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I think you may like this thread too Chaol:

Thread: Thomas Campbell: Holism-Physics, Existence and Life.
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Watched the video and thought it was pretty good, too. I think this perspective and conscious energy thing is getting clearer to me by the day...
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If you find the patience consume the rest of the vids there too. Good stuff.
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Caught the whole london soe lecture, 18 parts on yt. I really liked the computer analogy / model, it was something I have thought through before. His take on consciousness as the experiencer of data streams was interesting and the whole non physical universe thing is like wow. I am thinking that I might stand by my theory that we are living inside a cup of tea. Lol.
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I like that. Yea, we all seem to see the same "thing" and describe it based on our own preference(perspective). Wonderful stuff.
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Here's an interesting thread: Thread: parallel universe feeling now?

By the way, some of the posters in here are pretty funny in an illogical sort of way.
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Nice thread!
Got none of that in real life (but maybe I ain't paying attention enough :-) )

Though I dreamt Charlie Chaplin had been a composer last night.
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So much things 'to happen' tomorrow...
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So much things 'to happen' tomorrow...
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So they say, along with "the choice is yours" So there's possibility for nothing to happen at all. And then there's the "you just aren't paying attention" suggestion. Most of us here on this and various other threads and who knows where else are waiting, expecting, searching and paying as best attention as we can. So we've already made our "choice". If it takes anymore than that then I'd assume it just isn't meant to happen. Either way life will go on, and it was a nice ride of hopes and dreams. This is the last stand for me, I'm sure many will continue on to the 11/11/11 and 12/21/12 dates, but without materialization of the ideas presented, this is as good as religion. I'm an atheist btw if you catch my drift. I'm sure there's more to life then we know and I'm sure someone out there has answers, but knowledge is power and obviously no one wants to give this power up directly. Being mysterious and half assed with explanations is far more fun a game for them, but I don't blame em. Thats human nature for ya.
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I, for one, was hoping that Chaol would Post something interesting today. I've been following a couple of threads here on glp and both seem to have petered out here lately.

Can't stomach all the bickering on the home page. What a bunch of knuckleheads.

Here's to tomorrow being different than today.... If not, this whole Mayan long count yap fest will be just another load of bullshit.
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So much things 'to happen' tomorrow...
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So they say, along with "the choice is yours" So there's possibility for nothing to happen at all. And then there's the "you just aren't paying attention" suggestion. Most of us here on this and various other threads and who knows where else are waiting, expecting, searching and paying as best attention as we can. So we've already made our "choice". If it takes anymore than that then I'd assume it just isn't meant to happen. Either way life will go on, and it was a nice ride of hopes and dreams. This is the last stand for me, I'm sure many will continue on to the 11/11/11 and 12/21/12 dates, but without materialization of the ideas presented, this is as good as religion. I'm an atheist btw if you catch my drift. I'm sure there's more to life then we know and I'm sure someone out there has answers, but knowledge is power and obviously no one wants to give this power up directly. Being mysterious and half assed with explanations is far more fun a game for them, but I don't blame em. Thats human nature for ya.
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Yeah, I felt the same thing...

I hope that 'something' really happen tomorrow. Not just to me, but to everybody.

This is the last 'date' for me too.
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I, for one, was hoping that Chaol would Post something interesting today. I've been following a couple of threads here on glp and both seem to have petered out here lately.

Can't stomach all the bickering on the home page. What a bunch of knuckleheads.

Here's to tomorrow being different than today.... If not, this whole Mayan long count yap fest will be just another load of bullshit.
 Quoting: Almost Edouard 2713660


Chaol is really too quiet this days...

And I don't think that the Mayan Long Count Calendar can be taken as BS. If you look to the past, you will see that it make sense with the human evolution.

Our calendar system is entirely different, to say that "in the 'X' day, the count will 'end'" it's pretty hard. Maybe the conversion is wrong. Maybe not.
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So much things 'to happen' tomorrow...
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So they say, along with "the choice is yours" So there's possibility for nothing to happen at all. And then there's the "you just aren't paying attention" suggestion. Most of us here on this and various other threads and who knows where else are waiting, expecting, searching and paying as best attention as we can. So we've already made our "choice". If it takes anymore than that then I'd assume it just isn't meant to happen. Either way life will go on, and it was a nice ride of hopes and dreams. This is the last stand for me, I'm sure many will continue on to the 11/11/11 and 12/21/12 dates, but without materialization of the ideas presented, this is as good as religion. I'm an atheist btw if you catch my drift. I'm sure there's more to life then we know and I'm sure someone out there has answers, but knowledge is power and obviously no one wants to give this power up directly. Being mysterious and half assed with explanations is far more fun a game for them, but I don't blame em. Thats human nature for ya.
 Quoting: MaJorMan 1528213


You said it, Majorman. It really is an eye-opener to look into past threads throughout the years on this forum and others. It is truly nothing new under the sun. There have been predictions that were absolutely guaranteed to occur yet still failed. I think most of us are aware of that. However, I do not think most truly understand how often and huge such claims have been made. I thought I truly understood the extent to attention-seeking of the doom and gloom and the ego stroking of those who claim to be in the know. Every single one has been proven to be wrong-time after time.

