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Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)

 
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Nothing happened on 23th. Thread is invalid.
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LOL. Way, way wrong.

The 23rd was astonishing.
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As said it's all in your perspective.

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quote [Why should Western civilization be saved?

In helping to answer this question, imagine that your words heavily influence what happens next.

Imagine that you are Captain Jean Luc Picard standing in front of Q at Farpoint Station, and humanity is being put on trial. (Except you are helping to explain why Western civilization should not be destroyed.)

Strangely, your words will decide the "fate" of humanity.] emphasis added
 Quoting: curve


I think we, as a civilization, have potential but need a wake up call. I find most to be self absorbed, but during times of catastrophe many put their lives aside to help their fellow citizens. I've seen it time and time again, not just here but globally. I think we all want the same things, but find ourselves stuck in a situation we feel we have no control over and even if we come to see the bars on our cage, it is difficult to step outside the walls of the cage.
I lost my job over a year ago and it was the most freeing experience I have had in many years, where time once again was my own. I decided to return to school and began to learn how the bars came to be in the first place. If people could only realize to what lengths those who hold the power and the wealth have gone to create this reality you would be overwhelmed by the truth of it!
I think we have the potential to do good, to love our fellow human being but within a capitalist system which breeds competition as someone else pointed out and limits and directs our participation the task becomes difficult. Unfortunately, we live in a fear based and materialistic existence where the need to have has become more important than the need to do the right thing, all the time. With out an alternative readily available, short of going back to pre-technology, our lives have been intentionally wrapped up in our current way of living, so it makes it difficult for those of us who would like to live differently to do so.
I believe in the good of all people but few realize that it is simply their choice to live that good life and are caught up in this current reality and do not see the bars on their cage, nor do they see a need to hold those accountable for their grave disservice to humanity in spite of all the contradictions that are right in front of us.
I think all should not suffer the consequences for those crimes committed against humanity by the few, but sometimes the sledge hammer approach is needed to wake people up.
We have the ability to choose at any time to change, but few will desire to change either because they see nothing wrong with how things are going or they feel powerless to do anything about it so they become complacent or try to make the best of a bad situation.
Anyway, I would like to see change for the better, but without enough people desiring the same thing the demand is not there. Should Western Civilization be saved? I would say, if it is in the greatest good of all, then so be it, if it is not then what should happen will! I am ready to make the necessary sacrifices for the good of all but many are not! Does that mean I am willing to die for what I believe, absolutely! I have been humbled to the point of not seeking fulfillment at the expense of others, yet in this world all that I touch has been at the sacrifice of someone else and my heart is torn to know what others suffer so that I might have. But, I too am still trapped within this cage.
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So if destruction is necessary than how are we to be saved?
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bump hf
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Today...

9/29/2011

92/92/11
9+2/9+2/11

11/11/11

a triple 11 day, numerically
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when using a logical date order

as in smallest time frame first

29(d)/9(m)/2011(y)

29/9/2011

29/92/011

2+9/9+2/011

11/11/11

works either way!
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I have been studying your ecsys.org. I'm looking for additional coaching on the basic concepts required to bridge a gap (from my perspective) between thinking in EC and thinking in English. I am a mono-lingual (American) English speaker and I was (easily and embarrassingly) confused by your "constitution" example. You show how one might translate the word into EC language, then you note that "(The actual word is translated differently but this is just an example.)" which completely threw me off. I can't tell if you are being intentionally ambiguous or I am just too ignorant to understand.

What I do understand is; that it is all a matter of perspective, but what I don't quite get is whether or not the language of EC is meant to be one you can use to communicate with other "conscious" beings "aware" of it or is it something only to be used "internally?"

I've been witnessing "accelerated" change to my reality as I perceive it and I find that all this "end times" stuff (for me) is just a transitional period into a different perspective (for me).

Any coaching would be much appreciated.

