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Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!!

 
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Here's the summary video showing the comparison between viewing the moon from an altitude-azimuth perspective (analogous to watching it with your own eyes), and viewing the moon from a polar aligned perspective. The effect of field rotation is clear and dramatic over just an hour of time, and that field rotation is absent from the polar aligned footage recorded tonight:



The moon is not "tilting," what people have been seeing and reporting is just normal field rotation.
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Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!!
Here's the summary video showing the comparison between viewing the moon from an altitude-azimuth perspective (analogous to watching it with your own eyes), and viewing the moon from a polar aligned perspective. The effect of field rotation is clear and dramatic over just an hour of time, and that field rotation is absent from the polar aligned footage recorded tonight:



The moon is not "tilting," what people have been seeing and reporting is just normal field rotation.
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As always, your work is amazing

Thank you Astromut

I only hope that this thread serve for Educational purposes...

More educations means less "tards".. and a world with less "tards" is always better...

(side note: i know that "tards" is not a word)
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Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!!
Here's the astrometric solution showing that the moon was right where it was supposed to be.

First I took a frame of the moon from the video right as I disengaged the drive system at 10:29:00 eastern time. I then determined where the center of the moon should was based on the curvature of the moon's limb. In this particular image (having expanded the canvas size to 1100x960) the center was at 528x500:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
I then took the frame immediately after re-engaging the drive system at 10:38:45 eastern time and put it in the same position. Since 585 seconds had passed between drive disengagement and drive re-engagement, we would expect the stars to progress through the field of view by 586.60 arcseconds (a sidereal day is shorter than a solar day). Given that the moon's coordinates at drive disengagement should have been 17h 41m 53.91s, -23d 05' 33.1", the previously determined center point of the moon should now correspond to the following coordinates:
17h 51m 40.51s -23d 05' 33.1"
Overlaying the Palomar Sky Survey image corresponding to those coordinates centered on the 528x500 point corresponding to the previous position of the moon's center point finds a match with the stars from the video at the moment the drives were re-engaged 585 seconds after disengagement:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
In other words, the stars that were present at that point reveal that the moon was right where it should have been relative to the stars. In summary, the moon was right where it should have been in the sky to within the resolution of the telescope (in this configuration, 2.24 arcseconds per pixel).
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Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!!
Here's the astrometric solution showing that the moon was right where it was supposed to be.

First I took a frame of the moon from the video right as I disengaged the drive system at 10:29:00 eastern time. I then determined where the center of the moon should was based on the curvature of the moon's limb. In this particular image (having expanded the canvas size to 1100x960) the center was at 528x500:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
I then took the frame immediately after re-engaging the drive system at 10:38:45 eastern time and put it in the same position. Since 585 seconds had passed between drive disengagement and drive re-engagement, we would expect the stars to progress through the field of view by 586.60 arcseconds (a sidereal day is shorter than a solar day). Given that the moon's coordinates at drive disengagement should have been 17h 41m 53.91s, -23d 05' 33.1", the previously determined center point of the moon should now correspond to the following coordinates:
17h 51m 40.51s -23d 05' 33.1"
Overlaying the Palomar Sky Survey image corresponding to those coordinates centered on the 528x500 point corresponding to the previous position of the moon's center point finds a match with the stars from the video at the moment the drives were re-engaged 585 seconds after disengagement:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
In other words, the stars that were present at that point reveal that the moon was right where it should have been relative to the stars. In summary, the moon was right where it should have been in the sky to within the resolution of the telescope (in this configuration, 2.24 arcseconds per pixel).
 Quoting: Astromut


cool story bro...nah, I am sure all that means something, to somebody(j/k, even I get the gist of it)peace

-although, you do tend to make me feel like an idiot at times...hidinglmao

In time, I too shall be well versed in all(well lets just say many)things astronomically related...thanks for renewing my interest...never really lost it, but definitely set it on the back burner and forgot...1dunno1
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Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!!
Automated astrometry confirmed the measurements I performed last night by hand:
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As you can see for yourself, the coordinates for where the moon's center point had been in the image were 17h 51m 40s, -23d 05' 33" right on the money:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
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This is all scientifically valid and impressive - Cheers Astromut!

Looks like you have no competition in this field now that ace hoaxer and spam supremo Gridkeeper/John Lennard Walson has bowed down to the tsunami of mockery he deservedly received on here, and else where.

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Keep up the good work Astromut.
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Excellent! Thank you AstroMutt. You have been missed my friend.
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The OP must be an imposter!


The real Astromut left this site never to return months ago!




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Look at the date of the posts
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Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!!
It's simply a matter of where you are on earth and where the moon is in the sky when it sets as to what its apparent orientation will be.

Here's the live stream (it's still broad daylight out here, so please pardon the blueness of the sky):
[link to www.ustream.tv]
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Excellent. Thanks as usual for calm, rational thinking.
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It's simply a matter of where you are on earth and where the moon is in the sky when it sets as to what its apparent orientation will be.

Here's the live stream (it's still broad daylight out here, so please pardon the blueness of the sky):
[link to www.ustream.tv]
 Quoting: Astromut


Excellent. Thanks as usual for calm, rational thinking.
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Great timing!
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This is pretty good an explanation for that old smiley face moon thingy we keep seeing. But do you have anything for that second shadow blte mark that keeps showing up? HHMMMMM!!!
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Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Same shit different day. A couple little threads lately and their all running scared.

