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My Weight Loss Secret - TRH/T3/T4 Hormonal Tweaking

 
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OK, so I am researching trying to find a great iodine source...any suggestions to cut time?
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kelp or seaweed.
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Capsules? Liguid,? and truly good brands to recommend?
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I stick with Trophic, its potent, inexpensive, and common. If you want to get crazy you can take Lugols but I wouldn't - its pretty strong 1 drop is 40x RDA. I'm not a fan of the veggie based sourced iodine maybe its healthier but its so weak in that form.
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You are an Angel. Thank you for posting this. I have been fighting a low thyroid for many years now. I am going to do this and pray i start feeling better. It takes all i have to muster the energy to get through the day. My quality of life is nothing like it use to be at all. I pray my body reacts positive to this.
Thanks again.
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Thanks, hope it helps :)
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I am taking NOW brand Kelp capsules. I couldn't tell you how they are rated and haven't been taking them very long but I get a surge of energy about 30 minutes after taking them.


If anyone reading this can recommend a way to research brands of vitamins and supplements, I would appreciate that.
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I am taking NOW brand Kelp capsules. I couldn't tell you how they are rated and haven't been taking them very long but I get a surge of energy about 30 minutes after taking them.


If anyone reading this can recommend a way to research brands of vitamins and supplements, I would appreciate that.
 Quoting: Capsules? Liguid,? and truly good brands to recommend?


I was just reading the reviews on NOW brand. Seems a good source. Thanks.
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Thanks for posting this. I almost couldn't believe it when I read your post - talk about synchronicity!

I recently started a similar regimen hoping to jump start some weight loss and improve my health. Mostly I want to feel my best as often as possible. That's my main health goal.

I'm taking kelp supplements for the iodine - 650 micrograms twice a day. I also take a tablespoon of virgin coconut oil and a tablespooon of organic unfiltered apple cider vinegar in a glass of water. My energy is through the roof and I'm sleeping better at night. I've been doing this for only about a week and a half. I added these to my old regimen of magnesium oil, 5000 IUs of vitamin D daily, and my multivitamins.

I found once adding the kelp, coconut oil, and ACV that I was having flu-like symptoms off and on (a cleanse reaction?) which went away when I added some milk thistle and a good probiotic.

I took a base weight on 10/1 and have decided to give it a month before I follow up with the scale so as not to become unduly discouraged. My clothes fit better already so I believe it is working.
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Just a suggestion there are some indications there can be *high* variations of Iodine content in some strains of kelp, and one of the signs of Iodine toxicity is a running nose. Some studies have indicated between 50 - 45,000 ug/iodine per gram of kelp. 45,000 ug is getting really high I would not go past 10-20x the RDA or about 1500 -3000 ug/day. I also would never follow the RDA I feel it is anemically low. If your unsure of the iodine content in your kelp make sure you watch for toxicity symptions.

"Negative signs of iodine toxicity - taking too much, too fast, would include a metallic taste in the mouth no matter what is being eaten, acne, racing heart, jittery feeling, slight cough and slight watery nasal discharge (slightly drippy nose). Loss of appetite and too much weight loss may become a problem if hyperthyroid activity occurs. If any of these start to occur, simply stop taking the supplemental iodine source for a while. Try a reduced dose in a few weeks if your symptoms were minor and temporary. Do continue or start taking selenium if you are having hyperthyroid symptoms,, 200 micrograms per day is a typical recommendation for a dose, about 2-3 Brazil nuts."
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Thank-You so much OP for this informative thread! I'm going to add it to my favorites. There are alot of good suggestions here to try. I would also send you good karma if you were registered! Thanks again!

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Hi OP, great thread and info. What would you do if you were in you mid 50's and were already taking bioidentical hormones? I'm not sure of how much since I get it as a compound with whatever the doc ordered in it.
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I'm not familiar with Edgar Cayce's iodine, however historicallly it was used as a cure all in the 1800's prior to anti-biotics. People were successfully even treating malaria with a nascent formula of it in a very highly bioavailable recipe, I think Dr Deagle peddles it at his nutrimedical.com site. I'm happy to just keep taking any oral iodine that is clean and oral - I don't get too fancy in that regards.
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Are you referring to this?

