Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! | |
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| Astromut (OP) Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 922113 10/03/2011 03:45 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Here's the summary video showing the comparison between viewing the moon from an altitude-azimuth perspective (analogous to watching it with your own eyes), and viewing the moon from a polar aligned perspective. The effect of field rotation is clear and dramatic over just an hour of time, and that field rotation is absent from the polar aligned footage recorded tonight: The moon is not "tilting," what people have been seeing and reporting is just normal field rotation. ![]() |
| Fabian10 User ID: 2533212 10/03/2011 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Here's the summary video showing the comparison between viewing the moon from an altitude-azimuth perspective (analogous to watching it with your own eyes), and viewing the moon from a polar aligned perspective. The effect of field rotation is clear and dramatic over just an hour of time, and that field rotation is absent from the polar aligned footage recorded tonight: Quoting: Astromut The moon is not "tilting," what people have been seeing and reporting is just normal field rotation. As always, your work is amazing Thank you Astromut I only hope that this thread serve for Educational purposes... More educations means less "tards".. and a world with less "tards" is always better... (side note: i know that "tards" is not a word) Life isn't short.It's the longest thing anybody ever does |
| Astromut (OP) Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 922113 10/03/2011 09:40 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Here's the astrometric solution showing that the moon was right where it was supposed to be. First I took a frame of the moon from the video right as I disengaged the drive system at 10:29:00 eastern time. I then determined where the center of the moon should was based on the curvature of the moon's limb. In this particular image (having expanded the canvas size to 1100x960) the center was at 528x500: [link to i319.photobucket.com] I then took the frame immediately after re-engaging the drive system at 10:38:45 eastern time and put it in the same position. Since 585 seconds had passed between drive disengagement and drive re-engagement, we would expect the stars to progress through the field of view by 586.60 arcseconds (a sidereal day is shorter than a solar day). Given that the moon's coordinates at drive disengagement should have been 17h 41m 53.91s, -23d 05' 33.1", the previously determined center point of the moon should now correspond to the following coordinates: 17h 51m 40.51s -23d 05' 33.1" Overlaying the Palomar Sky Survey image corresponding to those coordinates centered on the 528x500 point corresponding to the previous position of the moon's center point finds a match with the stars from the video at the moment the drives were re-engaged 585 seconds after disengagement: [link to i319.photobucket.com] In other words, the stars that were present at that point reveal that the moon was right where it should have been relative to the stars. In summary, the moon was right where it should have been in the sky to within the resolution of the telescope (in this configuration, 2.24 arcseconds per pixel). ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1351486 10/03/2011 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Here's the astrometric solution showing that the moon was right where it was supposed to be. Quoting: Astromut First I took a frame of the moon from the video right as I disengaged the drive system at 10:29:00 eastern time. I then determined where the center of the moon should was based on the curvature of the moon's limb. In this particular image (having expanded the canvas size to 1100x960) the center was at 528x500: [link to i319.photobucket.com] I then took the frame immediately after re-engaging the drive system at 10:38:45 eastern time and put it in the same position. Since 585 seconds had passed between drive disengagement and drive re-engagement, we would expect the stars to progress through the field of view by 586.60 arcseconds (a sidereal day is shorter than a solar day). Given that the moon's coordinates at drive disengagement should have been 17h 41m 53.91s, -23d 05' 33.1", the previously determined center point of the moon should now correspond to the following coordinates: 17h 51m 40.51s -23d 05' 33.1" Overlaying the Palomar Sky Survey image corresponding to those coordinates centered on the 528x500 point corresponding to the previous position of the moon's center point finds a match with the stars from the video at the moment the drives were re-engaged 585 seconds after disengagement: [link to i319.photobucket.com] In other words, the stars that were present at that point reveal that the moon was right where it should have been relative to the stars. In summary, the moon was right where it should have been in the sky to within the resolution of the telescope (in this configuration, 2.24 arcseconds per pixel). cool story bro...nah, I am sure all that means something, to somebody(j/k, even I get the gist of it) -although, you do tend to make me feel like an idiot at times... In time, I too shall be well versed in all(well lets just say many)things astronomically related...thanks for renewing my interest...never really lost it, but definitely set it on the back burner and forgot... |
