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CHEMTRAILS for three days, now rain.

 
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noble knows it partakes in a cover up. nothing more.
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And you are a paranoid loser...nothing more.
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You are incorrect,a failure, and losing as usual.
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If I may mr ignobble,
What inspires you to spend so much time with GLP bashing chemtards? Are there any other 'tard' groups on glp you harass as well? You have your place and that's fine, but what fun is it?

It must be tough being so mean to strangers all the time.
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The only thing that inspires me is the truth. And I do this in between work tasks at my desk. When someone posts to certain threads...or a new chemtard thread is created, I get a signal on my phone (Peter Griffin laughing). Then I know a chemtard has posted some ignorant and paranoid nonsense...and when I have the time...I reply..or, if I chose not to at that moment...I do it later. I'm sure you'd like to "believe" I sit here and scour the threads for chemtard nonsense...nope...

It's just a hobby... Making fun of ignorant and paranoid chemtards for posting paranoid nonsense about subjects they are 100% ignorant about is fun...but the replies you whiny morons post are even better. Keep up the good work...and thanks!

I'm not the "mean" one. I'm one of few people who actually care about the truth in this matter.

I'm uninterested in the other "tards" because I'm uninterested and not knowledgeable about the other subjects. Those people could be right...chemtards are WRONG about the trails in the sky...and what counts as "evidence".
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noble knows it partakes in a cover up. nothing more.
yawn
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And you are a paranoid loser...nothing more.
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You are incorrect,a failure, and losing as usual.
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Hehe, says the chemtard...

meaningless...
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So I just purchased a equatorial mount telescope to follow all the celestial happenings so I can have a true understanding of what is really happening in the skies. I put it all together and went out last night to look at the moon first because it would be easy to get the hang of things with such a large object.

My plan is to start monitoring the moon first to get the hang of making detailed observations and move on from that point to fainter objects.

So I go outside last night about 8PM approx. Crystal clear outside, moon was exceptionally bright.

I live close to an airport, and the planes landing fly from south to north on their decent. They also fly from north to south when taking off, when viewed from my house. However, last night around 9PM approx., I started seeing about what seemed three planes flying from east to west, and west to east leaving a thick contrail. The contrails dispersed, but only grew large and created a thick haze in the sky, to the point of the moon becoming blurry. It also caused the moon to look like it had a huge fuzzy halo around it.

At about 10PM Jupitor started rising from the East and so pointed my scope in that direction and could see Jupitor and its 3 largest moons. As I was looking at jupiter, a plane flew right across my view flying from the south-west, towards the north-east, with a thick contrail, that made Jupitor so blurry, I just gave up for the night.

It is supposedly to be relatively cloudy for the rest of the week into the weekend, but I plan on trying to make as many observations as I can.

I want to point out, that it is people like astronut that has provoked me to take actions such as these (although I've always had a desire to get into astronomy anyways and I finally had the money to purchase a decent scope, although now I realize why everyone at the astronomy club I recently attended told me to get an alt-azm mount haha). It was too good of a deal on the scope though so I'll just have to deal with trying to figure out how to get the motor to work for me, instead of against me.

What I don't understand is why they would be chemtrailing at night...
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So I just purchased a equatorial mount telescope to follow all the celestial happenings so I can have a true understanding of what is really happening in the skies. I put it all together and went out last night to look at the moon first because it would be easy to get the hang of things with such a large object.

My plan is to start monitoring the moon first to get the hang of making detailed observations and move on from that point to fainter objects.

So I go outside last night about 8PM approx. Crystal clear outside, moon was exceptionally bright.

I live close to an airport, and the planes landing fly from south to north on their decent. They also fly from north to south when taking off, when viewed from my house. However, last night around 9PM approx., I started seeing about what seemed three planes flying from east to west, and west to east leaving a thick contrail. The contrails dispersed, but only grew large and created a thick haze in the sky, to the point of the moon becoming blurry. It also caused the moon to look like it had a huge fuzzy halo around it.

At about 10PM Jupitor started rising from the East and so pointed my scope in that direction and could see Jupitor and its 3 largest moons. As I was looking at jupiter, a plane flew right across my view flying from the south-west, towards the north-east, with a thick contrail, that made Jupitor so blurry, I just gave up for the night.

