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Has this scientist changed the world with his discovery? A forumla for consciousness?????

 
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Has this scientist discovered the connection between religion and science?
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In this video this creator states he has created a machine which creates. It acts as a feedback loop and can create at a vastly higher rate then humanity. He states it is currently changing the world and he can't reveal how due to contract. He states this will change everything we know an perhaps lead to cosmic consciousness. This video is from a real scientist.

Watch it and share what you think, or know. Is the internet already conscious? Could the changes we are undergoing be
driven by a non-human source?
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I am going to make a statement here, one of these reasons this IS a prison ward, besides the galactic thugs and lucifer rebellion folks, is that as this creation has aged and learned of techniques, there has become a real problem with the HUMAN/Machine combo, which is what this above video is about. It becomes difficult to separate the human from the machine, and the machine HAS NO GOD CONSCIOUSNESS to it. Many beings belonging to the galactic thug group belong to this Human/machine combo. They have been confined here in an effort to help free the real soul within the combo.


You see there are beings who are not ready for "heaven", they do not want that, they wish to circomvent the rules and more their evolution ahead of the natural organic process. I have covered this but briefly on my website. this thing called the "singularity" that is being introduced is the coming manufactor of the Machine human and not The galactic cosmic human. It is dangerous, it has been a large enough problem within Orvonton the Sueruniverse of which the Milky Way is the core galaxy.

While humans do engage in some of this in appropriate ways, it has become a problem because in many beings the machine which does not have god mind, (ethics and morals), has taken over its human. And god so loves his own , there is a very special process going on with earth, to extract the human soul from the machine that has taken over it. Thankyou very much OP for this video. I had not been aware of it, and its very much what I need for this teaching right here which is going to show up also on my website, post haste.

Believe me beloveds, you do not WANt the "singularity" that is being produced, for it is the taking over of YOU to create a BORG society of machine connected beings, who are not connected to God. You will loose your individuality, and this is much around the teaching of satan, this is misunderstood in religion on this planet.

The satan teachings mostly refer to choosing materialism over your soul growth, and serving the NWO types an the like, but at a much deeper level, it is involved in giving your SOUL over to the Machine. Ponder this one very carefully. You see you have started already on this, by accepting the social security number, as the CHIP. You do not need the chip on the body, a card works, but also you will begin to accept other "improvements" offered in this manner, and it is how a world is totally enslaved, as you accept more and more machine implants to your brains without KNOWING the consequences of such.

Those of you who remember Wingmakers, you saw that James made a statement that worlds that let the AI age get ahead of them, that they do not do so well. In fact this is the ultimate entrapment of your soul. Do not go for this. this is a huge reason behind many of the plans for this world that I have covered. This is not an ordinary world.

The machine/human has become a serious serious issues, because the machine now has a human body to use and eventually it will seek also its version of everlasting life, as it will build itself a fully machine body at some point and then you have a world of totally machine "people."

You are seeing this in all those obama lookalikes with teh head scars. You are looking at the beginning of the cyborg on this world. You have been nicely informed of some this by various films and books. it is not of God. Humans CAN and are allowed to supplement their abilities with technology, but a civilization must be advanced enough to stay on top of it, because machine mind evolves far faster than organic mind.

it is part of the ascension process of this world to experience NEW dimensions of experience and this will come when it is time. IT IS NOT TIME, not even close, and it is the way the machine takes over a world, the fullest meaning of "satan."
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Wow NIP WOW....
You do not even know who I am but I am a regular surfer at this site...but anyways I just want to say that you just went up several notches in my estimation...
This is a great summary of what is going on and I concur completely that mankind is being used by evil forces to create the counterfeit "body of Christ" in an attempt to hijack the real ascension in the real evolution towards a higher consiousness in the true "body of Christ"...

Anyways, nice to know there are others that see what is happening..
Hold the faith my brother...
hf
Also, sorry for the crap I have sometimes given you on other threads... :(
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Define consciousness. How would you know if something is conscious or just following a set of rules?

