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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1374158 United States 10/28/2011 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) Greetings all. Quoting: Chaol I am here. My apologies for not having much time to respond lately. I've been quite busy working on a project. It is interesting to 'observe' what some (many) here care to write as though they have learned nothing the past two years of reading what I write. Do we really think such things would happen in a way we expect, in every direction? Yes. You have transitioned to the dream world. But do you have any idea what that means? Some of you see it readily, some of you don't. (Some parts of your perspective are 'there' and some are still stuck 'over there'.) Some of you won't leave from over there and will never 'get there'. The evidence is all around you. Yet of course some of you ignore it easily. Understanding requires patience. Nothing has changed about the period of September 29 - October 28. I don't make predictions about the future. I illustrate observations in a way that benefits my purpose of introducing you to your new reality. Throwing fits reminds me of Karate Kid. Some of you speak as though you are already masters, and can dictate exactly how something happens. It happens.. but why would it happen in the way that you think it would? If something is obvious to you, why would it be obvious to all of you? (All of who you are, at this moment?) At this point.. there's not much I can say that I haven't already said. Some of you feel it. Some of you don't. Think what you will. (By the way.. I have not stopped playing chess-not-checkers) If you don't believe that any of this is likely then we shall not meet. Ask yourself 2 questions: 1) Do you understand how the universe works? 2) Could your current understanding be 100% inaccurate? What would it mean to not understand how things work? Could it mean that your assumptions, even that which you think has to be true, could be entirely "wrong"? You ignore what feels right (or is right) with Chaol and focus, instead, on your assumptions about reality that do not match with what I illustrate. Imagine, for a moment, that you knew and understood the truth about everything that ever was/is/will be. How distant do you think your current thinking would be from it? Do you think there is anything within that distance, like a universe of misplaced assumptions? Is it possible that that distance exists now? Half of you are upset that no "doom" has occurred a couple of hours into October 28. (Even when I did not tell you what would happen.) Half of the remainder are disappointed that you don't "feel anything different". When you are sick, do you feel it immediately? Most of the time you are sick, you've already been sick for 3-4 days. What does this tell you about your own awareness of what is going on around you (and even inside of you)? Of this, I can do nothing but 'observe'. I already see you for you. Do you see me? Chaol...be safe. I understand what is happening in Bangkok. Is this the beginning of the plates sinking leading to earth changes in one of Earth's realities? Again, stay safe. Your thread is much appreciated !!! |
MutantMessiah User ID: 4144252 United States 10/28/2011 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) Thank you so much Chaol. Your threads and ecsys.org have "helped" me better understand "this" more than any other "outside" resource. My brother and I are working on a java applet that will teach EC for those interested in putting forth the effort. If it is ok with you may we post it to the web when it's complete? On a side note... I feel and have felt the change. The difference between "now" and "before" for me is that "this now" feels "normal or natural" I have no idea when it started to "feel" like this... but I can "remember" when it didn't. Last Edited by MutantMessiah on 10/28/2011 01:53 PM Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1392157 Germany 10/28/2011 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) 1) Do you understand how the universe works? of course not... [quote=chaol] 2) Could your current understanding be 100% inaccurate? Most probably! [quote=chaol] Do you see me? Not consciously... :-) Today I had a long long drive of only 300 km that seemed to be double that distance... Had no network all day and was hoping for some insights on today. I take some hope in chaol's earlier remark that we only have to wait. :-) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309985 United States 10/28/2011 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) of course not... [quote=chaol] 2) Could your current understanding be 100% inaccurate? Most probably! [quote=chaol] Do you see me? Not consciously... :-) Today I had a long long drive of only 300 km that seemed to be double that distance... Had no network all day and was hoping for some insights on today. I take some hope in chaol's earlier remark that we only have to wait. :-) Please do not do that!! That is what so many poor people on these threads do. They wait for the predicted changes to occur. I have seen some lose friends and family over this. They did in a way enter into an alternate universe as their mind is completely consumed by the ideas presented by Chaol. They get into arguments and are not as responsible as they were in the past thinking that things are going to change imminently or none of it is real. Even for the believers, if anything can be taken from this thread and today specifically, it is that these changes have already happened. They are happening. If you are not noticing these changes, well, then that is it. If you read carefully, Chaol, has come out and said the changes have happened and are happening. Yet, there are some who keep coming back thinking such and such is soon to happen. Once again, if you believe Chaol, the changes have happened and you did not/are not experiencing them. There is no reason to come back and ask about December 21, 2012. This is it. These are the changes according to