My Weight Loss Secret - TRH/T3/T4 Hormonal Tweaking

Listen people. I have no idea how true any of this is, but what he wrote that struck me was the part about chlorinated water. My hair was falling out at 24 and just by adding a water filter and not using conventional cleansers it's back. It made a profound difference in the health of my hair. The chlorine is bad news.

Ya, but HCG works excellent, and the side affect, is penis growth.

Our bodies can fluctuate as much as 5 lbs between morning and night depending on diet, water hydration etc. The best method is to weigh every morning and compare from morning to morning.

I spent some time investigating that protocol it DOES WORK - sorta.

Firstly if you look on the side of the HCG bottle it will say 3X, 4X, or whatever. That means there is NO HUMAN CHORIONIC GONADATROPHIN IN IT - NONE. It only has the SIGNATURE of the HCG.

The fact that all HCG takers are required to eat a 500 calorie a day diet and stick to it is why they loose so much weight, even though they paid about $60-80 for basically an ounce of alcohol.

Real HCG - aka the injections DO WORK. They reset the bodies weight point and make all the fat stores available for immediate consumption. If you can get REAL HCG in pill form as in a mg or whatever then it would work too, but to what level I would not know

HCG is the hormone found in a pregnant females urine - if you know any pregnant moms around you could just buy some of their pee as well lol!

Wow, OP, this is good information.

I have a question that I hope you could address.

Do you take the Iodine in the AM, PM, or together with the Vitamin C?

The reason why I ask is because I started reading up on this, and it seems that Iodine converts to Iodide when exposed to Vitamin C.

How would Iodide compare to Iodine in the body? Does it have the same metabolic effect?

I just tried this the other day, dropping 1500mcg iodine into a solution of water with 2 grams dissolved vitamin C. (should I drink this separately?)

I noticed an immediate euphoric "high" (like a runners high) and energy/clear thinking.

Also, last night I really wasn't interested in drinking alcohol (I've been drinking at least a pint of vodka every night for the last 5 years)

Vitamin C reduces alcohol cravings because it helps your body produce mood-boosting neurotransmitters."

Read more: [link to www.livestrong.com]

Thank you for posting that and being a voice of reason on this thread.

I have Graves' Disease, and I will be the first to say that hyperthyroidism is no joke. Sure, I am stick thin and can eat all I want without gaining weight, but that's where the party ends.

A rapid, irregular heartbeat, heightened blood pressure, constant fatigue, goiter, eye problems, and skin problems are all part of the package as well.

I'm not talking about minor skin problems either. My skin on my palms, feet, and ankles is replacing itself at an accelerated rate, faster than I can scrape it off with a pumice stone.

Here is a picture (NOT for the squeamish) of a person with similar skin problems due to Graves' Disease:

[link to www.nejm.org]

Then there is also the danger of potentially experiencing a "thyroid storm", which can be lethal.

Folks, I really do not recommend playing around with your thyroid. The weight loss associated with hyperthyroidism is not worth it. If you want to lose weight, just eat a healthy diet and exercise.

OP, I think you've offered a lot of excellent info on this thread about supplements. Most your info is very sound. The only part I don't agree with your thyroid tweaking via iodine overload approach to weight loss.

Point well taken. Its up to the individual what their comfortable with, amazingly the treatment for Grave's Disease is radioactive iodine - which binds to the thyroid and kills a good portion of it limiting its ability to overproduce T3/T4.

Why don't you give Dr Deagle a call he is one of the top doctors in the world, he might really have something beneficial for what your going through - as it is clearly in the league of specialized treatment.

God Bless I do believe that the immune system overreaction can be modulated and cured, and normal thyroid function can be established.

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Myself I have increased my dosage lately to taking about 1500 ug in the morning and another 4000 in the afternoon and another 1500 in the evening. I do realize that is a larger dosage than I even recommend in my own protocol, but I have little negative side effects - so I am comfortable with it. Taking it directly with Vitamin C is up to you, if you experience any side effects then don't do it. It can mix in the glass or mix in your stomach if their taken 5 mins apart - I don't see a giant difference.

I experienced about a three day high when I first started taking Iodine - and I do know that I was pretty deficient in the mineral. My Red's in my vision became Super- Red, etc, and my color blindness went away.

