written incorrectly, sorry)

Is interesting that the two threads that make me access this site every day has something in common...
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Chaol,

Are you responsible for the oct 28th website? New information recently put on it referencing the imminent merging of dream world with this one etc...

Think there are links to the site on glp's home page currently

Thanks,

N
 Quoting: Yes 2985923


No, but the person that created it reads this website.

I don't know them 'personally'.
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol, by any chance do you have any contact with Open? (I think this sentence is written incorrectly, sorry)

Is interesting that the two threads that make me access this site every day has something in common...
 Quoting: Gespenst


Hi.

No, no contact.

We all love a puzzle, don't we?

Even the ones that have no meaning other than creating relationships.
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snip...

Hi.

Yes, I'm sure the tremors can be a bit off-putting sometimes. Especially when we don't know where they come from.

Where do you think these tremors will lead? Anywhere?

May I ask, what does golf represent to you? How do you feel when you play golf? And at what point in your life did you become interested in it?

The oct282011.com website isn't mine.
 Quoting: Chaol


I have no real understanding of the tremors. I do know that the first time I really noticed them was this month. Sometimes they are like shaking and other times they are like chills. They are there almost all of the time now,.

I assume that the tremors are leading to the merger, so I can experience what I called 'dream physics' earlier and be able to map perception/perspective. Along with the tremors, I have had some thoughts this month that are the most alarming type that I can imagine. I am working to make these thoughts irrelevant. These thoughts can never become reality, and I would see my own existence ended before these thoughts would ever become manifest.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


When water flows through a channel, sometimes the swirls of currents bring aspects of the place we are leaving and may 'crowd' them around the entrance.

It's good you're making them irrelevant to the new 'environment' but be careful not to resist them.

It may be enough to just say "ok, you're right" or something similar. Or imagine yourself accepting them (even though it's unthinkable).

What this does is (bear with me) integrate these undesirable elements into your new reality but in a different form. "One octave up" you could say, which may completely change how you see it.

So, for example, thoughts of harming children may turn into something that appears to be totally unrelated but it actually the same geometry of relationships. So, it could be taking up botany or start sewing sweaters.

The narrative you ascribe to the geometry of relationships is irrelevant to what it actually is.

Golf represents challenge, accomplishment, doubt, fun, and most of all self mastery. I feel every sensation under the rainbow when I golf...joy, elation, accomplishment, anger, frustration, helplessness, hope, comfort, anxiousness. I first became interested in golf as a young boy when I would play regularly with my father. I became re-interested in playing golf about 10 years ago and then I became interested in playing well enough to make a living at it over the past 2-3 years and then playing to experience winning $5Million per year for the next 10 years on the PGA Tour as I started working with the Genius for about 6 months or so.

Thoht
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


Thank you for letting us know.

We had a few 'false starts' regarding symbol creation and a few other things, however.

But could you please tell me your steps now?

Symbol
Interaction
Possibility
Logic

And, just as an aside, if you could somehow physically represent your mother saying "I'm so proud of you", do you have something in mind about what you would create?
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol,

First off thank you for that spooky suggestion. I am glad to know that geometry can soon be another perspective. Looking forward to the symphony playing a higher octave.

Yes we did have some false starts with this one.

Symbol - consists of three chopsticks in a pyramid, with a golf ball wedged between them, tethered with wiring.

Interaction - is with the golf course, putting green, golf balls, clubs, etc.

Possibility (Space) - are in the two pockets on my golf bag and on the ground beside my golf bag.

Logic - when i am practicing golf, I take the symbol out of the large pocket on my bag and place it beside the bag. When i am playing, i transfer the symbol from the large pocket on the bag, to a smaller pocket located on the other side of my golf bag.

If my mom was to say I am so proud of you, for some reason I think she would knit me something.

Thanks.
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Chaol,

Are you responsible for the oct 28th website? New information recently put on it referencing the imminent merging of dream world with this one etc...

Think there are links to the site on glp's home page currently

Thanks,

N
 Quoting: Yes 2985923


No, but the person that created it reads this website.

I don't know them 'personally'.
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol, by any chance do you have any contact with Open? (I think this sentence is written incorrectly, sorry)

Is interesting that the two threads that make me access this site every day has something in common...
 Quoting: Gespenst


Hi.

No, no contact.

We all love a puzzle, don't we?