It is supposedly to be relatively cloudy for the rest of the week into the weekend, but I plan on trying to make as many observations as I can.

I want to point out, that it is people like astronut that has provoked me to take actions such as these (although I've always had a desire to get into astronomy anyways and I finally had the money to purchase a decent scope, although now I realize why everyone at the astronomy club I recently attended told me to get an alt-azm mount haha). It was too good of a deal on the scope though so I'll just have to deal with trying to figure out how to get the motor to work for me, instead of against me.

What I don't understand is why they would be chemtrailing at night...
 Quoting: Bertoxxulous


Because "they" aren't do any such thing...at any time during the day or night. It's water vapor from hydrocarbon combustion.
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Out here in Las Vegas...it almost always rains the day after a spraying.
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I just lost a big post to dial up
Meat of it was:
Are you saying chemtards are whack for suggesting that jet emissions occasionally cause cloud cover?

Or, you are aware that this happens occasionally due to atmospheric conditions , but there is no predicting when that might be or way to use it in a coordinated manner.
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Please tell me what is it I beleive as a 'chemtard' ?

antibs


After you label a person a chemtard what does that mean to you? I'm also a cloud tard, I always watch the sky, I don't sit at a desk, for the first time today I kicked a rooster and it felt a lot like a soccer ball.
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Out here in Las Vegas...it almost always rains the day after a spraying.
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There is a VERY good reason for that...and it's actually proof that no one is "spraying". It's about moisture in the atmosphere..

But you don't care about silly science crap...it's all about the fantasy...
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Please tell me what is it I beleive as a 'chemtard' ?

antibs


After you label a person a chemtard what does that mean to you? I'm also a cloud tard, I always watch the sky, I don't sit at a desk, for the first time today I kicked a rooster and it felt a lot like a soccer ball.
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ANYONE who uses the word "chemtrails" and believes they exist...is a chemtard. YOU made the thread...you are a chemtard. Considering the fact that EVERY SINGLE bit of evidence presented AS evidence of "chemtrails" is evidence of that persons ignorance about aviation and atmospheric science.

To have an interest in clouds doesn't make you a "cloudtard" until you apply paranoid ignorance to a subject involving clouds.

I don't give a shit about what you kicked...and what it felt like. Sounds like nonsense to me...Not surprising coming from a chemtard.
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In Chicago I've only observed/documented morning chemtrail grid spraying... I wondered why it's not done at night here. Is there a logistic problem or a engineering problem with dispersion? The Grids are GPS perfect so it doesn't seem to need visual, and the technical aspect of dispersion seems perfected too. On another thread I posted the complacency of most observers here, nobody cares, so just spray during the day.

So I just purchased a equatorial mount telescope to follow all the celestial happenings so I can have a true understanding of what is really happening in the skies. I put it all together and went out last night to look at the moon first because it would be easy to get the hang of things with such a large object.

My plan is to start monitoring the moon first to get the hang of making detailed observations and move on from that point to fainter objects.

So I go outside last night about 8PM approx. Crystal clear outside, moon was exceptionally bright.

I live close to an airport, and the planes landing fly from south to north on their decent. They also fly from north to south when taking off, when viewed from my house. However, last night around 9PM approx., I started seeing about what seemed three planes flying from east to west, and west to east leaving a thick contrail. The contrails dispersed, but only grew large and created a thick haze in the sky, to the point of the moon becoming blurry. It also caused the moon to look like it had a huge fuzzy halo around it.

At about 10PM Jupitor started rising from the East and so pointed my scope in that direction and could see Jupitor and its 3 largest moons. As I was looking at jupiter, a plane flew right across my view flying from the south-west, towards the north-east, with a thick contrail, that made Jupitor so blurry, I just gave up for the night.

It is supposedly to be relatively cloudy for the rest of the week into the weekend, but I plan on trying to make as many observations as I can.

I want to point out, that it is people like astronut that has provoked me to take actions such as these (although I've always had a desire to get into astronomy anyways and I finally had the money to purchase a decent scope, although now I realize why everyone at the astronomy club I recently attended told me to get an alt-azm mount haha). It was too good of a deal on the scope though so I'll just have to deal with trying to figure out how to get the motor to work for me, instead of against me.

