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the big, bright object in the eastern sky that everyone is seeing is not a planet....

 
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It is NOT JUPITER. Jupiter is OVERHEAD (5:45 AM) and I clearly tracked Jupiter in with my 80mm refractor. This object everyone is talking about is NOT JUPITER. I looked at it through the 80mm refractor and it just looked bright, very very bright. But it is not a planet. It is much MUCH larger in the optics than Jupiter but has no distinct shape in the scope. It is just bright. But Jupiter was nearly directly overhead which I confirmed in the scope, (I've seen Jupiter through the scope a million times and know what it looks like, with the 80 I see two distinct divisions in Jupiter, plus 5 moons). This thing is something else. It is NOT JUPITER. I can confirm that.whatever:
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So an amateur astronomer at last telling something else. Thanks. I saw that object last night again and it was bigger and brighter.
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OP, it is 100% without a doubt Jupiter. I've been watching it for over 10 years. I was out last night with my telescope looking at it. Jupiter is by far the brightest thing in the night sky aside from the Moon right now, with an apparent magnitude of about -2.70. You can find out the rise/set times for Jupiter here: [link to aa.usno.navy.mil] It will continue to get brighter as we move closer together in our orbits....see [link to www.solarsystemscope.com] .



I took this pic with my camera using a 200mm lens. You can see Jupiter and 4 of its moons. [link to i439.photobucket.com]


Last night was the first time I tried to connect my dslr camera to my telescope using a t-ring adapter. My setup isn't really made for astrophotography, so excuse the bad quality.

Jupiter:
[link to i439.photobucket.com]


The Orion Nebula came out a little better:
[link to i439.photobucket.com]


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That Orion Nebula looks beautiful!!!
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well, maybe it is jupiter then...but i still wonder.....
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OK people are saying it's 100% Jupiter but... Why isn't Jupiter now a morning star/planet with Venus???? Shouldn't they have moved together when Venus transited the sun???? (they were always together in the night sky)
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Saw it this morning, 4am when I woke up, central US. Immediately pulled up stellarium because it was massive and bright. It is Jupiter though. Right where it should be. My question is, why is it so bright.
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Saw it this morning, 4am when I woke up, central US. Immediately pulled up stellarium because it was massive and bright. It is Jupiter though. Right where it should be. My question is, why is it so bright.
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You are saying 4am but they are talking about a NIGHT bright star so can't be the same one???
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Saw it this morning, 4am when I woke up, central US. Immediately pulled up stellarium because it was massive and bright. It is Jupiter though. Right where it should be. My question is, why is it so bright.
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You are saying 4am but they are talking about a NIGHT bright star so can't be the same one???
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Look at the date
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Saw it this morning, 4am when I woke up, central US. Immediately pulled up stellarium because it was massive and bright. It is Jupiter though. Right where it should be. My question is, why is it so bright.
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It reflects sunlight. It's exactly as bright as it should be. I'll be addressing this in a new thread soon.
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Old thread - planets move around.


RIGHT NOW - 30th August 2012....

The VERY bright object to the east around 4am is Venus.
The less bright (but still brighter than the other stars) object higher up, is Jupiter.

I know for sure, that this is what these thngs are - I have been viewing them regularly with my own telescopes, when cloud-cover permits.

Venus has actually dimmed slightly from a few weeks ago (though still VERY bright)
It is currently a little past the point of greatest western elongation - looks like a tiny half-moon (Venus slowly goes through pahses like the Moon)
Jupiter is now heading towards the best time for viewing.
Rising earlier and earlier each night - It was just peeking above the trees opposite my house, a little after midnight last night - currently OK for viewing by 2am or so - it'll be at it's best (high enough to view, at a reasonable time of night), November through December and into the early part of 2013 (oppostion is Dec 3rd)
Fascinating to watch it's 4 biggest moons dance around the planet from one night to the next - and you can do this with decent binoculars, no telescope required.