Another interesting factor is that you become much more talkative, and will also experience some increased cognitive function..

Iodine Deficiency Affects Cognitive Function (Health Studies Journal)

[link to www.nhiondemand.com]

Iodide is the beneficial form of iodine, yet the information on its potent health benefits versus Iodine is scarce. I do know that Nutrimedical has done entire shows on their 'super-nascent iodine' and why its better but naturally they are selling their product so of course it's going to be super-duper.

A little pep-rally article about iodide

[link to tahomaclinicblog.com]

I find taking it before bed is crazy as it keeps you up all night. So I tried something new - I added a small amount of Melatonin 10mg with it, and had some of the best deepest sleeps I have ever experienced. I'm still researching this.

Thank you very much for the information. I have recorded the name and phone number of the doctor in my address book and will give him a call.

For now, I'm holding out on having my thyroid destroyed via radiation or surgery and going the long term medication route instead, taking Tapazole until it clears up, which can work in some cases.

Since this is a natural supplement thread, I will state that I researched herbal remedies for hyperthyroidism and bugleweed kept coming up. Bugleweed is on the table if the meds don't do the job, because I will not have my thyroid destroyed until I have tried every other alternative.

OP,
How long were your treadmill sessions?
How many days a week?

Thanks for the info.

I think it was like 25 mins 3/4 times a week - that was about it.

OPS UPDATE: POWER OF VINEGAR

In the summer of 2010, I began adding healthy doses of vinegar to my water, and this was as a result of some hear-say, and anecdotal evidence that it could loose weight. Now before anyone laughs I worked at a site where one of my co-workers was heavy into the drugs. He would start drinking vinegar like it was going out of style right before a piss test, and he would always pass! But what was really interesting is he noted that the weight would fly off his body :)

So through the summer I went out bought a gallon of 'Mother' which is basically $35/gallon natural vinegar with the enzymes and proceeded to drink in all my water. I shed weight had more energy, and was down to 195. Over time drinking it in my water became more and more of a repulsive endeavour until I eventually completely stopped.

Yesterday I decided to re-explore the health benefits of vinegar, and started adding copious amounts to my salads. Shockingly one can mask a very large amount into the salad, and today I continued to add it to anything that I could get it into - Ravioli...

I noticed dramatic differences in the following :

- Decreased appetite (feel full much easier).
- Increased water consumption - which actually helps shed weight.
- LARGE increases in energy, I had one of the best workouts I have had in probably two years.
- And I can already feel the weight shedding as I eating much less.

My consumption level currently is about 1/2 a pop can a day.

Naturally people are going to be repulsed by this protocol, but I am nothing less than estatic about it, as I know I heading straight for a 'strippers' body and will have it in short order :)

I am still taking my iodine as well and my vitamin C, but I cannot stress (for me) that vinegar has benefited me greatly.

The other thing it did is I am allergic to dust and smoke, and work industrial. I am almost *always* plugged up! It completely clears the sinuses, the more you breath is directly linked to weight loss as well..

For anyone else wanting to try this, maybe start at a smaller level and work up, but it works!

Yah I have listened to him for YEARS. I owe vast portions of my knowledge to this guy because he shares it freely.

If you want to listen to his shows they are on the GCN network for free download

[link to www.no] link for you/programs/nutrimedical/archives.php

Sorry thats www.no link for you Click Listen, Select Nutrimedical Report, then archives. All the shows are there for free. I think he has a conspiracy hour and then a couple hours on medical stuff, natriopathic etc.

Never mind for whatever reason GLP doesn't like that link, just google Genesis Communications Network

I believe in natural cures and I have been taking kelp and all sorts of other herbs and vitamins, coconut oil and Braggs vinegar for 2 years now. I have lost 30 lbs and cleared up some chronic health issues, including asthma....


But, has any one googled Dr. Deagle? He must be 300 lbs and looks like a heart attack waiting to happen!

Love Bragg's Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with 'The Mother'...
I want to add it to the Vitamin C/Iodine protocol, but need help.

I have trouble getting it down (2 Tablespoons in an 8 oz glass of water burns my throat and chest).

Besides putting it in salad, any other ideas for masking the harshness?

You can lose weight just by taking Vitamin C? I don't believe this. Has anyone heard of Zerona by the way? What is Zerona?