The truth is there were no postings warning of September 11 the days, weeks, or months leading up to it. There were no major warnings of an earthquake to hit Asia in the days leading up to March 11, 2011. It absolutely baffles me how so many place trust and seek knowledge from so called insiders or ETs who have NEVER predicted anything. For example, why would one be scared of October 2 occurring when no such warning was given to the people of Missouri who were hit with a huge tornado this past summer? The worst part is how people who have been proven wrong are still sought after by poor posters looking for a modicum of understanding in their world. Many of them are such "great-hearted" people just looking to be prepared to protect their families. However, there are so many who maliciously string people along or do so due to suffering from severe mental sickness as in this case.

In regards to the Mayan Calender and the possibility of what will occur on October 28, one simply need to look at the past dates of the ending of each underworld. What can be expected from tomorrow? Well, what happened March 9, 2011? Please do not neglect to get your costume this weekend. You will be having the Halloween party and taking the kids trick or treating on Monday. Just think back to March 9, 2011. Of course, you could go back to the more recent date of October 2 date that was predicted by Chaol.


I fear for so many people who will waste the rest of their lives being consumed by the thought that they must not be "paying attention." Paradoxically, this thought will keep them from paying attention and their entire life would have passed them by.

Of course, such sites stress they are for entertainment purposes only. Knowing that there are desperate people looking for any kind of change, does one have a personal responsibility to not deter another human being from his or her life? I know many would say that if they came out and said they were role-playing it would take the fun out of it for a lot of people. I personally see people who role-play and obviously know they are role-playing have the time of their lives!! Far too many poor people in these forums do not understand that even though one swears up and down to being honest and to possessing deep esoteric knowledge, they are justifying it by telling themselves it is just playing. Some individuals have killed themselves. Such a thing cannot be legislated, but I think there is a moral component on a personal level each one of us must consider.
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I, for one, was hoping that Chaol would Post something interesting today. I've been following a couple of threads here on glp and both seem to have petered out here lately.

Can't stomach all the bickering on the home page. What a bunch of knuckleheads.

Here's to tomorrow being different than today.... If not, this whole Mayan long count yap fest will be just another load of bullshit.
 Quoting: Almost Edouard 2713660


If you want to know what will happen on the October 28 day he presented, simply look to the other dates he presented in the last few months alone, including October 2.
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So much things 'to happen' tomorrow...
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So they say, along with "the choice is yours" So there's possibility for nothing to happen at all. And then there's the "you just aren't paying attention" suggestion. Most of us here on this and various other threads and who knows where else are waiting, expecting, searching and paying as best attention as we can. So we've already made our "choice". If it takes anymore than that then I'd assume it just isn't meant to happen. Either way life will go on, and it was a nice ride of hopes and dreams. This is the last stand for me, I'm sure many will continue on to the 11/11/11 and 12/21/12 dates, but without materialization of the ideas presented, this is as good as religion. I'm an atheist btw if you catch my drift. I'm sure there's more to life then we know and I'm sure someone out there has answers, but knowledge is power and obviously no one wants to give this power up directly. Being mysterious and half assed with explanations is far more fun a game for them, but I don't blame em. Thats human nature for ya.
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You said it, Majorman. It really is an eye-opener to look into past threads throughout the years on this forum and others. It is truly nothing new under the sun. There have been predictions that were absolutely guaranteed to occur yet still failed. I think most of us are aware of that. However, I do not think most truly understand how often and huge such claims have been made. I thought I truly understood the extent to attention-seeking of the doom and gloom and the ego stroking of those who claim to be in the know. Every single one has been proven to be wrong-time after time.

The truth is there were no postings warning of September 11 the days, weeks, or months leading up to it. There were no major warnings of an earthquake to hit Asia in the days leading up to March 11, 2011. It absolutely baffles me how so many place trust and seek knowledge from so called insiders or ETs who have NEVER predicted anything. For example, why would one be scared of October 2 occurring when no such warning was given to the people of Missouri who were hit with a huge tornado this past summer? The worst part is how people who have been proven wrong are still sought after by poor posters looking for a modicum of understanding in their world. Many of them are such "great-hearted" people just looking to be prepared to protect their families. However, there are so many who maliciously string people along or do so due to suffering from severe mental sickness as in this case.

In regards to the Mayan Calender and the possibility of what will occur on October 28, one simply need to look at the past dates of the ending of each underworld. What can be expected from tomorrow? Well, what happened March 9, 2011? Please do not neglect to get your costume this weekend. You will be having the Halloween party and taking the kids trick or treating on Monday. Just think back to March 9, 2011. Of course, you could go back to the more recent date of October 2 date that was predicted by Chaol.


I fear for so many people who will waste the rest of their lives being consumed by the thought that they must not be "paying attention." Paradoxically, this thought will keep them from paying attention and their entire life would have passed them by.