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Gah!, beat me to it Astro neener

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Seen it the last couple of nights about 4am on my way home from work..

in the south of Ireland by the way.
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Looks like Jupiter.
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Saw it this morning, 4am when I woke up, central US. Immediately pulled up stellarium because it was massive and bright. It is Jupiter though. Right where it should be. My question is, why is it so bright.
 Quoting: FullMoonRising


You are saying 4am but they are talking about a NIGHT bright star so can't be the same one???
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Look at the date
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doh, I is stoopid sorry
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Stellarium has Jupiter comming up at 12 midnight to 1am not 10pm
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well, maybe it is jupiter then...but i still wonder.....
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Sigh. We are individuals, don't get assimilated by bullies forcing a hive mind. This is not math which has definite answers. We Are Being Told It's Jupiter. I have seen this thing (really bright, really close) for the past two years. As a child, I was told Jupiter was the brightest star in the sky. This is not the same star that was pointed out to me for many years growing up.
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I think it's Sirius, the Dog Star, in its helical (predawn) rising in late summer (which, by the way, was a celestial sign to the ancient Egyptians that it was the time of the annual Nile River flooding in Lower Egypt (northern Egypt). Thus the saying, "The Dog Days ofSummer". August 26 is, interestingly, "National Dog Day", also.
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We Are Being Told It's Jupiter.
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I view these things in the sky, on a regular basis.
I see them regularly, with my own eyes, through my own telescope - i don't need to be 'told' anything.
I ALWAYS know all the major planets' approximate positions in the sky.
The very bright thing to the East at around 4am IS venus
The next brightest object, higher to the east at the same time IS jupiter

As a child, I was told Jupiter was the brightest star in the sky.
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Then you were told wrong.
For a start, Jupiter is a planet, not a star.
And the brightest planet, is Venus, not Jupiter
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I think it's Sirius, the Dog Star, in its helical (predawn) rising in late summer (which, by the way, was a celestial sign to the ancient Egyptians that it was the time of the annual Nile River flooding in Lower Egypt (northern Egypt). Thus the saying, "The Dog Days ofSummer". August 26 is, interestingly, "National Dog Day", also.
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Sirius is further towards the South than venus - currently rises a good 2hrs later than venus - and is NOWHERE NEAR as bright.
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Everyone is noticing the Bright Star in the Eastern Night Sky. It is Jupiter !

Jupiter is known as the Kings Star.

And right now it is below Aries and almost in Cetus the whale constellation, which was known as Jonahs fish.

There is 88 drawn out constellations in the sky that tell the Biblical story. Everything from Argo the Ship (Noahs ark) to Ara the Altar and temple sacrifice.

Is Jupiter in Jonah a sign on the coming of Christ?

(Note, regarding Sirius, This bright star is south at dawn. Notice that a line from Orion’s Belt to points to Sirius.
Sirius appears to flash rainbow colors when it’s low in the sky)

:jupiter23:

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" Matthew 24:3

It seeks a sign, but no sign will be given it, except the sign of Jonah. Just as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so will the Son of Man be to this generation. At the judgment the queen of the south will rise with the men of this generation and she will condemn them, because she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and there is something greater than Solomon here. At the judgment the men of Nineveh will arise with this generation and condemn it, because at the preaching of Jonah they repented, and there is something greater than Jonah here. (Luke 11:29-32)

Now lets look at the first sign of Jonah, Jesus was in the tomb for three days and three nights and then arose, this was at Easter.

Here is a lesson on the Fallen Dragon. Draco !

This is the constellation Draco . As you can see at every Easter, Draco Constellation dips lower and lower in the west as the Sun (Son of God ) rises . It appears to FALL so to speak as the dragon was cast down in Heaven.

:draco23:
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY
the "christs" are already here,wake up gods and goddesses that the Mayan version of the "bible" predicted with the 14,400 galactic alinement cycles(144,000 in todays "bible" version)..the Vatican/Romans added zero's and took zero's away from the ancient coda of scientific metaphors and put there names and places spin on it..here's the thread that will wake any god and goddess up from Caesar's 7th day rest calender> 777 is the number of god and i am god...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Everyone is noticing the Bright Star in the Eastern Night Sky. It is Jupiter !

Jupiter is known as the Kings Star.

And right now it is below Aries and almost in Cetus the whale constellation, which was known as Jonahs fish.

There is 88 drawn out constellations in the sky that tell the Biblical story. Everything from Argo the Ship (Noahs ark) to Ara the Altar and temple sacrifice.

Is Jupiter in Jonah a sign on the coming of Christ?

(Note, regarding Sirius, This bright star is south at dawn. Notice that a line from Orion’s Belt to points to Sirius.
Sirius appears to flash rainbow colors when it’s low in the sky)

:jupiter23:

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" Matthew 24:3

It seeks a sign, but no sign will be given it, except the sign of Jonah. Just as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so will the Son of Man be to this generation. At the judgment the queen of the south will rise with the men of this generation and she will condemn them, because she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and there is something greater than Solomon here. At the judgment the men of Nineveh will arise with this generation and condemn it, because at the preaching of Jonah they repented, and there is something greater than Jonah here. (Luke 11:29-32)

Now lets look at the first sign of Jonah, Jesus was in the tomb for three days and three nights and then arose, this was at Easter.

