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HEADS UP! Oh shit, this sounds like Ebola to me........ | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1421382  United States10/03/2011 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: ayr phorce yuan It seems to me that there has been a concerted effort to play down Ebola due to panic spreading, so, is this EBOLA? 12 Now this will be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth. 13 It will come about in that day that a great panic from the LORD will fall on them; and they will seize one another’s hand, and the hand of one will be lifted against the hand of another Zechariah 14:12  |
ayr phorce yuan (OP) User ID: 2565908  United Kingdom10/03/2011 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is also this, a virus found a few years ago that acts like Ebolavirus, and was found in the Southern end of Africa as well: Quoting: Alisaria [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Sure, I just wonder if these 'new' viruses are infact Ebola itself, thx for your input btw. :) Well, there's the thing though. They don't seem to have many qualms with telling us when it actually is Ebola. When that one girl died of hemorrhagic fever on May 6 2001, they just called it an unidentified hemorrhagic fever...however, a few weeks later, it was actually reported that the girl did indeed die of Ebolavirus. They even told us it was the Sudan strain. This case you showed us today may come back in a couple weeks to be an Ebolavirus (EBOV). It seems that whenever there is even a whisper of EBOV in an African city, they go on an all-out campaign to reduce collateral damage. It's really sad but at the same time informational, but a missionary back in 2007 was in the city of Bundibugyo when an ebola oubreak occured. He has a blog about it from the beginning to the end. You should browse it and see for yourself how local infrastructure tries it's best with the locals to stave off the spread of the disease: [link to paradoxuganda.blogspot.com] Ebola isn't the end all-be all hemorrhagic virus. There are plenty out there just as scary, like the Marburg virus. Yes, they are both filoviruses, but they are distinctly different from each other. Also, there are EBOV out there that don't cause any symptoms in humans, like the Reston strain, that tends to only kill Asian monkeys (doesn't even phase the African ones). All I'm saying is that I don't think it would do anyone any good to conceal it, especially when they're already disclosing how virulent and deadly it is. Ebola or not, people have been warned around there, and need to take necessary measures. Thanks a million, good poster, Good Karma coming your way! GLP alert level 2; "Go get a Hard Hat:. GLP alert level 1; "Put the fucking Hat on:. |
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| LakersGirl777 User ID: 2565589 United States10/03/2011 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: ayr phorce yuan It seems to me that there has been a concerted effort to play down Ebola due to panic spreading, so, is this EBOLA? 12 Now this will be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth. 13 It will come about in that day that a great panic from the LORD will fall on them; and they will seize one another’s hand, and the hand of one will be lifted against the hand of another Zechariah 14:12 THE SCRIPTURE YOU ARE QUOTING IN IN ZECHARIAH.......SEE ONE MUST READ FURTHER BEFORE AND AND AFTER A QUOTED SCRIPTURE nIN THE LIVING BREATHING WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD.....HOWEVER THIS SCRIPTURE IS SPECIFICALLY SPEAKING OF "DEPRESSION" NUCLEAR" WAR!!!!!!!........ EBOLA DOES NOT CAUSE YOUR EYES TO BE CONSUMED IN THEIR SOCKETS WHILE YOU'D STANDING UPON YOUR FEET! ! GOD IS SPEAKING OF ALL THOSE IN THE GOG MAGOG WAR WHO COME AGAINST ISRAEL AND GOD SAYS HE WILL PUT HOOKS IN THEIR JAWS AND TURN THEM AROUND AND HE GOES ON TO SPEAK ABOUT HOW HE WILL LEAVE 1 MAN FROM EACH TRIBE THAT HAS COME AGAINST HIS BELOVED ISRAEL TO RETURN TO HIS LAND TO TELL WHAT THE THE MIGHTY ONE JESUS HAS DONE TO PROTECT HER SUPERNATURALLY, E3KK PO |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2394226 United Kingdom10/03/2011 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2534251 yep, from bush meat probably. if they had suspected it though there would have been no hospital, policy is to keep the sick in their huts and once dead torch the whole thing, body, bleed-out and dwelling. I had Ebola Zaire but defeated it with two paracetamol and an early night. I do not partake of monkey face stew or rhino cock soup so was not as deeply affected. Lol, good for you. Indeed, the only way to contain it, napalm the area and surrounding areas from the air lol. Nuke it from space. It's the only way to be sure. "Team America F**K YEAH" Thought that was from Aliens? |
| ayr phorce yuan (OP) User ID: 2565908 United Kingdom10/03/2011 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ayr phorce yuan Lol, good for you. Indeed, the only way to contain it, napalm the area and surrounding areas from the air lol. Nuke it from space. It's the only way to be sure. "Team America F**K YEAH" Thought that was from Aliens? Lol. GLP alert level 2; "Go get a Hard Hat:. GLP alert level 1; "Put the fucking Hat on:. |