| Astromut (OP) Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 922113 10/04/2011 09:11 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Automated astrometry confirmed the measurements I performed last night by hand: [link to flickr.com] As you can see for yourself, the coordinates for where the moon's center point had been in the image were 17h 51m 40s, -23d 05' 33" right on the money: [link to i319.photobucket.com] ![]() |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2699889 10/05/2011 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! This is all scientifically valid and impressive - Cheers Astromut! Looks like you have no competition in this field now that ace hoaxer and spam supremo Gridkeeper/John Lennard Walson has bowed down to the tsunami of mockery he deservedly received on here, and else where. Thread: John Lenard Walson Videos World Exclusive - Level Up to a whole new level of space UFO footage.. Thread: What happened to John Lenard Walson? Thread: IMPORTANT NEWS PLEASE READ WHAT JOHN LENARD WALSON HAS HAD HAPPEN TO HIM HIS SPACE FOOTAGE TAKEN FROM HIM WITH OUT GETTING PAID. Keep up the good work Astromut. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1925572 11/20/2012 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! It's simply a matter of where you are on earth and where the moon is in the sky when it sets as to what its apparent orientation will be. Quoting: Astromut Here's the live stream (it's still broad daylight out here, so please pardon the blueness of the sky): [link to www.ustream.tv] Excellent. Thanks as usual for calm, rational thinking. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28129468 11/20/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! It's simply a matter of where you are on earth and where the moon is in the sky when it sets as to what its apparent orientation will be. Quoting: Astromut Here's the live stream (it's still broad daylight out here, so please pardon the blueness of the sky): [link to www.ustream.tv] Excellent. Thanks as usual for calm, rational thinking. Great timing! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28147299 11/20/2012 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Same shit different day. A couple little threads lately and their all running scared. Is this going to do it for you...? I still have my doubts. I mean come on already whats really going on here...? Time will tell all in the end now won't it. |
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| Wolverine User ID: 16344097 11/20/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Come see live video of our closest celestial neighbor, the moon! Right now the telescope is an altitude-azimuth configuration, so if you watch carefully you'll notice the moon appears to "rotate" or "tilt" over time. This is due to the phenomenon of field rotation, which is normal from any perspective that is not aligned with the earth's axis of rotation. Your head resting on your shoulders is basically a kind of altitude-azimuth "mount." Quoting: Astromut Later this evening I will interrupt the broadcast, polar align the telescope, and then put it back on the moon. At that point you will notice that the moon no longer appears to "rotate" or "tilt" over time, thus proving that the reason the crescent moon sometimes looks "horizontal" when it sets is due to field rotation. It's simply a matter of where you are on earth and where the moon is in the sky when it sets as to what its apparent orientation will be. Here's the live stream (it's still broad daylight out here, so please pardon the blueness of the sky): [link to www.ustream.tv] Any signs of wormwood up there ??? “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” Marcus Tullius Cicero "You must submit to supreme suffering in order to discover the completion of joy." - John "Calvin" Rambo |
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| DVCMCM User ID: 35887442 03/10/2013 09:19 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Come see live video of our closest celestial neighbor, the moon! Right now the telescope is an altitude-azimuth configuration, so if you watch carefully you'll notice the moon appears to "rotate" or "tilt" over time. This is due to the phenomenon of field rotation, which is normal from any perspective that is not aligned with the earth's axis of rotation. Your head resting on your shoulders is basically a kind of altitude-azimuth "mount." Quoting: Astromut Later this evening I will interrupt the broadcast, polar align the telescope, and then put it back on the moon. At that point you will notice that the moon no longer appears to "rotate" or "tilt" over time, thus proving that the reason the crescent moon sometimes looks "horizontal" when it sets is due to field rotation. It's simply a matter of where you are on earth and where the moon is in the sky when it sets as to what its apparent orientation will be. Here's the live stream (it's still broad daylight out here, so please pardon the blueness of the sky): [link to www.ustream.tv] That's only your shilling pathetic bullshit bot job again. Normally the moon don't have to rotate itself several degrees per hour at all from the earth view. And just because it happens from late 2007 only (with minor frequency), it does not mean that you are allowed to spred nonsense like that with your ridiculous 'field rotation'. * Last Edited by DVCMCM on 03/10/2013 04:55 PM Just Sayin... look @ this: Thread: Upside down moon is really a alien mothership. Thread: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~ Thread: ???? Anyone notice the UPSIDE DOWN MOON last night ????? Thread: With which foot did N. Armstrong first step onto the moon his right or his left? Thread: Crepuscular Light Duration Has Changed Thread: Venus and Jupiter Conjuntion Rates Disinfo |
