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My Weight Loss Secret - TRH/T3/T4 Hormonal Tweaking

 
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I was on metformin for about three months for type 2 diabetes and then he took me off...I lost over 28 pounds and then gained it all back. started taking fenugreek since it is supposed to be the alternative for metformin and it has done nothing...so I thinkI will try this vit. c thing with the iodine!
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I just had to make it known to the OP. That my wife currently is on the recommended dosage. So far, she has lost some weight in very short amount of time. She did not change her food intake at all, and continues her regime of daily recommended dosage.

To people that are going to try this, it does work but you have to stick with it.
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QUESTION; can you explain what the effect of combining the Vit. C and Iodine protocol with the ACV regimen will have? please explain
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The Vinegar is going to cause the Liver to express in greater quantities the proteins (ACO/CPT-1) that catabolize fat, and prevent its accumulation, as well as inhibit appetite, and thirdly reverse any insulin intolerance. Mercola's study strongly correlated all obeisity was a insulin receptor intolerance relationship triggered by too many years of sugar spikes followed by the pancreas trying to rebalance with a massive flood of insulin.

Significant increases were observed in the expressions of genes for peroxisome-proliferator-activated receptor alpha (PPARalpha) and for fatty-acid-oxidation- and thermogenesis-related proteins: acetyl-CoA oxidase (ACO), carnitine palmitoyl transferase-1 (CPT-1), and uncoupling protein-2 (UCP-2), in the liver of the AcOH-treatment groups. - study.

The Iodine is going to futher increase metabolism, and the Vitamin C is going to instruct the thyroid to do so.

So all your doing is effectively combining protocols, and basically double gunning it. Word of warning though naturally is to always listen to your body. I have had friends who ended up sick from adding vinegar to their juice, their stomachs could not handle it. Although myself I have had no issues from all the time I have ingested it.
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I was on metformin for about three months for type 2 diabetes and then he took me off...I lost over 28 pounds and then gained it all back. started taking fenugreek since it is supposed to be the alternative for metformin and it has done nothing...so I thinkI will try this vit. c thing with the iodine!
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I was on metformin for about three months for type 2 diabetes and then he took me off...I lost over 28 pounds and then gained it all back. started taking fenugreek since it is supposed to be the alternative for metformin and it has done nothing...so I thinkI will try this vit. c thing with the iodine!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 790259


Well the cure for Diabetes is Eleotin fyi. For now until your eleotin comes in Vinegar is what I would take that will reverse insulin intolerance add I would add a little bit in my salads or mixed in my food. The second big natural treatment for Diabetes is Cinnamon, I would add lots to my porridge as a couple tsps a day, or in my yogurt. It will make your food taste acrid a bit, but it blends in perfectly in my protein drink even in larger quantities.


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I just had to make it known to the OP. That my wife currently is on the recommended dosage. So far, she has lost some weight in very short amount of time. She did not change her food intake at all, and continues her regime of daily recommended dosage.

To people that are going to try this, it does work but you have to stick with it.
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Awesome, that is very encouraging actually :) Thanks for the input.
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OP,
Thank you for such a great tread!
Do you have any info about RA (rheumatoid arthritis) & osteoarthritis? I have it in my hand’s joins. It is very painful. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
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what kind of vit-c are you taking and how much?
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I just had to make it known to the OP. That my wife currently is on the recommended dosage. So far, she has lost some weight in very short amount of time. She did not change her food intake at all, and continues her regime of daily recommended dosage.

To people that are going to try this, it does work but you have to stick with it.
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Thanks for sharing.
So far, how much weight has she lost, and how long has it taken her to do it?
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OP,
Thank you for such a great tread!
Do you have any info about RA (rheumatoid arthritis) & osteoarthritis? I have it in my hand’s joins. It is very painful. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
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One of that natural cures was to rub olive oil the affected area - in and in about 5 days you should see some significant reduction in pain/ swelling. Assuming you have little cartilage left I would recommend talking to Dr Deagle at Nutrimedical I think he has some advanced protocols to help it grow back.

Another secret trick I learnd of that works powerfully is to megadose fish oil, it was secretly advised to a co-worker of mine, and she noted the mental clarity on it was amazing as well as all the arthritus pain greatly subsided. I tried it - it worked!