Of course, such sites stress they are for entertainment purposes only. Knowing that there are desperate people looking for any kind of change, does one have a personal responsibility to not deter another human being from his or her life? I know many would say that if they came out and said they were role-playing it would take the fun out of it for a lot of people. I personally see people who role-play and obviously know they are role-playing have the time of their lives!! Far too many poor people in these forums do not understand that even though one swears up and down to being honest and to possessing deep esoteric knowledge, they are justifying it by telling themselves it is just playing. Some individuals have killed themselves. Such a thing cannot be legislated, but I think there is a moral component on a personal level each one of us must consider.
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All the nine Underworlds are said to end in the same date.

March 9 wasn't the end of the 8th Underworld.
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So much things 'to happen' tomorrow...
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So they say, along with "the choice is yours" So there's possibility for nothing to happen at all. And then there's the "you just aren't paying attention" suggestion. Most of us here on this and various other threads and who knows where else are waiting, expecting, searching and paying as best attention as we can. So we've already made our "choice". If it takes anymore than that then I'd assume it just isn't meant to happen. Either way life will go on, and it was a nice ride of hopes and dreams. This is the last stand for me, I'm sure many will continue on to the 11/11/11 and 12/21/12 dates, but without materialization of the ideas presented, this is as good as religion. I'm an atheist btw if you catch my drift. I'm sure there's more to life then we know and I'm sure someone out there has answers, but knowledge is power and obviously no one wants to give this power up directly. Being mysterious and half assed with explanations is far more fun a game for them, but I don't blame em. Thats human nature for ya.
 Quoting: MaJorMan 1528213


You said it, Majorman. It really is an eye-opener to look into past threads throughout the years on this forum and others. It is truly nothing new under the sun. There have been predictions that were absolutely guaranteed to occur yet still failed. I think most of us are aware of that. However, I do not think most truly understand how often and huge such claims have been made. I thought I truly understood the extent to attention-seeking of the doom and gloom and the ego stroking of those who claim to be in the know. Every single one has been proven to be wrong-time after time.

The truth is there were no postings warning of September 11 the days, weeks, or months leading up to it. There were no major warnings of an earthquake to hit Asia in the days leading up to March 11, 2011. It absolutely baffles me how so many place trust and seek knowledge from so called insiders or ETs who have NEVER predicted anything. For example, why would one be scared of October 2 occurring when no such warning was given to the people of Missouri who were hit with a huge tornado this past summer? The worst part is how people who have been proven wrong are still sought after by poor posters looking for a modicum of understanding in their world. Many of them are such "great-hearted" people just looking to be prepared to protect their families. However, there are so many who maliciously string people along or do so due to suffering from severe mental sickness as in this case.

In regards to the Mayan Calender and the possibility of what will occur on October 28, one simply need to look at the past dates of the ending of each underworld. What can be expected from tomorrow? Well, what happened March 9, 2011? Please do not neglect to get your costume this weekend. You will be having the Halloween party and taking the kids trick or treating on Monday. Just think back to March 9, 2011. Of course, you could go back to the more recent date of October 2 date that was predicted by Chaol.


I fear for so many people who will waste the rest of their lives being consumed by the thought that they must not be "paying attention." Paradoxically, this thought will keep them from paying attention and their entire life would have passed them by.

Of course, such sites stress they are for entertainment purposes only. Knowing that there are desperate people looking for any kind of change, does one have a personal responsibility to not deter another human being from his or her life? I know many would say that if they came out and said they were role-playing it would take the fun out of it for a lot of people. I personally see people who role-play and obviously know they are role-playing have the time of their lives!! Far too many poor people in these forums do not understand that even though one swears up and down to being honest and to possessing deep esoteric knowledge, they are justifying it by telling themselves it is just playing. Some individuals have killed themselves. Such a thing cannot be legislated, but I think there is a moral component on a personal level each one of us must consider.
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All the nine Underworlds are said to end in the same date.

March 9 wasn't the end of the 8th Underworld.
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I do not mean this disrespectfully, but you misinterpreted my meaning. March 9 was one of the significant dates of the Mayan calender as it was the start of the shift into the 9th wave. One can easily say all of the "changes" are internal. I am not even arguing against that idea or concept. However, one can easily see that people responding to these dates are looking for a definitive, observable change. This could be the form of a catastrophe or perhaps an overthrow of a world government.

My point is that it is the unknown that is driving people to this date. They wan to know what to expect. As March 9 came around, many taught that one would experience changes as it is the start of the 9th wave. When that date came and went, many wondered why nothing happened. They were told the changes are happening internally. Without even getting into the substance of this or the truth or lack thereof, after all, how can anyone prove a subjective phenomenon wrong that is or is not occurring to someone else, the truth is that the overwhelming majority studying this topic are concerned with the physical, observable, phenomenological aspects of this issue. The other dates are all considered extremely significant that start and end each wave. Many outside the "New Age" do not report any of these changes. Moreover, I still have not come across one, not even one, who reported those past dates to have been anything significant. Granted, they probably were not "paying attention."