Even the ones that have no meaning other than creating relationships.
 Quoting: Chaol


hf

Taking the opportunity, what do you think of these 'manuals':


Manual 1:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 2:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 3:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 4:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 5:
[link to oct282011.com]

?
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snip...

Hi.

Yes, I'm sure the tremors can be a bit off-putting sometimes. Especially when we don't know where they come from.

Where do you think these tremors will lead? Anywhere?

May I ask, what does golf represent to you? How do you feel when you play golf? And at what point in your life did you become interested in it?

The oct282011.com website isn't mine.
 Quoting: Chaol


I have no real understanding of the tremors. I do know that the first time I really noticed them was this month. Sometimes they are like shaking and other times they are like chills. They are there almost all of the time now,.

I assume that the tremors are leading to the merger, so I can experience what I called 'dream physics' earlier and be able to map perception/perspective. Along with the tremors, I have had some thoughts this month that are the most alarming type that I can imagine. I am working to make these thoughts irrelevant. These thoughts can never become reality, and I would see my own existence ended before these thoughts would ever become manifest.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


When water flows through a channel, sometimes the swirls of currents bring aspects of the place we are leaving and may 'crowd' them around the entrance.

It's good you're making them irrelevant to the new 'environment' but be careful not to resist them.

It may be enough to just say "ok, you're right" or something similar. Or imagine yourself accepting them (even though it's unthinkable).

What this does is (bear with me) integrate these undesirable elements into your new reality but in a different form. "One octave up" you could say, which may completely change how you see it.

So, for example, thoughts of harming children may turn into something that appears to be totally unrelated but it actually the same geometry of relationships. So, it could be taking up botany or start sewing sweaters.

The narrative you ascribe to the geometry of relationships is irrelevant to what it actually is.

Golf represents challenge, accomplishment, doubt, fun, and most of all self mastery. I feel every sensation under the rainbow when I golf...joy, elation, accomplishment, anger, frustration, helplessness, hope, comfort, anxiousness. I first became interested in golf as a young boy when I would play regularly with my father. I became re-interested in playing golf about 10 years ago and then I became interested in playing well enough to make a living at it over the past 2-3 years and then playing to experience winning $5Million per year for the next 10 years on the PGA Tour as I started working with the Genius for about 6 months or so.

Thoht
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


Thank you for letting us know.

We had a few 'false starts' regarding symbol creation and a few other things, however.

But could you please tell me your steps now?

Symbol
Interaction
Possibility
Logic

And, just as an aside, if you could somehow physically represent your mother saying "I'm so proud of you", do you have something in mind about what you would create?
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol,

First off thank you for that spooky suggestion. I am glad to know that geometry can soon be another perspective. Looking forward to the symphony playing a higher octave.

Yes we did have some false starts with this one.

Symbol - consists of three chopsticks in a pyramid, with a golf ball wedged between them, tethered with wiring.

Interaction - is with the golf course, putting green, golf balls, clubs, etc.

Possibility (Space) - are in the two pockets on my golf bag and on the ground beside my golf bag.

Logic - when i am practicing golf, I take the symbol out of the large pocket on my bag and place it beside the bag. When i am playing, i transfer the symbol from the large pocket on the bag, to a smaller pocket located on the other side of my golf bag.

If my mom was to say I am so proud of you, for some reason I think she would knit me something.

Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288466


That which makes you successful at golf may not have anything to do with golf.

Do you know how to knit?

(We must be creative with the symbols, as what we're looking for is not an obvious path. Otherwise we would have all ready taken it.)

Let's explore what "golf" means to you without the ball.
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No, but the person that created it reads this website.

I don't know them 'personally'.
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol, by any chance do you have any contact with Open? (I think this sentence is written incorrectly, sorry)

Is interesting that the two threads that make me access this site every day has something in common...
 Quoting: Gespenst


Hi.

No, no contact.

We all love a puzzle, don't we?

Even the ones that have no meaning other than creating relationships.
 Quoting: Chaol


hf

Taking the opportunity, what do you think of these 'manuals':


Manual 1:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 2:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 3:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 4:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 5:
[link to oct282011.com]

?
 Quoting: Gespenst


Not much.

Why?
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I have no real understanding of the tremors. I do know that the first time I really noticed them was this month. Sometimes they are like shaking and other times they are like chills. They are there almost all of the time now,.