Progressive Laboratories - Adreno-Trophic - 250 CAP

It is the only "Trophic" I can seem to find, and it's about $20 a bottle at the cheap places. If it is, how many caps per day do you take?
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OP does this work for either gender? If a man takes this, can it throw his hormones out of whack and make him start growing man boobs?
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Hi OP, great thread and info. What would you do if you were in you mid 50's and were already taking bioidentical hormones? I'm not sure of how much since I get it as a compound with whatever the doc ordered in it.
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Thats up to you, if you eat no kelp or seafood at all your probably iodine deficient, it is beneficial in any regard - if I was taking bioidentical hormones I would at least start with the RDA and maybe just take a lesser dosage than the 5-10x the RDA. I'd listen to how my body felt..

I would peradventure that the RDA is an extremely modest dosing for much of the nutrients and vitamins. A good example is Vitamin D. They recommend you only take 400 IU of vitamin D a day. Yet one hour of direct sun can produce 10,000 IU of the super beneficial seco-steroid. Yet if you study skin cancer rates in the tropical countries they are in fact very low - even though they oft times are exposed to very high sun rates, and their bodies produce large amounts of Vitamin in the skin. In fact the darkening skin is the bodies way of naturally rate limiting the amount of Vitamin D being produced.. The increased skin cancer rates were directly attributable to the increased sun tan lotion sales which had some pretty nasty stuff in it.

I learned to listen to by body - it will let me know if I have too much of something. Problem is we ignore it when it doesn't have enough! Vitamin D - will I personally took 15,000 IU this morning felt great! And it burns a cold out very very quickly!
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OP does this work for either gender? If a man takes this, can it throw his hormones out of whack and make him start growing man boobs?
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Don't worry about Gynecomastia or 'bitch tits' that is caused when a guy is taking the wrong steroids and forgets to take his estrogen blocker (sucks to be him lol!!)

The Thyroid shoud be universally driven by Iodine and TRH wether or not its sitting in a nice blonde or a your standard testosterone body builder.
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I'm not familiar with Edgar Cayce's iodine, however historicallly it was used as a cure all in the 1800's prior to anti-biotics. People were successfully even treating malaria with a nascent formula of it in a very highly bioavailable recipe, I think Dr Deagle peddles it at his nutrimedical.com site. I'm happy to just keep taking any oral iodine that is clean and oral - I don't get too fancy in that regards.
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Are you referring to this?

Progressive Laboratories - Adreno-Trophic - 250 CAP

It is the only "Trophic" I can seem to find, and it's about $20 a bottle at the cheap places. If it is, how many caps per day do you take?
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


Trophic Iodine $9 / bottle for the 50ml. Lasts a good long time

[link to www.nationalnutrition.ca]
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I'm not familiar with Edgar Cayce's iodine, however historicallly it was used as a cure all in the 1800's prior to anti-biotics. People were successfully even treating malaria with a nascent formula of it in a very highly bioavailable recipe, I think Dr Deagle peddles it at his nutrimedical.com site. I'm happy to just keep taking any oral iodine that is clean and oral - I don't get too fancy in that regards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2686577


Are you referring to this?

Progressive Laboratories - Adreno-Trophic - 250 CAP

It is the only "Trophic" I can seem to find, and it's about $20 a bottle at the cheap places. If it is, how many caps per day do you take?
 Quoting: Dr. Anomaly


Trophic Iodine $9 / bottle for the 50ml. Lasts a good long time

[link to www.nationalnutrition.ca]
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Danke! hf
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Wikipedia supports your advice

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

See Dietary intake

"...The thyroid gland needs no more than 70 micrograms /day to synthesize the requisite daily amounts of T4 and T3."
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Wikipedia supports your advice

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

See Dietary intake

"...The thyroid gland needs no more than 70 micrograms /day to synthesize the requisite daily amounts of T4 and T3."
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Thats a nice base line level at 70 ug and low imho. The RDA is twice that, and listening to my body I feel best on about 5-10x the RDA. I find at about 30-50x the RDA it just makes you sleepy. But I'm very physically active, and naturally I'm going to need more nutrients to drive my body than somebody who is a nintendo survivor.

