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Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?

 
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
I would have to go with the Bully Kutta if you have a top notch one.
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Cane Corso , if i had to choose

I have two male Akitas . Mastiff wreckers . Mastiffs are too big and cumbersome .
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Ya you have a point. Cane Corso would probably be the least powerful but would have the must speed, agility and endurance.

If a Dogue de Bordeaux got hold of one though it would be all over. So I gueess it comes down to application, just like anything. The dog being a tool.
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Oh and Akitas are great dogs. I would love to get an Akita wolf hybrid or even a pure Akita. You know the best breeders in the states or could you reference anyone who is good?

When I get back stateside I plan on getting a dog.
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Yeah , the DDB is a formidable dog

My 10mt old Akita is 135lbs and as agile as a spaniel .If you are seriously considering one , take a look through results at international dog shows and visit the winners websites and contact them .

Two bits of advice

Be patient . You might have to wait to get the dog you want . I rescued my first two akitas , but waited 3 years for my pup .

Do not hint or imply that you are in anyway interested in the breed for macho reasons . They will chase you . Akita breeders , in general , dont want their dogs going to that kind of place . Akita attacks are less common than other power breeds . We want to keep it that way .

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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
All I have to say about this thread is I hate the thought of some poor dog having you, OP, for a "master". At least you are thinking about dogs who are large enough to defend themselves - from you. You have a really bad vibe.
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
I've got a male English mastiff. He's wonderful with my kids and a great family dog. My youngest will ride him like a pony. Only time he's ever hurt a kid is when his tail is wagging and smacks a kiddo with it.

If a stranger approaches he will get in-between the stranger and which ever family member is closest to the stranger. He will stand straight at 4.5 foot tall, and 225lbs with hair on the back of his neck up. Very common for a stranger to blurt out "oh shit" or some other profanity when they notice the dog. I've had a ups delivery men fall down off the front porch when I open the door and they see the dog.

Only negative is he still thinks hes a lapdog.
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
I've got a male English mastiff. He's wonderful with my kids and a great family dog. My youngest will ride him like a pony. Only time he's ever hurt a kid is when his tail is wagging and smacks a kiddo with it.

If a stranger approaches he will get in-between the stranger and which ever family member is closest to the stranger. He will stand straight at 4.5 foot tall, and 225lbs with hair on the back of his neck up. Very common for a stranger to blurt out "oh shit" or some other profanity when they notice the dog. I've had a ups delivery men fall down off the front porch when I open the door and they see the dog.

Only negative is he still thinks hes a lapdog.
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Cane Corso , if i had to choose

I have two male Akitas . Mastiff wreckers . Mastiffs are too big and cumbersome .
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Ya you have a point. Cane Corso would probably be the least powerful but would have the must speed, agility and endurance.

If a Dogue de Bordeaux got hold of one though it would be all over. So I gueess it comes down to application, just like anything. The dog being a tool.
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Oh and Akitas are great dogs. I would love to get an Akita wolf hybrid or even a pure Akita. You know the best breeders in the states or could you reference anyone who is good?

When I get back stateside I plan on getting a dog.
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Yeah , the DDB is a formidable dog

My 10mt old Akita is 135lbs and as agile as a spaniel .If you are seriously considering one , take a look through results at international dog shows and visit the winners websites and contact them .

Two bits of advice

Be patient . You might have to wait to get the dog you want . I rescued my first two akitas , but waited 3 years for my pup .

Do not hint or imply that you are in anyway interested in the breed for macho reasons . They will chase you . Akita breeders , in general , dont want their dogs going to that kind of place . Akita attacks are less common than other power breeds . We want to keep it that way .

peace
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Thanks bro!
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
I've got a male English mastiff. He's wonderful with my kids and a great family dog. My youngest will ride him like a pony. Only time he's ever hurt a kid is when his tail is wagging and smacks a kiddo with it.

If a stranger approaches he will get in-between the stranger and which ever family member is closest to the stranger. He will stand straight at 4.5 foot tall, and 225lbs with hair on the back of his neck up. Very common for a stranger to blurt out "oh shit" or some other profanity when they notice the dog. I've had a ups delivery men fall down off the front porch when I open the door and they see the dog.

Only negative is he still thinks hes a lapdog.
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lol awesome.
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stop thinking of a life as an accessory, get a rescued animal, save a life, they are usually very greatful.
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blow me fruit cake.

I am not a socialist, I don't feel the need to have to adopt other peoples unwanted animals because they are not responsible enough to take care of them properly.

