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OWS flies Soviet Flag in Philly

 
gypsybiker45

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10/11/2011 05:22 AM
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Do these idiots realize how many Americans died fighting Communists? 36000 in Korea,58000 in Vietnam,and over a 1000 more in other incidents.Dont they realize Stalin and Mao were responsible for the deaths of over 100,000,000 people? This is what they want? As a Cold War vet, Im totally disgusted with these freaks. if anyone raises that goddamn red flag anywhere near me, I will take it from them and destroy it.I dont care about anyones beliefs on the hows and whys these conflicts took place whatsoever, over 100000 US servicement died fighting this ideal, and Ill be damned If ill accept it.
 Quoting: gypsybiker45


"Cold War vet". I've heard it all, now. Get any combat experience in that war, tinkerbell?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283611


As a matter of fact, yes.


Not to mention retard, the above wars of Korea, Vietnam ,etc. are ALL part of the Cold War, so go fuck yourself "Tinkerbell"

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10/11/2011 05:48 AM
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Don't be fooled...it's all a part of the script to tick you off.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1505675


True Enough!

they have been provoking real Americans for sometime now.

one of these days ...
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10/11/2011 06:00 AM
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Do these idiots realize how many Americans died fighting Communists? 36000 in Korea,58000 in Vietnam,and over a 1000 more in other incidents.Dont they realize Stalin and Mao were responsible for the deaths of over 100,000,000 people? This is what they want? As a Cold War vet, Im totally disgusted with these freaks. if anyone raises that goddamn red flag anywhere near me, I will take it from them and destroy it.I dont care about anyones beliefs on the hows and whys these conflicts took place whatsoever, over 100000 US servicement died fighting this ideal, and Ill be damned If ill accept it.
 Quoting: gypsybiker45


And how many Vietnamies and Korean people got killed by Americans???....
a least 20 times that number, the heroes of "napalm bombing" are not forgotten you know!

Well what was your business in Korea and voietnam anyway other than to protect corporate interest and imperialism?
you should be mad at your leaders who sent you to this useless wars against the will of the pople there, as the outcome of the conflicts proved.
Don´t expect respect gratitude from the world for your the failed policy of your leaders.

Resect for your service to your fatherland is of course always there. But you were tricked by your leaders and obviously still are...
Hitokiri

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10/11/2011 06:02 AM

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i wonder how many posers are sporting the viva la che tees and they don;t even know a fucking thing about him
 Quoting: .vasaline


I guarantee that 98% of the trendy posers wearing Che T-shirts have no idea what a murderous scumbag he was.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


You know they don't. They just think it's cool.
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10/11/2011 06:15 AM
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Do these idiots realize how many Americans died fighting Communists? 36000 in Korea,58000 in Vietnam,and over a 1000 more in other incidents.Dont they realize Stalin and Mao were responsible for the deaths of over 100,000,000 people? This is what they want? As a Cold War vet, Im totally disgusted with these freaks. if anyone raises that goddamn red flag anywhere near me, I will take it from them and destroy it.I dont care about anyones beliefs on the hows and whys these conflicts took place whatsoever, over 100000 US servicement died fighting this ideal, and Ill be damned If ill accept it.
 Quoting: gypsybiker45


And how many Vietnamies and Korean people got killed by Americans???....
a least 20 times that number, the heroes of "napalm bombing" are not forgotten you know!

Well what was your business in Korea and voietnam anyway other than to protect corporate interest and imperialism?
you should be mad at your leaders who sent you to this useless wars against the will of the pople there, as the outcome of the conflicts proved.
Don´t expect respect gratitude from the world for your the failed policy of your leaders.

Resect for your service to your fatherland is of course always there. But you were tricked by your leaders and obviously still are...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3072529



+10000

Americans were under anti-comunist propagand during 60 years, so this is why they react this way.

Stalin Kill 100,000,000 is one of the outrageous nonsense myth.
During all soviet era the system kill less than 1,000,000 in Gulags and many of them die by bad conditions no killed. This study was made by west historians.
Mao Kill more but allawys well bellow this 100,000,000.

Stalin transformed a mediaval and desunited Country (Russia) in to a power in many areas, and they were the first on Space and many other achivements.
If comunism is made by good people is a system far away better tnha Corporativis/Capitalism/Fachism.
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10/11/2011 06:24 AM

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Do these idiots realize how many Americans died fighting Communists? 36000 in Korea,58000 in Vietnam,and over a 1000 more in other incidents.Dont they realize Stalin and Mao were responsible for the deaths of over 100,000,000 people? This is what they want? As a Cold War vet, Im totally disgusted with these freaks. if anyone raises that goddamn red flag anywhere near me, I will take it from them and destroy it.I dont care about anyones beliefs on the hows and whys these conflicts took place whatsoever, over 100000 US servicement died fighting this ideal, and Ill be damned If ill accept it.
 Quoting: gypsybiker45


"Cold War vet". I've heard it all, now. Get any combat experience in that war, tinkerbell?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283611


How so.... watching Nixon kill 30,000 more american soldiers after even he knew the war in Vietnam was a total failure.

Sure fool. Sign up now, risk your life and limbs in a low intensity conflict with no end and no purpose.

Just don't expect Uncle Sugar to be there paying you a fat cow pension for the rest of your life.

The Generals Politicians and Wall St. Bankers got first place in the line and they are getting their money upfront.

