What I saw at Occupy Philadelphia last night

Obama is not in control. Don't let him think he is.

obongo is an Idealist Communist who's mentor was Frank Marshall Davis-a communist. This from his own autobiography. So the same obongo financing arm is also financing the demonstrations, this is communist option

obongo could not run a lemonade stand, the major rear craniotomy scars on his scalp might have something to do with that.
But I know obongo has never been in control of this administration.

So why elevate him to the level that you have been regarding the protests? As you say, he couldn't run a lemonade stand. How can he possibly be infiltrating the protests? ;)

But seriously, he is not in charge. WE ARE. And we need to REMIND the fat cats of this fact!

We are not in charge of obongo. He has soros fingerprints all over everything he does, the US transition to communism is a soros goal. In his own words something like it would be his life's crowning achievement.

TEA party is against the wall street tards.

We will never join you nor support you.

Wall Street tards are Communist, Socialist and anarchist.

Your occupy game has no solution. Your philosophy is anti- American.

Trollin', or are you just old and misinformed?

OccupyBoston and NewYork had Tea Partyers show up and express their support. Some even showed up to give socks and things that were needed.

Anti-American?! Since WHEN is fighting for democracy Anti-American? That's what the whole damn country is about, brother. Maybe you've forgotten?

Sure, there are probably some anarchist kids in there, but the only reason they'd exist is if they had no faith in their government. I don't blame them.

This also why gang violence is on the rise-- There's no money being circulated back from the wealthy into the economy. They're sitting on it while the schools crumble, school programs are being cut, and college gets too expensive for anyone without tons of scholarships to afford. In fact, because a lot of the programs that had supplied the kids with something to get a scholarship WITH, a lot of kids can't GO to college right now. And they can't find jobs either. So they go to drug running, violence, and sucking from Welfare's drying tits. They band together in groups to get what they need. This is what gangs are. And they're a red flag that the government isn't doing what it's supposed to be doing for the people.

We need to tax the 1%. When we did that before, we went to the moon. We had a surplus. It was the birth of the American Dream. Have you forgotten?
Most of the problems we have in this country is that all the money's staying up top, and the middle class is dying. No one can afford to spend the money they used to, making things even more stagnant.

The REAL problem here is, the people in charge of deciding whether or not the 1% is taxed IS the 1%. Of course they're going to vote it down!! They don't want to lose their money!
They'd rather vote for another bonus for themselves, another pay raise. They're selfish pigs that need to be ripped from office. The people standing outside are probably merely finding a peaceful way to do that. That's why I'm probably going to Boston on Sunday. I have an idea.

But-- They (the 1%) control the media, which is why you're brainwashed into thinking Obama is a communist and isn't an American Citizen. They don't want you to trust Obama because they know he's wanted to tax the rich and end the war from the beginning.
When Obama was elected, he came in with rainbows and unicorns and bright ideas about how to change everything for the better. That's why I voted for him. But the people around him are preventing him from doing anything he said he was going to try to do. It's not all his fault. He's trying.
He's getting frustrated, too. Which is why, in another post, someone said he was hinting that he supported the Occupants.

So shut your anti-American mouth, you trolling piece of shit.

Nice, OP. The majority of Americans feel just like you do. It is only shills and sheep that would disagree.

Because Obama is using you! He knew these bailouts would piss off the American people! He is using you to usher in a Communist style Government, ala Hugo Chavez!

If all these protests do is make the corporations think twice about giving more bribes or accepting more bailouts on the backs of the middle and lower class, then they are successful protests.

This is NOT about socialism. This is NOT about capitalism. This IS about restoring the power to the people.

I want the restoration of the Constitution as the Law of the Land.

Some want the government to control everything.

ALL want to have a public discussion about our grievances with the way the world runs.


I went to City Hall around 8pm last night. Prior to that, I talked to my former boss who worked 20 stories up overlooking City Hall. He said there were about 200 people at the protest around 3PM. When I got there at 8PM (on a Thursday night, mind you), I was amazed at the number of people that were there. I heard later that over 1000 people showed up to the planning meeting, and thousands over the course of the day had come and gone to the protest.

Upon entering the protest, I was caught off guard by a sign held by someone at the entrance: "Since when was socialism a bad thing?" However, on the other side of the entrance were Ron Paul signs. Some people held up anti-corporate greed signs, some had anti-war signs.

While there, I saw people of all genders, races, and political beliefs. Most of the organizers of the protest seemed to be "community organizers" - whatever that means to you. To me, they seemed like hippies - the ones who shouted to love each other.

One thing that I did not see were anti-occupation signs. There was no counter-protest. Every other protest I have been to in the past 6 years there has always been a counter-protest. ALWAYS. Even the anti-war protests have counter-protests! Not here, though.

One thing I took away from the way people were talking, was that there is not meant to be a message yet. There is no platform. The protests and occupations are meant to be the first step towards a true democratic platform - a public square for all ideas to be discussed and deliberated. The ones shouting directions said that we are not going to make any demands until we know what those demands are, and the only way to find that out is to get together and TALK.

After the organizers spoke, the crowd broke off into smaller groups. In a group discussing the benefits of obtaining a permit I heard someone say "We need to remember why we're here - to fight against the federal government and corporate greed. We should not say that the Tea Party is what we're against. They're part of the 99% too. They're not evil, they're just misguided and ill-informed. We need to confront their leaders, not the Tea Partiers themselves."

