The problem with Socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money!!!

Maybe it should be.

The problem with Socialism on Credit is that eventually Creditors stop lending to you.

It's not like it doesn't all flow back up to Wall Street anyway.

The problem we have in this country is Socialism for Some, but not all people. That's the problem.


Middle class pays for Social Welfare to the poor who then in change spend the money at Stores owned by the Elite.

That's why the rich get richer. So Socialism is a failure right? So you have Welfare for both the Rich and the people that don't work but not for the people that actually create anything.

It is the creators/workers that actually give a currency its value.

The problem with capitalism is that it steals everyones money and then starts over (using Socialism as a bridge).

It's not the the rich fucks on Wall-Street can't print themselves some fiat money right?


This is the problem. They get to print as much as they want and buy as much as they want without working for it.

Same as the poor who get money without working for it.

So whether your rich or poor if you didn't get your money by actually working for it you are the enemy.

That's what the Wall-Street protests are about.

So what do we do.

We do know that Capitalism is good in some ways. But Capitalism always turns into Socialism because the Rich convince the people they can get something for nothing because by giving people something for nothing they are in fact enriching their OWN pockets in the process.


So lets say I buy up ALL the Grocery stores in American. I will convince the people that the poor need food stamps and encourage the middle class to pay for it. So the poor will have more money to spend at my stores.

Do you guys understand this? This is why wall street profits are so high while the middle class is shrinking. It's because all of our money is given to the Rich by proxy of giving it to the poor.

I can sense that this is above the intelligence level of the forum readers so I will let this die.

This is the problem with all money. Even non-fiat money.

You have to spend some to stay alive. Then you're in debt and need to persuade the other fella to give you some of his. He needs to do the same. Ergo, endless exponential growth becomes an obsession and Earth groans.

A future based on the only real currency, energy, is as inevitable as people criticising political systems.

Explain to me how you run out of money when you own the printing press ? Th reason the poor don't see any money is because the rich bankers have it all socked away for global investment..

Incorrect!

Incorrect? Is this a two year old's temper tantrum I hear?

Stop being an ideaouge and get a life. Learn from experience, not what the banksters want you to believe.

Trotsky, Lenin, Kerensky, Mao, Hitler, USA were all established at the hands of the Zionist banksters. It is called the Hegalian Dialectic.

But, alas, go suck your momma's tit.

Because Socialism, Communism, Fascism and Feudalism all produce the same result. A very small, rich ruling class lording over everyone else.

Our system of Gov't may not be perfect but it provides the opportunity for everyone to become what they may. So, if you want to be a wine soaked bum lying under a Seattle bridge, An average Joe with a white picket fence home or a wealthy millionaire, you have the opportunity in this country. And it had always been that way. This is the reason America had such a large middle class that is the envy the world over. This is the reason why everyone comes here. Is it not?

But, while we slept, the "Ism's" of communISM, fascISM, socialISM and FeudalISM have taken control and are creating havoc.

No matter what system we have, there will always be poor and rich. But at least with our system you have a chance an opportunity to choose and work towards a goal. Some make it and some don't but that's life. Better to have Freedom than no chance at all.

We need a return to American Values.

LOL, someone doesn't like to be told he is wrong.

Aside from that, your above post doesn't make a whole lot of sense, if you really want to discuss it I am willing. First you must be more clear on your position.

The thread title was written by a capitalist... cos their agenda is to take and own everyone's business, property and wealth...which in this man made recession is getting more obvious by the day LOL. Both are crap elitist hierarchal systems and so are effectively the same