I assume that the tremors are leading to the merger, so I can experience what I called 'dream physics' earlier and be able to map perception/perspective. Along with the tremors, I have had some thoughts this month that are the most alarming type that I can imagine. I am working to make these thoughts irrelevant. These thoughts can never become reality, and I would see my own existence ended before these thoughts would ever become manifest.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


When water flows through a channel, sometimes the swirls of currents bring aspects of the place we are leaving and may 'crowd' them around the entrance.

It's good you're making them irrelevant to the new 'environment' but be careful not to resist them.

It may be enough to just say "ok, you're right" or something similar. Or imagine yourself accepting them (even though it's unthinkable).

What this does is (bear with me) integrate these undesirable elements into your new reality but in a different form. "One octave up" you could say, which may completely change how you see it.

So, for example, thoughts of harming children may turn into something that appears to be totally unrelated but it actually the same geometry of relationships. So, it could be taking up botany or start sewing sweaters.

The narrative you ascribe to the geometry of relationships is irrelevant to what it actually is.

Golf represents challenge, accomplishment, doubt, fun, and most of all self mastery. I feel every sensation under the rainbow when I golf...joy, elation, accomplishment, anger, frustration, helplessness, hope, comfort, anxiousness. I first became interested in golf as a young boy when I would play regularly with my father. I became re-interested in playing golf about 10 years ago and then I became interested in playing well enough to make a living at it over the past 2-3 years and then playing to experience winning $5Million per year for the next 10 years on the PGA Tour as I started working with the Genius for about 6 months or so.

Thoht
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228157


Thank you for letting us know.

We had a few 'false starts' regarding symbol creation and a few other things, however.

But could you please tell me your steps now?

Symbol
Interaction
Possibility
Logic

And, just as an aside, if you could somehow physically represent your mother saying "I'm so proud of you", do you have something in mind about what you would create?
 Quoting: Chaol


Chaol,

First off thank you for that spooky suggestion. I am glad to know that geometry can soon be another perspective. Looking forward to the symphony playing a higher octave.

Yes we did have some false starts with this one.

Symbol - consists of three chopsticks in a pyramid, with a golf ball wedged between them, tethered with wiring.

Interaction - is with the golf course, putting green, golf balls, clubs, etc.

Possibility (Space) - are in the two pockets on my golf bag and on the ground beside my golf bag.

Logic - when i am practicing golf, I take the symbol out of the large pocket on my bag and place it beside the bag. When i am playing, i transfer the symbol from the large pocket on the bag, to a smaller pocket located on the other side of my golf bag.

If my mom was to say I am so proud of you, for some reason I think she would knit me something.

Thanks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1288466


That which makes you successful at golf may not have anything to do with golf.

Do you know how to knit?

(We must be creative with the symbols, as what we're looking for is not an obvious path. Otherwise we would have all ready taken it.)

Let's explore what "golf" means to you without the ball.
 Quoting: Chaol


I don't know how to knit. My wife is learning and my mother knits. I think I misread your question though. What would I make to represent my mother saying "I am so proud of you"? The only thing I can think of is a great bug hug, but that is not a symbol.

How do i go about exploring what "golf" means to me without the ball?
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So I will ask you again on October 15, "Where did the energy go?" when a tremendous amount of energy is released from the Sun. (That is when you begin to enter the sphere, as in the crop circle representation.)

It is potential energy with a massive input. What is the output?

It is interacting with you, but how?

If the Sun is the gatekeeper of your brand of physicality and there are significant solar events happening right now, what do you think is really going on?

Could your physicality really be changing?

People look in the sky for things to happen, when the new physicality is totally different from what you're used to. You should not be looking at all. You should be thinking.
 Quoting: Chaol


"potential energy with a massive input" would be high possibility, right? so could the output be high logic?

Logic is the structure of a perspective, its most fundamental part.

Logic is also the ordering of possibility.

Logic is a cognitive illusion.
 Quoting: ecsys


that would mean the input of energy changes the structure of our perspective, hence our "cognitive illusion" changes. perhaps into a higher state? if so, then the structure of the illusion becomes more relative to our perspective and we begin to "see through the illusion". does any of this make sense, chaol?

EDIT:
from a "physical" point of view, i think the energy goes into the (core of the) earth where it changes into matter which then causes the earth to expand. hence, more vulcanic and earthquake activity.
 Quoting: AWinterShadow


"potential energy with a massive input" would be high possibility.

