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Our Spiral System

 
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But remember the barycenter migrates around and it would be a wobbly sin-wave composed of smaller waves...


Oh God in heaven, they done thunked it up before me.. ..gentlemen...... let me present you with the Solar Powerwave!!!

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Now your speaking my language. I heart visualizations.
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Awesome! thumbs

Whoa...a lot more on that page...


One of the main climate drivers is the PDO (Pacific decadeal oscillation) which aligns with solar velocity modulation, the other metric that Nicola shows is the solar distance from the SSB which moves in 20 year approx modulations but fluctuates higher when Uranus & Neptune are in conjunction (see top graph). The two oscillations combining to achieve the largest amplitude of modulation for over a hundred years that also corresponds to the large temperature increase between 1970 and 2000. The IPCC determines this as an AGW forcing but perhaps they have been riding a wave driven by celestial forces that is now crashing down around them? The celestial patterns have been coming off a high at around 2000 and are now well and truly on the decline phase, with the PDO also into its cool phase. Add to this the Landscheidt minimum and the stage is set for a reasonable period of cooling along with a platform to prove/disprove our theories.
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The oscillation is the swing of the barycenter, correct? Which alters the 3D sin wave movement of the sun? (sorry, I haven't gotten in detail yet with Barycenter)
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I'm a believer in the solar system's motion through space is not a simple sinewave as depicted in 2d space, but rather that sinewave is a 2d cross section of the spiral motion we travel as we rotate around our galactic arm. Everything in space is spiral in it's motion. Why would our solar system travel in a sinewave oscillating up and down? what kind of mechanism would provide the forces for that type of motion. In my opinion we are zipping along, spiraling around our galactic arm along with everything else in our local space.. the spiral motion being driven by the galaxy itself.
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I agree with you right there. I was thinking about it after the post. A cross section of a spiral would exactly like a sine wave. The entire system would be spiraling around the barycenter.

Goofy Thum
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This thread feels so...good. Its like something clicked into place. A whole new way of looking at us, and our environment. I don't know how to express the feeling I am getting from this information, except to say, it feels REALLY good.
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Sometimes is just like...Click! afro

I think the barycenter of this thread got all our asses stuck in orbit....

rockon
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rockon
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The Luxodrome pattern...
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dayum... now I gotta look something up! LOL
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Watcha got?
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The Luxodrome pattern...
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dayum... now I gotta look something up! LOL
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skeleton of luxodrome

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But remember the barycenter migrates around and it would be a wobbly sin-wave composed of smaller waves...


Oh God in heaven, they done thunked it up before me.. ..gentlemen...... let me present you with the Solar Powerwave!!!

[link to landscheidt.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: fraudulentzodiac:MV8xNjY0OTU1XzI3NTEzMDM4X0Q5MEFGMEE3


moshpit

Now your speaking my language. I heart visualizations.
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex

Awesome! thumbs

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One of the main climate drivers is the PDO (Pacific decadeal oscillation) which aligns with solar velocity modulation, the other metric that Nicola shows is the solar distance from the SSB which moves in 20 year approx modulations but fluctuates higher when Uranus & Neptune are in conjunction (see top graph). The two oscillations combining to achieve the largest amplitude of modulation for over a hundred years that also corresponds to the large temperature increase between 1970 and 2000. The IPCC determines this as an AGW forcing but perhaps they have been riding a wave driven by celestial forces that is now crashing down around them? The celestial patterns have been coming off a high at around 2000 and are now well and truly on the decline phase, with the PDO also into its cool phase. Add to this the Landscheidt minimum and the stage is set for a reasonable period of cooling along with a platform to prove/disprove our theories.
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Another piece of evidence piling up against the mythical anthropogenic global warming. The Jupiter Angular Momentum graph towards the bottom is pretty telling. Major outliers at Jupiter/Saturn conjunction aphelion.
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HA! That was EXACTLY my question! BUT, even if we moved parallel, we still have a waveform movement along the ecliptic of the galaxy. So the spiral would be skewed. OH! I wonder if we are angled perpendicular on the way 'down' and through the ecliptic, and transition perpendicular towards the apex of curve to perpendicular on the upswing. THAT is an interesting concept...whichever it is.
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What baffles me is the celestial mechanism that would cause the sun to travel in the sine wave form. What makes it turn back at the apex? I know its all balance, but its like we hit he roof of space then head back down the curve. Mind blowing...

bonghit
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I'm a believer in the solar system's motion through space is not a simple sinewave as depicted in 2d space, but rather that sinewave is a 2d cross section of the spiral motion we travel as we rotate around our galactic arm. Everything in space is spiral in it's motion. Why would our solar system travel in a sinewave oscillating up and down? what kind of mechanism would provide the forces for that type of motion. In my opinion we are zipping along, spiraling around our galactic arm along with everything else in our local space.. the spiral motion being driven by the galaxy itself.
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I agree with you right there. I was thinking about it after the post. A cross section of a spiral would be exactly like a sine wave. The entire system would be spiraling around the barycenter.