There are a few people that cannot shut off their thryoids ability to load iodine, so it won't rate limit itself. Those people should use caution but their probably already rail skinny so their not worried about the weight loss.
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Wikipedia -

"Iodine-131 (in the chemical form of iodide) is a component of nuclear fallout and a particularly dangerous one owing to the thyroid gland's propensity to concentrate ingested iodine, where it is kept for periods longer than this isotope's radiological half-life of eight days. For this reason, if people are expected to be exposed to a significant amount of environmental radioactive iodine (iodine-131 in fallout), they may be instructed to take non-radioactive potassium iodide tablets. The typical adult dose is one 130 mg tablet per 24 hours, supplying 100 mg (100,000 micrograms) iodine, as iodide ion. (Note: typical daily dose of iodine to maintain normal health is of order 100 micrograms; see "Dietary Intake" below.) By ingesting this large amount of non-radioactive iodine, radioactive iodine uptake by the thyroid gland is minimized. See the main article above for more on this topic.[18]"

This is interesting so their basically telling people in the event of nuclear fallout to take 100,000 ug of Iodine (LARGE AMOUNT) and completely saturate the body with it so it won't take the radioactive Iodine-131 as it will be full of the good stuff.
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Thank you OP. I'm trying to put all this together in one place, let's call it a formula. So far I have this.

TRH/T3/T4
Trophic Iodine
Cinnamon 2 teaspoons
apple cider vinegar 1 tablespoon

I'm sure I probably missed a few things, I keep going over the thread, so if it's all in one "recipe" it helps. What else would you recommend taking on a daily basis.

Thanks again.
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Thanks for this OP, I would like to lose some weight - I eat healthy and exercise but it doesn't shift it, I would like to boost my metabolism for sure.
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Thank you OP. I'm trying to put all this together in one place, let's call it a formula. So far I have this.

TRH/T3/T4
Trophic Iodine
Cinnamon 2 teaspoons
apple cider vinegar 1 tablespoon

I'm sure I probably missed a few things, I keep going over the thread, so if it's all in one "recipe" it helps. What else would you recommend taking on a daily basis.

Thanks again.
 Quoting: Dee Lisch


You forgot your Vitamin C. It will increase TRH telling the thyroid to manufacture more T3/T4 and burn up the iodine :)

Here it is again.

Vitamin C - 2-4 grams a day (remember at these higher levels your going to experience copper depletion a rich source of copper is offal organs like liver, or possibly kelp. It is what causes increased TRH.

Iodine - 1500 ug / day which is about 10x the RDA. Trophic is about 250ug a drop so roughly 7-10 drops a day. Iodine causes increased T3/T4 production.

Cinnamon - great cleanse once a day with your porridge or yogurt. Super cognition enhancer and major intestinal cleanse.

Vinegar whenever - I find after about 5 days of drinking it in water you start to not want it anymore lol!
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OP NICE POST:

Question for you...
For guys who want to boost, or increase their testosterone levels what do you suggest.

Also Vit D, and the increase in serotonin, won't that decrease testosterone, since that's the problem with antidepressants, they boost serotonin and decrease sex drive, and testosterone?

Thanks
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OP What do you think of this vit pac?

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thanks OP

I got about 60 lbs of fat that needs to go

I will give it a go
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Awesome post, OP... I shall try it as well!
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GREAT GREAT Post OP, thank you:)

I think you are definitely onto something. In July I started taking Emerald Sea with iodine nutrients with Action Whey organic natural whey (heard about it on an alternative internet radio program) and 9lbs fell off within 2 months on my 115 pound frame, I did not change my diet at all. I am 42 years old.

I will say that I did the homeopathic HCG diet for 3 weeks in February and lost 13 pounds. I believe it may have really reset the metabolism. I cut out almost all bad carbs and I starting eating nuts in place of breads/pasta, etc. Unbelievable! I never wanted to believe that cutting bad carbs would keep the weight off, but, it definitely works for me.

