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i will no doubt be highly flamed for posting this here. but i feel it is important enough to say here that i am going to withstand the stupid comments it will, no doubt, bring out in certain people. i hope i am wrong. and that somehow this will be actually well received and taken seriously as a subject to consider because this is very important for our civilization to continue for you to become , at least, slightly aware of this.

i am posting here straight from my fb and i have not corrected any typos i've made.

it is ironic that my motto on my page is "knowledge through nonsense" which is basically the theory that by confusing your mind you can insert new thoughts. i would do things like that on my cam, things that made no sense or words that seemed to have no related meaning in hopes that their brain would go into a more meditative mode and new ideas would make their way. i was trying to get people to v...iew nudity in a new nonsexual way by doing confusing and nonsexual things in the nude. like sitting in a chair upside down with the word "kangaroo" on it. i have no idea if i was successful. but that was my intent on a few things. and that is why my motto is "knowledge through nonsense. i am the clown come to jumble your brain to insert new ways of thinking. but is see it now being implented here in a very nefarious way and i don't think most people are aware of this technique or even care.

i am also very disturbed that peta is starting a hardcore porn site that will mix images of porn with images of animals being tortured. this is a very evil thing to do. but i suppose this is up there with slash/horror/gore films where sex i...s always mixed with horrible graphic violence. you know that they show these films to men to get them all jacked up to kill before they go out? they are using men's sexula urges AGAINST them. and men don't even seem to realize this or even care that they are being violated in this way. it's taking something away from you that should be sacred and pissing all over it and perverting it. so much so that you never get to know what it was like to NOT think that way. most men in the world now, with access to a computer, will probably NEVER know what is feels like to view a woman NOT through the lense of pornography. that si really sad and that is being taken away from YOU, men. i will give you an example in the next comment.

i saw a post online where a man said a woman came into his place of work later at night and asked him if he could help her fix something wrong with her sink. his mind IMMEDIATELY starting scattering all over the place with images of cheesy ...porn and the woman inviting the man over the "fix the sink" and all these scenarios went on in his mind about seeing her nude and what if that really happened what would he do? as his brain was thinking about probably ten different scenarios at a time, i am guessing, and how he would react to each one, he concluded that, in the end, he would be too scared to do anything sexual with her anyway. this guy is single, btw. and if you want to know why a lot of you men stay single it's because we, women, can usually pick up on the fact that you are thinking these thoughts even if we ask you a simple question like could you help us with the sink. it's so fucking overwhelming and creepy our brains are just fried from it. and i'm sure many other men's brains are fried, too. i mean, how EXHAUSTING it would be to ALWAYS see things through that filter. jjust jibberish flying through your mind. utter garbage. meanwhile you miss the chance to communiacte in an actual meaningful way with anither person because your brain is sio fixated on JUNK.

it's been mostly talked about how women are upset that their bodies are being used sexually to sell every product in the world, especially WAR. but what is never talked about, that i have ever seen, is how these images are actually an ASSAU...LT on the male mind. training it to always think of sex and thing being sold together. they merge and become one. your brain is literally being TRAINED to think in a way that no other man has ever had to deal with before. you are actually being BOMBARDED with sexual imagery almost everywhere you go and your mind automatically picks up on this and responds whether you want it to or not. your brains are being CHANGED. at no other time in history have men had such access or forced access to sexual imagery ever. the chemicals in your brain are actually being changed by this. and you don't even know it or seem to care. you seem to think it is just a problem for us women. let me tell you, you are being HOODWINKED and BAMBOOZLED into thinking this is "our" problem and not yours because for YOU it activates a pleasure center, so how can that be bad, right? this is a clockwork orange. where at the end the use the one thing that man actually finds pure pleasure in without violence, beethhoven's 5th. and in theend, it is used against him so that whenever he hears his favourite piece of music he becomes ill. then he is "cured". this is what is happening to YOU. to US. this has nothing to do with religion or ethics or morals or what gets you turned on in any kind of helpful way for you or anyone. all it does is you end up being the guy behind the counter paralyzed by thoughts of porn when a woman comes up to you to ask you for help to fix a sink. is this how you want to live? is that even LIVING? that seems to me like living in some sort of hell world where the things that give you pleasure are now a source of pain, confusion and take up so much of your mindspace that you are paralyzed and useless to actually do anything other than consume and obey orders. they WANT you in a highly over sexualized state at all times so that you cannot think clearly anymore. do you understand that? is that what you WANT? wouldn't it be NICE to be able to go outside or watch something on tv or see something and be free of useless garbage tumbling through your mind? and now, every time this guy sees this woman who asked him to help her, he will always remember that this is how he 1st thought of her. and so the relationship, if ever there was one, or if ever he sees her again, that will ALWAYS be there as part of his sitory with her whether he wants it or not.
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when i say "being used HERE in a nefarious way" i am referring to FB. not GLP. i was addressing that to my fb friends. although sexual imagery is also used here in nebulous ways, as well. yes, i know it depends on the person and yadda yadda. also, please ASSUME that when i talk about men or women i am GENERALIZING. i hope that is obvious enough. but i feel that someone will try to say "well, I"M not that way". well, if you're not then this post isn't about yhou then ok? i am generalzing. i do not speak for ALL women nor do i speak for ALL men. nor do ALL women feel the way i do nor is what i speak about happening to ALL men and ALL men are responding in EXACTLY the same way.
i hope you are smart enough to deduce that i am generalizing in a very big way. but in case for those of you who cannot tell, i am putting this disclaimer here so that i can be clear.
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Agree. We no longer see people as people. Add to that the fact that most people text or email each other and do not talk and even further dehumanization occurs.