Chaol. You are not in the dream world which has been discussed for the past two years. This is what it is. What you are experiencing now is the world Chaol has addressed. So what do you think of it so far? This is it. There is nothing to fear or expect to change as in the way many hope/expect things to change. Chaol has said it himself. This is it! We have changed into what we thought all those ancient prophets were discussing. What do you think of it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309985 United States 10/28/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) of course not... [quote=chaol] 2) Could your current understanding be 100% inaccurate? Most probably! [quote=chaol] Do you see me? Not consciously... :-) Today I had a long long drive of only 300 km that seemed to be double that distance... Had no network all day and was hoping for some insights on today. I take some hope in chaol's earlier remark that we only have to wait. :-) Please do not do that!! That is what so many poor people on these threads do. They wait for the predicted changes to occur. I have seen some lose friends and family over this. They did in a way enter into an alternate universe as their mind is completely consumed by the ideas presented by Chaol. They get into arguments and are not as responsible as they were in the past thinking that things are going to change imminently or none of it is real. Even for the believers, if anything can be taken from this thread and today specifically, it is that these changes have already happened. They are happening. If you are not noticing these changes, well, then that is it. If you read carefully, Chaol, has come out and said the changes have happened and are happening. Yet, there are some who keep coming back thinking such and such is soon to happen. Once again, if you believe Chaol, the changes have happened and you did not/are not experiencing them. There is no reason to come back and ask about December 21, 2012. This is it. These are the changes according to Chaol. You are not in the dream world which has been discussed for the past two years. This is what it is. What you are experiencing now is the world Chaol has addressed. So what do you think of it so far? This is it. There is nothing to fear or expect to change as in the way many hope/expect things to change. Chaol has said it himself. This is it! We have changed into what we thought all those ancient prophets were discussing. What do you think of it? "You are NOW in the dream world which has been discussed for the past two years. This is what it is." Typo, it should read "now." Once again, please understand that Chaol has said the change did occur. THIS IS IT. WE HAVE CHANGED. There is no December 21, 2012. There is no other future date that has been predicted to look at as a change. According to Chaol, it has happened. This is what it is. I hope you have been keeping up on Jimmy's college fund. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1309985 United States 10/28/2011 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) Chaol said: (By the way.. I have not stopped playing chess-not-checkers) For what it is worth, it is the third of four hungry hippos that connect four. Any of you who do not understand this simply will not. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2881621 Australia 10/28/2011 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) I have "felt" indescribable changes in the past few weeks. It is like the energy around me has changed. Other things have been happening which have been shaping my life in a different way, almost like I am being guided / following a worn / created path. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1288466 Canada 10/28/2011 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) Greetings all. Quoting: Chaol I am here. My apologies for not having much time to respond lately. I've been quite busy working on a project. It is interesting to 'observe' what some (many) here care to write as though they have learned nothing the past two years of reading what I write. Do we really think such things would happen in a way we expect, in every direction? Yes. You have transitioned to the dream world. But do you have any idea what that means? Some of you see it readily, some of you don't. (Some parts of your perspective are 'there' and some are still stuck 'over there'.) Some of you won't leave from over there and will never 'get there'. The evidence is all around you. Yet of course some of you ignore it easily. Understanding requires patience. Nothing has changed about the period of September 29 - October 28. I don't make predictions about the future. I illustrate observations in a way that benefits my purpose of introducing you to your new reality. Throwing fits reminds me of Karate Kid. Some of you speak as though you are already masters, and can dictate exactly how something happens. It happens.. but why would it happen in the way that you think it would? If something is obvious to you, why would it be obvious to all of you? (All of who you are, at this moment?) At this point.. there's not much I can say that I haven't already said. Some of you feel it. Some of you don't. Think what you will. (By the way.. I have not stopped playing chess-not-checkers) If you don't believe that any of this is likely then we shall not meet. Ask yourself 2 questions: 1) Do you understand how the universe works? 