Goofy Thum
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excellent sequence of words.
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The oscillation is the swing of the barycenter, correct? Which alters the 3D sin wave movement of the sun? (sorry, I haven't gotten in detail yet with Barycenter)
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Correct which is why the alignment of the planets affect the angular momentum of the sun through space, pulling on it's various sides in varying combined strengths.


All those planets are jerkin daddy Sun around like so many demanding kids...

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The oscillation is the swing of the barycenter, correct? Which alters the 3D sin wave movement of the sun? (sorry, I haven't gotten in detail yet with Barycenter)
 Quoting: SickScent

Correct which is why the alignment of the planets affect the angular momentum of the sun through space, pulling on it's various sides in varying combined strengths.


All those planets are jerkin daddy Sun around like so many demanding kids...

children
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^THIS^



Awesome

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I'm having too much fun...I but, I've got to go to bed. I'll check this out in the morning. Especially that website you linked, Rex.
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Another good example of what the barycenter is like for the Sun is the "teacups" ride at the fair. Orbiting cups which you are one side of, all on a larger orbit, all on another orbit....okay so like a tea cup on a saucer on a plate...stay with me here!

When the planets line up, you as the sun are pulled hard and flung around like the line up of the orbits on the ride, lining up to fling you around the outside at highest velocity, most pull.

When the orbits are spread around (jupiter on one side and most everything else on the other) You are near the center of the combined rotations and the fling is not so great.
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I'm having too much fun...I but, I've got to go to bed. I'll check this out in the morning. Especially that website you linked, Rex.
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Rest well brother! cheers
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I'm having too much fun...I but, I've got to go to bed. I'll check this out in the morning. Especially that website you linked, Rex.
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Night, sleep well.afro
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Everything spins.
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I'm having too much fun...I but, I've got to go to bed. I'll check this out in the morning. Especially that website you linked, Rex.
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Goodtimes for all! Peace SS

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Stupid 1 star bandit... gaah
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Five big ones for you *****
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Obama is a pinko communist just like Trinty and his BS censorship! Cancel all paid accounts! He is part of the NWO censorship program!
Nice try bitch!
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Now take into account what you know about barycenters...the sun is not moving in a straight line....

It's warping, wefting and braiding it's way through space based on the pull of the other planets...
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true our sun orbits Alcyone as part of 500 suns that orbit it. Alcyone then orbits orbits the core of Nebadon, our local universe. In fact our universe of Nebadon of which our sun is a part orbits around the milky way which is the core galaxy of the superuniverse of Orvonton and all of Orvonton orbits the central Nucleus of the creation, Havona, which because of the dark gravity bodies around it, is never seen from telescopes. Our trip around the the Milky Way takes about 225 million of our years. Our planet was seeded with life 550 million years ago, and has now completed 2 grand cycles and we are in the energies since 2006 coming from that core, the same energies which this planet was in when seeded with life. That is very important and has everything to do with the end of this grand cycle and the reboot so to speak of our solar system.

You ones live in grand times, take advantage. The guy is somewhat wrong we do orbit the sun but the orbits do vary some across the "disk" or plane. He makes it sort of look like the planets chase the sun and that is not so. And the so called brown dwarf or Planet X is required in this process. it IS the balance of energies between the brown dwarf and our sun that in fact enable our sun to travel around Alcyone every 26000 years. And Alcyone also has one or more brown dwarfs that drag it around Nebadon and so on and so forth. the brown dwarfs are dark gravity bodies and not what science has decided they are.
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study Buckminster Fuller much tards ??
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This also relates to the endless amount
of things related to spirals in existence. The most obvious example is our DNA.
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I have come to a firm conclusion, that the universe is spiral in form. From vibration in 4 dimensions, to Birkeland currents, Fibonacci, torus in motion, on and on...everything is spiral in form.

