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How to Disappear so that No One will Find YOU!

 
Brie217
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How to Disappear so that No One will Find YOU!
There are many reasons you might want to disappear, some honorable some not so honorable. Maybe you have a stalker or you would like more privacy, maybe you are avoiding domestic violence or identity theft... whatever the reason is here are a few tips that will help you do just that.

"How to Disappear"
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This is reasonable advice. However, it won't make you disappear just harder to track. There are several good books on the subject, but most of the info is outdated in this post-9/11 world.
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This is reasonable advice. However, it won't make you disappear just harder to track. There are several good books on the subject, but most of the info is outdated in this post-9/11 world.
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Well, like I said in the article if we are talking "Enemy of the State" levels you are right and I mentioned that if that is the case you need more information than what I can provide.
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Re: he mentions the cell phone. If you have to flee, give you cell phone to a homeless person. Maybe put him on a bus or train in the opposite direction you're fleeing.
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This is reasonable advice. However, it won't make you disappear just harder to track. There are several good books on the subject, but most of the info is outdated in this post-9/11 world.
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Well, like I said in the article if we are talking "Enemy of the State" levels you are right and I mentioned that if that is the case you need more information than what I can provide.
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Oh and it's good for that, no question. Getting a true new identity, that's a slippery slope. It's the sort of thing that can land you in the federal pen.
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Rango.
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This is reasonable advice. However, it won't make you disappear just harder to track. There are several good books on the subject, but most of the info is outdated in this post-9/11 world.
 Quoting: AmericanJedi


Well, like I said in the article if we are talking "Enemy of the State" levels you are right and I mentioned that if that is the case you need more information than what I can provide.
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Oh and it's good for that, no question. Getting a true new identity, that's a slippery slope. It's the sort of thing that can land you in the federal pen.
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True, which is why I suggested leaving the country altogether if that is the situation.
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If you have to flee, give you cell phone to a homeless person. Maybe put him on a bus or train in the opposite direction you're fleeing.
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Hilarious! Imagine the situation...
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OP, I always find your threads both interesting and informative.

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It was suggested to me by police to leave the area I was living in after domestic abuse.

I said no way, why the heck should I leave. With the help of friends, we instead drummed him out of town.

The only way I would disappear is if I was a witness to something beyond my control and even then I am a stubborn Taurus, so probably not.

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10/08/2011 09:26 AM
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Writer Evan Ratliff Tried to Vanish: Here’s What Happened
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10/08/2011 09:29 AM
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This article is one giant facepalm, obviously written by a young kid.

Stuff like "Don't get any mail sent to you" and "call yourself a different name". Duh.

Nothing useful whatsoever.
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It was suggested to me by police to leave the area I was living in after domestic abuse.

I said no way, why the heck should I leave. With the help of friends, we instead drummed him out of town.

The only way I would disappear is if I was a witness to something beyond my control and even then I am a stubborn Taurus, so probably not.
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WTF? Like, you and some friends set up drums outside his house or what? Is this a small town Canadian thing?
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With those access checks you get from your credit cards, write yourself a check for about $10,000 (or whatever you credit limit is), and go to the bank and get it all in cash. Then, drive into Mexico, swap your car, and then disappear in some Mexican city...$10K will go a *long* way there.

I haven't done this...but I contemplated it in 2005.
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It was suggested to me by police to leave the area I was living in after domestic abuse.

I said no way, why the heck should I leave. With the help of friends, we instead drummed him out of town.

The only way I would disappear is if I was a witness to something beyond my control and even then I am a stubborn Taurus, so probably not.
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WTF? Like, you and some friends set up drums outside his house or what? Is this a small town Canadian thing?
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..........wow
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This article is one giant facepalm, obviously written by a young kid.

Stuff like "Don't get any mail sent to you" and "call yourself a different name". Duh.

Nothing useful whatsoever.
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yes, this asshole is just trying to drive traffic to her blog.

i posted a comment to remind her that she sucks
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Here's a leading kit if you want to fully disappear...

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There are hundreds of thousands of people living "off the grid", they are called homeless people!

A lot of people bought desert property and put mobile homes on them and used alternative power and resources to live "off the grid" in California but the authorities weren't having any of that so they had their land taken away from them using vague laws.

The best way to disappear is to move to another country such as Costa Rica. I am retired and lived there for two years. You pay cash for every thing and therefore you live "off the grid".

Otherwise you will have to live like a homeless person which for most people is extremely difficult to do. You have to be a Rambo to tolerate what homeless people tolerate to live outdoors 365 days of the year.
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It was suggested to me by police to leave the area I was living in after domestic abuse.

I said no way, why the heck should I leave. With the help of friends, we instead drummed him out of town.

The only way I would disappear is if I was a witness to something beyond my control and even then I am a stubborn Taurus, so probably not.
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Drumming is a powerful thing, it is amazing what one can accomplish with the mind.

WTF? Like, you and some friends set up drums outside his house or what? Is this a small town Canadian thing?
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..........wow
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It was suggested to me by police to leave the area I was living in after domestic abuse.

I said no way, why the heck should I leave. With the help of friends, we instead drummed him out of town.

The only way I would disappear is if I was a witness to something beyond my control and even then I am a stubborn Taurus, so probably not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442220


Drumming is a powerful thing, it is amazing what one can accomplish with the mind.