You could make the output whatever you wanted it to be. But if it is in the same expression, the output would be neutral possibility, low possibility, high logic, neutral logic, or low logic.

However for this particular "potential energy with a massive input" it would be high logic because it IS the structure of physicality (of this perspective).

You are accurate in saying, <<...that would mean the input of energy changes the structure of our perspective, hence our "cognitive illusion" changes. perhaps into a higher state? if so, then the structure of the illusion becomes more relative to our perspective and we begin to "see through the illusion".>>

You figured it out!

Although this isn't really seeing through the illusion. You'd just be trading one illusion for an other. (Illusion is all there is.)

But it is a very nice illusion :)

From a physical perspective, you've already answered the question in the preceding paragraph. The energy goes to your perspective (e.g., a new value is introduced. And the 'event' is your way of making it logical to what you'd call your subconscious.)
 Quoting: Chaol


Is that like saying to myself, since that massive multiple CME that occured the other day, I can now fly?
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Chaol, I understand all is only relevant in perspective. What exactly are you expecting from your perspective on the 15th?
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hf

Taking the opportunity, what do you think of these 'manuals':


Manual 1:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 2:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 3:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 4:
[link to oct282011.com]

Manual 5:
[link to oct282011.com]

?
 Quoting: Gespenst


Not much.

Why?
 Quoting: Chaol


Just curiosity... I'm having trouble interpreting some of them...
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Adding to the question above, being that you already are doing all of the things your trying to get us to, is there room for your perspective to be altered along with ours on these massive input events? What does one who can create, be, do every and anything they wish do after years of doing so?
And adding to the golf dilemma, in the Genius section of the ecsys site you often encourage us to use things simialar to what we want to bring it more into our perspective. What I'm starting to realize through your comments is we need not focus much at all on what we want but more so on what is keeping what we want away. Finding out what that is besides it being a stroke of luck may prove tremendously tedious if not impossible to one without extreme discipline and patience. Not saying I'm not willing to put in the work, but it makes me think, this is a give and take type of game. What if you come to find that what is holding your intent back is something more meaningful to you than the intent itself? Is the lesson ultimately to shift through all our desires and intents to realize that there is only 1 real intention? What is it thats holding your perspective back from getting the point across to us here and now? Or do you even want us to really get it?
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[snips]

Unu: What is it about people using Ec or "genius" that makes you happy? (re: "glad to help" "you're welcome" and smiley faces)
 Quoting: Breadsticks


There's no way to answer that, as the question is irrelevant. Meaning, those things do not generally represent "happiness".

Yes, I am glad to help. And, if someone says thank you it is not a stretch for me to say "you're welcome".

:)
 Quoting: Chaol


I can be more direct:
Does sharing the Ec and Genius systems make you happy? If Yes, why? If No, what are your motivations?
I think its fair to want a better understanding of the motivations behind a message. Especially a message delivered anonymously where one can't use as many instincts as they can when speaking with someone face to face. Of course an explanation in text can never replace a face-to-face interaction but I think some attempt to explain motivations would make the message more approachable (for me anyways).


Two: It seems to me that Ec is a relatively young technology. We have a history of subscribing to new technologies that make life more convenient but also end up creating destructive imbalances in life. Are you concerned that Ec may fit into this paradigm? (If not, I'd love a thorough explanation).

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What do you consider "a relatively young technology"? 10 years? 50? 100?

I ask because your queries presuppose that Ec is something that has not be made extensive use of.

I'm not sure about what you mean by "destructive imbalances". The term would not apply.

 Quoting: Chaol


I'd say the age of a technology could be measured better in generations more than in a specific length of time. In this case I'll say 7 generations which would be roughly 175 years (for our race as I know it).

I'll try better to explain what I meant by "destructive imbalances".
There's an element of instinct and mechanics inherent in any one perspective. Modern technologies (perhaps Capitalism, Television, or Electricity) tend to require lots of mechanical/rational energy and leave people feeling dissatisfied with their lives as many of their instincts are neglected. The imbalances manifest within the individual. The same concept of destructive imbalance can apply to nutrition or the muscular system.
With something like Ecsys, which you could call a psychic technology, the effect it has on an individual's balance would be hard to predict (for me) because its relates more directly with the unconscious.
So what I'm looking for, I think, is some observations on how X/genius effects the psyche's balance through the course of generations (because some effects of any technology may not manifest fully in the immediate.)