I think they were taking about 30 capsules a day, which can be prohibitive if you do not have a inexpensive source, which points again at that good old cod liver oil :)
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what kind of vit-c are you taking and how much?
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I'm just taking standard bulk Vitamin C, however naturally one should look at the Rose Hip variants. There is supposed to be actually 7 types of Vitamin C, and only the plant based sources will provide all seven. I did a quick google query and not too much comes up - its a bit of a hidden subject
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OP,
Thank you for such a great tread!
Do you have any info about RA (rheumatoid arthritis) & osteoarthritis? I have it in my hand’s joins. It is very painful. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1560010


Another trick I wanted to mention is I know one guy who megadosed on Glucosamine Sulfate (like 30 pills a day) and did manage to see massive improvements and their joint pain was gone.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH

you are an answer to prayer.

I don't watch tv and breeze thru this forum for current news and health tips.
despite the trolls it's very up to date on current news.

your post has changed my life.

thank you.

I've been so chronically tired for so long w/ many symptoms. so much brain fog it's been hard to problem solve.

all the thyroid symtoms to the max.
severe depression over son I lost a few years ago. haven't been able to find the way out.

but when I read your post, I had hope.

woke up this morning took half my dose of armour thyroid, 2000 of vit c and one drop of atomidine in water.

within an hour, I was unpacking my boxes. I couldn't believe it.

I have the atomidine and water by my bed for the first thing tomorrow morning.

will share this info with others.

thank you
thank you
thank you...God bless you richly
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OP,
Thank you for such a great tread!
Do you have any info about RA (rheumatoid arthritis) & osteoarthritis? I have it in my hand’s joins. It is very painful. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1560010


Another trick I wanted to mention is I know one guy who megadosed on Glucosamine Sulfate (like 30 pills a day) and did manage to see massive improvements and their joint pain was gone.
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also magnesium gel applied topically helps
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this is what Ive been taking the last 3 days:

3 tsp Cinnamon grounded cheap kind
3 g Vit C
1500mcg LifeFlo Iodine with 3 drops = 150mcg so I take 30 drops
10,000-15,000 IU Vit D-3 (not everyday but every 2-3 days?)
B-Complex and Multi vitamin

I have a good amount of energy and feel hungry all the time. Currently I have a terrible headache so I will try the cilantro you recommended.
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this is what Ive been taking the last 3 days:

3 tsp Cinnamon grounded cheap kind
3 g Vit C
1500mcg LifeFlo Iodine with 3 drops = 150mcg so I take 30 drops
10,000-15,000 IU Vit D-3 (not everyday but every 2-3 days?)
B-Complex and Multi vitamin

I have a good amount of energy and feel hungry all the time. Currently I have a terrible headache so I will try the cilantro you recommended.
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Not sure how much I need but I ate quite a bit of cilantro.. ::rex:
also took two excederin and my head is still pounding..
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THANK YOU SO MUCH

you are an answer to prayer.

I don't watch tv and breeze thru this forum for current news and health tips.
despite the trolls it's very up to date on current news.

your post has changed my life.

thank you.

I've been so chronically tired for so long w/ many symptoms. so much brain fog it's been hard to problem solve.

all the thyroid symtoms to the max.
severe depression over son I lost a few years ago. haven't been able to find the way out.

but when I read your post, I had hope.

woke up this morning took half my dose of armour thyroid, 2000 of vit c and one drop of atomidine in water.

within an hour, I was unpacking my boxes. I couldn't believe it.

I have the atomidine and water by my bed for the first thing tomorrow morning.

will share this info with others.

thank you
thank you
thank you...God bless you richly
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Thanks share the word. An informed public is a empowered one.
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this is what Ive been taking the last 3 days:

3 tsp Cinnamon grounded cheap kind
3 g Vit C
1500mcg LifeFlo Iodine with 3 drops = 150mcg so I take 30 drops
10,000-15,000 IU Vit D-3 (not everyday but every 2-3 days?)
B-Complex and Multi vitamin

I have a good amount of energy and feel hungry all the time. Currently I have a terrible headache so I will try the cilantro you recommended.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3968520


Don't forget your body, you might not need that heavy of dosing, and if your getting pounding headaches something is out of balance.

"Detoxification Reactions
Iodine can cause a detoxification reaction in the body by facilitating the body’s release of the toxic halides fluoride and bromide. If the body’s detoxification pathways are overloaded when the toxic halides are being released, a detoxification reaction can be triggered. A detoxification reaction can take the form of fatigue, muscle aches, fever, diarrhea, and brain fog, skin rashes, etc.
Though a detoxification reaction to iodine usage is rare, it has happened. A detoxification reaction can be minimized with using nutritional support (vitamins and minerals), balancing the hormonal system, getting the body’s pH balanced, eating healthy foods, and other holistic treatments. This will be discussed more at the end of this article.
Iodism
Iodism occurs when the dose of iodine is too high and results in a metallic taste in the mouth, increased salivation, sneezing, headache, and acne. Also, sinus headache, especially headache in the frontal area, and a sense of fever may be present. Iodism occurs in a small minority of patients and is easily rectified by adjusting the dosage of iodine used."