Even working in a cubicle city can bring on this same mindset. Biologically, humans are only comfortable in settings of 50 or less recognizable faces, due to the tribe mentality that we lived in for centuries. But in these corporate containers we are lost in a sea of people. This creates nervousness that most are not even aware of and they end up depending on antidepressants or alcohol to get them through life.
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i also want to point out the fact that i have caps on the word "SEXUAL" as i know that will get your attention. that is, in part, how it works.
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I totally agree OP. Porn is used as a way to control men (mostly). It warps their perception of women, and causes problems between men and women.
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I totally agree OP. Porn is used as a way to control men (mostly). It warps their perception of women, and causes problems between men and women.
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Agree. We no longer see people as people. Add to that the fact that most people text or email each other and do not talk and even further dehumanization occurs.

Even working in a cubicle city can bring on this same mindset. Biologically, humans are only comfortable in settings of 50 or less recognizable faces, due to the tribe mentality that we lived in for centuries. But in these corporate containers we are lost in a sea of people. This creates nervousness that most are not even aware of and they end up depending on antidepressants or alcohol to get them through life.
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fuck alcohol , smoke weed everyday...


but yes, quite depressing
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I totally agree OP. Porn is used as a way to control men (mostly). It warps their perception of women, and causes problems between men and women.
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ive read somewhere that does porn does not negatively affect men views on women, it is more of their personality and how they were raised.

it is ironic that prostitution is legal if you put a camera in a room in hollyWOOD
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i'm sad this conversation ended so quickly but i guess that is what happens a lot with uncomfortable subject matter. it just goes to show there really needs to be a conversation about this and not have this brushed under the table again and again.
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this society would be so good if women were sold like propriety , like in the good old times.
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I guess men are too caught in the illusion, to actually have a proper perspective on things.
How many men DON'T watch porn in North American or western societies?.
1%? 5%? 10%?
I would not go higher than that....
The vast majority of men are soooooooooo controlled, that they can't even see it, never mind change it.
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I love it :)
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So, OP, are saying that when you look at a man
you are thinking that he is thinking about having
sordid sex with you?

It sounds to me, in all seriousness, like you have the
problem. Not all men are beasts that can't think in
more creative and productive ways than that.

I know plenty of women who get angry because they aren't
being noticed. We men are very busy people and when we
get out we like to talk about serious things, not just
fantasize about women.

Out of the threads on page one, yours is probably the only
sex thread going!
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While I agree that SOME men have been impacted by that crap...you completely ignore the impact feminism and porn have had on women. Women are more likely to have an affair than men. How often do you hear a "generally" heterosexual guy say something like, "boy, that guy is so hot, even I would do him"...never or next to never. How often do you hear of a woman say something like, "she is so hot, even I would mess around with her"...more often than I care to hear!

Check out the statistics. Some "sexual addiction" clinics say that now 45% of the people coming in with porn addiction are women. Things have changed...you need to see that.

I personally now many guys who have been sexually harassed by woman...it is not good no matter which way the thing rolls!


