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The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...

 
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The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Since it's such a big deal, you might as well get it right...right?



From: [link to www.remnantofyhwh.com]
The 'J' Didn't Exist

One of the most obvious reasons that "Jesus" and "Jehovah" are incorrect is found in their common initial letter, J. Most comprehensive dictionaries and encyclopedias demonstrate that the letter J is of recent derivation. The Encyclopedia Americana contains the following on the J:

The form of J was unknown in any alphabet until the 14th century. Either symbol (J,I) used initially generally had the consonantal sound of Y as in year. Gradually, the two symbols (J,l) were differentiated, the J usually acquiring consonantal force and thus becoming regarded as a consonant, and the I becoming a vowel. It was not until 1630 that the differentiation became general in England.

And the Son's Name?

From a study of the origin of letters that make up the word "Jesus" in our English Bibles, we can readily see that the name of the Savior underwent considerable change as it was brought from one language to another.

The name of the Redeemer of Israel, who has the only name through which man can find salvation (Acts 4:12), has been given a Latinized hybrid name that never existed in Hebrew and did not exist in English until 500 years ago.
Clearly, the name of the Savior was changed from Yahsha, through contraction, to Joshua. Evidence that the Y in His name took on the J is found in Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, where translators of the King James Version inserted "Jesus" when Joshua (Yahsha), the son of Nun, was meant.

As with the Father's Name, numerous sources easily available attest that the Name Yahsha is incorrectly rendered "Jesus."

You got that.......right? "Jesus" came into existence only 500 years ago.



Why? Why would the Son's name be changed? What did the original name mean? It directly meant God Saves...what does modern Christianity say? Jesus saves.

Looking at the set up of the mythos of Jesus in Christianity and i can see very clearly the dragon with lambs horns deceiving the world, of Revelation.

Since of impeccable self-righteousness? Dragon. Since of privilege over other? Dragon. Joy in condemning "sinners"? Dragon.


Want to know what the anti Christ is? It's "The Jesus" put in-front of the Christ And all the false stories wrapped around a Living Truth. To make you less and faulty, and The Son on an unreachable pedestal (of death ironically)

Such demonstrable God Reality at the time had to be hijacked and twisted as it could in no ways be denied.

Belief must give way to Truth so that true faith may do it's work in us...so that we may step into fruition as Yahsha demonstrated and invited us to. The apostles walked as he was and did miracles too....

Ultimately God is a spirit and those who worship Him/Her, worship in spirit.

There is a time for names, and then there's a time to shut the hell up so that you may receive your new one!


hf everyone....be good to each other.

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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Your title is abit misleading but that's cool.

That explains why some refer to him as "Yeshua".
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Your title is abit misleading but that's cool.

That explains why some refer to him as "Yeshua".
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That's why Jesus is in quotes.

But if that's wrong, what about everything else associated with "Jesus"?
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Your title is abit misleading but that's cool.

That explains why some refer to him as "Yeshua".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396690

That's why Jesus is in quotes.

But if that's wrong, what about everything else associated with "Jesus"?
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


you need too change the title to " The name Jesus...." I gave you one star before i realized what you were trying to say.
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i'm still at olimpic and i have seen the plaster stich getting quaked on earth btw.


eeh o cool so he got his way with a smaller letter or something.



strange indeed only 500 years ago with a larger and better alphabeth
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you need too change the title to " The name Jesus...." I gave you one star before i realized what you were trying to say.
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The other point I'm trying to make is that it's much more than that as "Jesus" has be turned into it's own entity/story and is the wool pulled over christian eyes.

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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Your title is abit misleading but that's cool.

That explains why some refer to him as "Yeshua".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1396690

That's why Jesus is in quotes.

But if that's wrong, what about everything else associated with "Jesus"?
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


you need too change the title to " The name Jesus...." I gave you one star before i realized what you were trying to say.
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oh ehm yes it wasnt a long haired bum if you look at the west coast that you only see on googleskie.
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
i'm still at olimpic and i have seen the plaster stich getting quaked on earth btw.


eeh o cool so he got his way with a smaller letter or something.



strange indeed only 500 years ago with a larger and better alphabeth
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Olaf, the ever enigmatic, how fair you today?
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Since it's such a big deal, you might as well get it right...right?



