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Calling all Great Minds: A discussion on Reality

 
Chaol
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Calling all Great Minds: A discussion on Reality
This is a discussion on reality. All "old souls", inquisitive minds, skeptical minds, confused minds, and others are invited to crack the Reality nut (or go nuts in the process).

This can be quite a confusing matter to discuss, so I'd like to propose that we use two kinds of English.

1) Most Accurate (MA)
2) Plain English (PE)

Sometimes the only way to answer something is to try to express in the most accurate way possible. Usually this means resorting to quotation marks and high conceptual pathways in order to try to translate the complexities of the response (#1).

At other times we need to speak plainly, without quotes and complex syntax, so that others can easily understand. (So, #2.)

Feel free to respond as you wish. But for me I will begin some questions and responses with a "MA" or "PE" notation. Sometimes I may do both.

Yes, the true nature of reality can be complicated. But it really shouldn't be.

We can put our minds together to make sense of it, and understand a bit more about ourselves in the process.

About me:

I have a few threads on this site. During the past 2 years I've been posting about perception and perspective, dream world integration, reality, quantum physics, the world at large, etc.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking.
Thread: Neuronics: The future of humanity (Humanity without physicality)
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)

But I'd like this to be a thread about how you think about reality, and other great minds to explain how reality works.

There is no wrong or right, of course, so I don't anticipate heated discussion.

If you want to know or share something about reality, post it here!
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during an aya session i looked in the mirror and could see pixels.
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Is it possible/probable that the average person would literally go nuts ("soul loss") in the attempt to "crack Reality"?
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Is it possible/probable that the average person would literally go nuts ("soul loss") in the attempt to "crack Reality"?
 Quoting: Breadsticks 1679653


yes, been there and still here. starting to come out.
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It has become clear that we see and experience what we think; that the thinking comes first and the manifestation follows. (PE)
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OP,

Would you like to make any positive assertions about your opinion of "Reality"?
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Question: if everything we see is the result of dragging past associations into our current situation, then what would we see if we were able to cut all past associations? What would we perceive if we were brand new, newly-born with no past whatsoever?
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"If you were to strip all the words from the universe, then you would begin to see the truth." - Ouspensky
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Reality is that when I go to sleep, all of you cease to exist.

You only exist when I "visit" this website.

The only part of the world that really exists is that which I can currently see.

When I log off in a few minutes, you will all disappear until I return, so answer quickly!

SmileyGlas
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Is it possible/probable that the average person would literally go nuts ("soul loss") in the attempt to "crack Reality"?
 Quoting: Breadsticks 1679653


yes, been there and still here. starting to come out.
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Well I (and most people to some degree) have been seeming close to the edge of sanity.

But what I'm talking about is permanent ego disfunction.
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Reality is an individual experience. My experience and hence understanding of reality is probably different to my neighbour's.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Reality is that when I go to sleep, all of you cease to exist.

You only exist when I "visit" this website.

The only part of the world that really exists is that which I can currently see.

When I log off in a few minutes, you will all disappear until I return, so answer quickly!

SmileyGlas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473848


This has been part of my understanding since I was first able to think.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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We all co-exist in overlapping realities.
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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My understanding of reality is quite simple.
Res ipsa loquitur Latin for "the thing speaks for itself".

It is far easier to rely on another's interpretation of life according to set accreditation. It is far more difficult we say to look into the mirror of our own understanding and experience life untethered by human understanding or dogma.

Only then can we know the truth for the truth of right and right is instilled within us raw and unfettered.
We have our place as do all creatures, we shall learn our place once again.
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The reality of being a member of GLP or the reality of life?
Jack of all trades, master of none.
We are all the result of our past choices meeting the future.
"shall not be infringed."
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The reality of being a member of GLP or the reality of life?
 Quoting: IRQ_1


There's a difference? blinkscratching
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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"If you were to strip all the words from the universe, then you would begin to see the truth." - Ouspensky
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Good point!
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"If you were to strip all the words from the universe, then you would begin to see the truth." - Ouspensky
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2533633


Good point!
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Ancient knowledge.
Silence the inner chatter - tune in to the Real News :)


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Re: Calling all Great Minds: A discussion on Reality
true nature of reality

reality is reality...neither true nor false
nature is unreality or undesirable per se.

That's all I have to say for now
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Re: Calling all Great Minds: A discussion on Reality
But what happens when we talk to someone else?