After all of the above...realize that the "sexual perversion" thing is just one facet of a Satanic all out attack on humanity...to drive it into treating humans as cattle and entertainment.
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So, OP, are saying that when you look at a man
you are thinking that he is thinking about having
sordid sex with you?

It sounds to me, in all seriousness, like you have the
problem. Not all men are beasts that can't think in
more creative and productive ways than that.

I know plenty of women who get angry because they aren't
being noticed. We men are very busy people and when we
get out we like to talk about serious things, not just
fantasize about women.

Out of the threads on page one, yours is probably the only
sex thread going!
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i reiterate:
"yes, i know it depends on the person and yadda yadda. also, please ASSUME that when i talk about men or women i am GENERALIZING. i hope that is obvious enough. but i feel that someone will try to say "well, I"M not that way". well, if you're not then this post isn't about yhou then ok? i am generalzing. i do not speak for ALL women nor do i speak for ALL men. nor do ALL women feel the way i do nor is what i speak about happening to ALL men and ALL men are responding in EXACTLY the same way.
i hope you are smart enough to deduce that i am generalizing in a very big way. but in case for those of you who cannot tell, i am putting this disclaimer here so that i can be clear."
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OP - do you know any guys who have feel they have been viewed as sexual objects or guys that have been sexually harassed?
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While I agree that SOME men have been impacted by that crap...you completely ignore the impact feminism and porn have had on women. Women are more likely to have an affair than men. How often do you hear a "generally" heterosexual guy say something like, "boy, that guy is so hot, even I would do him"...never or next to never. How often do you hear of a woman say something like, "she is so hot, even I would mess around with her"...more often than I care to hear!

Check out the statistics. Some "sexual addiction" clinics say that now 45% of the people coming in with porn addiction are women. Things have changed...you need to see that.

I personally now many guys who have been sexually harassed by woman...it is not good no matter which way the thing rolls!


After all of the above...realize that the "sexual perversion" thing is just one facet of a Satanic all out attack on humanity...to drive it into treating humans as cattle and entertainment.
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yes, we all know that (i hope) and books have been written on the subject of the sexualization of women, rape, and how women can be rapists too and yadda yadda etc etc etc.
can we try to stay on topic for ONCE on the issue.
i know it's all related but i am speaking of a specfic thing happening to A LOT of men. not ALL men, but i would say A LOT. more than i, personally, feel comfortable with from my own personal experience.

i would really like to talk about the subject about how MEN are affected. because i think this rarely gets talked about. no one likes to talk about it. so i'm trying to sgtart a conversation about it, as uncomfortable as it is.
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Pink Cat,

You seem to be operating under the impression that people are 'basically good'. I hate to be the one to tell you this, people are NOT basically good and wholesome.

Being 'good and wholesome' is taught to us.

Look at any preschooler, we find that most will lie - granted their lies are silly, easy to see through, but they lie. They were not taught how to lie, they just know how to do it.

We Teach our children that honesty is good, if let to their own devices they would lie all the time and only become good at being a liar.

Sharing: We have to teach children to share, their basic instinct is to hold on to a thing and be selfish.

These are basic examples of just how we humans are hardwired.

Sex is an interesting subject, it is part of everything we humans do because the ultimate purpose of sex is a singular selfish act, to make certain your genetic material survives.

The Victorians, long held as being the purist Modern peoples were the randiest people of all time. Their unwillingness to look sex square in the eye drove sexual perversions into up to then unheard of levels.

Yes, granted, it was all kept behind close doors... mostly, but the perversion was spectacular.

We enjoy a society of open (partial) openness about sexuality and sexual matters. As such we are able to confront many aspects of human behavior (such as child molestation) and 'do something' to deal with this problem that until pretty recently in human culture has been totally ignored.

You think that porn and the use of sexual material 'creates' sex depraved maniacs. The reality is that sex depraved maniacs created porn and have found interesting ways to produce it and publish it.

If you go back in history and see the real archeology, you find that sex was always there, porn was always there, sex toys were always there, S&M and many other forms of 'erotica' existed well before the advent of film.

Every new form of 'porn' we make is produced out of the desire to have more sexual stimulation.