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| Alisaria User ID: 1347080 United States10/03/2011 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is also this, a virus found a few years ago that acts like Ebolavirus, and was found in the Southern end of Africa as well: Quoting: Alisaria [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Sure, I just wonder if these 'new' viruses are infact Ebola itself, thx for your input btw. :) Well, there's the thing though. They don't seem to have many qualms with telling us when it actually is Ebola. When that one girl died of hemorrhagic fever on May 6 2001, they just called it an unidentified hemorrhagic fever...however, a few weeks later, it was actually reported that the girl did indeed die of Ebolavirus. They even told us it was the Sudan strain. This case you showed us today may come back in a couple weeks to be an Ebolavirus (EBOV). It seems that whenever there is even a whisper of EBOV in an African city, they go on an all-out campaign to reduce collateral damage. It's really sad but at the same time informational, but a missionary back in 2007 was in the city of Bundibugyo when an ebola oubreak occured. He has a blog about it from the beginning to the end. You should browse it and see for yourself how local infrastructure tries it's best with the locals to stave off the spread of the disease: [link to paradoxuganda.blogspot.com] Ebola isn't the end all-be all hemorrhagic virus. There are plenty out there just as scary, like the Marburg virus. Yes, they are both filoviruses, but they are distinctly different from each other. Also, there are EBOV out there that don't cause any symptoms in humans, like the Reston strain, that tends to only kill Asian monkeys (doesn't even phase the African ones). All I'm saying is that I don't think it would do anyone any good to conceal it, especially when they're already disclosing how virulent and deadly it is. Ebola or not, people have been warned around there, and need to take necessary measures. Thanks a million, good poster, Good Karma coming your way! Thank you very much! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1544232  Canada10/03/2011 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: ayr phorce yuan It seems to me that there has been a concerted effort to play down Ebola due to panic spreading, so, is this EBOLA? 12 Now this will be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem; their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, and their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongue will rot in their mouth. 13 It will come about in that day that a great panic from the LORD will fall on them; and they will seize one another’s hand, and the hand of one will be lifted against the hand of another Zechariah 14:12 The peoples who have gone to war against Jerusalem are the delusional Khazar Ashkenazi jewish people who have emigrated there from Europe, North America and other locations. Too bad for them I suppose. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2404068 United States10/03/2011 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry for the walls of text (I hope someone is reading them). Ebola has been a fascination with me ever since a teacher in middle school made us watch a documentary on Ebola and Marburg. It even helped me complete my BS in Biology (proposition for using the asymptomatic Ebola Reston to mount an Immune response against the more deadly strains). Quoting: Alisaria It really is an interesting subject... People are reading it. It is interesting. You are very informative. |
| Treyfish User ID: 1261829 United States10/03/2011 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congo Fever Not Cause of 'Mysterious' Deaths Denver Kisting 30 September 2011 THE three Katutura residents who died in the past week did not suffer from a haemorrhagic fever such as the dreaded Ebola, Congo Fever or Rift Valley Fever. Dr Jack Vries, the chairperson of the National Health Emergency Management Committee in the Ministry of Health and Social Services, yesterday confirmed that the deaths were being investigated... Shakungwa apparently also complained of headache and a stiff neck. The families are now demanding answers from the authorities. Answers about the cause of death in these cases are expected today. It is suspected that the deceased may have suffered some kind of poisoning [link to allafrica.com] |
| feather User ID: 1324851 10/03/2011 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ebola outbreaks are common. Even in america there are occasional outbreaks due to the monkey trade. Ive been really interested in it since reading the book 'hot zone' as a teenager. Terrifying How fast the virus can mutate and spread. short but sweet |
| Treyfish User ID: 1261829 United States10/03/2011 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ‘Mysterious deaths’ also not poisoning By: DENVER KISTING THE two Katutura residents who died last week – allegedly due to a mysterious bleeding disease – died not of poisoning. On Friday, Dr Jack Vries of the Ministry of Health and Social Services said one patient probably died of liver failure while the other is suspected to have died of heart failure. The conclusive post-mortem results will be announced today, he said. On Thursday, he ruled out haemorrhagic fever as the cause of the deaths. Residents of the Hakahana area in Katutura last week claimed that a number of people were bleeding to death. Vries said rumours that a third person had also died last week were found to be untrue... According to him, the one patient died in the Katutura State Hospital while the other one died in the Roman Catholic Hospital. [link to www.namibian.com.na] Last Edited by Treyfish on 10/03/2011 06:10 PM |