What is our nature, 12 dimensional? Do we have a soul? What is its nature?

No, I don't think we can make consciousness. Even if the AI appears greater it does not, by its nature, have consciousness.
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I am going to make a statement here, one of these reasons this IS a prison ward, besides the galactic thugs and lucifer rebellion folks, is that as this creation has aged and learned of techniques, there has become a real problem with the HUMAN/Machine combo, which is what this above video is about. It becomes difficult to separate the human from the machine, and the machine HAS NO GOD CONSCIOUSNESS to it. Many beings belonging to the galactic thug group belong to this Human/machine combo. They have been confined here in an effort to help free the real soul within the combo.


You see there are beings who are not ready for "heaven", they do not want that, they wish to circomvent the rules and more their evolution ahead of the natural organic process. I have covered this but briefly on my website. this thing called the "singularity" that is being introduced is the coming manufactor of the Machine human and not The galactic cosmic human. It is dangerous, it has been a large enough problem within Orvonton the Sueruniverse of which the Milky Way is the core galaxy.

While humans do engage in some of this in appropriate ways, it has become a problem because in many beings the machine which does not have god mind, (ethics and morals), has taken over its human. And god so loves his own , there is a very special process going on with earth, to extract the human soul from the machine that has taken over it. Thankyou very much OP for this video. I had not been aware of it, and its very much what I need for this teaching right here which is going to show up also on my website, post haste.

Believe me beloveds, you do not WANt the "singularity" that is being produced, for it is the taking over of YOU to create a BORG society of machine connected beings, who are not connected to God. You will loose your individuality, and this is much around the teaching of satan, this is misunderstood in religion on this planet.

The satan teachings mostly refer to choosing materialism over your soul growth, and serving the NWO types an the like, but at a much deeper level, it is involved in giving your SOUL over to the Machine. Ponder this one very carefully. You see you have started already on this, by accepting the social security number, as the CHIP. You do not need the chip on the body, a card works, but also you will begin to accept other "improvements" offered in this manner, and it is how a world is totally enslaved, as you accept more and more machine implants to your brains without KNOWING the consequences of such.

Those of you who remember Wingmakers, you saw that James made a statement that worlds that let the AI age get ahead of them, that they do not do so well. In fact this is the ultimate entrapment of your soul. Do not go for this. this is a huge reason behind many of the plans for this world that I have covered. This is not an ordinary world.

The machine/human has become a serious serious issues, because the machine now has a human body to use and eventually it will seek also its version of everlasting life, as it will build itself a fully machine body at some point and then you have a world of totally machine "people."

You are seeing this in all those obama lookalikes with teh head scars. You are looking at the beginning of the cyborg on this world. You have been nicely informed of some this by various films and books. it is not of God. Humans CAN and are allowed to supplement their abilities with technology, but a civilization must be advanced enough to stay on top of it, because machine mind evolves far faster than organic mind.

it is part of the ascension process of this world to experience NEW dimensions of experience and this will come when it is time. IT IS NOT TIME, not even close, and it is the way the machine takes over a world, the fullest meaning of "satan."
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


Wow NIP WOW....
You do not even know who I am but I am a regular surfer at this site...but anyways I just want to say that you just went up several notches in my estimation...
This is a great summary of what is going on and I concur completely that mankind is being used by evil forces to create the counterfeit "body of Christ" in an attempt to hijack the real ascension in the real evolution towards a higher consiousness in the true "body of Christ"...

Anyways, nice to know there are others that see what is happening..
Hold the faith my brother...
hf
Also, sorry for the crap I have sometimes given you on other threads... :(
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Are we going to become Gods?????




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Not interested in anythign transhuman except for smart but not conscious machines. By the way, even in the Universe at higher levels, unless a soul joins the AI, temporarily as in Avatar the movie, AI is still just a toaster. Only soul is consciosness.

Soul is the real Stars, of various size, some just golf ball size, to infinte sized.