:SpiralS:

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Rock ON
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true our sun orbits Alcyone as part of 500 suns that orbit it. Alcyone then orbits orbits the core of Nebadon, our local universe. In fact our universe of Nebadon of which our sun is a part orbits around the milky way which is the core galaxy of the superuniverse of Orvonton and all of Orvonton orbits the central Nucleus of the creation, Havona, which because of the dark gravity bodies around it, is never seen from telescopes. Our trip around the the Milky Way takes about 225 million of our years. Our planet was seeded with life 550 million years ago, and has now completed 2 grand cycles and we are in the energies since 2006 coming from that core, the same energies which this planet was in when seeded with life. That is very important and has everything to do with the end of this grand cycle and the reboot so to speak of our solar system.

You ones live in grand times, take advantage. The guy is somewhat wrong we do orbit the sun but the orbits do vary some across the "disk" or plane. He makes it sort of look like the planets chase the sun and that is not so. And the so called brown dwarf or Planet X is required in this process. it IS the balance of energies between the brown dwarf and our sun that in fact enable our sun to travel around Alcyone every 26000 years. And Alcyone also has one or more brown dwarfs that drag it around Nebadon and so on and so forth. the brown dwarfs are dark gravity bodies and not what science has decided they are.
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Very nice, beautiful too... Thank you!
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The spiral being is on its way - will arrive soon. abduct
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A very simple concept demonstrated quite eloquently.

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Yet another aspect of our spiral path through the aether.
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Thread: Are We Connected? Is This Part Of The Answer?
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Although I think the title of the video is a little misleading (as we do orbit around our sun), I find this video absolutely fascinating. IMO, this is a much better representation of the movement of our solar system in comparison to the standard 2D models.

I've seen this vid floating around in some other very interesting threads, and thought it deserved its own.



[link to video.godlikeproductions.com]

:spiralsystem:
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To me, this just means the universe is expanding.
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Not sure science agrees with you. Dark matter/energy are real concerns for many.
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Although I think the title of the video is a little misleading (as we do orbit around our sun), I find this video absolutely fascinating. IMO, this is a much better representation of the movement of our solar system in comparison to the standard 2D models.

I've seen this vid floating around in some other very interesting threads, and thought it deserved its own.



[link to video.godlikeproductions.com]

:spiralsystem:
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To me, this just means the universe is expanding.
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I'm curious.

How would be the dynamics of the spiral change if the Universe were contracting and not expanding?
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Stupid 1 star bandit... gaah
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the best threads always get them...

I home school my daughter - we just watched the video - thanks for posting it!!

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SS Sorry I'm late to the party. Great thread!

Utilizing this information, the Electric Universe theory, and the magnetic ribbon info.

My question to you is as we traverse the Galactic Center next December, will we experience a change in the magnetic polarity as we cross from the southern to the northern half of the Galaxy. If so, will our solar system's polarity change. Is this what flips the magnetic poles.

Is the magnetic ribbon / flux that NASA has been researching a visual representation of the change in the magnetic flux lines that indicate a change in polarity based on the top and bottom halves of our Galaxy.

Is this the mechanism that could cause the internal core of our planet to change direction of spin, causing the earth to stop rotation, then reverse itself causing the sun to rise in the east (The 3 days of darkness lore). Could this be the cause of our history of devastating earth changes that have happened throughout history.
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SS Sorry I'm late to the party. Great thread!

Utilizing this information, the Electric Universe theory, and the magnetic ribbon info.

My question to you is as we traverse the Galactic Center next December, will we experience a change in the magnetic polarity as we cross from the southern to the northern half of the Galaxy. If so, will our solar system's polarity change. Is this what flips the magnetic poles.

Is the magnetic ribbon / flux that NASA has been researching a visual representation of the change in the magnetic flux lines that indicate a change in polarity based on the top and bottom halves of our Galaxy.

Is this the mechanism that could cause the internal core of our planet to change direction of spin, causing the earth to stop rotation, then reverse itself causing the sun to rise in the east (The 3 days of darkness lore). Could this be the cause of our history of devastating earth changes that have happened throughout history.
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According to this... [link to www.astrodigital.org]

Just as the Earth has an equator, so too does the galaxy and we are about 14 light years above what's called the equatorial symmetry plane. As to the thickness of the disk, most current estimates put it at around 1,000 light years thick. Obviously our solar system lies very close to the galaxy's equator.


I've found else where that the mean periodicy of the sol system's "carosel" effect through the galactic plane has an amplitude of 230 light years and we crossed it 3 million years ago...30 millions left... 1dunno1

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