[link to www.vrp.com]
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Woman LOST 70 lbs and BLOCKED DIABETES - Her Medication 50,000 ug iodine / day...

"Four weeks later during an office visit her glucometer was downloaded to my office computer, which showed her to have an average random blood sugar of 98. I praised the patient for her diligent efforts to control her diet and her good work at keeping her sugars under control with the insulin.

She then informed me that she had come off her insulin three weeks earlier and had not been taking any medications to lower her blood sugar. When asked what she felt the big change was, she felt that her diabetes was under better control due to the use of iodine.

Two years later and 70 pounds lighter this patient continues to have excellent glucose control on iodine 50 mg per day."

Full Article - [link to www.healthy-eating-politics.com]
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Well, I've been taking 3250 ug of Iodine and 3g of Vitamin C for 17 days now, and I haven't noticed much of anything.

My cravings persist, I'm eating the same amount, not losing any weight, I'm still losing roughly the same amount of hair, my nails are basically the same as well...

I've added 1000mcg of Chromium Picolinate to my supplements yesterday, so we'll see what happens there.

While I haven't noticed any benefits, I've also not had any side effects. No headaches, etc. I've simply felt the same.

I'm going to increase my dosage and see what happens, but I guess I'll have to add copper and probably magnesium to my list.

How much copper and magnesium should I take if I up my Iodine intake to say 5000 ug and 4 - 5 g of Vitamin C per day?


Thanks, OP! hf
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Well, I've been taking 3250 ug of Iodine and 3g of Vitamin C for 17 days now, and I haven't noticed much of anything.

My cravings persist, I'm eating the same amount, not losing any weight, I'm still losing roughly the same amount of hair, my nails are basically the same as well...

I've added 1000mcg of Chromium Picolinate to my supplements yesterday, so we'll see what happens there.

While I haven't noticed any benefits, I've also not had any side effects. No headaches, etc. I've simply felt the same.

I'm going to increase my dosage and see what happens, but I guess I'll have to add copper and probably magnesium to my list.

How much copper and magnesium should I take if I up my Iodine intake to say 5000 ug and 4 - 5 g of Vitamin C per day?


Thanks, OP! hf
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Every person is going to be different in the above case the women with diabetes was at 50,000 ug/day, and mentioned no ill effects from it. I would listen to my body and adjust my dosing for each individual.

Myself I don't follow strict regimes as to dosing - I shoot about a quarter dropper full about three times a day, and sometimes a full dropperr full before bed. However taking iodine before bed is crazee! I don't sleep, and urinate through the night. However I found by combining with 10mg of Melatonin I have some of the best sleeps I have had in years...

I just went and checked for myself and that is about 12,000 - 15,000 a day. However I find taking 12,000 at one shot makes me tired. In the above posting they mentioned it can be the effects of detoxification.

As per the magnesium - I eat tons of green leafy vegetables so do not consider at this time supplementation. When I have in the past I usually order a kilogram of powdered Magnesium Citrate from purebulk.com and just measured a level tsp into my food. Any more and you get diarrhea lol :)

Copper personally for myself I simply make sure I eat some offal organ at least once a month if it is presented. Some natriopaths choke at the thought.
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Amazing read, all aging, and most related diseases are linked to increasing insulin levels as we age. Insulin blocks DHEA, and breaks it down - which is considered the top anti-aging hormone in the world according to researchers at www.lef.org (type dhea into search box and read magazine articles)

Mercola did an amazing study on the damaging effects of insulin and insulin intolerance as we age.