| Halcyon Dayz, FCD Contrarian's Contrarian User ID: 31033756 03/10/2013 05:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Normally the moon don't have to rotate itself several degrees per hour at all from the earth view. Quoting: DVCMCM You have asserted this several dozen times now. I'm sure any decade now you'll start presenting evidence for it. Hatred is a cancer upon the world. It rots the mind and blackens the heart. Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans. |
| Dr. Astro (OP) Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 4211721 03/14/2013 12:21 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! That's only your shilling pathetic bullshit bot job again. Normally the moon don't have to rotate itself several degrees per hour at all from the earth view. Quoting: DVCMCM Yes, it is quite normal. Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon And just because it happens from late 2007 only (with minor frequency), Quoting: DuckyWrong. it does not mean that you are allowed to spred nonsense like that with your ridiculous 'field rotation'. Quoting: DuckyIt's not nonsense, it's the truth. Thread: Why is the moon tilted upwars now instead of side to side? Show where the calculations are wrong. They work, the orientation of the moon is normal and expected given its position in the sky. ![]() |
| DVCMCM User ID: 36198272 03/14/2013 06:01 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! ![]() Just Sayin... look @ this: Thread: Upside down moon is really a alien mothership. Thread: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~ Thread: ???? Anyone notice the UPSIDE DOWN MOON last night ????? Thread: With which foot did N. Armstrong first step onto the moon his right or his left? Thread: Crepuscular Light Duration Has Changed Thread: Venus and Jupiter Conjuntion Rates Disinfo |
| Dr. Astro (OP) Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 4211721 03/14/2013 06:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Glad you agree (I don't think you understand what that phrase means in english). Last Edited by Dr. Astro on 03/14/2013 06:08 PM ![]() |
| DVCMCM User ID: 36290802 03/16/2013 03:24 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! ![]() Just Sayin... look @ this: Thread: Upside down moon is really a alien mothership. Thread: ~ MOON TILT 90 DEGREES IN 8 HOURS-? ~ Thread: ???? Anyone notice the UPSIDE DOWN MOON last night ????? Thread: With which foot did N. Armstrong first step onto the moon his right or his left? Thread: Crepuscular Light Duration Has Changed Thread: Venus and Jupiter Conjuntion Rates Disinfo |
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| SnakeBite TheGreatWhite User ID: 33142471 05/15/2013 03:34 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Same shit different day. A couple little threads lately and their all running scared. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28147299 Is this going to do it for you...? I still have my doubts. I mean come on already whats really going on here...? Time will tell all in the end now won't it. What is going on is that you and i are moving through space and time in some strange display of energy. you will eventually "die" and noone will care as will I. End of story. DO you need help understanding what i have just said? 'MANwhoTYPESwithoutSPACES' |
| dave j User ID: 34692672 05/15/2013 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Thread: Daytime Moon Projection How to stop "Lie"ing to yourself's . What do you See? [/youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] Stop posting links to a "moon" this is just a Projection. Stop Being a Liar to yourself Astroslut |
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| #Geomagnetic_Storm# "Official SunTard" User ID: 36140692 05/15/2013 04:23 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! School book filled Lie loving Fing cowards.. You whores LOVE lies..thus you Whores WHORE for NASA and the Liars in government for free..because your Cheap WHORES Prove that he is lying. Because you can't. Your too in denial.I don't understand what you"re trying to prove here? It looks like a normal moon to me. Projection my ass. So is my video of the moon a projection also? Last Edited by #Geomagnetic_Storm# on 05/15/2013 04:23 AM ![]() |
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| Dr. Astro (OP) Not to be confused with Phil Plait User ID: 1524705 05/16/2013 03:45 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!! Thread: Daytime Moon Projection How to stop "Lie"ing to yourself's . What do you See? Quoting: dave j 34692672 [/youtube] [link to www.youtube.com] Stop posting links to a "moon" this is just a Projection. Stop Being a Liar to yourself Astroslut ![]() Not too bright, are you Dave? I'm not lying pal, in fact the moon looks just like it should. And yes, you can see it during the day too. You can see how full it should look and its altitude and azimuth relative to the sun in the latest version of my spreadsheet. [link to dropcanvas.com] ![]() |