God Bless you all and good luck:):hf:
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OP What do you think of this vit pac?

[link to www.jigsawhealth.com]
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That stuff is awesome, I didn't even know that you could market a product that suggests a serving size supplying well in excess of the Recommended Daily Allowance. There is some seriously good mix of everything in it in large quantities. The B12 is going to greatly increase red blood cell counts, they even have the RDA allowance of Iodine in it.

Have you ever taken it - how do you feel on it?
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GREAT GREAT Post OP, thank you:)

I think you are definitely onto something. In July I started taking Emerald Sea with iodine nutrients with Action Whey organic natural whey (heard about it on an alternative internet radio program) and 9lbs fell off within 2 months on my 115 pound frame, I did not change my diet at all. I am 42 years old.

I will say that I did the homeopathic HCG diet for 3 weeks in February and lost 13 pounds. I believe it may have really reset the metabolism. I cut out almost all bad carbs and I starting eating nuts in place of breads/pasta, etc. Unbelievable! I never wanted to believe that cutting bad carbs would keep the weight off, but, it definitely works for me.

God Bless you all and good luck:):hf:
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I checked out the HCG protocol myself. I am not a fan of the succussants (aka signature of HCG and a bottle of alcohol) - it may work but I think it is more of the power of the mind. HCG is the king of weight loss protocols to date as it resets the bodies set weight point allowing easy weight loss. However for it to work you must have real HCG, not the 8x 10x bottles of alcohol with nothing in it but the signature.

Many natriopathics would differ and it would warrat futher research.
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OP NICE POST:

Question for you...
For guys who want to boost, or increase their testosterone levels what do you suggest.

Also Vit D, and the increase in serotonin, won't that decrease testosterone, since that's the problem with antidepressants, they boost serotonin and decrease sex drive, and testosterone?

Thanks
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You can increase testosterone by 40% by simply doing German heavy lifts (full body weight lifting).

The second method that is powerful is to take Saw Pal Metto Extract it will block the Dihydro-Testosterone allowing real testosterone to get to the receptor site.

The other method that is great without resorting to the juice is the ZMA protocol - basically you ingest lots of Carrots for their Vitamin A, Zinc, and Magnesium. It really works.

If you want more go to the gym find the biggest guy in their get to know him, and ask him who his dealer is. They are *always* on the juice.
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OP NICE POST:

Question for you...
For guys who want to boost, or increase their testosterone levels what do you suggest.

Also Vit D, and the increase in serotonin, won't that decrease testosterone, since that's the problem with antidepressants, they boost serotonin and decrease sex drive, and testosterone?

Thanks
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I've never seen increased levels of serotonin depleting testosterone. However what is insteresting is many SSRI Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (Prozac, Luvox or whatever) actually bleach the brain, and the net effect is pretty much all your hormones are going to drop as the pineal gland and such will be less effective.

The same result will come from fluordation of your water table one doctor did a pile of research showing the calcification of the brain because of water fluoridation.

"It is now known - thanks to the meticulous research of Dr. Jennifer Luke from the University of Surrey in England - that the pineal gland is the primary target of fluoride accumulation within the body."

[link to www.fluoridealert.org]
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I'm going to order some, just because you like it...lol

Thanks


OP What do you think of this vit pac?

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That stuff is awesome, I didn't even know that you could market a product that suggests a serving size supplying well in excess of the Recommended Daily Allowance. There is some seriously good mix of everything in it in large quantities. The B12 is going to greatly increase red blood cell counts, they even have the RDA allowance of Iodine in it.

Have you ever taken it - how do you feel on it?
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Thanks OP



You can increase testosterone by 40% by simply doing German heavy lifts (full body weight lifting).

The second method that is powerful is to take Saw Pal Metto Extract it will block the Dihydro-Testosterone allowing real testosterone to get to the receptor site.

The other method that is great without resorting to the juice is the ZMA protocol - basically you ingest lots of Carrots for their Vitamin A, Zinc, and Magnesium. It really works.

If you want more go to the gym find the biggest guy in their get to know him, and ask him who his dealer is. They are *always* on the juice.

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