It is human nature.
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i reiterate:
"yes, i know it depends on the person and yadda yadda. also, please ASSUME that when i talk about men or women i am GENERALIZING. i hope that is obvious enough. but i feel that someone will try to say "well, I"M not that way". well, if you're not then this post isn't about yhou then ok? i am generalzing. i do not speak for ALL women nor do i speak for ALL men. nor do ALL women feel the way i do nor is what i speak about happening to ALL men and ALL men are responding in EXACTLY the same way.
i hope you are smart enough to deduce that i am generalizing in a very big way. but in case for those of you who cannot tell, i am putting this disclaimer here so that i can be clear."
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Of course, not all men,,,I get it!

Just MOST men!!!

That isn't true OP...not by a long shot.
You are dreaming that most men want to get
you in bed.

Most men would rather not, or fix your sink either.
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Pink Cat,

You seem to be operating under the impression that people are 'basically good'. I hate to be the one to tell you this, people are NOT basically good and wholesome.

Being 'good and wholesome' is taught to us.

Look at any preschooler, we find that most will lie - granted their lies are silly, easy to see through, but they lie. They were not taught how to lie, they just know how to do it.

We Teach our children that honesty is good, if let to their own devices they would lie all the time and only become good at being a liar.

Sharing: We have to teach children to share, their basic instinct is to hold on to a thing and be selfish.

These are basic examples of just how we humans are hardwired.

Sex is an interesting subject, it is part of everything we humans do because the ultimate purpose of sex is a singular selfish act, to make certain your genetic material survives.

The Victorians, long held as being the purist Modern peoples were the randiest people of all time. Their unwillingness to look sex square in the eye drove sexual perversions into up to then unheard of levels.

Yes, granted, it was all kept behind close doors... mostly, but the perversion was spectacular.

We enjoy a society of open (partial) openness about sexuality and sexual matters. As such we are able to confront many aspects of human behavior (such as child molestation) and 'do something' to deal with this problem that until pretty recently in human culture has been totally ignored.

You think that porn and the use of sexual material 'creates' sex depraved maniacs. The reality is that sex depraved maniacs created porn and have found interesting ways to produce it and publish it.

If you go back in history and see the real archeology, you find that sex was always there, porn was always there, sex toys were always there, S&M and many other forms of 'erotica' existed well before the advent of film.

Every new form of 'porn' we make is produced out of the desire to have more sexual stimulation.

It is human nature.
 Quoting: Dr. House


THIS^^^^^

With the explicit addition that the above includes both men and women. I think it is getting worse...as humans move towards the "Singularity." Once the "Singularity" is reached...God have mercy on the earth!
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I agree. This imagery is like a drug, a stimulant, and it is sold to make money. The problem with using a stimulant over and over, is that there is a down side to it. Shallow relationships or depressed mood states if you stop using it.
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i reiterate:
"yes, i know it depends on the person and yadda yadda. also, please ASSUME that when i talk about men or women i am GENERALIZING. i hope that is obvious enough. but i feel that someone will try to say "well, I"M not that way". well, if you're not then this post isn't about yhou then ok? i am generalzing. i do not speak for ALL women nor do i speak for ALL men. nor do ALL women feel the way i do nor is what i speak about happening to ALL men and ALL men are responding in EXACTLY the same way.
i hope you are smart enough to deduce that i am generalizing in a very big way. but in case for those of you who cannot tell, i am putting this disclaimer here so that i can be clear."
 Quoting: Pink Cat with a Telephone Hat


Of course, not all men,,,I get it!

Just MOST men!!!

That isn't true OP...not by a long shot.
You are dreaming that most men want to get
you in bed.

Most men would rather not, or fix your sink either.
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you are trying to derail my thread with the tired ye olde "you are sexually undesirable to me" therefore, whatever you say is not worth listening to.

i don't think my sexual desirability or lack of it has anything to do with the point i am trying to make about this very important subject about MANY men. did i say most? no. i said i didn't say ALL. but i would say a LOT. and if you don't think so you are fooling yourself.

if you are not one of these men, then obvioysly i am not talking to you or about you. and this thread should be of no interest to you at all.

go talk about something else with someone else then.
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Pink Cat,

You seem to be operating under the impression that people are 'basically good'. I hate to be the one to tell you this, people are NOT basically good and wholesome.

Being 'good and wholesome' is taught to us.

Look at any preschooler, we find that most will lie - granted their lies are silly, easy to see through, but they lie. They were not taught how to lie, they just know how to do it.

