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Canned foods that have the longest storage shelf life

 
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Canned foods that have the longest storage shelf life
Does anyone know what kind of canned foods have the longest storage shelf life? I do not want to pay 2 grand for efoods direct. There has to be a cheaper solution. Hormel chilli lasts 3 years, but im looking for something along the lines of 10 years so I can buy 1000 cans every 10 years. Plz help.
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Spam.
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Twinkies.
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Emergency Essentials has both freeze dried and dehydrated with up to 25 yr shelf life. Alot of the survival websites have links to different storage food suppliers. Cosco also offers a couple of different sized supply kits.
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Costco has an online deal now, $799 for a one-year supply of long-lasting freeze-dried and dehydrated food. I got something similar from Sam's for about the same price. Duration is rated at around 15 to 30 years. (Probably better off counting on 10 years, which is your goal anyway.) You will need to have a supply of water to rehydrate, but if you don't have a supply of water then you're doomed anyway, right?

Here's a link to Costco's deal:

[link to www.costco.com]

I got the similar product from Sam's, and I added some canned foods, MREs (expensive but I know I like them from my time in the Army), some rice and some beans, plus a large garden and plenty of seeds.
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Try beprepared.com and waltonfeed.com
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Re: Canned foods that have the longest storage shelf life
Costco has an online deal now, $799 for a one-year supply of long-lasting freeze-dried and dehydrated food. I got something similar from Sam's for about the same price. Duration is rated at around 15 to 30 years. (Probably better off counting on 10 years, which is your goal anyway.) You will need to have a supply of water to rehydrate, but if you don't have a supply of water then you're doomed anyway, right?

Here's a link to Costco's deal:

[link to www.costco.com]

I got the similar product from Sam's, and I added some canned foods, MREs (expensive but I know I like them from my time in the Army), some rice and some beans, plus a large garden and plenty of seeds.
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Thank you so much man. Im deffinately going to try it out. $799 is a steal.
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[link to www.youtube.com]

great video on canned foods

pink salmon has longest shelf life.
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be careful what you buy... that costco crap is just that.

everyone is trying to capitalize on the nation's fear right now.

if you're going to buy long term storable food, do so from a well known manufacturer, i.e. mountain house, wise, etc.

if money is a concern do 5 gallon buckets (food grade) full of rice, beans, and dried veggies.

canned meats? spam, vienna sausages, ham, potted meat, sandwich spread, tuna, salmon.

check the expiration dates... but that doesn't mean they'll bed bad... it just might mean there will be some "settling" and the product won't be as appealing.

i've eaten tuna nearly 3 years past the expiration date with no ill affects.
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Doesn't have to be canned. White rice has a very long life (>15 yrs) if stored at constant low temp and low humidity. Any dry food (eg beans, wheat, pasta) should last a long time if stored as above.
Note that brown rice doesn't last anywhere near as long.
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Mountain house is great,but VERY costly.

If you want long term storage Honeville is great.The best customer service ever,5 dollar shipping on any size order,and great products. [link to honeyvillegrain.com]

Still honeyville cost more than what you can pick up at places like Sam's club or Gordons food service.Most would probably be shocked at the prices on number 10 cans of food.5lbs of green beans $3.00 ect....

99% of all canned goods have shelf lives of decades not years.The FDA has two separate expatriation date systems because of this.The EXPIRATION date is on items that would not be fit to eat after that period of time,and then there is the BEST BY date which is when it will TASTE best before that date.

You can easily eat a can of food that is 10 years past the BEST BY date and it will be perfectly fine.As long as the can is not damaged and there is no loss of interior contents such as water.If you open a can and the food is discolored or all the moisture is gone obviously do not eat it(same for swelled cans or leaking cans).

If it is past the EXPIRATION date on the can do not eat it.In canned goods this normally only applies to meats and products that contain meat.


Hope this helps.
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Mountain house is great,but VERY costly.

If you want long term storage Honeville is great.The best customer service ever,5 dollar shipping on any size order,and great products. [link to honeyvillegrain.com]

Still honeyville cost more than what you can pick up at places like Sam's club or Gordons food service.Most would probably be shocked at the prices on number 10 cans of food.5lbs of green beans $3.00 ect....

99% of all canned goods have shelf lives of decades not years.The FDA has two separate expatriation date systems because of this.The EXPIRATION date is on items that would not be fit to eat after that period of time,and then there is the BEST BY date which is when it will TASTE best before that date.

You can easily eat a can of food that is 10 years past the BEST BY date and it will be perfectly fine.As long as the can is not damaged and there is no loss of interior contents such as water.If you open a can and the food is discolored or all the moisture is gone obviously do not eat it(same for swelled cans or leaking cans).

If it is past the EXPIRATION date on the can do not eat it.In canned goods this normally only applies to meats and products that contain meat.


Hope this helps.
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Link to the FDA explaining it.I like to back up what I say with fact.

[link to www.fsis.usda.gov]
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Hormel will be worth gold soon.
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My family had a can of Spanish Rice they used to pass around as a gag gift every year. It finally blew up but it had to be 30 years old. Can't remember the brand sorry.
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canned tuna & salmon both have pretty long shelf lives
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Canned fruit fails in 5 years... cans bulge and explode. Canned tomatoes also fail as the acid in them eats at the seam in the can and causes leakage in 5 or six years. Best to get tomato products in glass jars if you can. The fruits were not nescessarily acid, for some reason peaches and pears in metal cans bulge and explode. I also had failure of sweet potatoes in a can.

Never had green beans, corn, greens , peas, carrots to fail in metal cans...

