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Our Spiral System

 
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Our Spiral System
Although I think the title of the video is a little misleading (as we do orbit around our sun), I find this video absolutely fascinating. IMO, this is a much better representation of the movement of our solar system in comparison to the standard 2D models.

I've seen this vid floating around in some other very interesting threads, and thought it deserved its own.



[link to video.godlikeproductions.com]

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Now take into account what you know about barycenters...the sun is not moving in a straight line....

It's warping, wefting and braiding it's way through space based on the pull of the other planets...
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The sun's barycenter through time.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The sun orbits around this point sometimes within sometime outside of the solar body.

Here we are now: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

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Stupid 1 star bandit... gaah
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Now take into account what you know about barycenters...the sun is not moving in a straight line....

It's warping, wefting and braiding it's way through space based on the pull of the other planets...
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... and we're moving fast.
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Stupid 1 star bandit... gaah
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5 star patch up =)
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... and we're moving fast.
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Stupid 1 star bandit... gaah
 Quoting: SickScent

5 star patch up =)
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Thread: Guess what else happens Oct 28th....do you know where your barycenter is?
Understanding barycenter sheaths and where/how they intersect...significance in 2012.

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

The barycenter is not a single point in the Sun. Because the Sun is a rotating gaseous sphere, the barycenter forms a vertical, cylindrical "sleeve" that is partially inside and outside the main solar body. All of the planets have such a "sleeve," one inside the other, depending on their relative mass and the location of their barycenters. The particular sleeve representing the mass of Jupiter intersects the solar surface at 35.9 degrees North and South. This is precisely where sunspot and flare activity begin and end during each 11 year cycle.


Scientists have noted that when Jupiter and Saturn are aligned, on the same side of the Sun, the solar activity is at its maximum; when they are on opposite sides of the Sun the solar activity is at its minimum.

These cylinders are usually quite orderly because the planets adhere to a narrow plane, called the ecliptic which resembles a thin plate extending from the equator of the Sun. The planets hang out here because (in simple terms) this is the zone where the gravitation of the system is the strongest. (see below)

The planets orbit the Sun in a narrow plane called the ecliptic


But nature is never perfect. The Sun rotates at a slight angle (7.25 degrees), much as our Earth does. As it wobbles, it tilts the sleeves, causing them to clash with each other and eventually disrupt the surface. This disturbance, to put it simply, works its way to the surface and erupts in sun spots and solar flares.
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The sun's barycenter through time.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The sun orbits around this point sometimes within sometime outside of the solar body.

Here we are now: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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This also relates to the endless amount
of things related to spirals in existence. The most obvious example is our DNA.
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I remember seeing on one of Bowmans threads that our system moving through space actually looks like a dna strand, just thought I would add that...going to watch the clip now.
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Stupid 1 star bandit... gaah
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5 star patch up =)
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


+5
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This also relates to the endless amount
of things related to spirals in existence. The most obvious example is our DNA.
 Quoting: doo doo butter 1441655


I have come to a firm conclusion, that the universe is spiral in form. From vibration in 4 dimensions, to Birkeland currents, Fibonacci, torus in motion, on and on...everything is spiral in form.

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I'm wondering what effect 0 g's has at the bottom of sun spot columns....given where the barycenter is located as of now...

[link to www.umt.edu]

1) Rotation of sun about barycenter is related to formation of sunspots and solar flare activity.

· Sun at Max and Min distance from barycenter (Saturn and Jupiter aligned), solar flare and sunspot activity

very high (about once per 11 years).

· Sun between max and min distance to barycenter (Saturn and Jupiter not aligned), solar flare and sunspot activity low.

2) Sunspot and solar flare activity influences strength of solar wind (which bombards Earth)

3) Fluctuations in strength of solar wind affect Earth climate (e.g. length of growing season).



Currently they are on opposite sides of the sun with the earth in the middle....