Although there is significance as this being the end of all waves, one can easily look to the past to see if previous specific dates resulted in any changes. My point was that the total shift that the average person experienced on March 9 will undoubtedly be very similar to the "shift" he or she will experience tomorrow, October 28, 2011. In other words, it will not be a date etched in their minds and revisited like September 11, 2001, for example. Despite your personal beliefs, surely you see this is the kind of thing most think is being referred to when it comes to this, right? A lot of people will feel "disappointed" come October 29. Whether or not this is good, bad, spiritually aware or spiritually unaware is not the point. I have a hard time imagining that most of you guys do not recognize this brute fact. It is like one scolding the person who packed his family up into the mountains and quit his job only to find nothing happened. When returning home, the person comes to his friend, Charcoal, the one who told him of the imminent changes, who tells him that the changes did happen-they just happened internally.

Your mentioning of the end of all waves bespeaks that you anticipate something occurring tomorrow. Can you please share what you think will happen? If it simply that you think you will feel an inner shift inside, that is fine, and that is not something I have any right to dismiss or deem insignificant. I just think if that is indeed what you are referring to then that is what should be disclosed so that people do not get the wrong idea. Once again, for better or worse, most people are thinking in terms of the observable-the phenomenological. I am not arguing whether or not this is spiritually "mature" or not. Do you see any significant, observable changes occurring tomorrow in which future generations would look back to the date of October 28 2011 in a way similar to September 11, 2001?
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Chaol, you mentioned you came here for your girlfriend. I notice you do not mention your parents very much. You also did not acknowledge them as being your reason for being "here." You phrased your origins here as starting in the "womb." Naturally, that is where this existence starts for all of us. Your particular phrasing bespeaks a disconnect with your parents. Please talk to me, Chaol. We sometimes feel abandoned by our parents. Many erroneously believe this only happens physically. The truth is, however, that psychological abandonment can be even more severely traumatic and debilitating. Such issues makes an individual feel separated from his or her biological parents and the world around him or her. Indeed, it seems like they are from a different universe.

How old were your parents when they had you, Chaol? Were your grandparents around after you were born? What was your relationship with them like? Do you mind if I ask where you were raised?

A lot of people have come to care for you on this forum, Choal. No one is going to abandon you here. Please feel free to vent or express yourself. It can be very cathartic to simply talk to another person. This life can be very difficult. In fact, it can be a very lonely trip. It seems futile when one cannot relate to other people. It seems like they are a totally different species.

I can share my private e-mail address with you if you like. Please remember as you previously alluded. You are not the only one from an "alternate universe." You are not alone, Chaol. There are so many people with whom you can relate. As I stated earlier, simply talking to others can be extremely cathartic and beneficial. There are others who are "paying attention" and can see things happening. You are not alone, Chaol.
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I do not mean this disrespectfully, but you misinterpreted my meaning. March 9 was one of the significant dates of the Mayan calender as it was the start of the shift into the 9th wave. One can easily say all of the "changes" are internal. I am not even arguing against that idea or concept. However, one can easily see that people responding to these dates are looking for a definitive, observable change. This could be the form of a catastrophe or perhaps an overthrow of a world government.

My point is that it is the unknown that is driving people to this date. They wan to know what to expect. As March 9 came around, many taught that one would experience changes as it is the start of the 9th wave. When that date came and went, many wondered why nothing happened. They were told the changes are happening internally. Without even getting into the substance of this or the truth or lack thereof, after all, how can anyone prove a subjective phenomenon wrong that is or is not occurring to someone else, the truth is that the overwhelming majority studying this topic are concerned with the physical, observable, phenomenological aspects of this issue. The other dates are all considered extremely significant that start and end each wave. Many outside the "New Age" do not report any of these changes. Moreover, I still have not come across one, not even one, who reported those past dates to have been anything significant. Granted, they probably were not "paying attention."

Although there is significance as this being the end of all waves, one can easily look to the past to see if previous specific dates resulted in any changes. My point was that the total shift that the average person experienced on March 9 will undoubtedly be very similar to the "shift" he or she will experience tomorrow, October 28, 2011. In other words, it will not be a date etched in their minds and revisited like September 11, 2001, for example. Despite your personal beliefs, surely you see this is the kind of thing most think is being referred to when it comes to this, right? A lot of people will feel "disappointed" come October 29. Whether or not this is good, bad, spiritually aware or spiritually unaware is not the point. I have a hard time imagining that most of you guys do not recognize this brute fact. It is like one scolding the person who packed his family up into the mountains and quit his job only to find nothing happened. When returning home, the person comes to his friend, Charcoal, the one who told him of the imminent changes, who tells him that the changes did happen-they just happened internally.