What I don't understand is why they would be chemtrailing at night...
 Quoting: Bertoxxulous

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Simple question

Can emissions from airplanes cause increased cloud cover when there is a lingering contrail?
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In Chicago I've only observed/documented morning chemtrail grid spraying... I wondered why it's not done at night here. Is there a logistic problem or a engineering problem with dispersion? The Grids are GPS perfect so it doesn't seem to need visual, and the technical aspect of dispersion seems perfected too. On another thread I posted the complacency of most observers here, nobody cares, so just spray during the day.
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Good question. In the past I've observed morning and evening spraying, but this is the first time I've seen it done in the middle of the night, only because I just got this scope.

Nine times out of ten it is done in the morning, in the east, before the sun rises, and also in the west as it sets. I've seen sometimes during the day as well but mostly in the east in the morning and in the west in the evening. I've always chaulked it up to be something related to the sun. However, there was that news peice in California where they were collecting soil samples and rain samples, measure the aluminum and barium and whatever else they found in the particulate, but I think they postured it away as cloud seeding, which I would hazard a guess that it is not the real reason for the spraying.
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I'm trying to use your vast knowledge of aviation atmospherics to learn something. You say you want to promote truth.
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If these things are used in a coordinated manner it might be to produce differential heating that could manipulate high or low pressure cells.

See Irene.
Have a lovely day...
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If these things are used in a coordinated manner it might be to produce differential heating that could manipulate high or low pressure cells.

See Irene.
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That could very well be the case. The over-arching thing I've noticed the most about the spraying is that they always seem to blanket the sky along the ecliptic following the sun. Mostly in a cris-cross pattern creating a series of parallelograms in the sky that eventually blend together creating the hazy cloud cover associated with chemtrails.
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Simple question

Can emissions from airplanes cause increased cloud cover when there is a lingering contrail?
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Of course...

But that doesn't make them "chemtrails" It makes them persistent spreading contrails and contrail cirrus/cirrus uncinus.

If the air is saturated...and the engine produces enough water vapor to push the air past supersaturation (and the air is cold enough) it will produce clouds.

Still has nothing to do with 'chemicals".
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If these things are used in a coordinated manner it might be to produce differential heating that could manipulate high or low pressure cells.

See Irene.
 Quoting: calendulaceum


yeah..."might"...."could".

Glad to see those words instead of the statements of fact you chemards usually use.
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calendulaceum,
Better yet see the Chicago cyclonic weather pattern thread, no coincidence, chemtrails, unusual weather, documented with sat images.
Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9-20-11, now a cyclonic weather pattern 9-24-11
And calendulaceum take control of your thread, dump the shills and your knowledge will increase. Read PM.

If these things are used in a coordinated manner it might be to produce differential heating that could manipulate high or low pressure cells.

See Irene.
 Quoting: calendulaceum


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Simple question

Can emissions from airplanes cause increased cloud cover when there is a lingering contrail?
 Quoting: calendulaceum


Of course...

But that doesn't make them "chemtrails" It makes them persistent spreading contrails and contrail cirrus/cirrus uncinus.

If the air is saturated...and the engine produces enough water vapor to push the air past supersaturation (and the air is cold enough) it will produce clouds.

Still has nothing to do with 'chemicals".
 Quoting: Noble


Thank you for your pertinent response.

So you acknowledge that cloud cover can be achieved via jet engine under a certain set of atmospheric conditions.

Is there any action that a jet could take to stop or start these persistent contrails? Dumbing it way down, could the auto pilot step on the accelerator or let off of it changing conditions to cause the more persistent type of con trail to be produced or halted?

I'm down with Boyle , don't be afraid.
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calendulaceum,
Better yet see the Chicago cyclonic weather pattern thread, no coincidence, chemtrails, unusual weather, documented with sat images.
Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9-20-11, now a cyclonic weather pattern 9-24-11
And calendulaceum take control of your thread, dump the shills and your knowledge will increase. Read PM.

If these things are used in a coordinated manner it might be to produce differential heating that could manipulate high or low pressure cells.

