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How to defeat FBI facial recognition and being "On the list" - A How-To Guide

 
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well well well---guess what ?
they know where we live and we know where they live.


besides that GPS shyte--didn't the little acorn ask you how many means of "egress" on that dwelling ?
how many rooms ? inhabitants
etc
LM@O ! so now they have this GPS and want to know if/how you can get out---shades of ussama !

i told them to go over to theee dept of buildings, as everything is right there for them to view as public knowledge
and i was then told-"don't make this difficult"
i......quietly...........closed......my door
and i live in a very crowded area and this was in JULY 2010.
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well well well---guess what ?
they know where we live and we know where they live.


besides that GPS shyte--didn't the little acorn ask you how many means of "egress" on that dwelling ?
how many rooms ? inhabitants
etc
LM@O ! so now they have this GPS and want to know if/how you can get out---shades of ussama !

i told them to go over to theee dept of buildings, as everything is right there for them to view as public knowledge
and i was then told-"don't make this difficult"
i......quietly...........closed......my door
and i live in a very crowded area and this was in JULY 2010.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169966


Let me get this straight: they asked you how many ways out of your house there are? WTF???

The bass-turds came to my place last year, I told them it was a business location, not residential. They went away.
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After reading the posts, there seems to be two kinds of people out there. Those who implicitly trust government, like children, and those that do not.

It reminds me of the V for Vendetta quote:

"So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest that you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked."

So after all the Census data digging, the DHS Total Information Awareness vacuuming, and the AT&T Internet snooping - these do not arouse any self interest then let this thread pass you by.
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....the American people would be shocked to know the level of unconstitutional spying that is going on.
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Give me a phone number.....or just an address.... with either one, I can pull a full legal name, social security number, date of birth, etc., in about 5.2 seconds.

In another 2.4 seconds, I can then obtain family members, their SSNs, their addresses, etc.

Indeed, people would be shocked to find out how much of their so-called "personal information" is readily available.
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10/07/2011 12:31 AM
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They dont allow a PO Box address on driver license here
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They dont allow a PO Box address on driver license here
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...and you have to take something such as a lease or utility bill showing you live at the street address you are putting on your license.
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In my state they used to allow PO boxes on driver's licenses, but then they folded to DHS demands for real addresses. It seems like OPs idea of a temporary address, or a friend who is willing to sign a "lease" might work.
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well well well---guess what ?
they know where we live and we know where they live.
i was then told-"don't make this difficult"
i......quietly...........closed......my door
and i live in a very crowded area and this was in JULY 2010.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169966


Let me get this straight: they asked you how many ways out of your house there are? WTF???

The bass-turds came to my place last year, I told them it was a business location, not residential. They went away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1476119


Jolly good show. Told them your house was a small business. Heh heh!

The Census worker was relentless in my area. Apparently she got all sorts of heat from people so she put up a no trespassing sign at the entrance to HER driveway... that little Judas.
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I got a notice in the mail about my license which is to be renewed soon. It said I needed my birth certificate, SS card, rental agreement, and voter registration.

So I went down to the courthouse to find out what I needed for the voter registration - nothing, apparently. Just needed to verbally give them my address and other identifiers. So... renting a cheap apartment for a month or two should clear up having my real address on record. The correspondence address will be a P.O. Box anyhow. Hehehe. F.U. Napolitano!
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11/16/2011 12:29 PM
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got a question for u OP....

what r the odds of a full blown collapse/civil war in this country?
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That's a lot of work when "the neighbors" know where I live, and we still pay "taxes" on our current house.
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got a question for u OP....

what r the odds of a full blown collapse/civil war in this country?
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The question that has been burning in many men's minds.

I've come to the conclusion that our economy is run by the Elite, and not completely market forces. It's not Capitalism, it's Crony Crapitalism.

That being said, our economy will not be tanked completely if the Elite have their wishes. They want A) Control and B) A good standard of living for themselves. Allowing a full scale economic collapse is not in their best interests. Difficult to have a nice, jet-set life without refined oil products or if there's mass chaos everywhere.

HOWEVER...

You and I are the wild cards. As are tens of millions of healthy, patriotic, armed, and veteran Americans. If we make their bid for control difficult they may use a false flag to ignite a civil war. They will try to fund both sides of the conflict in order to control the outcome. However, they may fail in this bid and the system spiral out of control.

Then we could see a collapse.