WTF? Like, you and some friends set up drums outside his house or what? Is this a small town Canadian thing?
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..........wow
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2890945

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1442220


Drumming is a powerful thing, it is amazing what one can accomplish with the mind.
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This is a true story. No bullshit.
Everyone knows I'm PI by now...who's heard of me.
Before PI and Fireman, I was a Stateville/Joliet, IL. C.O. back in the 80s. That's a whole other story.
So a couple years ago, I get a Yahoo IM chat request from an ex-Army Officer, Special Forces, Ranger, Lieutenant.

His questions, "what's Stateville Correctional like?" It was on my CV on my website and somehow he Googled it.....and Stateville CO returned his search on me. Weird.
So the Ex-Ranger was concerned because HE WAS GOING TO BE SENT TO Stateville for Domestic Abuse on his wife.

So we sort of developed a friendship. He wouldn't tell me who he was. I didn't ask. That was the agreement.

As time got closer to his final conviction, he said "I'm not going to jail. They'll kill me in there. It's a death sentence." He told me, I'm going to "GO SOUTH."

So, that's what he did. His parents gave him a lot of money. He said he got his new identity from ex-spooks from the Military who sell new identities for people to ex-patriot to flee from prosecution, mostly.

He said, THEY SAID, that's the biggest reason for ex-patriation. It cost him around 8,000.00 and he said THEY SAID.....it was a good identity UNLIKE other ID sellers who sell the same ID repeatedly.

He said they find a child who died early and didn't lay down any tracks. They dedupe his Birth Cert and SOMEHOW get his SSN., then a Passport, Driver's License, and several other forms of picture ID with various makeup effects so it doesn't look like the same photo was used at the same time. Then some credit cards or lines of credit were to come later....very slowly as he was trying on his new Identity.

So the ex-Ranger got his IDs pretty quickly. Within about 2 weeks. He kissed his parents goodby and drove to Mexico on his new Identity from that moment on.

His stories of his Mexico travels were amazing. Hiding in his Hotel room for days on end thinking everyone was chasing him or would turn him in. The seperation from his parents/family. It was pretty crazy..the transition to a new ID and country for the ex-Ranger.

But then after about 2 months, he traveled on down through Mexico and got hooked up with a Kidnapping ring. They kidnapped young people for ransome and held them until someone paid. Usually parents, spouses and business partners.

At that point, I had to stop communicating with him. It got very gruesome and like the movie SAW and a Horror story....and I broke off communication.

He said the Mexican police protected his boss. His boss paid off the Police. The deal was, his boss didn't bring heat to the police, paid them and everything would be just fine.

End of story.

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It seems to me that this film is a great instruction, and to complement our knowledge on methods of surveillance and avoid it.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Can anyone embeded it, all 6 parts.?
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It seems to me that this film is a great instruction, and to complement our knowledge on methods of surveillance and avoid it.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Can anyone embeded it, all 6 parts.?
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Now thats what I'm talking about!
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OP, I always find your threads both interesting and informative.

hf
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Thanks Lisa, I'm Glad.hf
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It seems to me that this film is a great instruction, and to complement our knowledge on methods of surveillance and avoid it.

[link to video.godlikeproductions.com]

Can anyone embeded it, all 6 parts.?
 Quoting: code 1725052


Here you go, people can get the other 5 on You Tube:




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If you have to flee, give you cell phone to a homeless person. Maybe put him on a bus or train in the opposite direction you're fleeing.
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applause2

Hilarious! Imagine the situation...
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yeah funny
Do your absolute best and the rest is fate.
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Re: he mentions the cell phone. If you have to flee, give you cell phone to a homeless person. Maybe put him on a bus or train in the opposite direction you're fleeing.
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If you needed to flee and you owned a cell phone recently, your done.

The US has a massive frame that analyzes the noises from every active phone 24/7.

Once they "know" your voice, if you so much as whispered by another phone then you are busted.
Do your absolute best and the rest is fate.
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If you're truly trying to disappear, you can't have a cell phone...what a moron.

They can triangulate on the signal and you're screwed. You could get a Trac phone, but the minute you call somebody you know, you are exposing yourself.

Another fact; many tires these days, have RFID chips embedded as does much packaging of foods. Also, tear the GPS and On-Star out of your car. Close all email accounts and any other online accounts, except Facebook. Use it for disinformation (from a library computer).

It all depends on how much you want to "disappear".
I only believe half of what I read and even half of that is bullshit.
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Re: he mentions the cell phone. If you have to flee, give you cell phone to a homeless person. Maybe put him on a bus or train in the opposite direction you're fleeing.
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If you needed to flee and you owned a cell phone recently, your done.

The US has a massive frame that analyzes the noises from every active phone 24/7.

Once they "know" your voice, if you so much as whispered by another phone then you are busted.
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What if you alter your voice?
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Re: he mentions the cell phone. If you have to flee, give you cell phone to a homeless person. Maybe put him on a bus or train in the opposite direction you're fleeing.
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If you needed to flee and you owned a cell phone recently, your done.

The US has a massive frame that analyzes the noises from every active phone 24/7.

Once they "know" your voice, if you so much as whispered by another phone then you are busted.
 Quoting: Voltaic Manifestation


Right. They can do this for 300 some MILLION people. Okay, got it.

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