Same goes for stray dogs, or those born to strays. The only reason they are strays is because some lowlife kicked them out of their home.
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AAAaaah perhaps you are looking for ze canine master r-r-race?
You only vant die hunds mit papieren? Run in ze family?
Macht nix,
My dogs lived the first part of their lives in virtual hell and I've saved them and they are so very greatful. They are sentient beings, apparently you dont think so, or care.
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Back to the shed, Billy Bob.We were talking dogs. Nobody is interested in your rescue mission of some chihuahuas. And your German accent sucks...
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cruise
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
I was looking at some pics of akitas, the brindle ones are gorgeous. Have always been a sucker for brindle.
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Bump for more mastiff stories. Best breed of dog there is!!
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
I was looking at some pics of akitas, the brindle ones are gorgeous. Have always been a sucker for brindle.
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My old boy is pure white , my pup is a kind of caramel/reddish colour on white . The black on white ones are stunning too . There are excellent Akita breeders in UK , they really are are pretty good . Google Stecal Akitas or Redwitch Akitas , stunning dogs . I cant tell you who my dogs breeder is as they dont deal with the public ( i had to sign a contract guarenteing i wouldnt show or breed him ) . I was introduced through a friend of a friend .

His dad has one 13 international titles so if you did enough research , you could probably get a rough idea of who he was . He cost me a fortune . Be prepared to shell out a few bucks . I dont know the conversion rate but i couldnt have had much change out of $2700
hf
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I was looking at some pics of akitas, the brindle ones are gorgeous. Have always been a sucker for brindle.
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My old boy is pure white , my pup is a kind of caramel/reddish colour on white . The black on white ones are stunning too . There are excellent Akita breeders in UK , they really are are pretty good . Google Stecal Akitas or Redwitch Akitas , stunning dogs . I cant tell you who my dogs breeder is as they dont deal with the public ( i had to sign a contract guarenteing i wouldnt show or breed him ) . I was introduced through a friend of a friend .

His dad has one 13 international titles so if you did enough research , you could probably get a rough idea of who he was . He cost me a fortune . Be prepared to shell out a few bucks . I dont know the conversion rate but i couldnt have had much change out of $2700
hf
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Thanks for the info!

Yea I had a Cane Corso actually, ex wife took her after the divorce though! Spent a couple grand.

But if you get exactly what you want, it is so worth it. I dog is a great companion.
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
I would have to go with the Bully Kutta if you have a top notch one.
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stop thinking of a life as an accessory, get a rescued animal, save a life, they are usually very greatful.
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blow me fruit cake.

I am not a socialist, I don't feel the need to have to adopt other peoples unwanted animals because they are not responsible enough to take care of them properly.

Same goes for stray dogs, or those born to strays. The only reason they are strays is because some lowlife kicked them out of their home.
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Damn, aren't you an ASSHOLE....and German to boot
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I would have to go with the Bully Kutta if you have a top notch one.
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stop thinking of a life as an accessory, get a rescued animal, save a life, they are usually very greatful.
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blow me fruit cake.

I am not a socialist, I don't feel the need to have to adopt other peoples unwanted animals because they are not responsible enough to take care of them properly.

Same goes for stray dogs, or those born to strays. The only reason they are strays is because some lowlife kicked them out of their home.
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Damn, aren't you an ASSHOLE....and German to boot
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Not German. Asshole? Depends how you define it. I don't take shit that is for sure.
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
CANE CORSO!
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CANE CORSO!
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ya they are great dogs.

Lots of eye boogeys.
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stop thinking of a life as an accessory, get a rescued animal, save a life, they are usually very greatful.
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blow me fruit cake.

I am not a socialist, I don't feel the need to have to adopt other peoples unwanted animals because they are not responsible enough to take care of them properly.

Same goes for stray dogs, or those born to strays. The only reason they are strays is because some lowlife kicked them out of their home.
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Damn, aren't you an ASSHOLE....and German to boot
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Not German. Asshole? Depends how you define it. I don't take shit that is for sure.
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Do you normally get that kind of weak racism from these cunts ?

Ive rescued 2 akitas and i wouldnt recommend it . You are buying a dog that almost certainly has behavioural problems

My 1st rescue had been beaten and had no confidence
My second rescue had no training and was red flag aggressive(killed a greyhound) . Why would anybody buy in to that . Rescue dogs are a lottery . Puppies can be moulded like playdough .
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stop thinking of a life as an accessory, get a rescued animal, save a life, they are usually very greatful.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1394135


blow me fruit cake.