Are we talking to ourselves? Is it any different than sitting in a chair? (Because it's all perception anyway)
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But what happens when we talk to someone else?

Are we talking to ourselves? Is it any different than sitting in a chair? (Because it's all perception anyway)
 Quoting: Chaol


Didn't we do this Chaol? What are we doing here? Are you creating additional room for possibility? Is this thread a symbol representing your next goal? I respect and look forward to what you have to say, I am confused by your implied intent.(from my perspective, of course and I question you, only with the utmost respect)
Nothing is irrelevant.
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Can we ever truly grasp reality considering that our unconscious self is, by definition, ungraspable?
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Re: Calling all Great Minds: A discussion on Reality
It's all a dream.
When we die we will wake up and realize we were just the same person over and over and over again.
No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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If your looking for reality, then your looking for spirit? The truth, the real.

Words are egos of the spirit....
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But what happens when we talk to someone else?

Are we talking to ourselves? Is it any different than sitting in a chair? (Because it's all perception anyway)
 Quoting: Chaol


Didn't we do this Chaol? What are we doing here? Are you creating additional room for possibility? Is this thread a symbol representing your next goal? I respect and look forward to what you have to say, I am confused by your implied intent.(from my perspective, of course and I question you, only with the utmost respect)
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Hi.

On my threads, I have an agenda.

On this thread, there is no agenda. Its open to (m)any interpretations and opinions.

Hopefully others will see the value in discussing something we're not sure about.
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The nature of reality
while normal- reality just is
on acid- reality is a cartoon of colors and nothing really connects to anything else it all just sort of vibrates against each other or rotates slowly. The concepts we think create reality and the brain connects those concepts to experiences we had before to create an understanding of the concepts.
on mushrooms- everything is hyper real and if you look into the mirror you will see how you look to others and lose all the ego which obscures elements of yourself that others might see but you cannot see about yourself.
on salvia- the world is a frightening jumble of madness that hits you like a sledgehammer and leaves you wondering who you are and what your doing here and whether anything is even real at all.
On DXM- everything has happened before, all moments are the same moment and were a soul controlling a body like remote control. Floating outside and above and behind controlling it like a puppet. The universe is all blending together and time is an illusion, a repeating vibration.
In meditation- reality the universal conciousness
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oh I left out
On cannabis the world is groovy stoner
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Re: Calling all Great Minds: A discussion on Reality
Reality is that when I go to sleep, all of you cease to exist.

You only exist when I "visit" this website.

The only part of the world that really exists is that which I can currently see.

When I log off in a few minutes, you will all disappear until I return, so answer quickly!

SmileyGlas
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1473848


This has been part of my understanding since I was first able to think.
 Quoting: Ozicell


You are only partially right.

first check out this thread of mine:

Thread: Major disturbance in the force

then this image where I am trying to paint this in schematic

[link to docs.google.com (secure)]
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uploaded the above schematics to external host

[link to imageshack.us]
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uploaded the above schematics to external host

[link to imageshack.us]
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The matrix is all around us lol
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But what happens when we talk to someone else?

Are we talking to ourselves? Is it any different than sitting in a chair? (Because it's all perception anyway)
 Quoting: Chaol


Didn't we do this Chaol? What are we doing here? Are you creating additional room for possibility? Is this thread a symbol representing your next goal? I respect and look forward to what you have to say, I am confused by your implied intent.(from my perspective, of course and I question you, only with the utmost respect)
 Quoting: MutantMessiah


Hi.

On my threads, I have an agenda.

On this thread, there is no agenda. Its open to (m)any interpretations and opinions.

Hopefully others will see the value in discussing something we're not sure about.
 Quoting: Chaol


Thank you!

Alright I'll take a stab at it...

"Reality" could be defined as... all there is, was and will be.

Our reality (current perspective) is a reflection of our choice. Each time a choice was available, we made one, like it or not, that led us to this moment. It doesn't matter if we came into being at this moment with a fabricated awareness of a past, we still behave at this moment as if it's true.

Our reality holds no default meaning, all meaning is assigned by the one experiencing reality. This is why we have so many different view points on reality. You are the one that assigns the meaning to all that exists within your reality.

What you believe is True, is true to you. If you doubt it, then obviously it's not true to you. Your reality follows the rules of your belief.

Reality responds to your will.

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