Your mentioning of the end of all waves bespeaks that you anticipate something occurring tomorrow. Can you please share what you think will happen? If it simply that you think you will feel an inner shift inside, that is fine, and that is not something I have any right to dismiss or deem insignificant. I just think if that is indeed what you are referring to then that is what should be disclosed so that people do not get the wrong idea. Once again, for better or worse, most people are thinking in terms of the observable-the phenomenological. I am not arguing whether or not this is spiritually "mature" or not. Do you see any significant, observable changes occurring tomorrow in which future generations would look back to the date of October 28 2011 in a way similar to September 11, 2001?
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I understand you, really. But differently from the previous dates, I think that October 28 will be more significant just because that, as I mentioned, is said that all the Underworlds will 'end'. That's just my thought of it...

I have a great article (unfortunately, is in portuguese) here that show the changes along the Underworlds. It makes quite a sense... They didn't occurred in a particular date, it was subtle.

Can't you say that from March 9 to today the things have changed? For example: that people became more aware of the radiation problem with Japan EQ, more aware about the slavery that the monetary system imposes to us, etc? I have to say, my way of thinking have changed a lot!

About what I expect to happen tomorrow, I have no idea of what to expect! lol I'm not even sure if something will really happen... It's just "I want to believe" :D
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I do not mean this disrespectfully, but you misinterpreted my meaning. March 9 was one of the significant dates of the Mayan calender as it was the start of the shift into the 9th wave. One can easily say all of the "changes" are internal. I am not even arguing against that idea or concept. However, one can easily see that people responding to these dates are looking for a definitive, observable change. This could be the form of a catastrophe or perhaps an overthrow of a world government.

My point is that it is the unknown that is driving people to this date. They wan to know what to expect. As March 9 came around, many taught that one would experience changes as it is the start of the 9th wave. When that date came and went, many wondered why nothing happened. They were told the changes are happening internally. Without even getting into the substance of this or the truth or lack thereof, after all, how can anyone prove a subjective phenomenon wrong that is or is not occurring to someone else, the truth is that the overwhelming majority studying this topic are concerned with the physical, observable, phenomenological aspects of this issue. The other dates are all considered extremely significant that start and end each wave. Many outside the "New Age" do not report any of these changes. Moreover, I still have not come across one, not even one, who reported those past dates to have been anything significant. Granted, they probably were not "paying attention."

Although there is significance as this being the end of all waves, one can easily look to the past to see if previous specific dates resulted in any changes. My point was that the total shift that the average person experienced on March 9 will undoubtedly be very similar to the "shift" he or she will experience tomorrow, October 28, 2011. In other words, it will not be a date etched in their minds and revisited like September 11, 2001, for example. Despite your personal beliefs, surely you see this is the kind of thing most think is being referred to when it comes to this, right? A lot of people will feel "disappointed" come October 29. Whether or not this is good, bad, spiritually aware or spiritually unaware is not the point. I have a hard time imagining that most of you guys do not recognize this brute fact. It is like one scolding the person who packed his family up into the mountains and quit his job only to find nothing happened. When returning home, the person comes to his friend, Charcoal, the one who told him of the imminent changes, who tells him that the changes did happen-they just happened internally.

Your mentioning of the end of all waves bespeaks that you anticipate something occurring tomorrow. Can you please share what you think will happen? If it simply that you think you will feel an inner shift inside, that is fine, and that is not something I have any right to dismiss or deem insignificant. I just think if that is indeed what you are referring to then that is what should be disclosed so that people do not get the wrong idea. Once again, for better or worse, most people are thinking in terms of the observable-the phenomenological. I am not arguing whether or not this is spiritually "mature" or not. Do you see any significant, observable changes occurring tomorrow in which future generations would look back to the date of October 28 2011 in a way similar to September 11, 2001?
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I understand you, really. But differently from the previous dates, I think that October 28 will be more significant just because that, as I mentioned, is said that all the Underworlds will 'end'. That's just my thought of it...

I have a great article (unfortunately, is in portuguese) here that show the changes along the Underworlds. It makes quite a sense... They didn't occurred in a particular date, it was subtle.

Can't you say that from March 9 to today the things have changed? For example: that people became more aware of the radiation problem with Japan EQ, more aware about the slavery that the monetary system imposes to us, etc? I have to say, my way of thinking have changed a lot!

About what I expect to happen tomorrow, I have no idea of what to expect! lol I'm not even sure if something will really happen... It's just "I want to believe" :D
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*L* Me too, brother! Me too!

There is no doubt things have to change. There is so much suffering and so many are enslaved. People need to understand the Federal Reserve, the IMF and World Bank. People need to understand the real reasons for the wars in the Middle-East. People need to understand the truth about the Khazars.

Well, I do hope that no matter what happens tomorrow, it is a very positive day for you, Ges! I hope that it is a great day for all and the beginning of a happy, liberated humanity. God Bless my friend!


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I do not mean this disrespectfully, but you misinterpreted my meaning. March 9 was one of the significant dates of the Mayan calender as it was the start of the shift into the 9th wave. One can easily say all of the "changes" are internal. I am not even arguing against that idea or concept. However, one can easily see that people responding to these dates are looking for a definitive, observable change. This could be the form of a catastrophe or perhaps an overthrow of a world government.