[link to articles.mercola.com]
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I cant find any tropic Iodine at my stores in Washington, there is Kelp Iodine, Iodine from Alfalfa and Amotidine Iodine (water Soluble)
What do you think?
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I cant find any tropic Iodine at my stores in Washington, there is Kelp Iodine, Iodine from Alfalfa and Amotidine Iodine (water Soluble)
What do you think?
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A google query brings up little on Amotidine, I'm not familiar with it, Iodine from Alfalfa would work, but I think the vegtable sources of Iodine are atypically weak, what kind of mcg do you get per drop? - leaving the Kelp as the best source.
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check this stuff out
1 drop is 400mcg
[link to www.integratedhealth.com]
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I cant find any tropic Iodine at my stores in Washington, there is Kelp Iodine, Iodine from Alfalfa and Amotidine Iodine (water Soluble)
What do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2613281


A google query brings up little on Amotidine, I'm not familiar with it, Iodine from Alfalfa would work, but I think the vegtable sources of Iodine are atypically weak, what kind of mcg do you get per drop? - leaving the Kelp as the best source.
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Atomidine is what I just started taking 2 days ago.
[link to www.cayce.com]
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bump

I feel like this thread just saved my life!

pass the info on.
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I cant find any tropic Iodine at my stores in Washington, there is Kelp Iodine, Iodine from Alfalfa and Amotidine Iodine (water Soluble)
What do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2613281


A google query brings up little on Amotidine, I'm not familiar with it, Iodine from Alfalfa would work, but I think the vegtable sources of Iodine are atypically weak, what kind of mcg do you get per drop? - leaving the Kelp as the best source.
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Atomidine is what I just started taking 2 days ago.
[link to www.cayce.com]
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thanks,
Is that stuff working for you?
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Out of the Vit D, C, Cinnamon, Iodine which one helped my sinuses completely open for the first time without nasal inhalers? Im thinking its the Vit D but I havent taken it today because of the headache I took Vit C, Cinnamon and Iodine.. if it was how often should I take either 10 or 15mg of D-3?

Breathing deeper than I ever have, feeling better than I ever have. Other than the headache I had on the 2nd and 3rd day. I feel AWESOME!! Its 8pm normally in bed by ten and I feel like working out for the first time in my life.
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I cant find any tropic Iodine at my stores in Washington, there is Kelp Iodine, Iodine from Alfalfa and Amotidine Iodine (water Soluble)
What do you think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2613281


A google query brings up little on Amotidine, I'm not familiar with it, Iodine from Alfalfa would work, but I think the vegtable sources of Iodine are atypically weak, what kind of mcg do you get per drop? - leaving the Kelp as the best source.
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Atomidine is what I just started taking 2 days ago.
[link to www.cayce.com]
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Pretty interesting, it is in a saline solution, and claims it is nascent, at about 1000 ug / drop, and not intended for long term interal use.

It doesn't really make many claims other than it cleans out the urinary tract, and helps with high blood pressure.

All atomic iodines (nascent) have an electrical charge to them - however I don't see much information on that benefit other than a claim it is highly bioavailable (absorbed more easily by the body than molecular iodine)

Thanks for this link.
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Out of the Vit D, C, Cinnamon, Iodine which one helped my sinuses completely open for the first time without nasal inhalers? Im thinking its the Vit D but I havent taken it today because of the headache I took Vit C, Cinnamon and Iodine.. if it was how often should I take either 10 or 15mg of D-3?

Breathing deeper than I ever have, feeling better than I ever have. Other than the headache I had on the 2nd and 3rd day. I feel AWESOME!! Its 8pm normally in bed by ten and I feel like working out for the first time in my life.
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Good question!! I find none of them clear my sinuses, but vinegar does for me. Since I'm allergic to smoke and dust I'm never going to beat that allergen without training the immune system how to not react to it.

But my best guess is the cinnamon - it removes fungal and yeast infections which is a underlying cause of lots of asthma's - which possibly is helping you.

The Vitamin D will boost your immune system like crazy, and I find your core body temperature will come higher after taking a good dose of it.

As far as Vitamin D Dosing - if you go out in the sun one hour a day that is 10,000 IU of Vitamin D. If you study tropical belt countries the poorer nations have citizens that do this all day every day and have very low rates of disease.

Basically my point it I would do it every day if I wanted too.

Vitamin D is actually stockpiled in the body in the northern climates to get through the winters. Those with office jobs and fully clothed all the time are atypically deficient. Especially!! Anyone with dark skin is VERY deficient.

So their reserves are low it shows up in poor mood, depression, etc etc.

Myself I wait for it to go on sale and buy like 6 bottles of the 240's for about $6 bucks a bottle. I burn through the stuff like crazy but I don't take it every day, just when I feel I need too.

A nice feature is the Vitamin D/K combo some stores are selling. If you dig into Vitamin K its a stronger anti-oxidant than C, or E! And its being studied now as a potent anti-age prevention.

Anything that lowers insulin will equal a long healthy life - even the extreme of going to a CRON (Calorie Reduced Optimal Nutrition) the stick people all running around on 1400 calories a day because it will enable them to live for 150 years.

I'm not too sure about being hungry for another 110 years so..

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