I can try to get deeper into this issue but I'll leave at this for now and await your response.

(Maybe some of these questions have already been asked.)

Sun: In a community that uses Ecsys, what role does myth and ritual play?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1679653


It is difficult to say what differences in my world are directly because of Ecsys or because of some other happenstance.

We have myths and rituals, but perhaps some of us consider the myths more real than people here normally would.

I would extend the definition of ritual to include just about anything that is done, so I'm not sure how you're using the term.
 Quoting: Chaol


By "ritual" I mean activities that are intended to maintain connection with divine/transcendent energies/aspects-of-perspective. An example would be the reflection upon archetypes (universal symbols that reside in the unconscious).

Could I ask what myths you consider to be real? I ask because I would feel more comfortable exploring an alternative technology when I can sense my own reactions to the myths of people who use it.

Fourtet: In a community that uses Ecsys, what role do universal archetypes play?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1679653


Can you provide a specific example?

 Quoting: Chaol


Example: The Shadow (the opposite of the ego)

Examples of archetypal motifs:
The Sun
Jesus
A circle


Cinco: What role does an artist play in an Ecsys community? (is the artist's role diminished by the fact that the masses have a stronger link to their subconscious?)

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What kind of artist do you mean? Someone that calls themselves "an artist"?

 Quoting: Chaol


Yes.
Examples: Musicians. From your perspective, what role does does music (any style) play?

66: Do you believe that Ecsys brings people closer to the pleroma? ( [link to en.wikipedia.org]

(as a side, perhaps "person" and "community" in my questions can be replaced with "perspective")
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1679653


Ecsys is not religiously-oriented, in the traditional sense?

 Quoting: Chaol


1) In what sense is Ecsys religiously-oriented?

2) If I am my perspective, and if all things have an opposite, then there must also be non-perspective. A not-I. What unites the I and the not-I?

777: Can principles of Ecsys be applied to musical composition?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1679653


Entirely.

Though it would sound quite different to what you're used to. Perhaps not very appealing.

And it's not something you do consciously. It just happens. But obviously, the principles are there.

Instruments are pretty much the same, however.


 Quoting: Chaol


Would you be able to share with me some of this not-very-appealing music?

If not, how would you recommend I use the Genius system in order to convince you to share this music with me?

8: Can the (novice) use of Ecsys lead to death of the user or someone else (unintentional or otherwise)?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1679653


No more death than you would see in your dreams.

Destruction, death, etc., has quite a different meaning in my world.

Yes, people "die". However, they have not gone anywhere.

Ecsys can appear to be destructive, of course. But it is perspective which destroys, not Ecsys.

Same as anything else.

 Quoting: Chaol


Of course, but since we can't immediately know how this foreign technology functions, how can we be sure that we won't accidentally shoot ourselves in the foot with it?

Nine: How can Ecsys make my "separateness" more bearable?
Or, how can thinking/using Ecsys be used for spiritual growth?

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1679653


It doesn't do anything directly. That would be up to you.

What do you mean by spiritual growth?

 Quoting: Chaol


I'll break this question down later as I don't even fully understand it.

From ecsys.org: "The Future Is entirely up to you. Your past/present/future is whatever you imagine it to be."

Ultima: Does the above claim suppose that there are not daimons/powers/others who have more influence over my past/present/future than I do?

Enjoy!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1679653


It's said as a matter of convenience where not future actually exists. More accurately, a "now" that cannot be wholly perceived. (And, thus, is perceived as whatever we can perceive at the time.)

There is nothing outside of your perspective to have any influence.

If there are "powers" then those are values in your current perspective.

My apologies for the obscurity of some answers. I feel that sometimes the question could have some terms more defined in order to provide an accurate response.
 Quoting: Chaol


How can I ever be certain that there are not powers which will forever lie/originate outside of whatever my current perspective might be?


----


Whoo! This is the most mental exercise I've done in a while. Talking about this is furthering my conception of certain questions even if I never find the "answers".

-BS

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Well I had my first lucid dream ever 4-5 days ago. I'm not sure why I suddenly woke up in my dream and realized I was dreaming and actually took control of my dream. Nothing similar has ever happen in my whole life and I'm 33.
I was able to fly when I wanted to and things I asked for would appear in front of me. I woke up with a wonderful feeling and couldn"t wait to go back to sleep the next day.