2) Could your current understanding be 100% inaccurate? What would it mean to not understand how things work? Could it mean that your assumptions, even that which you think has to be true, could be entirely "wrong"? You ignore what feels right (or is right) with Chaol and focus, instead, on your assumptions about reality that do not match with what I illustrate. Imagine, for a moment, that you knew and understood the truth about everything that ever was/is/will be. How distant do you think your current thinking would be from it? Do you think there is anything within that distance, like a universe of misplaced assumptions? Is it possible that that distance exists now? Half of you are upset that no "doom" has occurred a couple of hours into October 28. (Even when I did not tell you what would happen.) Half of the remainder are disappointed that you don't "feel anything different". When you are sick, do you feel it immediately? Most of the time you are sick, you've already been sick for 3-4 days. What does this tell you about your own awareness of what is going on around you (and even inside of you)? Of this, I can do nothing but 'observe'. I already see you for you. Do you see me? The shakes and electrical pulses through my body are unmistakable. The constant wierd taste in my mouth is a good reminder and the electricity running through my tongue always catches my attention. Then there's the moments where I phase in and out of reality, the sweating and heat and then the floaties that always appear in my vision. This is all new in the past month or so. But what does it mean? What is the dream world? please explain because I don't know. so far its not been very pleasant/comfortable because its a drastic departure from what I was used to. what is your purpose in introducing us to the new reality? I am neither upset that there is no doom, nor upset that I do not feel any changes, so I guess I am outside of either half. I do feel the changes described above, but just have no clue what its all supposed to mean or where it is leading to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3846939 United Kingdom 10/28/2011 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) Best wishes to all of you who've been on this thread - I feel as if I've got to know some of you a little. Much thanks to those of you who've shared your insights. And appreciation to you, Chaol, for what you have put into these threads. As MM says above it's maybe time to move on... And to all a good night! xxx |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1392157 Germany 10/28/2011 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) I have "felt" indescribable changes in the past few weeks. It is like the energy around me has changed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2881621 Other things have been happening which have been shaping my life in a different way, almost like I am being guided / following a worn / created path. I wished for all my life to feel guided, to see some direction in my life. I'm glad you experience that guidance. Maybe, as some last go at it, I could try the genius method to bring it into my life. But then again, as chaol said, some of us get disappointed. I sense that others get suspicious of chaol's motives. Why would we want to see you, Chaol? |
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MutantMessiah User ID: 1524898 United States 10/29/2011 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) I have "felt" indescribable changes in the past few weeks. It is like the energy around me has changed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2881621 Other things have been happening which have been shaping my life in a different way, almost like I am being guided / following a worn / created path. I wished for all my life to feel guided, to see some direction in my life. I'm glad you experience that guidance. Maybe, as some last go at it, I could try the genius method to bring it into my life. But then again, as chaol said, some of us get disappointed. I sense that others get suspicious of chaol's motives. Why would we want to see you, Chaol? A couple years ago, I went through some really profound and unparallelled "suffering" from my perspective. I decided that instead of getting rid of the very valuable people that "failed" me, I would hold onto the aspects of my relationships to them that held meaning to me. I made a conscious effort at noticing why they were justified in what would otherwise be "ruining" my life and saw how it only came to be because of my choice and intention (or lack thereof). It was a matter of "surrender" to "all is as it is now" and realizing that no matter how shitty this moment is, it is the best possible moment you can have NOW. I decided to look at "the beneficial" aspects of all "bad" situations. That was a basic foundation that allowed me to notice the opportunities before me, what was actually possible and what I should focus on to reduce the duration I am in a less preferred moment. I've become bluntly honest with myself and I can see how I am truly responsible for everything in my existence, I feel guided. It's not as if some "God" was showing the way, with his hand out... It is as if I've finally noticed how things "already are" and it makes me wonder why I had been living so confused and "quite dissatisfied" for so long. Sorry about the long run-on thought... but this is what I think people notice when they say they are guided and I really hope this resonates with you. Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3250637 Canada 10/29/2011 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) But Chaol I know somewhere else!! beyond our imagination, we are just conecting by very small tod!/ but you are not/ very tining small spark...is my TRUE WORLD, TRUE CREATOR....there is not dream world...there is not ilusion....nobody playing game with us....THERE IS JUST TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you Chaol forget about... with your coworkers. My True World which I remember and I have IT in my heart... Does not know games, does not know what is lies, what is hate,jealousy, greed, crimes, slaves, bla bla bla what is competitions,....and so on...You know all aspects in this Virtual Reality in this Evil World.... you belong to. Do not tell me your educational BS!!!!!In this EVIL WORLD. And you forget tell our GLPers or you do not know about. |