| Alisaria User ID: 1347080 United States10/03/2011 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ebola? a level 4 morphing filo-virus? burns itself out? are you crazy? Why is it when people hear "virus" they think it morphs like nothing else. It's a non-segmented genome. It's had relatively few variations in it's known history. [link to virus.stanford.edu] Scroll to the bottom of this page, and you'll be able to see just how many variants there have been recorded from 1989 to 1996 (Bundibugyo strain from 2007). To date, I believe there has been only one strain added in the 15 years to present. Compare this to the bird flu phylogenetic tree ( [link to www.medscape.com] ). And this is only based on a few SEGMENTS of the RNA of this specific sub-species of the influenza virus. Yeah, ebola's pretty stable. The segmentation of a virus allows it to kinda "move around" its genome. It's why scientists can only guess what strains they should use in the influenza vaccines. It's also why I don't get the influenza vaccine: too many risks associated with an approximate prevention... |
| Alisaria User ID: 1347080 United States10/03/2011 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ebola outbreaks are common. Even in america there are occasional outbreaks due to the monkey trade. Ive been really interested in it since reading the book 'hot zone' as a teenager. Terrifying How fast the virus can mutate and spread. Quoting: feather I would love to see your source. The Hot Zone, while informative, is a work of dramatized fiction based on fact, including some actual facts. For example, not all victims of Ebola bleed out every orifice. However, the ones that do bleed are recorded to be more likely to die. Check this out: [link to www.cdc.gov] Every case of Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever since it's discovery, up to the most recent confirmed Ebola-caused death of the little girl this May. The only "outbreaks" of Ebolavirus in humans occurred with the Reston strain, an Asian version of Ebola that doesn't even cause symptoms in humans and African primates. Exposures were due to contact with infected Green Monkeys, I believe. No "outbreaks" in the western world, only accidents in labs. And I hope you read my previous post about the wonderful stability of this horrible virus. It doesn't mutate very fast...it's remained fairly constant for the past 22 years. Last Edited by Alisaria on 10/03/2011 06:35 PM |
| Alisaria User ID: 1347080 United States10/03/2011 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congo Fever Not Cause of 'Mysterious' Deaths Quoting: Treyfish Denver Kisting 30 September 2011 THE three Katutura residents who died in the past week did not suffer from a haemorrhagic fever such as the dreaded Ebola, Congo Fever or Rift Valley Fever. Dr Jack Vries, the chairperson of the National Health Emergency Management Committee in the Ministry of Health and Social Services, yesterday confirmed that the deaths were being investigated... Shakungwa apparently also complained of headache and a stiff neck. The families are now demanding answers from the authorities. Answers about the cause of death in these cases are expected today. It is suspected that the deceased may have suffered some kind of poisoning [link to allafrica.com] 03.10.2011 Quoting: Treyfish ‘Mysterious deaths’ also not poisoning By: DENVER KISTING THE two Katutura residents who died last week – allegedly due to a mysterious bleeding disease – died not of poisoning. On Friday, Dr Jack Vries of the Ministry of Health and Social Services said one patient probably died of liver failure while the other is suspected to have died of heart failure. The conclusive post-mortem results will be announced today, he said. On Thursday, he ruled out haemorrhagic fever as the cause of the deaths. Residents of the Hakahana area in Katutura last week claimed that a number of people were bleeding to death. Vries said rumours that a third person had also died last week were found to be untrue... According to him, the one patient died in the Katutura State Hospital while the other one died in the Roman Catholic Hospital. [link to www.namibian.com.na] Please keep us posted. I really hope it isn't Ebola for the families' sakes. I was also reading that these individuals were shack dwellers... could this have something to do with malnutrition in conjunction with an infection if hemorrhagic fever is completely ruled out? |