We Teach our children that honesty is good, if let to their own devices they would lie all the time and only become good at being a liar.

Sharing: We have to teach children to share, their basic instinct is to hold on to a thing and be selfish.

These are basic examples of just how we humans are hardwired.

Sex is an interesting subject, it is part of everything we humans do because the ultimate purpose of sex is a singular selfish act, to make certain your genetic material survives.

The Victorians, long held as being the purist Modern peoples were the randiest people of all time. Their unwillingness to look sex square in the eye drove sexual perversions into up to then unheard of levels.

Yes, granted, it was all kept behind close doors... mostly, but the perversion was spectacular.

We enjoy a society of open (partial) openness about sexuality and sexual matters. As such we are able to confront many aspects of human behavior (such as child molestation) and 'do something' to deal with this problem that until pretty recently in human culture has been totally ignored.

You think that porn and the use of sexual material 'creates' sex depraved maniacs. The reality is that sex depraved maniacs created porn and have found interesting ways to produce it and publish it.

If you go back in history and see the real archeology, you find that sex was always there, porn was always there, sex toys were always there, S&M and many other forms of 'erotica' existed well before the advent of film.

Every new form of 'porn' we make is produced out of the desire to have more sexual stimulation.

It is human nature.
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firstly, i never said porn turns men into "sex depraved maniacs". and yes, some sort of "porn" has probably always existed.
my POINT is the fact that MANY men NOW, in this TIME PERIOD have 24/7 access to more pornography of every single type you can possible think of and not think of. this is not a discussion or question of "is porn bad?"
whether it is bad or good for you is up for you to decide.


what i am SAYING is, to use an analogy that just because we CAN have ALL the ice cream in every single flavour at every hour of the day or night for free. should we then ake advantage of that because 1. ice cream is yummy 2. it is free 3. i can have as much as i want 4. it does have some nutrients in it that are good for you.

we have never before, in ANY time in HISTORY had access to SO MUCH ICE CREAM IN EVERY FLAVOUR FOR FREE in the history of anyone's life. period.


i like SUGAR makes kids go a little wonky, i am suggesting that perhaps too much "ice cream" is not always a GOOD thing and IN FACT can be used to CONTROL YOU in much the same way it is easier to control a drug addict.

because what we take in, physically, emotionally, psychically, chemically CHANGES us. and then we have to deal with this chemical change. and i don't think this is being explored in a very big way by the "sheeple", as many call them. just as MANY people are braiwashed into drinking flouridated water. i believe, i SEE and EXPERIENCE, a change in the basic fabric of society because i believe WE , the ones with coomputers, now have access to more sugar than our bodies could ever digest. and i am suggesting that this is perhaps something that should be looked into.

because believe me, the GOVERNMENT and the ELITES know all about it and no EXACTLY how to control you with it. do you not think they haven't done thousands of studies on how to control us through our pleasure centers as WELL as fear?

this needs to be addressed. because i think a lot of men think they are getting a good deal right now in the porn depaartment and i woudld suggest that might no be the case in many instances.

i see this changing the fabric of society as a whole because it changes us CHEMICALLY, in the same way too much corn syrup or gmos or whatever are going to change you chemically. and society is going through a mASSIVE sugar high right now and no doubt will crash soon at the expense of much and i see now that a few men are actually figuring this out for themselves , which is very very good.

when i ask a man "how llong can you go without porn" the answer is almost "why would i want to?"
and no thought is given past that.
i think that is something which needs to be discussed.
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a lot of valid theorizing has been written here.
I have heard that viewing porn actually changes brain chemistry in similar manner as a physical drug addition.
That cannot be healthy.

Also, it is true that porn is produced by people who lack morals and ethics. All people are capable of acting depraved, we either are more private about it or more disciplined and restrain or re channel that energy into more socially acceptable activities.

Something that has gotten my attention is source. If one goes way back to the beginning of the Book of Genesis, one will see that angelic beings left their first estate and somehow managed to make daughters of men their wives who produced offspring that were giants and men of renown.

fast forward to alien abduction stories. People generally report an bodily examination of some sort, often sexually oriented. Cattle mutilations, sexual organs removed.