My point is that it is the unknown that is driving people to this date. They wan to know what to expect. As March 9 came around, many taught that one would experience changes as it is the start of the 9th wave. When that date came and went, many wondered why nothing happened. They were told the changes are happening internally. Without even getting into the substance of this or the truth or lack thereof, after all, how can anyone prove a subjective phenomenon wrong that is or is not occurring to someone else, the truth is that the overwhelming majority studying this topic are concerned with the physical, observable, phenomenological aspects of this issue. The other dates are all considered extremely significant that start and end each wave. Many outside the "New Age" do not report any of these changes. Moreover, I still have not come across one, not even one, who reported those past dates to have been anything significant. Granted, they probably were not "paying attention."

Although there is significance as this being the end of all waves, one can easily look to the past to see if previous specific dates resulted in any changes. My point was that the total shift that the average person experienced on March 9 will undoubtedly be very similar to the "shift" he or she will experience tomorrow, October 28, 2011. In other words, it will not be a date etched in their minds and revisited like September 11, 2001, for example. Despite your personal beliefs, surely you see this is the kind of thing most think is being referred to when it comes to this, right? A lot of people will feel "disappointed" come October 29. Whether or not this is good, bad, spiritually aware or spiritually unaware is not the point. I have a hard time imagining that most of you guys do not recognize this brute fact. It is like one scolding the person who packed his family up into the mountains and quit his job only to find nothing happened. When returning home, the person comes to his friend, Charcoal, the one who told him of the imminent changes, who tells him that the changes did happen-they just happened internally.

Your mentioning of the end of all waves bespeaks that you anticipate something occurring tomorrow. Can you please share what you think will happen? If it simply that you think you will feel an inner shift inside, that is fine, and that is not something I have any right to dismiss or deem insignificant. I just think if that is indeed what you are referring to then that is what should be disclosed so that people do not get the wrong idea. Once again, for better or worse, most people are thinking in terms of the observable-the phenomenological. I am not arguing whether or not this is spiritually "mature" or not. Do you see any significant, observable changes occurring tomorrow in which future generations would look back to the date of October 28 2011 in a way similar to September 11, 2001?
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I understand you, really. But differently from the previous dates, I think that October 28 will be more significant just because that, as I mentioned, is said that all the Underworlds will 'end'. That's just my thought of it...

I have a great article (unfortunately, is in portuguese) here that show the changes along the Underworlds. It makes quite a sense... They didn't occurred in a particular date, it was subtle.

Can't you say that from March 9 to today the things have changed? For example: that people became more aware of the radiation problem with Japan EQ, more aware about the slavery that the monetary system imposes to us, etc? I have to say, my way of thinking have changed a lot!

About what I expect to happen tomorrow, I have no idea of what to expect! lol I'm not even sure if something will really happen... It's just "I want to believe" :D
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*L* Me too, brother! Me too!

There is no doubt things have to change. There is so much suffering and so many are enslaved. People need to understand the Federal Reserve, the IMF and World Bank. People need to understand the real reasons for the wars in the Middle-East. People need to understand the truth about the Khazars.

Well, I do hope that no matter what happens tomorrow, it is a very positive day for you, Ges! I hope that it is a great day for all and the beginning of a happy, liberated humanity. God Bless my friend!


Never forget Rachel Corrie!
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Thank you!!!

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Happy October 28 for us!

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Charcoal lololol

The Mayans were around quite some time ago anyway. How can we even be sure their Oct. 28th is the same as our Oct. 28th. For all we know that date could of came and went according to their calendar, or it could be 100 years down the line. As far as Charcoal... I mean Chaol (just poking fun) he stresses time doesn't exist and in the same breath says something will happen on a certain date (in time). ??? Makes me wish he didn't give us dates to look forward to because I actually find all other information he provides to be intriguing and very useful. I sometimes think the suggestion alone is what he is instilling in us. And from that suggestion he is making something relative to us that otherwise wouldn't have been, therefore raising the possibility of it happening. Its already Oct. 28th in some places btw. Let's remember dates, #'s, time, they're all man made concepts, how can anything solid be predicted from them?
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Charcoal lololol

The Mayans were around quite some time ago anyway. How can we even be sure their Oct. 28th is the same as our Oct. 28th. For all we know that date could of came and went according to their calendar, or it could be 100 years down the line. As far as Charcoal... I mean Chaol (just poking fun) he stresses time doesn't exist and in the same breath says something will happen on a certain date (in time). ??? Makes me wish he didn't give us dates to look forward to because I actually find all other information he provides to be intriguing and very useful. I sometimes think the suggestion alone is what he is instilling in us. And from that suggestion he is making something relative to us that otherwise wouldn't have been, therefore raising the possibility of it happening. Its already Oct. 28th in some places btw. Let's remember dates, #'s, time, they're all man made concepts, how can anything solid be predicted from them?
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Just to remember that Chaol never mentioned anything about the Mayans.
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Charcoal lololol