Odds of a full scale collapse? I would say 20%.

Odds of a civil war? I would say over 50%.

If your house had a 50% chance of burning down over the next five years, would you take out fire insurance?

Protecting your privacy from these federal goons is like insurance.
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That's a lot of work when "the neighbors" know where I live, and we still pay "taxes" on our current house.
 Quoting: ClassicHen


Your house should be owned by a trust or LLC and not in your name. It's good business sense and has liability / tax / privacy advantages. Most of my assets are not owned by myself, but by my company. All completely legal.

If you incorporate in Nevada or Wyoming I don't believe you need to divulge your real name. The paperwork is handled by a lawyer in Vegas or Cheyenne.
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What is an anonymizer?
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11/16/2011 12:59 PM
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I thought for a second he was going to help us on how to be on the VIP list to get in for free at the clubs. I hate that shit, u have to be in a list just go inside the club -.-
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This is good stuff. I already get all my mail at my P.O. Box. Though my current residence is all over my credit report and other things. It's OK though because I'm building a house and will soon be moving into it, and I won't give that address out to ANYONE. I spend most of my day at my office though (I'm the owner) and my office address is all over the internet if someone wanted to find me during the day. Oh well.
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well well well---guess what ?
they know where we live and we know where they live.
i was then told-"don't make this difficult"
i......quietly...........closed......my door
and i live in a very crowded area and this was in JULY 2010.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1169966


Let me get this straight: they asked you how many ways out of your house there are? WTF???

The bass-turds came to my place last year, I told them it was a business location, not residential. They went away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1476119


Jolly good show. Told them your house was a small business. Heh heh!

The Census worker was relentless in my area. Apparently she got all sorts of heat from people so she put up a no trespassing sign at the entrance to HER driveway... that little Judas.
clappa
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No one is ever at home during the day at my house, except sometimes my housekeeper. The census people apparently got sick of trying to find anyone at home and finally left a thing on the door asking for someone to call them. I sent them a letter explaining that I would not answer any of their questions except for the number of people living in the house as they have no legal basis to ask anything beyond that. I never heard anything else from them.
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This is good stuff. I already get all my mail at my P.O. Box. Though my current residence is all over my credit report and other things. It's OK though because I'm building a house and will soon be moving into it, and I won't give that address out to ANYONE. I spend most of my day at my office though (I'm the owner) and my office address is all over the internet if someone wanted to find me during the day. Oh well.
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I think the idea here is not to be low-hanging fruit. In the unlikely event the federales try scooping people up you will get indications of this... and then adios. Bug out. Save your live.

Again, I think this scenario is unlikely but possible.
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Free tip...

Collect three (3) "junk mail" fliers addressed to YOU, by name, that are offering financial incentives, such as credit cards, credit lines, or "free" bank accounts.

Fill out each one completely, except where there is an entry blank for your "occupation." Here you should print, in all caps, "DECEASED." Return all three forms in the mail.

You will no longer receive junk mail addressed to you by name.

It isn't "full proof" off the grid, but is enough information in a database somewhere to flag your name as irrelevant.

After I did this, and many years later applied for the background check for a firearm purchase, my application returned as "Deceased." How did a credit card application information end up getting into a FBI database? ...guess.
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Paranoid much?
 Quoting: BRIEF


Paid government shill.

He's trying to infect you with the inability to resist ignorance.
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Not only is practicing our privacy rights a right in and of itself, it is wise. Identity theft is a very real concern.
I was a victim of ID theft and it fouled up my life for years after.

Check out what our Gubment has planned for us.
[link to americancensorship.org]
I am posting this link everywhere viable, hopefully it isn't construed as spam but more of an awareness.

Thanks.
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"It is a common misconception that male lions don't hunt. W
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Don't say that, it attacks female resentment.
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Free tip...

Collect three (3) "junk mail" fliers addressed to YOU, by name, that are offering financial incentives, such as credit cards, credit lines, or "free" bank accounts.

Fill out each one completely, except where there is an entry blank for your "occupation." Here you should print, in all caps, "DECEASED." Return all three forms in the mail.

You will no longer receive junk mail addressed to you by name.

It isn't "full proof" off the grid, but is enough information in a database somewhere to flag your name as irrelevant.

After I did this, and many years later applied for the background check for a firearm purchase, my application returned as "Deceased." How did a credit card application information end up getting into a FBI database? ...guess.
 Quoting: Tattau

Tattu:

Most excellent tip. I'll give this a try sometime and you've earned a Karma point.