Didn't you get the memo?
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10/11/2011 06:42 AM
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Do these idiots realize how many Americans died fighting Communists? 36000 in Korea,58000 in Vietnam,and over a 1000 more in other incidents.Dont they realize Stalin and Mao were responsible for the deaths of over 100,000,000 people? This is what they want? As a Cold War vet, Im totally disgusted with these freaks. if anyone raises that goddamn red flag anywhere near me, I will take it from them and destroy it.I dont care about anyones beliefs on the hows and whys these conflicts took place whatsoever, over 100000 US servicement died fighting this ideal, and Ill be damned If ill accept it.
 Quoting: gypsybiker45


"Cold War vet". I've heard it all, now. Get any combat experience in that war, tinkerbell?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1283611


How so.... watching Nixon kill 30,000 more american soldiers after even he knew the war in Vietnam was a total failure.

Sure fool. Sign up now, risk your life and limbs in a low intensity conflict with no end and no purpose.

Just don't expect Uncle Sugar to be there paying you a fat cow pension for the rest of your life.

The Generals Politicians and Wall St. Bankers got first place in the line and they are getting their money upfront.

Didn't you get the memo?
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


putin

Always funny how Kennedy and LBJ get left out of the toss when people slam Viet Nam. And we would have won that war had we been allowed to fight the way we did against the Nazi's and Japanese. But politics got in the way and it turned into a meat grinder. Instead of taking the fight to Hanoi, we fought a guerilla campaign in the south against a tough and determined enemy, heavily financed and armed by the Soviets.
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Zan

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10/11/2011 08:28 AM
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Seeing the negative feedback this forum has on OWS-protests, i must ask US-users on the forum something.

How deep is it in your belief systems and your whole political/sociological-selves to be capitalist.

I have honestly thought capitalism and communism as a other ends of the spectrum is but a remain of the cold war.

But obviously individualism and capitalism is the way for most americans still?

So is there is room thinking maybe the capitalism isnt right? Maybe instead of thinking only oneselves (individualism), people should be obligated to take care of the community they live in. Basically both embracing individual rights and freedoms, but also be obligated to give everyone else the same rights, and taking care of the community aswell. (communitarism).

Im just trying to learn about the american socioculture here. I find it amusing how the cold-war propaganda against communism still lives brightly in each of you.
[link to en.wikipedia.org] just a little something to read if you people think you know what communism is, and where it originates from.

Most people are taught to believe communism is a bad thing, without even knowing what it really is.
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10/11/2011 11:20 AM

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So is there is room thinking maybe the capitalism isnt right? Maybe instead of thinking only oneselves (individualism), people should be obligated to take care of the community they live in. Basically both embracing individual rights and freedoms, but also be obligated to give everyone else the same rights, and taking care of the community aswell. (communitarism).

 Quoting: Zan


There are no individual "rights" in a forced state collective. When you assume that each individual is obligated to every other individual, and you force that obligation with the violence of the State, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS cease to exist!

The ONLY moral form of collectivism is VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION. That means one CAN NOT use the violence of the State to force their ideas onto other people.
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Zan

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There are no individual "rights" in a forced state collective. When you assume that each individual is obligated to every other individual, and you force that obligation with the violence of the State, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS cease to exist!

The ONLY moral form of collectivism is VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION. That means one CAN NOT use the violence of the State to force their ideas onto other people.
 Quoting: Shingen



Voluntary association, allright. how can you make sure everyone associates with the community? isnt it unfair some people only pay their part for the society.

Dont understand me wrong, im all out for individual humanistic rights. Its just that these things always conflict with one another, individual<->community, single person<->society. it seems you can never please both at the same time.

But yea good point, ethics. Ofcourse it is immoral to obligate someone to take care of the community they live in. Yet still we have neighborhood watches and similar events where people are passively expected to participate if they are a part of a community. Charity events so on.
One would think Desperate Housewives gives good examples on this.

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how can you make sure everyone associates with the community?
 Quoting: Zan

You can't.

isnt it unfair some people only pay their part for the society.
 Quoting: Zan


Not as unfair as being forced, at gunpoint, to participate in an activity you don't want to participate in.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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Do these idiots realize how many Americans died fighting Communists? 36000 in Korea,58000 in Vietnam,and over a 1000 more in other incidents.Dont they realize Stalin and Mao were responsible for the deaths of over 100,000,000 people? This is what they want? As a Cold War vet, Im totally disgusted with these freaks. if anyone raises that goddamn red flag anywhere near me, I will take it from them and destroy it.I dont care about anyones beliefs on the hows and whys these conflicts took place whatsoever, over 100000 US servicement died fighting this ideal, and Ill be damned If ill accept it.
 Quoting: gypsybiker45


And how many Vietnamies and Korean people got killed by Americans???....
a least 20 times that number, the heroes of "napalm bombing" are not forgotten you know!

Well what was your business in Korea and voietnam anyway other than to protect corporate interest and imperialism?
you should be mad at your leaders who sent you to this useless wars against the will of the pople there, as the outcome of the conflicts proved.
Don´t expect respect gratitude from the world for your the failed policy of your leaders.

Resect for your service to your fatherland is of course always there. But you were tricked by your leaders and obviously still are...
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I can guess which Germany you lived in prior to 1990
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These scumbag commies belong in jail.
 Quoting: CrazyJarhead


just out of fucking curiosity have you ever heard of freedom of speech its something allowed in the U.S

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