Although this and the Occupy Wall Street protests may have been started and promoted by the groups mentioned previously on this forum, I do not see their political beliefs reaching into the discussions beyond them speaking their mind. There were HUNDREDS of people there, all of them having their own thoughts about what the government should be. Many were idealistic, but all of them had ideas. Some even discussed the shadow government, aliens, 9/11 Truth, and ending the drug wars.

The police presence at City Hall was next to nothing. Mayor Nutter came out in support of the protest and gave the go-ahead for the protesters to use City Hall as their base of operations. We had the best response by police I've seen so far. We must remember that they are part of the 99% as well, but they still have to do their job. So far, it's peaceful.

"If you are afraid of being arrested, do not let that fear of doing
something cause you to do nothing." ~Occupy Philly Protester

[link to occupywallst.org]

"Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands."

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And thanks for your support!

Protesting gets nothing accolished
We have to work with the system
This is what america is all about
Would you want to be punshished for being sucessful?

I'm in good company here!

TEA party is against the wall street tards.

We will never join you nor support you.

Wall Street tards are Communist, Socialist and anarchist.

Your occupy game has no solution. Your philosophy is anti- American.

The following is a list of wall street demands. OP if your a wall street tard then your are way off the reservation.
The real wall street tards have no plan and are anti American.


Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.

Protesting gets nothing accolished
We have to work with the system
This is what america is all about
Would you want to be punshished for being sucessful?

While you and others have the "right" intentions and orientation, your lack of experience is causing you to miss a point or two here.

The OP is bearing witness to the truth amongst a group of mostly, but not exclusively, naive and frustrated people.

Their naivete leaves them vulnerable to socialist/communist ideas, if they are not already sold on them already. And as you have so amply demonstrated, the Commies are doing all they can to draw them into the fold.

If the OP can find even one young person who

1.has suffered at the hands of the Pluto-Kleptocrats and their Government/Corporate minions.

2. is sitting on the fence trying to make sense out of who is actually victimizing him and why

The OP may be able to use logic and reason to persuade and convince that person of the truth that you and the OP hold in common.

That restoring a constitutionally limited government will serve to hold corporations to proper capitalist principles that are non-predatory, by restoring a true free market where the people's demand dictates supply and the people's choice determines who remains in business and who fails, thus benefiting us all.

When this occurs, the OP steals a mind from the communists and brings him to the True Constitutionalist Tea Party.

True Tea Partiers must simultaneously corroborate with other tea partiers in the daily affair of principled activities to build a healthy nation and way of living, while also reaching out and fighting for new membership among the disenfranchised and vulnerable.

Or just let the Commies have them to swell their ranks.

Those who are so vehemently and irrationally blasting the OP in the name of all that is good, fail to understand that he is one who is trying to accomplish exactly what I am proposing above. Because their zeal and anger is blinding them from being able to read ops words.

They are on the right side of the debate, but themselves lack the maturity, compassion, and courage of the OP. Hopefully, this post will serve them notice to read more carefully and be less willing to engage their brains before opening their mouths.

This set of demands demonstrates that the individual has no understanding of either economics or finance. Where is all the money coming from especially after the demand of debt forgiveness of made.

[link to occupywallst.org]

"Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands."

I guess you think what we were doing before was working? This is a group that wants to have a discussion between all citizens from all walks of life.

Let the 1% have their say as well, but only allow them 1%.

In other words, fuck off shill. Come up with a better plan and let us all know how you can magically fix everything that's wrong with the world without having public discussions about what's wrong with the world.




Fucked up story? That was a quote from a protester. The misguided Tea Party refers to the CURRENT Tea Party. The ones that we're told by FOX "News" support Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, and Rick Perry. Those people are misguided.

I support the ideas of the Tea Party, personally. Small, limited government with little to no intervention in foreign affairs.

Chill dawg. We can't change things without talking about the problems first :)

If there is no list of demands, why are they protesting, and what are they protesting. If they have no demands, then what are their grievances? I'm sure people would like to know, especially if they are protesting in all the major cities of the U.S. Only children protest without a reason. Are the Occupy Wall Street protesters just children acting out a fantasy, or is there a legitimate reason they are protesting.

Anyone who is part of this movement should explain what their motives are. I would be interested to listen.

Wow, I cannot thank you enough for that post. Right on.

Don't you all see the big picture here?

They WANT us to fight each other. They WANT us to get caught up in Right v Left, Tea Party v Unions, Poor v Rich.

We NEED to remember that THE PEOPLE ARE NOT OUR ENEMIES!

THE GOVERNMENT, THE FRACTIONAL RESERVE MONETARY SYSTEM, THE CORPORATE MEDIA, AND THE LEADERS OF THE LARGE BANKS ARE OUR ENEMIES!

Dude,

You say.....

The TEA party is not evil, they're just misguided and ill-informed. We need to confront their leaders, not the Tea Partiers themselves."



Misguided???????

FUCK YOU!


Don't lump the tea party into your fucked up story.

Frankly, THIS is a far more accurate assessment of the "Occupy" movement than the OP's post.

Obama is not in control. Don't let him think he is.

If there is no list of demands, why are they protesting, and what are they protesting. If they have no demands, then what are their grievances? I'm sure people would like to know, especially if they are protesting in all the major cities of the U.S. Only children protest without a reason. Are the Occupy Wall Street protesters just children acting out a fantasy, or is there a legitimate reason they are protesting.

Anyone who is part of this movement should explain what their motives are. I would be interested to listen.