Stories from 1947 Roswell introduce us to an alien called a "Gray".
A man who researches this stuff, LA Marzulli, notes the similarities between a "gray" and a human fetus. He has a theory that these fallen angels, watchers, are using human materials to prepare physical bodies for themselves that can operate in our physical world. That whole diatribe is to say that these same entities influence men and our thoughts, so of course they would steer us into thinking about sexual issues even more frequently than we might normally do so.

Yeshua (Jesus) responded to a question regarding who would be a certain woman's husband in heaven if she had multiple marriages. Yeshua replied that in heaven, people would be as the angels, neither married nor given in marriage.Angels who left their first estate to experience sexuality are part of the current problem

thanks for your views of this blight on humanity.
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I was raised to respect women and am a bit "old school" to the point where I avoid cursing in front of women. I think you may be painting with a broad brush. I have to say that you have a point. I also have the feeling that you're not an attractive woman...
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OP - do you know any guys who have feel they have been viewed as sexual objects or guys that have been sexually harassed?
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that is not the subject.
the subject is not do some men feel they are viewed as sexual objects or feel they are being sexually harrassed (by people, i assume you mean).

i am TRYING to address the fact that for MANY men a chemical alteration takes place when certain stimuli are placed before such person. and there has never ever before in any time in history where we, the people with computers, have had 24/7 access to any of this stimuli. so this is a new occurrence. i am bringing this up in the same way someone would talk about gmos or flouridated water, to put it very simply. but it's obviously way more complex than that because so much more is inivolved in "sex" it permeates through practically every aspect of our life.
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It's fucking screwed and I hate it all.

Basically.
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i will no doubt be highly flamed for posting this here. but i feel it is important enough to say here that i am going to withstand the stupid comments it will, no doubt, bring out in certain people. i hope i am wrong. and that somehow this will be actually well received and taken seriously as a subject to consider because this is very important for our civilization to continue for you to become , at least, slightly aware of this.

i am posting here straight from my fb and i have not corrected any typos i've made.

it is ironic that my motto on my page is "knowledge through nonsense" which is basically the theory that by confusing your mind you can insert new thoughts. i would do things like that on my cam, things that made no sense or words that seemed to have no related meaning in hopes that their brain would go into a more meditative mode and new ideas would make their way. i was trying to get people to v...iew nudity in a new nonsexual way by doing confusing and nonsexual things in the nude. like sitting in a chair upside down with the word "kangaroo" on it. i have no idea if i was successful. but that was my intent on a few things. and that is why my motto is "knowledge through nonsense. i am the clown come to jumble your brain to insert new ways of thinking. but is see it now being implented here in a very nefarious way and i don't think most people are aware of this technique or even care.

i am also very disturbed that peta is starting a hardcore porn site that will mix images of porn with images of animals being tortured. this is a very evil thing to do. but i suppose this is up there with slash/horror/gore films where sex i...s always mixed with horrible graphic violence. you know that they show these films to men to get them all jacked up to kill before they go out? they are using men's sexula urges AGAINST them. and men don't even seem to realize this or even care that they are being violated in this way. it's taking something away from you that should be sacred and pissing all over it and perverting it. so much so that you never get to know what it was like to NOT think that way. most men in the world now, with access to a computer, will probably NEVER know what is feels like to view a woman NOT through the lense of pornography. that si really sad and that is being taken away from YOU, men. i will give you an example in the next comment.

i saw a post online where a man said a woman came into his place of work later at night and asked him if he could help her fix something wrong with her sink. his mind IMMEDIATELY starting scattering all over the place with images of cheesy ...porn and the woman inviting the man over the "fix the sink" and all these scenarios went on in his mind about seeing her nude and what if that really happened what would he do? as his brain was thinking about probably ten different scenarios at a time, i am guessing, and how he would react to each one, he concluded that, in the end, he would be too scared to do anything sexual with her anyway. this guy is single, btw. and if you want to know why a lot of you men stay single it's because we, women, can usually pick up on the fact that you are thinking these thoughts even if we ask you a simple question like could you help us with the sink. it's so fucking overwhelming and creepy our brains are just fried from it. and i'm sure many other men's brains are fried, too. i mean, how EXHAUSTING it would be to ALWAYS see things through that filter. jjust jibberish flying through your mind. utter garbage. meanwhile you miss the chance to communiacte in an actual meaningful way with anither person because your brain is sio fixated on JUNK.