I am having way more vivid dreams that's for sure. Could mean anything.
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The September 29 - October 28 cycle is nearly half complete.

A few months ago I mentioned that on September 29, "The Earth is shaken, not stirred. Like a bond."

After the fact most of us didn't get it, unfortunately. (How could we, when Chaol is being so mysterious? "WTF is a bond?" There was no earthquake that day!")

A "failed" prediction. Tsk, tsk. It wasn't a prediction. It is an observation. Some of us yet don't (want to) get it even after having spelled it out for you.

Do you wonder why the last significant earthquake was on September 18th? (A magnitude ~6.7)

I mentioned some weeks ago that it is much easier to 'whisper to volcanoes' than influence earthquakes.

What do you think flowing magma could symbolize and be a representation of on this Earth? Where is your magma?

Again from all of the significant events that occured on my "failed prediction dates" I ask, "Where do you think all that energy is going?"

(And, could I possibly know what I am talking about? Why would you want to experience what you expect when the unaccepted is more fun and future-worthy?)

No, this is not 'doom' as on your television. I told you there'd be no "doom" in your definition (but only the doom you expect on GLP, which is nothing happening).

Is October 15 significant? Yes.

Will anyone die on October 15? Probably not any more than usual. It's not the kind of event some of you are looking for. It's far more significant.

Tremendous energies will then be received (i.e., come more into your perspective) then.

Am I full of it? Definitely.

Is the Earth full of it, too? For sure!

(Surely, we'll have the same kind of conversation in a few days as from the start of this thread, where some of the not-get-its will say that I am hoaxing and have failed. I actually don't mind. It doesn't change a thing and it just makes certain realities that much more difficult to accept, which speeds the process along.)

Why do I mentioned these things? I want you to see that you are the Earth in a literal sense. No, I don't mean humanity as a whole. I mean you. (Yes, YOU!)

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We all love a puzzle, don't we?

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The September 29 - October 28 cycle is nearly half complete.

...I want you to see that you are the Earth in a literal sense. No, I don't mean humanity as a whole. I mean you. (Yes, YOU!)
 Quoting: Chaol


Wow! That's what I have been picking up from your threads, I think.

Last night I came out of a dream state with a wierd "realisation" (or something :)) that I am of no dimensions, that time and space are a sort of "representation" of myself, for myself, if that makes sense.

I've often wondered how it came to pass that the earth is so perfectly positioned and setup to be alive (distance from the Sun, atmosphere, magnetosphere etd) - and I just have a brief intuition (before reading you last post) that now I know (very difficult to express however).

Thanks again for your info, Chaol.

Edit: or should that be, "Thank me"? lol
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Again from all of the significant events that occured on my "failed prediction dates" I ask, "Where do you think all that energy is going?"
 Quoting: Chaol


This is something I've been thinking about for quite a while now. The question occured to me not too long after I started paying attention to people talking about Mayan prophecies or Kurzweil's "Singularity". The details of these ideas are interesting but not as much the amount of potential energy thats being built up and what will happen with that energy when these things DON'T happen. What will fill that vacuum?

I'm not sure but I hope I can surf it like a wave. Thats why I meditate and reflect on my dreams.

Why do I mentioned these things? I want you to see that you are the Earth in a literal sense. No, I don't mean humanity as a whole. I mean you. (Yes, YOU!)
 Quoting: Chaol


Why do you want us to see this, Chaol?

However, I make use of a much more advanced kind of neuronics. The explanation of "The Genius" on ecsys.org is quite basic.

There is no limit to what you can do when it is properly used.
 Quoting: Chaol


1) If I could do anything, could I create an object that I cannot lift?

2) If I could do anything, would my perspective be at all exciting? Where would I direct my aim?

Or is your propsed goal to work towards some kind of omnipresent primal awareness?