I only buy firearms via private sellers, no FBI check required.

Like they say, Little Brother (Corporate America) likes to talk to Big Brother.

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Paranoid much?
 Quoting: BRIEF


Paid government shill.

He's trying to infect you with the inability to resist ignorance.
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I would love an app to hunt down these shills. Trace them down to an IP, then a street address. From there (most likely a strip mall or non-descript warehouse business) to the desk of a greasy gov't paid shill working a ManTech contract.

You can imagine their eyes going round as you sit down next to them and smile. The smell of sudden excrement wafting from their seats...
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Not only is practicing our privacy rights a right in and of itself, it is wise. Identity theft is a very real concern.
I was a victim of ID theft and it fouled up my life for years after.

Check out what our Gubment has planned for us.
[link to americancensorship.org]
I am posting this link everywhere viable, hopefully it isn't construed as spam but more of an awareness.

Thanks.
 Quoting: ColoradoKid


Honored to be a soapbox for a good cause. If this passes, my activity here would be considered illegal.

It's all about shutting down free and unpopular speech. The opposite will happen. The American people will find new ways to share ideas.

For Congress it's like trying to put together the Soviet Union after Glasnost in the late 1980's. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
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Not only is practicing our privacy rights a right in and of itself, it is wise. Identity theft is a very real concern.
I was a victim of ID theft and it fouled up my life for years after.

Check out what our Gubment has planned for us.
[link to americancensorship.org]
I am posting this link everywhere viable, hopefully it isn't construed as spam but more of an awareness.

Thanks.
 Quoting: ColoradoKid


Honored to be a soapbox for a good cause. If this passes, my activity here would be considered illegal.

It's all about shutting down free and unpopular speech. The opposite will happen. The American people will find new ways to share ideas.

For Congress it's like trying to put together the Soviet Union after Glasnost in the late 1980's. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
 Quoting: Cheyenne


It will not stop TPTB from trying in earnest. They will most likely use a "Crisis" if it be created or just an easy train to ride for their personal cause.
All for our own protection of course, they know what is best for all of us.

Speaking of WIFI, does anyone know if it is possible to use a chain link fence as a massive booster antenna?

Good thread OP!
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How do I make the white vans go away?

........wait....

Now I have black helicopters circling the house.

OP... Help!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1152779


I'll be happy to assist.

Put out a large "Obama for 2012" sign in your yard - big enough to be read by helicopter. That will let them know you are a loyal party member.
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Another excuse TPTB use will use often,
"If you aren't doing anything wrong then why be concerned with privacy".
I am sure those of us in the know have heard this in the MSM, Corporate sponsers and speakers, and other groups.

Well why should some CEO or paid spokesman deem what is appropriate using the Government as a pedestal?

TPTB, Government, special interest groups and Corporations all seem to be working together after loading each others pockets.

I wonder where this mindset will eventually arrive and what it will be like.
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Not only is practicing our privacy rights a right in and of itself, it is wise. Identity theft is a very real concern.

Thanks.
 Quoting: ColoradoKid


For Congress it's like trying to put together the Soviet Union after Glasnost in the late 1980's. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
 Quoting: Cheyenne


Speaking of WIFI, does anyone know if it is possible to use a chain link fence as a massive booster antenna?

Good thread OP!
 Quoting: ColoradoKid


I would invite you to stop by www.westernhero.blogspot.com where a bunch of us active and retired military blog - from Colorado Springs.

As far as a WIFI antenna, this is a topic I can help with.

Two ways for you to go. One uses a USB WIFI dongle and the other a WIFI card with a RF connector to it.

USB Dongle and Wok Fryer: [link to www.usbwifi.orconhosting.net.nz] (Good for around 15 dbi of gain, approximately 6 times farther than with just a USB dongle)

RF Connector and Primestar Dish:
[link to www.trevormarshall.com] (Good for around 30 dbi of gain, approximately 32 times farther than with a usb dongle)

So. You've made your antenna. What about the computer?

You don't want to be dipping into other people's WIFI with a computer littered with your personal stuff and identifiers. The person owning the AP might be a hacker and backhack you. Or turn you in.

I would take a cheap laptop, set it up with Linux, and use it only for wardriving, anonymous Internet access, and the like. Never access your real email account with it or log in to any website with your real name / email account.
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