it's been mostly talked about how women are upset that their bodies are being used sexually to sell every product in the world, especially WAR. but what is never talked about, that i have ever seen, is how these images are actually an ASSAU...LT on the male mind. training it to always think of sex and thing being sold together. they merge and become one. your brain is literally being TRAINED to think in a way that no other man has ever had to deal with before. you are actually being BOMBARDED with sexual imagery almost everywhere you go and your mind automatically picks up on this and responds whether you want it to or not. your brains are being CHANGED. at no other time in history have men had such access or forced access to sexual imagery ever. the chemicals in your brain are actually being changed by this. and you don't even know it or seem to care. you seem to think it is just a problem for us women. let me tell you, you are being HOODWINKED and BAMBOOZLED into thinking this is "our" problem and not yours because for YOU it activates a pleasure center, so how can that be bad, right? this is a clockwork orange. where at the end the use the one thing that man actually finds pure pleasure in without violence, beethhoven's 5th. and in theend, it is used against him so that whenever he hears his favourite piece of music he becomes ill. then he is "cured". this is what is happening to YOU. to US. this has nothing to do with religion or ethics or morals or what gets you turned on in any kind of helpful way for you or anyone. all it does is you end up being the guy behind the counter paralyzed by thoughts of porn when a woman comes up to you to ask you for help to fix a sink. is this how you want to live? is that even LIVING? that seems to me like living in some sort of hell world where the things that give you pleasure are now a source of pain, confusion and take up so much of your mindspace that you are paralyzed and useless to actually do anything other than consume and obey orders. they WANT you in a highly over sexualized state at all times so that you cannot think clearly anymore. do you understand that? is that what you WANT? wouldn't it be NICE to be able to go outside or watch something on tv or see something and be free of useless garbage tumbling through your mind? and now, every time this guy sees this woman who asked him to help her, he will always remember that this is how he 1st thought of her. and so the relationship, if ever there was one, or if ever he sees her again, that will ALWAYS be there as part of his sitory with her whether he wants it or not.
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Very good thread! Muslims have known this for centuries, that is why they cover their Women in Burkas.
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I was raised to respect women and am a bit "old school" to the point where I avoid cursing in front of women. I think you may be painting with a broad brush. I have to say that you have a point. I also have the feeling that you're not an attractive woman...
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yes, i DID state i AM painting with a broad brush.
for the sake of simplicity i am doing this. so that it can be discussed.

my attractiveness or nonattractiveness have to do with any of this but i have noted that a lot of men like to try to shut up a person in this way and be dismissive and derail.
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i will no doubt be highly flamed for posting this here. but i feel it is important enough to say here that i am going to withstand the stupid comments it will, no doubt, bring out in certain people. i hope i am wrong. and that somehow this will be actually well received and taken seriously as a subject to consider because this is very important for our civilization to continue for you to become , at least, slightly aware of this.

i am posting here straight from my fb and i have not corrected any typos i've made.

it is ironic that my motto on my page is "knowledge through nonsense" which is basically the theory that by confusing your mind you can insert new thoughts. i would do things like that on my cam, things that made no sense or words that seemed to have no related meaning in hopes that their brain would go into a more meditative mode and new ideas would make their way. i was trying to get people to v...iew nudity in a new nonsexual way by doing confusing and nonsexual things in the nude. like sitting in a chair upside down with the word "kangaroo" on it. i have no idea if i was successful. but that was my intent on a few things. and that is why my motto is "knowledge through nonsense. i am the clown come to jumble your brain to insert new ways of thinking. but is see it now being implented here in a very nefarious way and i don't think most people are aware of this technique or even care.

i am also very disturbed that peta is starting a hardcore porn site that will mix images of porn with images of animals being tortured. this is a very evil thing to do. but i suppose this is up there with slash/horror/gore films where sex i...s always mixed with horrible graphic violence. you know that they show these films to men to get them all jacked up to kill before they go out? they are using men's sexula urges AGAINST them. and men don't even seem to realize this or even care that they are being violated in this way. it's taking something away from you that should be sacred and pissing all over it and perverting it. so much so that you never get to know what it was like to NOT think that way. most men in the world now, with access to a computer, will probably NEVER know what is feels like to view a woman NOT through the lense of pornography. that si really sad and that is being taken away from YOU, men. i will give you an example in the next comment.