Here is a lesson on the Fallen Dragon. Draco !

This is the constellation Draco . As you can see at every Easter, Draco Constellation dips lower and lower in the west as the Sun (Son of God ) rises . It appears to FALL so to speak as the dragon was cast down in Heaven.

:draco23:
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY
the "christs" are already here,wake up gods and goddesses that the Mayan version of the "bible" predicted with the 14,400 galactic alinement cycles(144,000 in todays "bible" version)..the Vatican/Romans added zero's and took zero's away from the ancient coda of scientific metaphors and put there names and places spin on it..here's the thread that will wake any god and goddess up from Caesar's 7th day rest calender> 777 is the number of god and i am god...
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg
PS i would rather not say what the bright object is..to get pass radiation everyone must detox with the god diet and manna/potassium iodide KI and load your thyroid with the manna and also use the other 3 keys in the thread continuously ...
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Everyone is noticing the Bright Star in the Eastern Night Sky. It is Jupiter !

Jupiter is known as the Kings Star.

And right now it is below Aries and almost in Cetus the whale constellation, which was known as Jonahs fish.

There is 88 drawn out constellations in the sky that tell the Biblical story. Everything from Argo the Ship (Noahs ark) to Ara the Altar and temple sacrifice.

Is Jupiter in Jonah a sign on the coming of Christ?

(Note, regarding Sirius, This bright star is south at dawn. Notice that a line from Orion’s Belt to points to Sirius.
Sirius appears to flash rainbow colors when it’s low in the sky)

:jupiter23:

As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. "Tell us," they said, "when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?" Matthew 24:3

It seeks a sign, but no sign will be given it, except the sign of Jonah. Just as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so will the Son of Man be to this generation. At the judgment the queen of the south will rise with the men of this generation and she will condemn them, because she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon, and there is something greater than Solomon here. At the judgment the men of Nineveh will arise with this generation and condemn it, because at the preaching of Jonah they repented, and there is something greater than Jonah here. (Luke 11:29-32)

Now lets look at the first sign of Jonah, Jesus was in the tomb for three days and three nights and then arose, this was at Easter.

Here is a lesson on the Fallen Dragon. Draco !

This is the constellation Draco . As you can see at every Easter, Draco Constellation dips lower and lower in the west as the Sun (Son of God ) rises . It appears to FALL so to speak as the dragon was cast down in Heaven.

:draco23:
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINAUGHTY

 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg


^^^THAT^^^
Is way out of date.
Jupiter is now in Taurus. Venus has now joined it in the East (in Gemini), and is even brighter.
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i know Apollos chart is old, i was commenting on the left hands words on the Jesus/Horus/Quetzalcoatl character of the scientific metaphor codebook passed down since ancient Egypt from culture to culture and each culture put their surface dogma spin on it....just look over Apollo as he causes others to look up instead of looking within ...he means well cause he has a job to do...astrologers fit people into boxes and molds and most people dont realize all the star patterns look different from other worlds and have different names,characters and patterns drawn..this planets constructs forbid everyone would want to leave this rock when there's a whole universe out there with life..my thyroid is almost loaded and 'looking' into the ark wont melt me..

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 08/30/2012 10:11 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Old thread - planets move around.


RIGHT NOW - 30th August 2012....

The VERY bright object to the east around 4am is Venus.
The less bright (but still brighter than the other stars) object higher up, is Jupiter.

I know for sure, that this is what these thngs are - I have been viewing them regularly with my own telescopes, when cloud-cover permits.

Venus has actually dimmed slightly from a few weeks ago (though still VERY bright)
It is currently a little past the point of greatest western elongation - looks like a tiny half-moon (Venus slowly goes through pahses like the Moon)
Jupiter is now heading towards the best time for viewing.
Rising earlier and earlier each night - It was just peeking above the trees opposite my house, a little after midnight last night - currently OK for viewing by 2am or so - it'll be at it's best (high enough to view, at a reasonable time of night), November through December and into the early part of 2013 (oppostion is Dec 3rd)
Fascinating to watch it's 4 biggest moons dance around the planet from one night to the next - and you can do this with decent binoculars, no telescope required.

edited to add...
Gah!, beat me to it Astro neener

Must type faster - LOL
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...the morning star is rising within many hearts this year...potassium iodide KI causes the pineal gland to decalcify and the soul dies and the spirit grows...you got to have a spirit to get off this rock..souls are recycled within the prison system..this will go over dogma souls heads but some will know what i mean...if you dont,please read this thread> 777 is the number of god and i am god..