| Treyfish User ID: 1261829 United States10/03/2011 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ebola virus entry requires the cholesterol transporter Niemann–Pick C1 Received09 December 2010Accepted30 June 2011Published online24 August 2011 Infections by the Ebola and Marburg filoviruses cause a rapidly fatal haemorrhagic fever in humans for which no approved antivirals are available1. Filovirus entry is mediated by the viral spike glycoprotein (GP), which attaches viral particles to the cell surface, delivers them to endosomes and catalyses fusion between viral and endosomal membranes2. Additional host factors in the endosomal compartment are probably required for viral membrane fusion; however, despite considerable efforts, these critical host factors have defied molecular identification3, 4, 5. Here we describe a genome-wide haploid genetic screen in human ... [link to www.nature.com] |
| ayr phorce yuan (OP) User ID: 2565908 United Kingdom10/04/2011 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ebola outbreaks are common. Even in america there are occasional outbreaks due to the monkey trade. Ive been really interested in it since reading the book 'hot zone' as a teenager. Terrifying How fast the virus can mutate and spread. Quoting: feather Hi, can you give a link to an outbreak in the States. GLP alert level 2; "Go get a Hard Hat:. GLP alert level 1; "Put the fucking Hat on:. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313198 United States10/04/2011 02:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: ayr phorce yuan It seems to me that there has been a concerted effort to play down Ebola due to panic spreading, so, is this EBOLA? yep, from bush meat probably. if they had suspected it though there would have been no hospital, policy is to keep the sick in their huts and once dead torch the whole thing, body, bleed-out and dwelling. I had Ebola Zaire but defeated it with two paracetamol and an early night. I do not partake of monkey face stew or rhino cock soup so was not as deeply affected. LMAO!!!!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1313198 United States10/04/2011 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: ayr phorce yuan It seems to me that there has been a concerted effort to play down Ebola due to panic spreading, so, is this EBOLA? yep, from bush meat probably. if they had suspected it though there would have been no hospital, policy is to keep the sick in their huts and once dead torch the whole thing, body, bleed-out and dwelling. I had Ebola Zaire but defeated it with two paracetamol and an early night. I do not partake of monkey face stew or rhino cock soup so was not as deeply affected. LMAO!!!!!!! I felt I should clairfy what made me laugh. It was this: "I do not partake of monkey face stew or rhino cock soup so was not as deeply affected." |
| ayr phorce yuan (OP) User ID: 2565908 United Kingdom10/04/2011 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to hisz.rsoe.hu] Quoting: ayr phorce yuan It seems to me that there has been a concerted effort to play down Ebola due to panic spreading, so, is this EBOLA? yep, from bush meat probably. if they had suspected it though there would have been no hospital, policy is to keep the sick in their huts and once dead torch the whole thing, body, bleed-out and dwelling. I had Ebola Zaire but defeated it with two paracetamol and an early night. I do not partake of monkey face stew or rhino cock soup so was not as deeply affected. LMAO!!!!!!! I felt I should clairfy what made me laugh. It was this: "I do not partake of monkey face stew or rhino cock soup so was not as deeply affected." Yeah, made me chuckle too. GLP alert level 2; "Go get a Hard Hat:. GLP alert level 1; "Put the fucking Hat on:. |
| Treyfish User ID: 1261829 United States10/05/2011 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Published Date 05-OCT-2011 Subject PRO/EDR> Undiagnosed hemorrhagic fever - Namibia (03): (Windhoek) NOT UNDIAGNOSED HEMORRHAGIC FEVER - NAMIBIA (03): (WINDHOEK) NOT [1] Date: Tue 4 Oct 2011 Source: The Namibian [edited] < [link to www.namibian.com.na] The 27-year-old woman who died in the Katutura State Hospital on 24 Sep 2011 had liver failure and not a communicable disease. Similarly, the 41-year-old man who died in the Roman Catholic Hospital on 27 Sep 2011 had no contagious disease and died of heart failure. This was confirmed at a meeting at the Ministry of Health and Social Services head office in Windhoek yesterday [3 Oct 2011]. The ministry, the World Health Organisation (WHO) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention launched an investigation last week [week of 26 Sep 2011] after it was reported that people were allegedly dying of a mysterious bleeding disease in the Hakahana area of Katutura. Yesterday [3 Oct 2011], it was also revealed that only 2 patients died and not 4 as had been reported earlier. It was further established that the 2 deaths were unrelated. When the female patient was admitted to hospital, she complained of headache and a body rash. She was also found to be bleeding. After admission, her condition deteriorated and she later died. The 2nd patient collapsed on arrival at hospital and later died. According to his death certificate, he died because of heart failure. Dr Jack Vries of the health ministry said the probe showed that there is no public health concern. On Friday [30 Sep 2011] already, Vries had said the patients did not die of poisoning. This came after he ruled out haemorrhagic fever -- like Crimean-Congo haemorrhagic fever, Ebola fever, or Rift Valley fever -- as the cause of the deaths on Thursday [29 Sep 2011]. [Byline: Denver Kisting] -- Communicated by: Ronan Kelly for FluTrackers.com [link to www.promedmail.org] |
