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Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
What should I use to keep the bugs from eating my veggies and make it non harmful to eat. I would love an organic method, but I need to do something tomorrow or they will take over.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
diatomaceous earth. make sure it's food grade.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
just remove weeds by hand
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
diatomaceous earth. make sure it's food grade.
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Do you get that at home depot/?smilethankyou
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
just remove weeds by hand
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Waaay to big of a job, I have a very large garden
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
We used what was called 7 dust 40 years ago

use a hoe on weeds or pull buy hand

Last Edited by shinbone on 09/29/2011 05:14 PM
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
What should I use to keep the bugs from eating my veggies and make it non harmful to eat. I would love an organic method, but I need to do something tomorrow or they will take over.
 Quoting: flavapor


Micro nutrients are the best way to naturally reduce pests. Use liquid seaweed either directly into soil or applied as a spray onto the leaves. Micro nutrients allow plants to create their own pesticides and fungicides. To reduce weeds, first hand weed or use a weed whacker, then cover with cardboard and wood chips. If you choose to use diatamaceous earth make sure to wear facemask for breathing and safety goggles. Take it from someone who has experienced getting my eyes exposed, it leads to 8 hours of your eyes feeling like they are being ground in sand.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
diatomaceous earth. make sure it's food grade.
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Do you get that at home depot/?:smilethankyou:
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I found DE at Lowes, but it wasn't labled food grade.
I bought a small bag and switched to food grade DE from an online supplier. Also got an applicator: it spews the dust out.

DE is fossilzed plant matter and woks by attaching to and cutting the bugs' exoskeltons. Total dehydration. Have to reapply after rain.
Also use on base of plants and avoid using in the flowers. It kills bees too.

Saved my garden from earwigs.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
diatomaceous earth. make sure it's food grade.
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Do you get that at home depot/?:smilethankyou:
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I found DE at Lowes, but it wasn't labled food grade.
I bought a small bag and switched to food grade DE from an online supplier. Also got an applicator: it spews the dust out.

DE is fossilzed plant matter and woks by attaching to and cutting the bugs' exoskeltons. Total dehydration. Have to reapply after rain.
Also use on base of plants and avoid using in the flowers. It kills bees too.

Saved my garden from earwigs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1433040


Also, it's put into animal feed to reduce parasites and can be used to get rid of bedbugs and fleas. The dust is abbrasive, so use mask when applying.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
If you are going organic weeds add are a great source of geen matter for composting.Start a compost pile add some fall leaves ,turn over once and awhile add a litte water.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
What should I use to keep the bugs from eating my veggies and make it non harmful to eat. I would love an organic method, but I need to do something tomorrow or they will take over.
 Quoting: flavapor


Micro nutrients are the best way to naturally reduce pests. Use liquid seaweed either directly into soil or applied as a spray onto the leaves. Micro nutrients allow plants to create their own pesticides and fungicides. To reduce weeds, first hand weed or use a weed whacker, then cover with cardboard and wood chips. If you choose to use diatamaceous earth make sure to wear facemask for breathing and safety goggles. Take it from someone who has experienced getting my eyes exposed, it leads to 8 hours of your eyes feeling like they are being ground in sand.
 Quoting: farmerguy


Thanks for your input, by your avatar you must know your stuff. I am in Fl. and weeds here grow like crazy and laugh at round up.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
This is all such good info, thank u
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
use raise beds technic for veg garden - easy for weeding and drainage. 2 ft plus
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
What should I use to keep the bugs from eating my veggies and make it non harmful to eat. I would love an organic method, but I need to do something tomorrow or they will take over.
 Quoting: flavapor


Micro nutrients are the best way to naturally reduce pests. Use liquid seaweed either directly into soil or applied as a spray onto the leaves. Micro nutrients allow plants to create their own pesticides and fungicides. To reduce weeds, first hand weed or use a weed whacker, then cover with cardboard and wood chips. If you choose to use diatamaceous earth make sure to wear facemask for breathing and safety goggles. Take it from someone who has experienced getting my eyes exposed, it leads to 8 hours of your eyes feeling like they are being ground in sand.
 Quoting: farmerguy


Thanks for your input, by your avatar you must know your stuff. I am in Fl. and weeds here grow like crazy and laugh at round up.
 Quoting: flavapor


Roundup and food growing? No, no, no!

I too live in Florida and grow veggies and lots of fruit trees on my tiny, suburban lot.

Planning is the key to keep weeds to a minimum. Outline your beds, smother whatever is growing inside the outline with clear plastic for 2 or more weeks, sun will burn vegetation, heat soil to a couple of inches thus sterilizing most weed seeds.

Rake up what's left and add to compost maker, then layer newspaper and cardboard until you are really ready to plant. Layer weed barrier on soil, cut holes for your hardened off seedlings, plant them, mulch heavily.