Thank you Chaol.
Maybe... you are all powerful... all knowing... forever present in all ways... you've chosen to forget... remember?
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So when does the "shaking" begin?
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Getting a bit nervous now... ;-)
I notice that I get more emotional on simple things than I normally am.
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Here it's 12:00... Halfway the 29th...
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The thread title is September 29 - October 29 and doom on Oct 1st.... well lets see whats to happen. Love and peace
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Here it's 12:00... Halfway the 29th...
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The thread title is September 29 - October 29 and doom on Oct 1st.... well lets see whats to happen. Love and peace
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"September 29 - The Earth is shaken, not stirred. Like a bond."
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I am no native english speaker, but am I right if I think that to stir is more subtle than to shake?
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Thanks, Chaol for opening this discussion up.
Good to find it on the front page.

I continue to find what you write fascinating.


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is this person one to watch ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2207250

From my point of view, the most interesting on GLP at the moment.

Good to see old friends from the other thread -

Hi, Curve
Hi, Gespenst
Hi, Tuuuuur
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Hi friend!
hf
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"I am no native english speaker, but am I right if I think that to stir is more subtle than to shake?"

In the original Bond books it was "stirred not shaken", which is much better.

So anyone been shaken yet?
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"I am no native english speaker, but am I right if I think that to stir is more subtle than to shake?"

In the original Bond books it was "stirred not shaken", which is much better.

So anyone been shaken yet?
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Nothing here...
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I personally don't believe Western Civilization should be saved. If most people can't see what it is responsible for, then they are not looking. Sure there have been good things along the way but the good is not enough to redeem the bad. This is why we are in the situation we are now in.

The problem is people are to frightened to let go of it because they don't know what will replace it. However, it does not matter it is coming down anyway. It is in its death throws.

Why I don't like West. Civ.

1.) WASP & C - appear to believe we are THE RACE and entitled. As such we have decimated the indigenous people throughout the world. The very people whose knowledge we need right now because they knew how to live in balance with nature and we sure as hell don't.

2.) We don't play well with one another. We are fiercely competitive to a gigantic fault. I personally think we would do much better COOPERATING rather than competing.

3.) We have way too many wars. That traumatize us all even if we don't think they do.

4.) Most of us are so superficial talking about anything past the weather or last nights game really taxes us.

5.) We are all on too many meds. because we all have endogenous depression or anxiety. Come on we are so alienated form who we were meant to be that is our real problem. We have compromised ourselves so much we don't know who we really are But since now one can agree on anything we stay stuck.

6.) I could go on but writing this has depressed me and I need to take one of my meds.

Anyway, hopefully you see what I am getting at. The western world will fall because it needs to and it will take everything else with it. So get ready. And don't blame it all on TPTB cause we all played a role, myself included.
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who the, should be 'saved'?
 Quoting: curve 1010261


We need to come together and save ourselves, but most people don't see the need. They don't realize we are on the VERGE.
The process has begun
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quote [Why should Western civilization be saved?

In helping to answer this question, imagine that your words heavily influence what happens next.

Imagine that you are Captain Jean Luc Picard standing in front of Q at Farpoint Station, and humanity is being put on trial. (Except you are helping to explain why Western civilization should not be destroyed.)

Strangely, your words will decide the "fate" of humanity.] emphasis added
 Quoting: curve