MutantMessiah User ID: 1524898 United States 10/29/2011 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) But Chaol I know somewhere else!! beyond our imagination, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3250637 we are just conecting by very small tod!/ but you are not/ very tining small spark...is my TRUE WORLD, TRUE CREATOR....there is not dream world...there is not ilusion....nobody playing game with us....THERE IS JUST TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you Chaol forget about... with your coworkers. My True World which I remember and I have IT in my heart... Does not know games, does not know what is lies, what is hate,jealousy, greed, crimes, slaves, bla bla bla what is competitions,....and so on...You know all aspects in this Virtual Reality in this Evil World.... you belong to. Do not tell me your educational BS!!!!!In this EVIL WORLD. And you forget tell our GLPers or you do not know about. We all have to find justification for our belief or we will doubt. Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4260797 Germany 10/29/2011 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) I have "felt" indescribable changes in the past few weeks. It is like the energy around me has changed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2881621 Other things have been happening which have been shaping my life in a different way, almost like I am being guided / following a worn / created path. I wished for all my life to feel guided, to see some direction in my life. I'm glad you experience that guidance. Maybe, as some last go at it, I could try the genius method to bring it into my life. But then again, as chaol said, some of us get disappointed. I sense that others get suspicious of chaol's motives. Why would we want to see you, Chaol? A couple years ago, I went through some really profound and unparallelled "suffering" from my perspective. I decided that instead of getting rid of the very valuable people that "failed" me, I would hold onto the aspects of my relationships to them that held meaning to me. I made a conscious effort at noticing why they were justified in what would otherwise be "ruining" my life and saw how it only came to be because of my choice and intention (or lack thereof). It was a matter of "surrender" to "all is as it is now" and realizing that no matter how shitty this moment is, it is the best possible moment you can have NOW. I decided to look at "the beneficial" aspects of all "bad" situations. That was a basic foundation that allowed me to notice the opportunities before me, what was actually possible and what I should focus on to reduce the duration I am in a less preferred moment. I've become bluntly honest with myself and I can see how I am truly responsible for everything in my existence, I feel guided. It's not as if some "God" was showing the way, with his hand out... It is as if I've finally noticed how things "already are" and it makes me wonder why I had been living so confused and "quite dissatisfied" for so long. Sorry about the long run-on thought... but this is what I think people notice when they say they are guided and I really hope this resonates with you. It surely does. Thanks for your thoughts. |
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miqq User ID: 4362654 Argentina 10/31/2011 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?) Greetings all. Quoting: Chaol I am here. My apologies for not having much time to respond lately. I've been quite busy working on a project. It is interesting to 'observe' what some (many) here care to write as though they have learned nothing the past two years of reading what I write. Do we really think such things would happen in a way we expect, in every direction? Yes. You have transitioned to the dream world. But do you have any idea what that means? Some of you see it readily, some of you don't. (Some parts of your perspective are 'there' and some are still stuck 'over there'.) Some of you won't leave from over there and will never 'get there'. The evidence is all around you. Yet of course some of you ignore it easily. Understanding requires patience. Nothing has changed about the period of September 29 - October 28. I don't make predictions about the future. I illustrate observations in a way that benefits my purpose of introducing you to your new reality. Throwing fits reminds me of Karate Kid. Some of you speak as though you are already masters, and can dictate exactly how something happens. It happens.. but why would it happen in the way that you think it would? If something is obvious to you, why would it be obvious to all of you? (All of who you are, at this moment?) At this point.. there's not much I can say that I haven't already said. Some of you feel it. Some of you don't. Think what you will. (By the way.. I have not stopped playing chess-not-checkers) If you don't believe that any of this is likely then we shall not meet. Ask yourself 2 questions: 1) Do you understand how the universe works? 2) Could your current understanding be 100% inaccurate? What would it mean to not understand how things work? Could it mean that your assumptions, even that which you think has to be true, could be entirely "wrong"? You ignore what feels right (or is right) with Chaol and focus, instead, on your assumptions about reality that do not match with what I illustrate. Imagine, for a moment, that you knew and understood the truth about everything that ever was/is/will be. How distant do you think your current thinking would be from it? Do you think there is anything within that distance, like a universe of misplaced assumptions? Is it possible that that distance exists now? Half of you are upset that no "doom" has occurred a couple of hours into October 28. (Even when I did not tell you what would happen.) Half of the remainder are disappointed that you don't "feel anything different". When you are sick, do you feel it immediately? Most of the time you are sick, you've already been sick for 3-4 days. What does this tell you about your own awareness of what is going on around you (and even inside of you)? Of this, I can do nothing but 'observe'. I already see you for you. Do you see me? Well, that was very confusing to me. I'm the half that are disappointed. I really didn't notice any change. |
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