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MSM claims Occupy Orlando wants $20hr min. wage! O.O. denies?

 
momma coop

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This demand proves their ignorance.


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The following is from a response to this thread by some one claiming to be from Occupy Orlando. I can not verify this person is who they say they are but I am including it in my thread in the interest of fairness.

I am Richasrd Richmond. I was the person speaking at the Occupy Orlando Rally. At no time during my 20 minute speech did I call for a $20.00 an hour minimum wage.

This is a canard to distract you from the simple message I was delivering. That message is that a small, extraordinarily wealthy group of individuals and their Wall St. support mechanisms have coordinated a plan to move jobs to developing counties where wages are less than 1/10th of those needed to sustain a quality life in the USA.

It is impossible to create jobs in America when there are 500 million agricultural Chinese willing to move to cities, live in labor camps and work for less than $2.00 per hour.

I offered the simple solution of taxing imports by the labor differential between developing and developed societies. If there is 3 hours of labor in the cost component of an item (I used bicycles as an example) and there was an $8.00 an hour difference in the labor component of production, then that item would face an import duty. (In my example: 3 Hours x 80% of the labor differential of $8.00 an hour would equal $19.20.

This tax forces nations to compete not by offering its citizens as industrial slaves, but by being inventive and innovative.

In this way the deficit would be reduced, developing societies would still have a competitive advantage in the wage component, but the impact on American jobs(and those of other more developed nations) would be substantially reversed. In essence, slowing the enormously rapid transfer of jobs from the USA and its developed allies to China.

I stated that a working American family requires approximately $20.00 an hour ($800. a week, $40,000 a year) in order to support, feed, educate and provide for their children's education, college costs and retirement savings.

A $20.00 minimum wage is unsustainable at this time. I would never make such a statement nor would I support it legislatively.
 Quoting: R.R. Richmond 2773229


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A 20 dollar min. wage means 200 dollar an hour for union guys to do simple shit. This means every thing will be made in China. Bye bye American jobs.
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yep...$20/hour minimum wage would be perfect.....for the complete and final destruction of America, that is.

Minimum wages that high would double unemployment almost overnight as companies would have to slice and dice employees in order to keep doors open...or they could drastically take a hit to their revenue but what company wants to do that?...Not to mention that it would more than likely send any sound company still operating in the US, overseas ASAP, thus destroying EVEN MORE jobs.

Some people will argue that big companies that only pay large salaries wouldn't be affected...WRONG! There is ALWAYS the laborer at the bottom of the totem poll making the products or selling services...either that it would significantly increase the indirect materials you need to BUY through companies that DO employee low wage employees who make the goods.

So are they really this stupid????

I said it in another thread calling for the deaths of millionaires...and I'll say it again here...this HAS to be written by a federal agent trying to start an uprising and putting the final nail in the American empire.

This makes me physically sick.
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What a wonderful and diverse group of patriots who really love the United States...thank you.
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momma coop (OP)

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Re: MSM claims Occupy Orlando wants $20hr min. wage! O.O. denies?
yep...$20/hour minimum wage would be perfect.....for the complete and final destruction of America, that is.

Minimum wages that high would double unemployment almost overnight as companies would have to slice and dice employees in order to keep doors open...or they could drastically take a hit to their revenue but what company wants to do that?...Not to mention that it would more than likely send any sound company still operating in the US, overseas ASAP, thus destroying EVEN MORE jobs.

Some people will argue that big companies that only pay large salaries wouldn't be affected...WRONG! There is ALWAYS the laborer at the bottom of the totem poll making the products or selling services...either that it would significantly increase the indirect materials you need to BUY through companies that DO employee low wage employees who make the goods.

So are they really this stupid????

I said it in another thread calling for the deaths of millionaires...and I'll say it again here...this HAS to be written by a federal agent trying to start an uprising and putting the final nail in the American empire.

This makes me physically sick.
 Quoting: MARTIAL LAW


Exactly, it proves 1 of 2 things, either they know what they are asking for would destroy the U.S. or they really are that ignorant.
"I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride, even though sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams."

"Because you are you"
MARTIAL LAW

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In fact I read all their 'demands' the other day...and they were almost ALL completely 180 degrees away from what SHOULD be done...the only one I agree with is...I think it was the last one...calling for a paper voting system and doing away with electronic voting. I agree with this because I know they rig elections and doing it digitally is WAY easier to rig.