From: [link to www.remnantofyhwh.com]
The 'J' Didn't Exist

One of the most obvious reasons that "Jesus" and "Jehovah" are incorrect is found in their common initial letter, J. Most comprehensive dictionaries and encyclopedias demonstrate that the letter J is of recent derivation. The Encyclopedia Americana contains the following on the J:

The form of J was unknown in any alphabet until the 14th century. Either symbol (J,I) used initially generally had the consonantal sound of Y as in year. Gradually, the two symbols (J,l) were differentiated, the J usually acquiring consonantal force and thus becoming regarded as a consonant, and the I becoming a vowel. It was not until 1630 that the differentiation became general in England.

And the Son's Name?

From a study of the origin of letters that make up the word "Jesus" in our English Bibles, we can readily see that the name of the Savior underwent considerable change as it was brought from one language to another.

The name of the Redeemer of Israel, who has the only name through which man can find salvation (Acts 4:12), has been given a Latinized hybrid name that never existed in Hebrew and did not exist in English until 500 years ago.
Clearly, the name of the Savior was changed from Yahsha, through contraction, to Joshua. Evidence that the Y in His name took on the J is found in Acts 7:45 and Hebrews 4:8, where translators of the King James Version inserted "Jesus" when Joshua (Yahsha), the son of Nun, was meant.

As with the Father's Name, numerous sources easily available attest that the Name Yahsha is incorrectly rendered "Jesus."

You got that.......right? "Jesus" came into existence only 500 years ago.



Why? Why would the Son's name be changed? What did the original name mean? It directly meant God Saves...what does modern Christianity say? Jesus saves.

Looking at the set up of the mythos of Jesus in Christianity and i can see very clearly the dragon with lambs horns deceiving the world, of Revelation.

Since of impeccable self-righteousness? Dragon. Since of privilege over other? Dragon. Joy in condemning "sinners"? Dragon.


Want to know what the anti Christ is? It's "The Jesus" put in-front of the Christ And all the false stories wrapped around a Living Truth. To make you less and faulty, and The Son on an unreachable pedestal (of death ironically)

Such demonstrable God Reality at the time had to be hijacked and twisted as it could in no ways be denied.

Belief must give way to Truth so that true faith may do it's work in us...so that we may step into fruition as Yahsha demonstrated and invited us to. The apostles walked as he was and did miracles too....

Ultimately God is a spirit and those who worship Him/Her, worship in spirit.

There is a time for names, and then there's a time to shut the hell up so that you may receive your new one!


hf everyone....be good to each other.
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


stfu
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Awwwwww, is the bread of Truth to hard to swallow? You can go back to the milk....and suck it! chuckle

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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Questions, comments, concerns?


Surely somebody out there in GLP land finds this relevant....
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Those who seek Jesus at the gates shall be denied.

Those who know the true name shall receive Salvation.
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
i'm still at olimpic and i have seen the plaster stich getting quaked on earth btw.


eeh o cool so he got his way with a smaller letter or something.



strange indeed only 500 years ago with a larger and better alphabeth
 Quoting: olaf 2868864

Olaf, the ever enigmatic, how fair you today?
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


eh fine not close to perfect tough.

the state still ows me money and stuff and those orange people parked at the patato shop again and...wel im typing and in the meanwhile...


and .... to be down to earth and honest.
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Those who seek Jesus at the gates shall be denied.

Those who know the true name shall receive Salvation.
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Interesting....so you think it's the same set up only with a different name? All you need is the magic "spell"?
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i still don't ask how are you anywayayay.
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eh ifeelangrysometimes...sigh and euh.... no..... ehmm.......no i don't know why actualy.
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I do not respond to egregores...
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eh ifeelangrysometimes...sigh and euh.... no..... ehmm.......no i don't know why actualy.
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i still don't ask how are you anywayayay.
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I'm fine, thanks for not asking... 1dunno1
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
has been given a Latinized hybrid name that never existed in Hebrew and did not exist in English until 500 years ago

WOW THE LEVEL OF STUPIDITY IN THIS FORUM NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE

JESU =JOSHUA =YEHOSHUA
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Surely you are correct and 1/3 of the world's population is wrong.

The Antichrist comes near the end times, and we are all still here.