i saw a post online where a man said a woman came into his place of work later at night and asked him if he could help her fix something wrong with her sink. his mind IMMEDIATELY starting scattering all over the place with images of cheesy ...porn and the woman inviting the man over the "fix the sink" and all these scenarios went on in his mind about seeing her nude and what if that really happened what would he do? as his brain was thinking about probably ten different scenarios at a time, i am guessing, and how he would react to each one, he concluded that, in the end, he would be too scared to do anything sexual with her anyway. this guy is single, btw. and if you want to know why a lot of you men stay single it's because we, women, can usually pick up on the fact that you are thinking these thoughts even if we ask you a simple question like could you help us with the sink. it's so fucking overwhelming and creepy our brains are just fried from it. and i'm sure many other men's brains are fried, too. i mean, how EXHAUSTING it would be to ALWAYS see things through that filter. jjust jibberish flying through your mind. utter garbage. meanwhile you miss the chance to communiacte in an actual meaningful way with anither person because your brain is sio fixated on JUNK.

it's been mostly talked about how women are upset that their bodies are being used sexually to sell every product in the world, especially WAR. but what is never talked about, that i have ever seen, is how these images are actually an ASSAU...LT on the male mind. training it to always think of sex and thing being sold together. they merge and become one. your brain is literally being TRAINED to think in a way that no other man has ever had to deal with before. you are actually being BOMBARDED with sexual imagery almost everywhere you go and your mind automatically picks up on this and responds whether you want it to or not. your brains are being CHANGED. at no other time in history have men had such access or forced access to sexual imagery ever. the chemicals in your brain are actually being changed by this. and you don't even know it or seem to care. you seem to think it is just a problem for us women. let me tell you, you are being HOODWINKED and BAMBOOZLED into thinking this is "our" problem and not yours because for YOU it activates a pleasure center, so how can that be bad, right? this is a clockwork orange. where at the end the use the one thing that man actually finds pure pleasure in without violence, beethhoven's 5th. and in theend, it is used against him so that whenever he hears his favourite piece of music he becomes ill. then he is "cured". this is what is happening to YOU. to US. this has nothing to do with religion or ethics or morals or what gets you turned on in any kind of helpful way for you or anyone. all it does is you end up being the guy behind the counter paralyzed by thoughts of porn when a woman comes up to you to ask you for help to fix a sink. is this how you want to live? is that even LIVING? that seems to me like living in some sort of hell world where the things that give you pleasure are now a source of pain, confusion and take up so much of your mindspace that you are paralyzed and useless to actually do anything other than consume and obey orders. they WANT you in a highly over sexualized state at all times so that you cannot think clearly anymore. do you understand that? is that what you WANT? wouldn't it be NICE to be able to go outside or watch something on tv or see something and be free of useless garbage tumbling through your mind? and now, every time this guy sees this woman who asked him to help her, he will always remember that this is how he 1st thought of her. and so the relationship, if ever there was one, or if ever he sees her again, that will ALWAYS be there as part of his sitory with her whether he wants it or not.
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Very good thread! Muslims have known this for centuries, that is why they cover their Women in Burkas.
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and how is that working out for them?
is that working out well?
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OP - do you know any guys who have feel they have been viewed as sexual objects or guys that have been sexually harassed?
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that is not the subject.
the subject is not do some men feel they are viewed as sexual objects or feel they are being sexually harrassed (by people, i assume you mean).

i am TRYING to address the fact that for MANY men a chemical alteration takes place when certain stimuli are placed before such person. and there has never ever before in any time in history where we, the people with computers, have had 24/7 access to any of this stimuli. so this is a new occurrence. i am bringing this up in the same way someone would talk about gmos or flouridated water, to put it very simply. but it's obviously way more complex than that because so much more is inivolved in "sex" it permeates through practically every aspect of our life.
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That did address your position...as well as the Dr. House reply addressed your thesis. Porn has been around for eons! You are incorrect about it being a recent stimuli. As for it being a "mostly male" thing. You appear to be approaching this issue from a limited view. That is why the question "do you know men who have been objectified or harassed?" Are GMOs new - yes. Is fluoridated water a new phenomenon...yes. Is porn new...NO! In fact the Bible provides several examples of whole cities that have lost their marbles when it comes to sex...Sodom and Gomorrah, the whole tribe of the Benjamites. Whether you agree or disagree with the Bible...it does provide a historical argument about hideous sexual perversion NOT being a new phenomenon.

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