See Irene.
 Quoting: calendulaceum

 Quoting: uscrusader1


I'm guilty of trolling.
I'm more exploring the psyop thing by starting a thread with
'chemtrail' in the title. I have dial up and can't watch vid or check out radar histories very quickly. I have observed the sky almost continually for many years. The obviousness of the weather patterns in correlation to the artificial cloud cover ;) has me curious enough to check out threads mentioning it, and I always see ignobble and fake airlines stinking up the forum. I wanted to find out what one of those guys would do faced with the likes of me. The persistent nature of the shilly attacks makes one wonder what the big deal is.
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Then as observed, why does the same aircraft make 15-20 passes in a grid formation, parallel lines, equidistant, over a populated city?... Just a joy ride to make your 'persistent contrails'?... stranger than chemtrails?

Simple question

Can emissions from airplanes cause increased cloud cover when there is a lingering contrail?
 Quoting: calendulaceum


Of course...

But that doesn't make them "chemtrails" It makes them persistent spreading contrails and contrail cirrus/cirrus uncinus.

If the air is saturated...and the engine produces enough water vapor to push the air past supersaturation (and the air is cold enough) it will produce clouds.

Still has nothing to do with 'chemicals".
 Quoting: Noble


Thank you for your pertinent response.

So you acknowledge that cloud cover can be achieved via jet engine under a certain set of atmospheric conditions.

Is there any action that a jet could take to stop or start these persistent contrails? Dumbing it way down, could the auto pilot step on the accelerator or let off of it changing conditions to cause the more persistent type of con trail to be produced or halted?

I'm down with Boyle , don't be afraid.
 Quoting: calendulaceum


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Oh, sorry calendulaceum, then please continue.

As Noble et al has posted he has a tickler to warn him of chemtrail threads(actually posts) to heckle. If you read their posts they have a pattern of personal poster attack, thread derailment, etc., not so much useful knowledge. In that they are trying to heckle eyewitness reports without even being there.

If you don't think an agency that can afford to outfit these custom(in Chicago at least)767's and clear air traffic from busy Chicago airspace... can afford to bring on some shills for forums like GLP...

Like I said in Chicago when told "Those ain't a checkerboard of natural clouds, you've been sprayed with something from a aircraft!" Nobody cared anyway.


calendulaceum,
Better yet see the Chicago cyclonic weather pattern thread, no coincidence, chemtrails, unusual weather, documented with sat images.
Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9-20-11, now a cyclonic weather pattern 9-24-11
And calendulaceum take control of your thread, dump the shills and your knowledge will increase. Read PM.

If these things are used in a coordinated manner it might be to produce differential heating that could manipulate high or low pressure cells.

See Irene.
 Quoting: calendulaceum

 Quoting: uscrusader1


I'm guilty of trolling.
I'm more exploring the psyop thing by starting a thread with
'chemtrail' in the title. I have dial up and can't watch vid or check out radar histories very quickly. I have observed the sky almost continually for many years. The obviousness of the weather patterns in correlation to the artificial cloud cover ;) has me curious enough to check out threads mentioning it, and I always see ignobble and fake airlines stinking up the forum. I wanted to find out what one of those guys would do faced with the likes of me. The persistent nature of the shilly attacks makes one wonder what the big deal is.
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Anyone who thinks chemtrails are real are fucking idiots. Contrails do not all dissipate or look the same. If you weren't a retard you would know this.
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Then as observed, why does the same aircraft make 15-20 passes in a grid formation, parallel lines, equidistant, over a populated city?... Just a joy ride to make your 'persistent contrails'?... stranger than chemtrails?
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I forgot to mention this obersvation as well, that of it being the same few planes.
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Bertoxxulous,
Do you think your telescope could follow a 767 at 40,000ft haulin' ass at whatever the top speed of those things are?
Can a camera mount to it? My 50X can make out the spray nozzles clearly but would your telescope be steady enough fo a clear pic, and can it focus that close?



So I just purchased a equatorial mount telescope to follow all the celestial happenings so I can have a true understanding of what is really happening in the skies. I put it all together and went out last night to look at the moon first because it would be easy to get the hang of things with such a large object.