The Antichrist does not preach a message of love, sacrificing your life for your friends, and turning the other cheek.

"A" for creativity though.
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has been given a Latinized hybrid name that never existed in Hebrew and did not exist in English until 500 years ago

WOW THE LEVEL OF STUPIDITY IN THIS FORUM NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE

JESU =JOSHUA =YEHOSHUA
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2827959

Right, so why isn't the original name, the one everyone called him by when he was alive, used in Christianity today?

I find the level of you completely missing the point is disturbing...
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Surely you are correct and 1/3 of the world's population is wrong.

The Antichrist comes near the end times, and we are all still here.

The Antichrist does not preach a message of love, sacrificing your life for your friends, and turning the other cheek.

"A" for creativity though.
 Quoting: Rambaldi

On this, yes, yes I am correct. Jesus was not called Jesus when he was alive.

The antichrist is also many.....do you know what an egregore is?

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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Surely you are correct and 1/3 of the world's population is wrong.

The Antichrist comes near the end times, and we are all still here.

The Antichrist does not preach a message of love, sacrificing your life for your friends, and turning the other cheek.

"A" for creativity though.
 Quoting: Rambaldi

On this I am right, as are many other historical scholars....


The anti-chrsit is also many....do you know what an egregore is?
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Of course not, they didn't even have the letter "J" back then.

Doesn't matter what his "name" was. He was certainly not the Antichrist.

Egregore: synergistic thought; the group mind that is formed when many minds come together...kind of like The Borg...lol.
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Dude, you're trying to use logic on religious people. Not gonna work.
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Surely you are correct and 1/3 of the world's population is wrong.

The Antichrist comes near the end times, and we are all still here.

The Antichrist does not preach a message of love, sacrificing your life for your friends, and turning the other cheek.

"A" for creativity though.
 Quoting: Rambaldi

On this, yes, yes I am correct. Jesus was not called Jesus when he was alive.

The antichrist is also many.....do you know what an egregore is?
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex



..."An egregore is a kind of group mind which is created when people consciously come together for a common purpose. Whenever people gather together to do something and egregore is formed, but unless an attempt is made to maintain it deliberately it will dissipate rather quickly. However if the people wish to maintain it and know the techniques of how to do so, the egregore will continue to grow in strength and can last for centuries.

An egregore has the characteristic of having an effectiveness greater than the mere sum of its individual members. It continuously interacts with its members, influencing them and being influenced by them. The interaction works positively by stimulating and assisting its members but only as long as they behave and act in line with its original aim. It will stimulate both individually and collectively all those faculties in the group which will permit the realization of the objectives of its original program. If this process is continued a long time the egregore will take on a kind of life of its own, and can become so strong that even if all its members should die, it would continue to exist on the inner dimensions and can be contacted even centuries later by a group of people prepared to live the lives of the original founders, particularly if they are willing to provide the initial input of energy to get it going again.

If the egregore is concerned with spiritual or esoteric activities its influence will be even greater. People who discover the keys can tap in on a powerful egregore representing, for example, a spiritual or esoteric tradition, will, if they follow the line described above by activating and maintaining such an egregore, obtain access to the abilities, knowledge, and drive of all that has been accumulated in that egregore since its beginnings. Agroup ororder which manages to do this can, with a clear conscience, claim to be an authentic order of the tradition represented by that egregore. In my view this is the only yardstick by which a genuine Templar order should be measured."
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Re: The name "Jesus" didn't exist until 500 years ago...
Of course not, they didn't even have the letter "J" back then.

Doesn't matter what his "name" was. He was certainly not the Antichrist.

Egregore: synergistic thought; the group mind that is formed when many minds come together...kind of like The Borg...lol.
 Quoting: Rambaldi

I'm not saying the man who lived was the antichrist, quite the contrary. The Man who lived was a walking Son of God.

I'm saying the story we've been sold is the antichrist....and if enough people put their energy into it they will "create it"

As an egregore....and that manifestation might very well be what TPTB are looking for to try and fully seize the mind of humanity....
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Surely somebody out there in GLP land finds this relevant....
 Quoting: Xisuthros Rex


Those who seek Jesus at the gates shall be denied.

Those who know the true name shall receive Salvation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2871243


I hate platitudes. What does that mean? Realy, I want to know.

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