It's so funny how all the tyranny coming down us ALWAYS has a positive spin. It's either for our safety or for our convenience.

Screw that. No one said life was easy. No one said we are guaranteed no threats, no fear, no death. It's part of life and has always existed in this world we live in. So they can take all their security propaganda and shove it up their ass...i'll keep my freedom.

Sorry for rant. Good thread op.

rant

Last Edited by MARTIAL LAW on 10/06/2011 10:33 AM
:martiallaw4:

“The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it.”

Isaiah 43:2
When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze.

Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. ~9/11 Was An Inside Job!
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In fact I read all their 'demands' the other day...and they were almost ALL completely 180 degrees away from what SHOULD be done...the only one I agree with is...I think it was the last one...calling for a paper voting system and doing away with electronic voting. I agree with this because I know they rig elections and doing it digitally is WAY easier to rig.

It's so funny how all the tyranny coming down us ALWAYS has a positive spin. It's either for our safety or for our convenience.

Screw that. No one said life was easy. No one said we are guaranteed no threats, no fear, no death. It's part of life and has always existed in this world we live in. So they can take all their security propaganda and shove it up their ass...i'll keep my freedom.

Sorry for rant. Good thread op.

rant
 Quoting: MARTIAL LAW


Thanks and Rant away. :)

Here is a link to the Orlando Sentinels list of tweets etc. that relate to Occupy Orlando.

[link to www.orlandosentinel.com]

One person was shocked that every time she asked some one to go to Occupy Orlando it was like she asked them to join the Military.

Personally I am glad to hear it. I hope the group stays small.
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"Because you are you"
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Why stop there... I think we should make it $50/hr. Think of how much that would help everyone!

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I am Richasrd Richmond. I was the person speaking at the Occupy Orlando Rally. At no time during my 20 minute speech did I call for a $20.00 an hour minimum wage.

This is a canard to distract you from the simple message I was delivering. That message is that a small, extraordinarily wealthy group of individuals and their Wall St. support mechanisms have coordinated a plan to move jobs to developing counties where wages are less than 1/10th of those needed to sustain a quality life in the USA.

It is impossible to create jobs in America when there are 500 million agricultural Chinese willing to move to cities, live in labor camps and work for less than $2.00 per hour.

I offered the simple solution of taxing imports by the labor differential between developing and developed societies. If there is 3 hours of labor in the cost component of an item (I used bicycles as an example) and there was an $8.00 an hour difference in the labor component of production, then that item would face an import duty. (In my example: 3 Hours x 80% of the labor differential of $8.00 an hour would equal $19.20.

This tax forces nations to compete not by offering its citizens as industrial slaves, but by being inventive and innovative.

In this way the deficit would be reduced, developing societies would still have a competitive advantage in the wage component, but the impact on American jobs(and those of other more developed nations) would be substantially reversed. In essence, slowing the enormously rapid transfer of jobs from the USA and its developed allies to China.

I stated that a working American family requires approximately $20.00 an hour ($800. a week, $40,000 a year) in order to support, feed, educate and provide for their children's education, college costs and retirement savings.

A $20.00 minimum wage is unsustainable at this time. I would never make such a statement nor would I support it legislatively.
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"Because you are you"
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The minimum wage here in BC, Canaduh will be increased 3 times before spring 2012 to $10.25/hour.

Fucking retarded.

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A $20.00 minimum wage is unsustainable at this time. I would never make such a statement nor would I support it legislatively.
 Quoting: R.R. Richmond 2773229


Reading comprehension people. It's a very simple thing really, but let me give you a refresher on 1st grade reading comprehension.

First thing you do is you read the whole article.

Then you try to understand what was just said, it's hard I know makes your brain hurt sometimes, but it gets better the more you do it.

So lets just try this little experiment shall we. Can anyone tell me where in the article is it stated that anyone is for a $20 hr minimum wage ? Hmm ? No I didn't think so because it's not fucking there.

So let me help out here, for those of you that actually thought that he said he was for a $20 hour minimum wage. Lets start you out at reading something that you can comprehend. Your first book should be Fun with Dick & Jane, here's a link - [link to www.barnesandnoble.com] After that we can move you on to something a little more advanced. But for now, since you have demonstrated a total lack of skills in the reading comprehension department. Please refrain adult talk, ok. Oh and if this offends you, pull up your big girl panties and get over it, no one likes a cry baby.

And just remember kiddies, Hooked on Phonics, worked for me.


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