Is this going to do it for you...? I still have my doubts. I mean come on already whats really going on here...? Time will tell all in the end now won't it.
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Come see live video of our closest celestial neighbor, the moon! Right now the telescope is an altitude-azimuth configuration, so if you watch carefully you'll notice the moon appears to "rotate" or "tilt" over time. This is due to the phenomenon of field rotation, which is normal from any perspective that is not aligned with the earth's axis of rotation. Your head resting on your shoulders is basically a kind of altitude-azimuth "mount."

Later this evening I will interrupt the broadcast, polar align the telescope, and then put it back on the moon. At that point you will notice that the moon no longer appears to "rotate" or "tilt" over time, thus proving that the reason the crescent moon sometimes looks "horizontal" when it sets is due to field rotation. It's simply a matter of where you are on earth and where the moon is in the sky when it sets as to what its apparent orientation will be.

Here's the live stream (it's still broad daylight out here, so please pardon the blueness of the sky):
[link to www.ustream.tv]
 Quoting: Astromut


Any signs of wormwood up there ???
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that is not the moon, it's uranus!
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Re: Live video of the moon showing field rotation and the moon's exact position in the sky! 10-2-11 Summary on page 4!!
Come see live video of our closest celestial neighbor, the moon! Right now the telescope is an altitude-azimuth configuration, so if you watch carefully you'll notice the moon appears to "rotate" or "tilt" over time. This is due to the phenomenon of field rotation, which is normal from any perspective that is not aligned with the earth's axis of rotation. Your head resting on your shoulders is basically a kind of altitude-azimuth "mount."

Later this evening I will interrupt the broadcast, polar align the telescope, and then put it back on the moon. At that point you will notice that the moon no longer appears to "rotate" or "tilt" over time, thus proving that the reason the crescent moon sometimes looks "horizontal" when it sets is due to field rotation. It's simply a matter of where you are on earth and where the moon is in the sky when it sets as to what its apparent orientation will be.

Here's the live stream (it's still broad daylight out here, so please pardon the blueness of the sky):
[link to www.ustream.tv]
 Quoting: Astromut


That's only your shilling pathetic bullshit bot job again. Normally the moon don't have to rotate itself several degrees per hour at all from the earth view.

And just because it happens from late 2007 only (with minor frequency), it does not mean that you are allowed to spred nonsense like that with your ridiculous 'field rotation'.


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Normally the moon don't have to rotate itself several degrees per hour at all from the earth view.
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You have asserted this several dozen times now.

I'm sure any decade now you'll start presenting evidence for it.

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That's only your shilling pathetic bullshit bot job again. Normally the moon don't have to rotate itself several degrees per hour at all from the earth view.
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Yes, it is quite normal.
Thread: Calculating the Position and Orientation of the Moon
And just because it happens from late 2007 only (with minor frequency),
 Quoting: Ducky

Wrong.

it does not mean that you are allowed to spred nonsense like that with your ridiculous 'field rotation'.
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It's not nonsense, it's the truth.

Thread: Why is the moon tilted upwars now instead of side to side?
Show where the calculations are wrong. They work, the orientation of the moon is normal and expected given its position in the sky.
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Glad you agree (I don't think you understand what that phrase means in english).

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AWESOME view... Thanks Astro!!!!
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AWESOME view... Thanks Astro!!!!
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nonsense
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Ducky, you're the only idiot here who thinks my webcast was fake.
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Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Same shit different day. A couple little threads lately and their all running scared.

Is this going to do it for you...? I still have my doubts. I mean come on already whats really going on here...? Time will tell all in the end now won't it.
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What is going on is that you and i are moving through space and time in some strange display of energy. you will eventually "die" and noone will care as will I. End of story. DO you need help understanding what i have just said?
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Thread: Daytime Moon Projection How to stop "Lie"ing to yourself's . What do you See?
[/youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]

Stop posting links to a "moon" this is just a Projection. Stop Being a Liar to yourself Astroslut
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School book filled Lie loving Fing cowards.. You whores LOVE lies..thus you Whores WHORE for NASA and the Liars in government for free..because your Cheap WHORES
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School book filled Lie loving Fing cowards.. You whores LOVE lies..thus you Whores WHORE for NASA and the Liars in government for free..because your Cheap WHORES
 Quoting: dave j 34692672


Prove that he is lying. Because you can't. Your too in denial.I don't understand what you"re trying to prove here? It looks like a normal moon to me. Projection my ass. So is my video of the moon a projection also?









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AWESOME view... Thanks Astro!!!!
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:nonsense:
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Dude. You're seriously the biggest fucking moron on GLP. And that's saying something.
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Thread: Daytime Moon Projection How to stop "Lie"ing to yourself's . What do you See?
[/youtube] [link to www.youtube.com]

Stop posting links to a "moon" this is just a Projection. Stop Being a Liar to yourself Astroslut
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moonday

Not too bright, are you Dave? I'm not lying pal, in fact the moon looks just like it should. And yes, you can see it during the day too. You can see how full it should look and its altitude and azimuth relative to the sun in the latest version of my spreadsheet.
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