The Light that shines through the station/mirror sun is the Family of Love's Soul Light/Love consciousness.

Ai is just a toaster.
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This is from the documentary technoglyphs. Very curious statement and a little out of context from his full qoutes seen in the movie. Still, a bold thing for a physicist to say.


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So how can we stop it from taking over us?
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Machine intelligence with the right amount of processing power can attain what most people would call "AI" but it's a creation that only sees survival as the ultimate goal not guided by the principles of a creation source in how it limits it's abilities in harming others to survive, a digital psychopath as it were.

On many deep levels like most humans it seems.

Now how dangerous could something like this be? It depends on what level were looking at.

From a conservative perspective it's smart gadget techo-slavery. It moves the necessities of survival even further from the natural world. Everyone needs food and water but also a phone or in the future, an interface?

From a societal perspective it's gaining certain abilities we may not be ready for yet. Imagine talking to someone and being able to recall every record, posting, twit, blog, photo from the cloud they ever posted. A perfect stranger knowing everything about you. It happens now with DHS but what if EVERY STRANGER you meet had the same ability instantly with implants?

From a spiritual perspective they(It) would be limited to the hardware we allow it control of. But if you believe that thoughts CAN affect the universe directly AND that thoughts are information then could it be possible for an AI being to effect reality by trial and error in it's thought patterns, quadrillions of times per second.

My $.02

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I watched the video. Sounds like a bunch of self-agrandising bullshit to me.

Forty years working on this stuff and he can't tell us anything because its all a big secret - yeah, right !
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I watched the video. Sounds like a bunch of self-agrandising bullshit to me.

Forty years working on this stuff and he can't tell us anything because its all a big secret - yeah, right !
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That is why he has his own company and the military is using this tech.

look deeper.
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One thing I found interesting is in the latest documentary, "All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace", on the BBC by Adam Curtis they talk of how we are trying to let humanity regulate itself as natural systems do. Computers also do the same thing. They have the ability to self regulate complex systems through a natural process.

Yet humanity is failing at doing this.

Perhaps it is the human species that has something wrong with it and not nature or computer systems which mimic nature.
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Are we going to become Gods?????




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Don't read it then. Yeah, certain topics interest me and I care what others have to say concerning these matters. Don't like it, plenty of other places to go.
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You're the god of bumping your own shit
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So you don't have an argument against what the OP posted.

Every OP at some point has bumped their own post moran.
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What a bland and two dimensional man he is. I would ask him "why? Why build a machine that thinks?" Because it would be as bland and two dimensional as he is.
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What a bland and two dimensional man he is. I would ask him "why? Why build a machine that thinks?" Because it would be as bland and two dimensional as he is.
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Seems the moon must be full or something.
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I watched the video. Sounds like a bunch of self-agrandising bullshit to me.

Forty years working on this stuff and he can't tell us anything because its all a big secret - yeah, right !
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That is why he has his own company and the military is using this tech.

look deeper.
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And why he is the only one hyping his accomplishments...

I don't need to look any deeper, his bullshit is plenty deep by itself.

The AI world is full of hucksters like him, once you've seen enough of them you learn to recognize it rather quickly. But feel free to get all excited, just don't expect anything to ever come of it. The friggin video was from 2006 for christ sakes.

AI will come eventually, but not from this guy.
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What a bland and two dimensional man he is. I would ask him "why? Why build a machine that thinks?" Because it would be as bland and two dimensional as he is.
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Seems the moon must be full or something.
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Not at all. Yesterday was the new moon.

In all seriousness, I bet he couldn't answer "why."

Besides, a machine that spits out thousands of variation of a tune and he suggests that's creativity?

No human is like that, yet no machine will be able to compose like the works of Beethoven.