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:parkerspiral:

:spiralknot:

:saturnaur:

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:parkerspiral:

:spiralknot:

:saturnaur:

:spiral anc33:
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Thread: The Cosmology of Twin Opposing Electro-Magnetic Vortices
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:spiral anc33:
 Quoting: SickScent

"My God....it's full of pasta."
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:lmaoroll:
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Stupid 1 star bandit... gaah
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5 star patch up =)
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


+5
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Thanks DOOM!

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makes perfect sense. but like the OP said, the title is a little misleading.

we are orbiting the sun but since the sun is moving if we had a "tail" it would spiral.
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I truly believe this is the next step in viewing how reality works. It is as if the way we study things is 2 dimensional. It has been too difficult to envision the complex motions that would entail the movement of universal celestial systems. This is going into a 4-5 dimensional framework of understanding.
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makes perfect sense. but like the OP said, the title is a little misleading.

we are orbiting the sun but since the sun is moving if we had a "tail" it would spiral.
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It is the motion of movement that the tail is representing. So, we ARE moving spiral in form, we just don't 'see' that we do because there are no 'trails' visible.
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Ive tried to explain this concept to my friends multiple times. I said we are never in the same piece of space EVER. Question is, do the planets rotate perpendicular to the way the sun is traveling like your pic above or some other configuration that is much more complicated to visualize?

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Ive tried to explain this concept to my friends multiple times. I said we are never in the same piece of space EVER. Question is, do the planets rotate perpendicular to the way the sun is traveling like the pic above or some other configuration that is much more complicated to visualize?
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HA! That was EXACTLY my question! BUT, even if we moved parallel, we still have a waveform movement along the ecliptic of the galaxy. So the spiral would be skewed. OH! I wonder if we are angled perpendicular on the way 'down' and through the ecliptic, and transition perpendicular towards the apex of curve to perpendicular on the upswing. THAT is an interesting concept...whichever it is.
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Ive tried to explain this concept to my friends multiple times. I said we are never in the same piece of space EVER. Question is, do the planets rotate perpendicular to the way the sun is traveling like the pic above or some other configuration that is much more complicated to visualize?
 Quoting: SickScent


HA! That was EXACTLY my question!




Im starting to feel we think on the same wavelength...

P.S. Idk what is going on with the quoting. That is why I have had to edit my posts.

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Funny I was teaching my 10 year old that we are not standing still in space and was looking for an example to show him.

got one now.

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makes perfect sense. but like the OP said, the title is a little misleading.

we are orbiting the sun but since the sun is moving if we had a "tail" it would spiral.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


It is the motion of movement that the tail is representing. So, we ARE moving spiral in form, we just don't 'see' that we do because there are no 'trails' visible.
 Quoting: SickScent


right....at least i think we are agreeing, lol.

question though, dont spirals come to an end in the center? or is it just one of those infinity things?
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makes perfect sense. but like the OP said, the title is a little misleading.

we are orbiting the sun but since the sun is moving if we had a "tail" it would spiral.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


It is the motion of movement that the tail is representing. So, we ARE moving spiral in form, we just don't 'see' that we do because there are no 'trails' visible.
 Quoting: SickScent


right....at least i think we are agreeing, lol.

question though, dont spirals come to an end in the center? or is it just one of those infinity things?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


The motion is more like the shape of a spring that never ends.
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makes perfect sense. but like the OP said, the title is a little misleading.

we are orbiting the sun but since the sun is moving if we had a "tail" it would spiral.
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


It is the motion of movement that the tail is representing. So, we ARE moving spiral in form, we just don't 'see' that we do because there are no 'trails' visible.
 Quoting: SickScent


right....at least i think we are agreeing, lol.

question though, dont spirals come to an end in the center? or is it just one of those infinity things?
 Quoting: MrOysterhead


The motion is more like the shape of a spring that never ends.
 Quoting: fraudulentzodiac


gotcha, a spring is a good description.

i cant believe that i never thought about our system being a spiral before. its seems so clear now but never crossed my mind before today
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