I think we, as a civilization, have potential but need a wake up call. I find most to be self absorbed, but during times of catastrophe many put their lives aside to help their fellow citizens. I've seen it time and time again, not just here but globally. I think we all want the same things, but find ourselves stuck in a situation we feel we have no control over and even if we come to see the bars on our cage, it is difficult to step outside the walls of the cage.
I lost my job over a year ago and it was the most freeing experience I have had in many years, where time once again was my own. I decided to return to school and began to learn how the bars came to be in the first place. If people could only realize to what lengths those who hold the power and the wealth have gone to create this reality you would be overwhelmed by the truth of it!
I think we have the potential to do good, to love our fellow human being but within a capitalist system which breeds competition as someone else pointed out and limits and directs our participation the task becomes difficult. Unfortunately, we live in a fear based and materialistic existence where the need to have has become more important than the need to do the right thing, all the time. With out an alternative readily available, short of going back to pre-technology, our lives have been intentionally wrapped up in our current way of living, so it makes it difficult for those of us who would like to live differently to do so.
I believe in the good of all people but few realize that it is simply their choice to live that good life and are caught up in this current reality and do not see the bars on their cage, nor do they see a need to hold those accountable for their grave disservice to humanity in spite of all the contradictions that are right in front of us.
I think all should not suffer the consequences for those crimes committed against humanity by the few, but sometimes the sledge hammer approach is needed to wake people up.
We have the ability to choose at any time to change, but few will desire to change either because they see nothing wrong with how things are going or they feel powerless to do anything about it so they become complacent or try to make the best of a bad situation.
Anyway, I would like to see change for the better, but without enough people desiring the same thing the demand is not there. Should Western Civilization be saved? I would say, if it is in the greatest good of all, then so be it, if it is not then what should happen will! I am ready to make the necessary sacrifices for the good of all but many are not! Does that mean I am willing to die for what I believe, absolutely! I have been humbled to the point of not seeking fulfillment at the expense of others, yet in this world all that I touch has been at the sacrifice of someone else and my heart is torn to know what others suffer so that I might have. But, I too am still trapped within this cage.
 Quoting: Eastside45


I can relate to you 100%. When you are plugged into the matrix you can't see the forest for the tree's. The same thing happened to me in 2006 when I had to retire early due to an illness. I always knew there was something wrong with the entire system. It is all so corrupt and stupid just like the "KING IS STARK RAVING NAKED" BUT NO ONE WILL SAY SO. Well, now that I have extricated myself from my old senseless existence, I will say that the king has no close. LOL
The process has begun
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Maybe he means the bond market will be shaken
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As far as the reference to being shaken, not stirred-

In this context, the act of shaking means to 'mix'.

Not this kind ------> stir
The dreamer and the dream
One awakens inside the other
To rediscover itself once again
Have you hugged yourself today?
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Discovered Chaol's thread just a couple of days ago. Just wanted to thank him for all the information contained within it and his patience with all the questions asked about the material. What roped me in initially was both the eloquence and unwavering kindness shown to the members of the forum. Kudos.

My vote is a resounding NO for destruction of western society. Simply put, there are too many generous, caring souls stuck here in the mix to wipe us all out indiscriminately. Plenty of us have awakened to the fact that there is more to life than financial success... and that we all play a part in the drama unfolding around the world currently. Living in the US, I am amazed on a daily basis at both the acts of kindness I witness and the self-centered, myopic, racist view of the world that a good portion of the population has. On the whole it's a bit of a schizophrenic environment... duality on steroids.

If the point of all this would be to effectively wake us all up... then, why all the doom? It would be like pushing your child out of bed in the morning onto the ice cold floor. In this grand universe, surely there have been more poetic transitions between experiential vantage points.
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Thanks, Chaol for opening this discussion up.
Good to find it on the front page.

I continue to find what you write fascinating.


 Quoting: chocolategoddess


is this person one to watch ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2207250


From my point of view, the most interesting on GLP at the moment.

Good to see old friends from the other thread -

Hi, Curve
Hi, Gespenst
Hi, Tuuuuur


Hi chocolate!
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Hi again Chaol. I just wanted to say thanks for your website. I'm reading it now, and it actually makes sense to me. I still don't think the western world is worth saving though, at least not as it is now. However, I also acknowledge that this is due to my perception of the "western civilization". Perhaps further reading/action into this new system of thought/perception will help change this.

One thing i do have to say, although the world itself didn't (to my knowledge) get shaken today, I did. Thanks! hf
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FROM SPACEWEATHER.COM:

MERCURY PRESS CONFERENCE: NASA will announce new findings about Mercury during a press conference on Thursday, Sept. 29th. Tune in at 2 pm EDT to find out what the MESSENGER spacecraft has been learning about the innermost planet.
[link to spaceweather.com]
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"Yes, we have hurdles, we have distractions, we have disasters, personally and world-wide, and we do have to work it all out ourselves. BUT, there is a most amazing experience awaiting us on the other end of the finish-line.
The idea being, once we can handle it all down here, then we can live and explore eternally, responsibly, because we know what not to do, and not be resentful about being responsible, so we don't start a polarity domino effect in the other realms of existence."