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 08/30/2012 10:19 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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...potassium iodide KI causes the pineal gland to decalcify and the soul dies and the spirit grows...you got to have a spirit to get off this rock..souls are recycled within the prison system..this will go over dogma souls heads but some will know what i mean...if you dont,please read this thread> 777 is the number of god and i am god..
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Vacuous crap.
If you actually believe all that, please see a good shrink.
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It is NOT JUPITER. Jupiter is OVERHEAD (5:45 AM) and I clearly tracked Jupiter in with my 80mm refractor. This object everyone is talking about is NOT JUPITER. I looked at it through the 80mm refractor and it just looked bright, very very bright. But it is not a planet. It is much MUCH larger in the optics than Jupiter but has no distinct shape in the scope. It is just bright. But Jupiter was nearly directly overhead which I confirmed in the scope, (I've seen Jupiter through the scope a million times and know what it looks like, with the 80 I see two distinct divisions in Jupiter, plus 5 moons). This thing is something else. It is NOT JUPITER. I can confirm that.whatever:
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What is this guy talking about?
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...potassium iodide KI causes the pineal gland to decalcify and the soul dies and the spirit grows...you got to have a spirit to get off this rock..souls are recycled within the prison system..this will go over dogma souls heads but some will know what i mean...if you dont,please read this thread> 777 is the number of god and i am god..
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Vacuous crap.
If you actually believe all that, please see a good shrink.
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...please read the thread, then you wont tell me its crap..you might even thank me for the intell,many have already noticed the difference in their lifes from following the instructions as old as civilization..

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 08/30/2012 10:33 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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...please read the thread, then you wont tell me its crap..
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Souls and spirits? - by definition, it's garbage.

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...please read the thread, then you wont tell me its crap..
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

Souls and spirits? - by definition, it's garbage.

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...stay bound to the earth if you wish ,some of us are loosed from it...and read the rest of the previous post,many are awaking,its too bad you choose to stay asleep..but its everyone's choice whether to stay asleep or be changed in the twinkling of an eye as the 3rd eye twinkles open..and most wonder what the symbolism of a very very bright star is...we who are awake know what the very very bright star symbolism is..the outside world is symbolism to our inside world of ourselfs...the kingdom of god is within..did everyone miss the Katrina/Issac symbolism of KI and 7 years or 7 the number of god?<this thread didnt >777 is the number of god and i am god..

Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 08/30/2012 10:55 AM
How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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I'm definitely not an Astronomer but some people here should just hang it up, If you read this thread it's embarrassing. 4 to 5 different identifications and about the same amount of locations observed. This is why we need to understand that human minds and eyes are ALL DIFFERENT. The window view of humans even from the same vantage point results in different descriptions. Hence, why everyone's reality is personal and can't be compared. Hence, why humans argue constantly. This thread is a perfect example of why we all will never agree on much.
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There are no planets. It's the jewish freemasons playing tricks on you. After thousands of years of their pranks you're still fallin for it. Geeez you know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but wow you take the cake for being dumb.
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There are no planets. It's the jewish freemasons playing tricks on you. After thousands of years of their pranks you're still fallin for it. Geeez you know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but wow you take the cake for being dumb.
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shhhhhhhhhhh,most aren't ready for that yet...let me get them awake with the 777 thread before you break their squareheads with that hammer,roflmgao>rolling on floor laughing my goddessgod ass off....most dont see in the 6 days of creation in genesis ,planets and the moon are not mentioned..shhhhhhhhhh..lmgao..the lesser light is also the sun from after the longest sunlight day of summer to winter equinox the suns light becomes lesser,then it becomes the greater light after winter equinox until summer equinox...uh I'm not going to say anything about those stars not being mentioned either in genesis creation 6 days except the sun is only mentioned and people read into the moon and stars when all the descriptions are about the greater light and lesser light of the sun..lol..shhhhhhhhhhhhh,lol

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How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries...
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Re: the big, bright object in the eastern sky that everyone is seeing is not a planet....
OP if I stand at 100+ yards from you can you tell me by using the unaided eye how far away I am to the foot?

By saying it so close you're telling me you can judge distance with accuracy that would exceed a foot at 100+ yards, think about it at a million+ mile distance you can tell me how far away an object is with no reference to it's size?

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