The Mayans were around quite some time ago anyway. How can we even be sure their Oct. 28th is the same as our Oct. 28th. For all we know that date could of came and went according to their calendar, or it could be 100 years down the line. As far as Charcoal... I mean Chaol (just poking fun) he stresses time doesn't exist and in the same breath says something will happen on a certain date (in time). ??? Makes me wish he didn't give us dates to look forward to because I actually find all other information he provides to be intriguing and very useful. I sometimes think the suggestion alone is what he is instilling in us. And from that suggestion he is making something relative to us that otherwise wouldn't have been, therefore raising the possibility of it happening. Its already Oct. 28th in some places btw. Let's remember dates, #'s, time, they're all man made concepts, how can anything solid be predicted from them?
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Just to remember that Chaol never mentioned anything about the Mayans.
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I know but we were on the topic. Its just the whole specific date thing that gets to me. 1 day someone said today is day 1, and I don't think they waited for some type of astronomical alignment to do so. That's why the Oct. 28th date was believable to me because how does it just so happen that 11/11/11 is the date something happens. Just like 12/21/12. I mean that's rather pushing it. And like the previous poster observed, why dont these prophets put their advanced knowledge to some kind of tangible use and uuuh maybe save thousands from dying before 9.0 quakes in Japan, mega floods in Thailand. Instead of sitting comfortably in the high mountains of the places where these things are happening keeping the knowledge that they will to themselves. Is a CME really that much more important?
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Charcoal lololol

The Mayans were around quite some time ago anyway. How can we even be sure their Oct. 28th is the same as our Oct. 28th. For all we know that date could of came and went according to their calendar, or it could be 100 years down the line. As far as Charcoal... I mean Chaol (just poking fun) he stresses time doesn't exist and in the same breath says something will happen on a certain date (in time). ??? Makes me wish he didn't give us dates to look forward to because I actually find all other information he provides to be intriguing and very useful. I sometimes think the suggestion alone is what he is instilling in us. And from that suggestion he is making something relative to us that otherwise wouldn't have been, therefore raising the possibility of it happening. Its already Oct. 28th in some places btw. Let's remember dates, #'s, time, they're all man made concepts, how can anything solid be predicted from them?
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Just to remember that Chaol never mentioned anything about the Mayans.
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I know but we were on the topic. Its just the whole specific date thing that gets to me. 1 day someone said today is day 1, and I don't think they waited for some type of astronomical alignment to do so. That's why the Oct. 28th date was believable to me because how does it just so happen that 11/11/11 is the date something happens. Just like 12/21/12. I mean that's rather pushing it. And like the previous poster observed, why dont these prophets put their advanced knowledge to some kind of tangible use and uuuh maybe save thousands from dying before 9.0 quakes in Japan, mega floods in Thailand. Instead of sitting comfortably in the high mountains of the places where these things are happening keeping the knowledge that they will to themselves. Is a CME really that much more important?
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You have a point about the 'prophets'. But I don't know if you are referring to Chaol or not.
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Charcoal lololol

The Mayans were around quite some time ago anyway. How can we even be sure their Oct. 28th is the same as our Oct. 28th. For all we know that date could of came and went according to their calendar, or it could be 100 years down the line. As far as Charcoal... I mean Chaol (just poking fun) he stresses time doesn't exist and in the same breath says something will happen on a certain date (in time). ??? Makes me wish he didn't give us dates to look forward to because I actually find all other information he provides to be intriguing and very useful. I sometimes think the suggestion alone is what he is instilling in us. And from that suggestion he is making something relative to us that otherwise wouldn't have been, therefore raising the possibility of it happening. Its already Oct. 28th in some places btw. Let's remember dates, #'s, time, they're all man made concepts, how can anything solid be predicted from them?
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Just to remember that Chaol never mentioned anything about the Mayans.
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I know but we were on the topic. Its just the whole specific date thing that gets to me. 1 day someone said today is day 1, and I don't think they waited for some type of astronomical alignment to do so. That's why the Oct. 28th date was believable to me because how does it just so happen that 11/11/11 is the date something happens. Just like 12/21/12. I mean that's rather pushing it. And like the previous poster observed, why dont these prophets put their advanced knowledge to some kind of tangible use and uuuh maybe save thousands from dying before 9.0 quakes in Japan, mega floods in Thailand. Instead of sitting comfortably in the high mountains of the places where these things are happening keeping the knowledge that they will to themselves. Is a CME really that much more important?
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You have a point about the 'prophets'. But I know if you are referring to Chaol or not.
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Prophets in general, but I won't let the point that I love Chaol for what he's taught blind me to the fact that when he makes a prediction about a date, he too is just another prophet. I only hope that he is indeed the real deal with his prophecies because of all the time and effort I've invested in him. But if tomorrow comes and I notice no substantial difference in my internal/external perspectives and he asks, "Do you all see the changes?" I'll admittedly say "HELL NO!" lol. But hopefully I won't have to do that.
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Just to remember that Chaol never mentioned anything about the Mayans.
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I know but we were on the topic. Its just the whole specific date thing that gets to me. 1 day someone said today is day 1, and I don't think they waited for some type of astronomical alignment to do so. That's why the Oct. 28th date was believable to me because how does it just so happen that 11/11/11 is the date something happens. Just like 12/21/12. I mean that's rather pushing it. And like the previous poster observed, why dont these prophets put their advanced knowledge to some kind of tangible use and uuuh maybe save thousands from dying before 9.0 quakes in Japan, mega floods in Thailand. Instead of sitting comfortably in the high mountains of the places where these things are happening keeping the knowledge that they will to themselves. Is a CME really that much more important?
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You have a point about the 'prophets'. But I know if you are referring to Chaol or not.
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Prophets in general, but I won't let the point that I love Chaol for what he's taught blind me to the fact that when he makes a prediction about a date, he too is just another prophet. I only hope that he is indeed the real deal with his prophecies because of all the time and effort I've invested in him. But if tomorrow comes and I notice no substantial difference in my internal/external perspectives and he asks, "Do you all see the changes?" I'll admittedly say "HELL NO!" lol. But hopefully I won't have to do that.
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Speaking of him, where is he now?
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Looks like we r the only ones here Gespenst. I was sure we'd hear from chaol today. He usually posts very early in the morning so maybe I was wrong.
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Looks like we r the only ones here Gespenst. I was sure we'd hear from chaol today. He usually posts very early in the morning so maybe I was wrong.
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Yeah... :/
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Greetings all.