"The Fraction" of Life can be increased in value not so much by increasing your Numerator as by lessening your Denominator. Nay, unless my Algebra deceive me, Unity itself divided by Zero will give Infinity."

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Maybe he means the bond market will be shaken
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Ah! Clever!
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What roped me in initially was both the eloquence and unwavering kindness shown to the members of the forum. Kudos.

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I wholly agree with your words, here, AC. My view is that Chaol always posts with great respect for others.

The feel of this thread seems to be changing now - less insults and more genuine interest.

Both threads are very much in focus right now on GLP.


Hey, guys from the first thread.... do you think today Chaol and the monks are opening the portal in Thailand?

And Saturday we perceive something OBVIOUS because of that??
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Head in the clouds
Warp level out
See it from a higher level
No need for the coins
Just flying high without no raccoon tail


Transform your eyes from the deceptions that beam down the purple haze. The real doomsday is for them. For they still fear and the people whom love will always win.

Postive thinking no blinking
Negative thinking constant blinking
It truly always was in the mind
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nice...
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What roped me in initially was both the eloquence and unwavering kindness shown to the members of the forum. Kudos.

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I wholly agree with your words, here, AC. My view is that Chaol always posts with great respect for others.

The feel of this thread seems to be changing now - less insults and more genuine interest.

Both threads are very much in focus right now on GLP.


Hey, guys from the first thread.... do you think today Chaol and the monks are opening the portal in Thailand?

And Saturday we perceive something OBVIOUS because of that??
 Quoting: chocolategoddess


I think this is possible. Here is a Chaol's post from the other thread:

As I mentioned, Ecsys is running the show now. Take it for what you make it, but the fact is that no one else knows what is happening right now (save for a few monks at the monastery that sits of top of the 'portal') because no one else has the "influence".
 Quoting: Chaol


Let's wait...
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ec is some made up nonsense...dumb little lines and dots...I challenge anyone to use this crap to communicate.... ridiculous
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I think this is possible. Here is a Chaol's post from the other thread:

As I mentioned, Ecsys is running the show now. Take it for what you make it, but the fact is that no one else knows what is happening right now (save for a few monks at the monastery that sits of top of the 'portal') because no one else has the "influence".
 Quoting: Chaol


Let's wait...
 Quoting: chocolategoddess
quoting Gespenst

Thanks for that, Gespenst.

And this, too, from the other thread....(I don't know how to quote across threads)

'Besides that, I'm re-activating a high energy 'portal' in the North of Thailand. There are a few left in the world, but this is the only one that still works.'

quoting Chaol on 27th Sept
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ec is some made up nonsense...dumb little lines and dots...I challenge anyone to use this crap to communicate.... ridiculous
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I wouldn't discredit ec so quick if I were you. If you have any knowledge of any type of computer programming language you might see the connection/relationship that this has towards a higher level of thinking. If you read through the page and understood what is being told, you might of found out that this type of "processing" is way more efficient then our current way of "processing" incoming data that is stored in our minds.

...Just saying
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I think this is possible. Here is a Chaol's post from the other thread:

As I mentioned, Ecsys is running the show now. Take it for what you make it, but the fact is that no one else knows what is happening right now (save for a few monks at the monastery that sits of top of the 'portal') because no one else has the "influence".
 Quoting: Chaol


Let's wait...
 Quoting: chocolategoddess
quoting Gespenst

Thanks for that, Gespenst.

And this, too, from the other thread....(I don't know how to quote across threads)

'Besides that, I'm re-activating a high energy 'portal' in the North of Thailand. There are a few left in the world, but this is the only one that still works.'

quoting Chaol on 27th Sept
 Quoting: Gespenst


Maybe the 'tremendous amount of energy' that came to Earth from the Sun on September 9th have something to do with the portal...

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