Tuck french marigolds in here and there (bug repellers) and grow a couple or so of "sacrificial" pest plants close by in pots, they will show you what bad bugs you have and hopefully also attract the beneficial insects.

Patrol daily, pick pests and drown in a jar of soapy water, sprinkle DE just around base of plants and learn to make homemade bug killer/deterrent and by all means spend a little money buying beneficial insects, nematodes and earthworms.

Compost, compost and more compost will be your best friend for healthy and tasty crops, year after year!

Please - no more roundup! That stuff is Evil from Monsatan themselves!
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
i used everything i could organic, the neem oil worked ok for a while then i said screw it and bought this:
[link to www.google.com]
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
Weed control comes way back when you started the garden for The season. A barrier such as straw (not hay) mulch spread thickly between the rows and individual plants will keep most of the weeds down.

As for bugs, it depends on what type of bug you have. Insect soaps, pepper spray, diatamacious earth and various other ways are out there.

Companion planting, such as using garlic and onion between rows of tomato will keep the cut worm down. Marigold mixed with other things will keep aphids down.

You also need know know what critters are helpers. Ladybugs are well known to eat aphids, but there are other native insects that also attack aphids and many other pests.

Planning out your garden for the next 5 years also plays a row. People like to plant things in the same place year after year, thus they end up with disease and pest issues in plots of land. Another thing is like the example of tomatoes and potatoes. These two plants have several pest species and few diseases in common. Thus you never plant tomatoes where potatoes were grown and the other way around too.

And yes, you most likely will spend a lot of time hand picking bugs off your plants. Yes you will lose a good deal of your crop the first few years until you get a good idea of what pests are in your yard. Yes, even then you can easily lose 1/3rd of a crop or of several crops each year, so you need to plant.

There is intense gardening techniques coupled with successive planting which make companion planting work better. For instance, if you start your potatoes before the last frost, buried under a lot of mulch to keep the ground soft and warm, then you can harvest those and plant garlic or onion in the same bed. This way the onion bulbs will drive away/kill a majority of the bugs that attack potatoes.

Gardening organically means lots of time at the Public Library with BOOKS. NOT on the web. Way to much crap knowledge on the web, you need books and then you need to experiment, and don't be afraid of failures - they teach us a lot more than our 'wins'.
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09/29/2011 07:48 PM

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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
What should I use to keep the bugs from eating my veggies and make it non harmful to eat. I would love an organic method, but I need to do something tomorrow or they will take over.
 Quoting: flavapor


Micro nutrients are the best way to naturally reduce pests. Use liquid seaweed either directly into soil or applied as a spray onto the leaves. Micro nutrients allow plants to create their own pesticides and fungicides. To reduce weeds, first hand weed or use a weed whacker, then cover with cardboard and wood chips. If you choose to use diatamaceous earth make sure to wear facemask for breathing and safety goggles. Take it from someone who has experienced getting my eyes exposed, it leads to 8 hours of your eyes feeling like they are being ground in sand.
 Quoting: farmerguy


Thanks for your input, by your avatar you must know your stuff. I am in Fl. and weeds here grow like crazy and laugh at round up.
 Quoting: flavapor


Roundup and food growing? No, no, no!

I too live in Florida and grow veggies and lots of fruit trees on my tiny, suburban lot.

Planning is the key to keep weeds to a minimum. Outline your beds, smother whatever is growing inside the outline with clear plastic for 2 or more weeks, sun will burn vegetation, heat soil to a couple of inches thus sterilizing most weed seeds. I did that for 3 weeks

Rake up what's left and add to compost maker, then layer newspaper and cardboard until you are really ready to plant. Layer weed barrier on soil, cut holes for your hardened off seedlings, plant them, mulch heavily.

Tuck french marigolds in here and there (bug repellers) and grow a couple or so of "sacrificial" pest plants close by in pots, they will show you what bad bugs you have and hopefully also attract the beneficial insects.I have the marigolds

Patrol daily, pick pests and drown in a jar of soapy water, sprinkle DE just around base of plants and learn to make homemade bug killer/deterrent and by all means spend a little money buying beneficial insects, nematodes and earthworms.I do daily patrol, thats how i spotted these buggers, they werent there two days ago, than today bam munchin on my leaves

Compost, compost and more compost will be your best friend for healthy and tasty crops, year after year!I use mushroom mulch

Please - no more roundup! That stuff is Evil from Monsatan themselves!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1303529
I dont use it on my veg garden, just the ornamental ones and I havent used it cause the weeds love it

Thanks for the input, hopefully I get this under control
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
i used everything i could organic, the neem oil worked ok for a while then i said screw it and bought this:
[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: run away slave


I use neem oil
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
Funny cause I need help with vegetables in my weed garden.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
use raise beds technic for veg garden - easy for weeding and drainage. 2 ft plus
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Ditto. I use only raised beds and have very few weeds and if I do they are easy to pull.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
Weed control comes way back when you started the garden for The season. A barrier such as straw (not hay) mulch spread thickly between the rows and individual plants will keep most of the weeds down.