I am here. My apologies for not having much time to respond lately. I've been quite busy working on a project.

It is interesting to 'observe' what some (many) here care to write as though they have learned nothing the past two years of reading what I write.

Do we really think such things would happen in a way we expect, in every direction?

Yes. You have transitioned to the dream world. But do you have any idea what that means?

Some of you see it readily, some of you don't. (Some parts of your perspective are 'there' and some are still stuck 'over there'.) Some of you won't leave from over there and will never 'get there'.

The evidence is all around you. Yet of course some of you ignore it easily.

Understanding requires patience.

Nothing has changed about the period of September 29 - October 28. I don't make predictions about the future. I illustrate observations in a way that benefits my purpose of introducing you to your new reality.

Throwing fits reminds me of Karate Kid.

Some of you speak as though you are already masters, and can dictate exactly how something happens.

It happens.. but why would it happen in the way that you think it would?

If something is obvious to you, why would it be obvious to all of you? (All of who you are, at this moment?)

At this point.. there's not much I can say that I haven't already said.

Some of you feel it. Some of you don't. Think what you will.

(By the way.. I have not stopped playing chess-not-checkers)

If you don't believe that any of this is likely then we shall not meet.

Ask yourself 2 questions:

1) Do you understand how the universe works?

2) Could your current understanding be 100% inaccurate?

What would it mean to not understand how things work? Could it mean that your assumptions, even that which you think has to be true, could be entirely "wrong"?

You ignore what feels right (or is right) with Chaol and focus, instead, on your assumptions about reality that do not match with what I illustrate.

Imagine, for a moment, that you knew and understood the truth about everything that ever was/is/will be.

How distant do you think your current thinking would be from it?

Do you think there is anything within that distance, like a universe of misplaced assumptions? Is it possible that that distance exists now?

Half of you are upset that no "doom" has occurred a couple of hours into October 28. (Even when I did not tell you what would happen.)

Half of the remainder are disappointed that you don't "feel anything different".

When you are sick, do you feel it immediately? Most of the time you are sick, you've already been sick for 3-4 days. What does this tell you about your own awareness of what is going on around you (and even inside of you)?

Of this, I can do nothing but 'observe'.

I already see you for you.

Do you see me?
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From my own perspective, it's safe to say that i've become impatient. I do indeed believe that we all play a part in what "movie script" of reality that we experience... knowingly or unknowingly.

i've spent a good part of the past year or so delineating what i consider to be important to me. fairness, truth, justice etc... i guess it's just frustrating that, if anything, the whole yin/yang duality bit seems to be amplified here lately. a good part of this may just be that i'm now much more aware of all the crap that had been going on before my paying attention to it.

i do feel a bit different this past week energetically. my body seems to be buzzing again much more consistently.... like it did when i was meditating and eating an organic diet last year. my dreams are off the hook again also. i'm remembering them much better than before without necessarily trying to.

i've wrapped my head around (to a degree) the fact that perspective/reality can be of infinite variety.... maybe this is what's so frustrating. the reality i "wake up" to each morning still has the same limitations as yesterday. economy still bad... i still owe taxes (lol)... war in the middle east... yada yada yada.

glad to see you posting, chaol. you're input is very thought provoking.
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I'm almost given up waiting for "something" to happen in our lifes...

The struggle continues, life goes on.

What has to be, will be.

Thank you all.

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appropriate quote of john lennon's.... Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans.


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