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Van Allen Belts, Doomed Satellites, Todays Announcement ?

 
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Sun's 'Superstorms' Could Doom Satellitesby Charles Q. Choi, SPACE.com ContributorDate: 27 September 2011 Time: 12:30 PM ET image CREDIT: NASA/SDO

I used a pin to get this out , this effects airplanes too.

This is a NEW ARTICLE
[link to www.space.com]
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Magnetic storms set off by the sun could pose a bigger threat than thought to weather, communication, military and other satellites close to Earth, with a potentially devastating economic impact, scientists suggest.

In the new study, researchers found that solar radiation can energize a belt of high-energy particles that surrounds Earth more dramatically than previously believed....

Scientists had known the outer belt could become far more intense during geomagnetic storms caused by high-energy particles spewed by the sun, such as the storm that supercharged Earth's northern lights display Monday night (Sept. 26). However, they have long thought such storms do not affect the inner belt.

Now computer simulations suggest that during a "superstorm" — which has occurred in the past and is likely to recur in the future ? the electrons in the inner belt, too, could become energized. Near-Earth radiation could then remain dramatically more intense for several years afterward.

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Lightning is known to clear the belts.
According to one article I read it is claimed that entire Continents could be set on fire from overcharged Van Allen Belts.
These belts are charged by radiation both from the sun and from the ground.
Japan's nuclear accident happening at the same time as solar maxium may have really gave them a one-two punch.

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so long as they block the sun all good
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No I don't think it is good at all.

This also explains the strange noises in the atmosphere.

The clearing of these killer electrons known to exist in the Van Allen Belts caused noise.

[link to www.physorg.com]
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Scientists previously discovered that electrons in the outer radiation belt can extract energy from these chorus waves to reach near-light speed and become killer electrons. The new research, confirmed by the team's THEMIS (Time History of Events and Macroscale Interactions during Substorms) observations, is that the chorus waves can be refracted into the inner portion of the radiation belts by dense plasma near Earth and bounce around from hemisphere to hemisphere within the radiation belts. When this happens, the chorus waves become disorganized and evolve into another type of radio wave called "hiss," according to the team.

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This brings into question the radar images of circular rings some people believe are Haarp donuts.

Are these donuts evidence of electric fields used to clear the Van Allen Belts of protonic build up.
These dounuts could be serving as an alternate charge carring path simular to lightning?

I don't believe I would want to be flying anywhere for a while. If this is not part of the coming announcement it should be!
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This brings into question the radar images of circular rings some people believe are Haarp donuts.

Are these donuts evidence of electric fields used to clear the Van Allen Belts of protonic build up.
These dounuts could be serving as an alternate charge carring path simular to lightning?

I don't believe I would want to be flying anywhere for a while. If this is not part of the coming announcement it should be!
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good point
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MAN, NOW THAT YOU POSTED THIS INFO - it won't happen - sorry, GLP effect!!!
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

operation starfish prime.
On 9 July 1962, at 09:00:09 Coordinated Universal Time, (which was 8 July, Honolulu time, at nine seconds after 11 p.m.), the Starfish Prime test was successfully detonated at an altitude of 400 kilometres (250 mi)

Starfish Prime was a high-altitude nuclear test conducted by the United States of America on July 9, 1962, a joint effort of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the Defense Atomic Support Agency (which became the Defense Nuclear Agency in 1971).

Launched via a Thor rocket and carrying a W49 thermonuclear warhead (manufactured by Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory) and a Mk. 4 reentry vehicle, the explosion took place 250 miles (400 kilometers) above a point 19 miles (31 kilometers) southwest of Johnston Island in the Pacific Ocean. It was one of five tests conducted by the USA in outer space as defined by the FAI. It produced a yield equivalent to 1.4 megatons of TNT.

After effects

While some of the energetic beta particles followed the Earth's magnetic field and illuminated the sky, other high-energy electrons became trapped and formed radiation belts around the earth. There was much uncertainty and debate about the composition, magnitude and potential adverse effects from this trapped radiation after the detonation. The weaponeers became quite worried when three satellites in low earth orbit were disabled. These man-made radiation belts eventually crippled one-third of all satellites in low earth orbit. Seven satellites failed over the months following the test as radiation damaged their solar arrays or electronics, including the first commercial relay communication satellite, Telstar.[9][10] Detectors on Telstar, TRAAC, Injun, and Ariel 1 were used to measure distribution of the radiation produced by the tests.[11]

In 1963, Brown et al. reported in the Journal of Geophysical Research that Starfish Prime had created a belt of MeV electrons,[12] and Wilmot Hess reported in 1968 that some Starfish electrons remained for five years.[citation needed] Others reported that radioactive particles from Starfish Prime descended to earth seasonally and accumulated in terrestrial organisms such as fungi and lichens.[citation needed]


i also read, that this nuketest in space, made the
radiation in VAN Allen much worse.
and it is also the cause of the atlantic annomalie!
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Here is another newly released article from the front on Google news that supports the first link I posted,

[link to www.foxnews.com]
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this nuke test in space have maken the radiation in Van Allen Area much worse!
This is the reason, why nearly all countries signed a contract that forbids nuktests in space!!!

this nuke tests in space are also the reason for
the atlantic annomalies! in this area the earthmagnetfield have only 30%!

and because of this space nuketest our belt is weaken!
when solarstorm is active we get much more radiation
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What does "Tomarrow" mean?
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What does "Tomarrow" mean?
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Dude, just shut up!
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What does "Tomarrow" mean?
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Dude, just shut up!
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What does "Tomarrow" mean?
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Lol I think it's like tomaytoe, tomatoe type of thing?
For the record OP lol TOMORROW I used to spell it wrong too then I got smart and discovered the dictionary!
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What time is the announcement?
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Well then I found out tomarrow is today
oh
tomorrow

but anywho,

some good points there Germany.
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Germany said
and because of this space nuke test our belt is weaken!
when solar storm is active we get much more radiation.

well then this explains
why we lost our magnetic shield a while back, it allowed for a large influx of protons supercharging the earth.

Is this contributing to the earthquakes?
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What time is the announcement?
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ditto that
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Seems like they are slowly getting the word out as to what is happening, The sun is going nuts and it's only a matter of time before we are back in the dark ages.
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WASHINGTON -- NASA will hold a news conference at 1 p.m. EDT on Thurs., Sept. 29, to reveal near-Earth asteroid findings and implications for future research. The briefing will take place in the NASA Headquarters James E. Webb Auditorium, located at 300 E St. SW in Washington.

NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) mission, launched in December 2009, captured millions of images of galaxies and objects in space. During the news conference, panelists will discuss results from an enhancement of WISE called Near-Earth Object WISE (NEOWISE) that hunted for asteroids.

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 Quoting: valendian


Holy shit we were very close to serious doom this past weekend!!!

I guess it is only a mater of time before we get wacked!!

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Thanks I was looking for this yesterday.
"I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride, even though sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams."

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Great video
U.K.

bet that is in the announcement!
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NASA announcement is about Mercury
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Is it OK to leave my tomaytoe plants outside or should I start making a permanent place for them in the bunker?
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Can't we stop the solar flares if we pay Al Gore and the IMF & World Bank a lot of money?
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Is it OK to leave my tomaytoe plants outside or should I start making a permanent place for them in the bunker?
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What the hell is a "tomaytoe" plant?
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Nice post YaKnow. thumbs
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