As for bugs, it depends on what type of bug you have. Insect soaps, pepper spray, diatamacious earth and various other ways are out there.

Companion planting, such as using garlic and onion between rows of tomato will keep the cut worm down. Marigold mixed with other things will keep aphids down.

You also need know know what critters are helpers. Ladybugs are well known to eat aphids, but there are other native insects that also attack aphids and many other pests.

Planning out your garden for the next 5 years also plays a row. People like to plant things in the same place year after year, thus they end up with disease and pest issues in plots of land. Another thing is like the example of tomatoes and potatoes. These two plants have several pest species and few diseases in common. Thus you never plant tomatoes where potatoes were grown and the other way around too.

And yes, you most likely will spend a lot of time hand picking bugs off your plants. Yes you will lose a good deal of your crop the first few years until you get a good idea of what pests are in your yard. Yes, even then you can easily lose 1/3rd of a crop or of several crops each year, so you need to plant.

There is intense gardening techniques coupled with successive planting which make companion planting work better. For instance, if you start your potatoes before the last frost, buried under a lot of mulch to keep the ground soft and warm, then you can harvest those and plant garlic or onion in the same bed. This way the onion bulbs will drive away/kill a majority of the bugs that attack potatoes.

Gardening organically means lots of time at the Public Library with BOOKS. NOT on the web. Way to much crap knowledge on the web, you need books and then you need to experiment, and don't be afraid of failures - they teach us a lot more than our 'wins'.
 Quoting: Dr. House


Thanks for the advice. My spring garden was beautiful and bountiful. Then I had to leave for 6 wks, my family didnt weed or check the plants. They became distressed since they didnt water enough and the bugs came in and overtook the garden. It has been hard watching everything die due to lack of love when I worked so hard on it. By the time i got back it was too far gone to save so I pulled it solarized it and sprayed it. Now that its fall I planted all my winter stuff but like I said the weeds are horrible, and this little bug that is antlike but thinner and longer and an orangy red is just killin me.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
dig them out . spray leafies with garlic . plant companions. marigold, garlic, pyrethium and tobacco ,peppermint and pennyroyal are some.
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Re: Need help with weeds in vegetable garden,
just remove weeds by hand
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THIS...always.
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Micro nutrients are the best way to naturally reduce pests. Use liquid seaweed either directly into soil or applied as a spray onto the leaves. Micro nutrients allow plants to create their own pesticides and fungicides. To reduce weeds, first hand weed or use a weed whacker, then cover with cardboard and wood chips. If you choose to use diatamaceous earth make sure to wear facemask for breathing and safety goggles. Take it from someone who has experienced getting my eyes exposed, it leads to 8 hours of your eyes feeling like they are being ground in sand.
 Quoting: farmerguy


Thanks for your input, by your avatar you must know your stuff. I am in Fl. and weeds here grow like crazy and laugh at round up.
 Quoting: flavapor


Roundup and food growing? No, no, no!

I too live in Florida and grow veggies and lots of fruit trees on my tiny, suburban lot.

Planning is the key to keep weeds to a minimum. Outline your beds, smother whatever is growing inside the outline with clear plastic for 2 or more weeks, sun will burn vegetation, heat soil to a couple of inches thus sterilizing most weed seeds. I did that for 3 weeks

Rake up what's left and add to compost maker, then layer newspaper and cardboard until you are really ready to plant. Layer weed barrier on soil, cut holes for your hardened off seedlings, plant them, mulch heavily.

Tuck french marigolds in here and there (bug repellers) and grow a couple or so of "sacrificial" pest plants close by in pots, they will show you what bad bugs you have and hopefully also attract the beneficial insects.I have the marigolds

Patrol daily, pick pests and drown in a jar of soapy water, sprinkle DE just around base of plants and learn to make homemade bug killer/deterrent and by all means spend a little money buying beneficial insects, nematodes and earthworms.I do daily patrol, thats how i spotted these buggers, they werent there two days ago, than today bam munchin on my leaves

Compost, compost and more compost will be your best friend for healthy and tasty crops, year after year!I use mushroom mulch

Please - no more roundup! That stuff is Evil from Monsatan themselves!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1303529
I dont use it on my veg garden, just the ornamental ones and I havent used it cause the weeds love it

Thanks for the input, hopefully I get this under control
 Quoting: flavapor


It is a constant labour of love...hf

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