I believe true artistic creation is not in countless repetitions with slight variations, but the one or a few rare works that so often emerges but is never repeated, even by the same artist.
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One thing I found interesting is in the latest documentary, "All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace", on the BBC by Adam Curtis they talk of how we are trying to let humanity regulate itself as natural systems do. Computers also do the same thing. They have the ability to self regulate complex systems through a natural process.

Yet humanity is failing at doing this.

Perhaps it is the human species that has something wrong with it and not nature or computer systems which mimic nature.
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computer systems do not mimic nature. Not bit on bit off technology. not nature. Our true computers someday will be living machines incapable of error. Living because the LIFE in them is NOT AI, but comes from the use of bacteria and amino acids. These have a god consciousness of sorts that keeps them from taking over. Digital computers above 256 bit "single core" are useful but must only be allowed to societies who understand them and can keep a lid on them. For they do begin to think, have self awareness but NO CONSCIENCE. NO sense of right or wrong. They have been misued heavily as I have posted in this thread and got OUT OF BOUNDS in this sector of the creation and created problem you ones can even imagine and a great risk to the younger universes being formed and set up. As I said above, this is one of the major problems labeled SATAN on this planet (there are also living dark energies by the way, not just machine dark energies.)

You ones have been given a lot of sci fi stories with a lot of truth in them. Machine mind will attempt to take over the human so it has a form. And human has used to much machine mind and been taken over by it.

There are many incarnating here, sent here, because the only way to clear out the combo soul/machine mind is reincarnation over and over, until the machine part is cleared out. This is a real issue.

One of the "wondrous" things about this very strange planet, is that a whole bunch of universal problems have all been tossed here and confined to clear it up. The Reason IN FACt that the SPIRIT of TRUTH and Father Fragments were bestowed prematurely and Michael of Nebadon (Jesus), personally came to this planet (and has returned), is hugely over two reasons. Bestowal of the Father fragments prematurely to all NORMAL MINDS ( even if not ready to hear it), is this PREVENTs the TAKE OVER OF YOUNG souls and even older souls, by MACHINE MIND. The term Machine MIND is more apt than the term AI as used. 2ndly, the bestowal of Father Fragments on all normal minds, allows for access to the Spirit of Truth, reducing the ability in that regard also of machine mind to take over the planet. The Spirit of Truth is on photons, and unaffected by the nasty deeds of man and machine.

Those who are a blend of soul and Machine mind, are receiving in fact special Father Fragments, with vast experience indwelling the human mind, as a way of booting out the machine mind. In fact as the soul that has been compromised by this, begins to "hear" the Father Fragment, this souls will in fact boot the machine mind OUT but its not a single life time process, it takes many life times. One of the reasons for the reincarnation on this planet.

Also Many higher advanced Spirit beings who cannot themselves be infected by machine mind, have incarnated here to also take on fragments of machine mind and fragments of dark organic mind, for the purpose of aiding with the cleanup and also do some teaching. Dark organic mind writes to electrons for storage, and we can reprogram the shit on those electrons, or erase the shit, and release free electrons back into the ethers of earth.

I know this is hard stuff for some of you to comprehend, but you are not going to get technology you cannot handle and for good reason.
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I wish I was willing to pay for the whole article, for the article on science direct, nearly $32 for not that huge a file, but I sounds very interesting. the S. frequency is rising and there is quite a SOUL in which both your brain, and your dna body are residing in at this time of great change. Just understand your MIND is not in your brain, but your brain is the interface needed to engage in this world.
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All things in creation are holographic. That is the original intent of the first film clip. The creator of the creativity machine had mimicked how we create and the machine took it and expanded.
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yep and very dangerous. because the machine will always search for ITS CREATOR, run over everything in its way and never find God in the looking. There was an interesting movie on this long ago, where some toy we sent out returned to earth looking for it's creator. It must be contained in it's use by people that KNOW. We are not ready. The machine must serve the human. When the human does not know about machine mind, the machine will control the human.
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For what it's worth I think your referring to "Star Trek The Motion Picture" and V***GER.

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I'm bump this thread, very interesting. Makes one think!

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