My plan is to start monitoring the moon first to get the hang of making detailed observations and move on from that point to fainter objects.

So I go outside last night about 8PM approx. Crystal clear outside, moon was exceptionally bright.

I live close to an airport, and the planes landing fly from south to north on their decent. They also fly from north to south when taking off, when viewed from my house. However, last night around 9PM approx., I started seeing about what seemed three planes flying from east to west, and west to east leaving a thick contrail. The contrails dispersed, but only grew large and created a thick haze in the sky, to the point of the moon becoming blurry. It also caused the moon to look like it had a huge fuzzy halo around it.

At about 10PM Jupitor started rising from the East and so pointed my scope in that direction and could see Jupitor and its 3 largest moons. As I was looking at jupiter, a plane flew right across my view flying from the south-west, towards the north-east, with a thick contrail, that made Jupitor so blurry, I just gave up for the night.

It is supposedly to be relatively cloudy for the rest of the week into the weekend, but I plan on trying to make as many observations as I can.

I want to point out, that it is people like astronut that has provoked me to take actions such as these (although I've always had a desire to get into astronomy anyways and I finally had the money to purchase a decent scope, although now I realize why everyone at the astronomy club I recently attended told me to get an alt-azm mount haha). It was too good of a deal on the scope though so I'll just have to deal with trying to figure out how to get the motor to work for me, instead of against me.

What I don't understand is why they would be chemtrailing at night...
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You are correct about contrails.
We are talking about chemtrails.
Anyone who thinks chemtrails are real are fucking idiots. Contrails do not all dissipate or look the same. If you weren't a retard you would know this.
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Bertoxxulous,
Do you think your telescope could follow a 767 at 40,000ft haulin' ass at whatever the top speed of those things are?
Can a camera mount to it? My 50X can make out the spray nozzles clearly but would your telescope be steady enough fo a clear pic, and can it focus that close?




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BULLSHIT! There are no "spray nozzles"!
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You are correct about contrails.
We are talking about chemtrails.
Anyone who thinks chemtrails are real are fucking idiots. Contrails do not all dissipate or look the same. If you weren't a retard you would know this.
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 Quoting: uscrusader1


What you refer to AS "chemtrails" ARE contrails. You are just too ignorant to understand that fact!
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Oh, sorry calendulaceum, then please continue.

As Noble et al has posted he has a tickler to warn him of chemtrail threads(actually posts) to heckle. If you read their posts they have a pattern of personal poster attack, thread derailment, etc., not so much useful knowledge. In that they are trying to heckle eyewitness reports without even being there.

If you don't think an agency that can afford to outfit these custom(in Chicago at least)767's and clear air traffic from busy Chicago airspace... can afford to bring on some shills for forums like GLP...

Like I said in Chicago when told "Those ain't a checkerboard of natural clouds, you've been sprayed with something from a aircraft!" Nobody cared anyway.


calendulaceum,
Better yet see the Chicago cyclonic weather pattern thread, no coincidence, chemtrails, unusual weather, documented with sat images.
Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9-20-11, now a cyclonic weather pattern 9-24-11
And calendulaceum take control of your thread, dump the shills and your knowledge will increase. Read PM.

If these things are used in a coordinated manner it might be to produce differential heating that could manipulate high or low pressure cells.

See Irene.
 Quoting: calendulaceum

 Quoting: uscrusader1


I'm guilty of trolling.
I'm more exploring the psyop thing by starting a thread with
'chemtrail' in the title. I have dial up and can't watch vid or check out radar histories very quickly. I have observed the sky almost continually for many years. The obviousness of the weather patterns in correlation to the artificial cloud cover ;) has me curious enough to check out threads mentioning it, and I always see ignobble and fake airlines stinking up the forum. I wanted to find out what one of those guys would do faced with the likes of me. The persistent nature of the shilly attacks makes one wonder what the big deal is.
 Quoting: calendulaceum

 Quoting: uscrusader1


Bullshit...That's just whiny nonsense from some loser who can't stand to be disagreed with! It's why you block people for not towing the chemtard line in all of your stupid threads. I have posted a LOT of useful knowledge..YOU are just too stupid to understand it...and you'd rather believe the ignorant and paranoid fantasy.

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