"Dangers lurk in all systems. Systems incorporate the unexamined beliefs of their creators. Adopt a system, accept its beliefs, and you help strengthen the resistance to change."
-Frank Herbert
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Why do I mentioned these things? I want you to see that you are the Earth in a literal sense. No, I don't mean humanity as a whole. I mean you. (Yes, YOU!)
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if each of us is the earth in a literal sense, how come that we, who all have our own perspectives, experience the same things, such as an earthquake here, a vulcanic eruption there? shouldn't we experience different things, according to our own perspective? or is that what happens after oct 28th? i take it you can perceive our "future" if you want to and up until oct 28th it's our common future, right? will it be the same after oct 28th, a common future for all of us or do you perceive each of us experiencing different things afterwards? each according to our perspectives, i mean.

what i'm trying to do is make sense of all these various prophecies, as well as predictions of people who have been progressed hypnotically into their "future" etc. they're sometimes vastly different and yet they all exist (as possibilities) or these people wouldn't have been able to perceive them. what's interesting is that in pretty much all of them there are much less people on earth, which would imply that something happened which removed a large part of the population. that can probably be anything, not necessarily "doom", depending on the person's perspective. i guess what i want to know is, will many of us decide to "leave" earth and experience other stuff or will we just "create" experiences where less people are around (where lots of people have become irrelevant to our perspective, so to speak)?
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I mentioned some weeks ago that it is much easier to 'whisper to volcanoes' than influence earthquakes.

What do you think flowing magma could symbolize and be a representation of on this Earth? Where is your magma?

Again from all of the significant events that occured on my "failed prediction dates" I ask, "Where do you think all that energy is going?"
 Quoting: Chaol


i guess the flowing magma could either symbolize blood or chi. then our "magma" would be either in the blood vessels or the energy meridians.

the energy goes into creation. we use it to create. the energy gives us the possibility to change the structure of our reality, to change our reality.
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The September 29 - October 28 cycle is nearly half complete.

A few months ago I mentioned that on September 29, "The Earth is shaken, not stirred. Like a bond."

After the fact most of us didn't get it, unfortunately. (How could we, when Chaol is being so mysterious? "WTF is a bond?" There was no earthquake that day!")

A "failed" prediction. Tsk, tsk. It wasn't a prediction. It is an observation. Some of us yet don't (want to) get it even after having spelled it out for you.

Do you wonder why the last significant earthquake was on September 18th? (A magnitude ~6.7)

I mentioned some weeks ago that it is much easier to 'whisper to volcanoes' than influence earthquakes.

What do you think flowing magma could symbolize and be a representation of on this Earth? Where is your magma?

Again from all of the significant events that occured on my "failed prediction dates" I ask, "Where do you think all that energy is going?"

(And, could I possibly know what I am talking about? Why would you want to experience what you expect when the unaccepted is more fun and future-worthy?)

No, this is not 'doom' as on your television. I told you there'd be no "doom" in your definition (but only the doom you expect on GLP, which is nothing happening).

Is October 15 significant? Yes.

Will anyone die on October 15? Probably not any more than usual. It's not the kind of event some of you are looking for. It's far more significant.

Tremendous energies will then be received (i.e., come more into your perspective) then.

Am I full of it? Definitely.

Is the Earth full of it, too? For sure!

(Surely, we'll have the same kind of conversation in a few days as from the start of this thread, where some of the not-get-its will say that I am hoaxing and have failed. I actually don't mind. It doesn't change a thing and it just makes certain realities that much more difficult to accept, which speeds the process along.)

Why do I mentioned these things? I want you to see that you are the Earth in a literal sense. No, I don't mean humanity as a whole. I mean you. (Yes, YOU!)
 Quoting: Chaol


Thank you Chaol. I think I found a use for the genius. I will use you as my symbol. The minds of those I interact with as the "space" or "possibility". My (modest)honesty when reading what you have to say and when describing what I understand from you to others beyond the confines of this forum as the structure.

Conversations have been pretty interesting. My friends and family question "Wait, how did you come upon this information?" I simply respond with, "Through this dude on a forum I go to that says he is from an alternate reality" they tend to respond with "Well, do you believe him" and I respond with "We are all from an alternate reality"

You "Chaol" will be my symbol for my awareness, from my perspective. I have just noticed, you have been... since I started reading your material and integrating it into my paradigm.

Thanks again. I look forward to what's "next."

As for "October 15" I know that people will troll you for it, but there are those of us who do not judge you and understand that all is justified in perspective.

If what you perceive is coming on that date is too abstract to explain, I understand. If you are feeling up to it, could you give it a go? (for those of us interested in the perspective)

It looks to me like I am using you as a means to prevent my premature destruction, while allowing more and more ways for the obscure (previously felt impossible) to exist.

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