[link to www.beforevertrim.com]

I watched the Dr. Oz clip at the above link...Wow! This looks great.

Yep, if you read the posting I had the exact same problem, but much great success by mixing it right into my food as in salads, ravioli etc.

I know! Why can the guy be such a health advocate but weigh so much! I never understood that one. Some days he sounds like he's trying to talk through his fat stuffed throat.

No the protocol is about 5-10x the RDA in Iodine, and Vitamin C with it. The Vitamin C causes an increase in Tyrotrophic Release Hormone, which signals the thyroid to increase produciton of T3/T4. The iodine is a feedstock, as the thyroid cannot make T3/T4 without the Iodine.

The vinegar as well is a very powerful weight loss method but it garners much less enthusiam as people cannot stand eating it.

Myself I lost lots of weight using both, and with exercise. Vinegar I find is more powerful if you can get the consumption up high enough as in about 1/2 can of pop of vinegar a day, your weight will literally fly off your body.

I take mine with grapefruit juice. It helps a lot! Try adding some honey to it.

R U Serious? Your taking Vinegar and Grapefruit juice together? Thats nuts but you say it works?

How Vinegar Makes you Loose Weight

"Acetic acid upregulates the expression of genes for fatty acid oxidation enzymes in liver to suppress body fat accumulation."

We investigated the effect of acetic acid (AcOH) on the prevention of obesity in high-fat-fed mice. The mice were intragastrically administrated with water or 0.3 or 1.5% AcOH for 6 weeks. AcOH administration inhibited the accumulation of body fat and hepatic lipids without changing food consumption or skeletal muscle weight. Significant increases were observed in the expressions of genes for peroxisome-proliferator-activated receptor alpha (PPARalpha) and for fatty-acid-oxidation- and thermogenesis-related proteins: acetyl-CoA oxidase (ACO), carnitine palmitoyl transferase-1 (CPT-1), and uncoupling protein-2 (UCP-2), in the liver of the AcOH-treatment groups. PPARalpha, ACO, CPT-1, and UCP-2 gene expressions were increased in vitro by acetate addition to HepG2 cells.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Additionally...

"Vinegar Improves Insulin Sensitivity to a High-Carbohydrate Meal in Subjects With Insulin Resistance or Type 2 Diabetes"

[link to care.diabetesjournals.org]



After reviewing this landmark study, Dr Mercola, on his web site Mercola.com commented on the insulin and weight loss connection explaining that insulin is the central part of the weight loss equation and the reason 200 million Americans are overweight is because they have impaired insulin receptor sensitivity.


He goes on to state that people with impaired insulin receptor sensitivity makes them hypersecrete insulin to compensate for this low receptor sensitivity and:

TRANSLATION : Vinegar is actually a one-three punch to loose weight. It increases insulin receptivity in the cells through the body, which equates to increases nutrient acceptance (aka your food goes farther even if you eat less, and also you get more energy). Mercolas Study - spiked insulin = increased weight. Spiked insulin comes from rich carbohydrate, rich sugar ingestions. Vinegar taken with the diet prevented these insulin spikes. Insulin spiking evenutally leads to insulin intolerance. Vinegar reverses this!

Vinegar ALSO has been scientificallly studied to increase feelings of satiety (fullness) more readily.

Vinegar also caused the Liver to produce fat oxidizing enzymes.


Now I know the guy who drank it in excess to pass his piss test was telling the truth when he said his fat flew off his body.

I just wanted to add to this since I have been taking the Vinegar I have noticed a dramatic uptick in energy like I have not seen in years.

My biggest mistake is I now have to learn to GREATLY reduce my portion sizes as I get fuller on much less food,

I can see the difference in the waste line already..

Kudos Vinegar!!

very cool stuff OP.

QUESTION; can you explain what the effect of combining the Vit. C and Iodine protocol with the ACV regimen will have? please explain

I was on metformin for about three months for type 2 diabetes and then he took me off...I lost over 28 pounds and then gained it all back. started taking fenugreek since it is supposed to be the alternative for metformin and it has done nothing...so I thinkI will try this vit. c thing with the iodine!

I just had to make it known to the OP. That my wife currently is on the recommended dosage. So far, she has lost some weight in very short amount of time. She did not change her food intake at all, and continues her regime of daily recommended dosage.

To people that are going to try this, it does work but you have to stick with it.