I dont believe that canned meats have failed either... some of this stuff has been in the can for 12 years... of course you might not be able to eat it!

dried Rice keeps for 20 years or more, dried beans for 8 years (trouble with beans is they get so dry you have trouble hydrating them before they spoil although thermos cooking would help)
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dried beans for 8 years (trouble with beans is they get so dry you have trouble hydrating them before they spoil although thermos cooking would help)
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Boil in twice as much water as is normally used and add a small amount of sodium bicarb.
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Costco has an online deal now, $799 for a one-year supply of long-lasting freeze-dried and dehydrated food. I got something similar from Sam's for about the same price. Duration is rated at around 15 to 30 years. (Probably better off counting on 10 years, which is your goal anyway.) You will need to have a supply of water to rehydrate, but if you don't have a supply of water then you're doomed anyway, right?

Here's a link to Costco's deal:

[link to www.costco.com]

I got the similar product from Sam's, and I added some canned foods, MREs (expensive but I know I like them from my time in the Army), some rice and some beans, plus a large garden and plenty of seeds.
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You can make it for a fraction of the price. Buy Boxes of instant rice and put it in a moisture proof container. Buy a dehydrator, food sealer and make your own packages for a fraction of the price !

I own at least three dehydrators, I love them and make jerky all the time. Of course jerkey will be eaten, who can resist ? You can dehydrate fruits and veggies.
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Re: Canned foods that have the longest storage shelf life
be careful what you buy... that costco crap is just that.

everyone is trying to capitalize on the nation's fear right now.

if you're going to buy long term storable food, do so from a well known manufacturer, i.e. mountain house, wise, etc.

if money is a concern do 5 gallon buckets (food grade) full of rice, beans, and dried veggies.

canned meats? spam, vienna sausages, ham, potted meat, sandwich spread, tuna, salmon.

check the expiration dates... but that doesn't mean they'll bed bad... it just might mean there will be some "settling" and the product won't be as appealing.

i've eaten tuna nearly 3 years past the expiration date with no ill affects.
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Yes, just compile your own collection. Those survivalist packages are very marked up.
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Also it should be mentioned on the freeze dried pouches to check the total of calories per day they provide per individual. Is it enough cals or are you getting shafted?
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Re: Canned foods that have the longest storage shelf life
be careful what you buy... that costco crap is just that.

everyone is trying to capitalize on the nation's fear right now.

if you're going to buy long term storable food, do so from a well known manufacturer, i.e. mountain house, wise, etc.

if money is a concern do 5 gallon buckets (food grade) full of rice, beans, and dried veggies.

canned meats? spam, vienna sausages, ham, potted meat, sandwich spread, tuna, salmon.

check the expiration dates... but that doesn't mean they'll bed bad... it just might mean there will be some "settling" and the product won't be as appealing.

i've eaten tuna nearly 3 years past the expiration date with no ill affects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1463082


Yes, just compile your own collection. Those survivalist packages are very marked up.
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Be aware that pacific bluefin tuna has been found to have unacceptable levels of radioactive cesium from fukushima. This has a half life of 30 years or so, so it's not the best. Of course, in a true SHTF situation, staying alive is more important.
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most of you will shrivle up and die eating this processes, aluminum filled, sodium laced garbage.

WATER is always the most basic function of living, all this canned survival food and dehydrated food will just leech your body of water.

You need to stock up on heirloom seeds and stock up on agricultural knowledge.

Learn about wild edible herbs, fruits and vegetables.

The world is an abundant food source and we forgot how to use it to heal ourselves naturally.

Remember the collapse of humanity is about getting back to the OLD WAYS the TRUE WAYS of living. Not holding on to what once was and no longer will be.

This is a good thing to be going through for humanity.

We will all see we are better in the end.
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most of you will die.
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That's what it all boils down too.
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great thread! thanks for the info here!
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Re: Canned foods that have the longest storage shelf life
Longest lasting canned goods:
Pink salmon(longest lasting)
canned hams
corned beef hash
spam
Vienna sausages
sardines
red salmon
crab meat
tuna

Not a canned good, but honey will last forever.
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dehydrated or freeze dried. no canned food will last that long and still be guaranteed to be safe OR taste good (gets pretty tinny after a while).


Home jarred is the best.


You want it to last ten years you are going to have to pay for it.
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Spam. I remember reading, not that long ago, that somebody (US Army I think) finaly got rid of the last cans from the SPAM stockpile left over from WWII. The shit lasts 40 or 50 years if you don't crack the seal.
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Expiration dates on tinned (metal canned) foods is about 2 years on average. However if kept in a cool, dry and dark place they can last on average 6 years with a regular tin lasting a decade with the food inside still good.

The real problem is that they spray a coating of plastic insides of tinned food. That degrades over time and leeches toxins into the food.

The best method of persevering canned food is to can it yourself in jars. Pressure steamed jars will last decades without plastic from the lid leeching into the foods. The lids have a plastic liner on the inside along with a rubberized seal around the rim. As long as the food isn't touching those, the food is safe.

You also can tell readily if their is spoilage in the jar, the lids have a button that pops up after the vacuum seal is broken. Since rot/decay releases gasses, the pressure inside the jar goes up and causes the button to pop-up.

While food is edible for a decade, the real problem is that vitamins, proteins and essential fats break down over time. It doesn't matter if you deep freeze, freeze dry, can/jar... It is a chemical process that is a matter of time.

Thus foods stored will in 5 years lose about half of their nutritional content for most of the vitamins and will have protein break down of about 10-20%.

While MRE's and other long stored foods are 'decent' long term for their nutritional value, they are not as good for you as fresh foods, and traditionally preserved foods of 2 years or less.

Ultimately the 2 year expiration date is tied into the nutritional value of the contents of the container.
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