I am not a socialist, I don't feel the need to have to adopt other peoples unwanted animals because they are not responsible enough to take care of them properly.

Same goes for stray dogs, or those born to strays. The only reason they are strays is because some lowlife kicked them out of their home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3165331


Damn, aren't you an ASSHOLE....and German to boot
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Not German. Asshole? Depends how you define it. I don't take shit that is for sure.
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but you are gonna be picking it up ==about 3 lbs per dog dump== and that is "taking SHIT" in my book every day...

Must also have a itty bitty dick too....
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oh, and by best I mean best at tearing living things to pieces.
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Be careful what you wish for.....the living thing might be yourself or someone you love.
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bsflag

I know how to dominate a dog.
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which ones on top you or him...got any vids...you can sell that shit to a bestiality web site and make enough to feed one of these horses you are asking about here,....for about 3 days with your talent.
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
Tosa Inu beats all the others.

Strongest bites, most durability, longest lifespan, biggest hearts, and overall best dog to own. Import one, don't settle for show ones, as they represent nothing spectacular in the breed (like the Japanese counter part).

Bully Kutta would be my second pick for that. Most fighting dogs are naturally bred with a stronger immune system. This means, less allergies, longer lifespan, and a well put together dog. Pakistani dogmen practice eugenics with their dog breed, only the best of the best are bred (Japanese do that better though).
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
I have a Cane Corso Male. He's still a pup at 1yr and 100 LBS.

The good;

Very Smart
Highly affectionate
Beautiful
Has been great with my young children, we've had a few boo boos but the dog knows they are children and acts accordingly.

The Bad;

Very Smart
Can be overly affectionate but that is probably a puppy thing.
STRONG, on leash is a challenge for my wife, we are working on this though.
Attracts a lot of attention, some people may like this, I don't care for it.

Oh..and as you said, lot's of eye boogies.lolsign

Overall he is a very good companion.

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blow me fruit cake.

I am not a socialist, I don't feel the need to have to adopt other peoples unwanted animals because they are not responsible enough to take care of them properly.

Same goes for stray dogs, or those born to strays. The only reason they are strays is because some lowlife kicked them out of their home.
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Damn, aren't you an ASSHOLE....and German to boot
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3172721


Not German. Asshole? Depends how you define it. I don't take shit that is for sure.
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Do you normally get that kind of weak racism from these cunts ?

Ive rescued 2 akitas and i wouldnt recommend it . You are buying a dog that almost certainly has behavioural problems

My 1st rescue had been beaten and had no confidence
My second rescue had no training and was red flag aggressive(killed a greyhound) . Why would anybody buy in to that . Rescue dogs are a lottery . Puppies can be moulded like playdough .
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bollox mate, all my dogs that had been abused were too big and difficult and unsocialized for most to handle and were at risk of being put down as they are not normally taken in by shelters. Yet in short order, they were housebroken, neutered, their heartworm fixed, their scars healed and they became playful, respectful big babies even with their 4cm fangs, and they finally had a pack to be part of. If you cant handle a dog like that, youre not gonna handle anything that will really fight for you as pack leader when and if that time comes either.
My best dog even sat for hours in the car with a packet of a kg of fresh hamburger meat I'd forgotten in the back of the van , the only damage being the 4 tiny dimplesbfrom his fangs in the plastic wrap where he carefully took it and placed it carefully in my seat. Now THAT'S respect from a formerly wild and abused beast large enough to take you out. Absolutely true.
The only problem with the larger/largest breeds is that they die way too soon compared to small breeds.
Get whatever suits you but there is a special place for those that save an innocent life to a useful purpose
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?
I was looking at some pics of akitas, the brindle ones are gorgeous. Have always been a sucker for brindle.
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My old boy is pure white , my pup is a kind of caramel/reddish colour on white . The black on white ones are stunning too . There are excellent Akita breeders in UK , they really are are pretty good . Google Stecal Akitas or Redwitch Akitas , stunning dogs . I cant tell you who my dogs breeder is as they dont deal with the public ( i had to sign a contract guarenteing i wouldnt show or breed him ) . I was introduced through a friend of a friend .

His dad has one 13 international titles so if you did enough research , you could probably get a rough idea of who he was . He cost me a fortune . Be prepared to shell out a few bucks . I dont know the conversion rate but i couldnt have had much change out of $2700
hf
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Wow, can you please upload a picture? Must be a stunning Akita from your description, share share....
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Re: Which mastiff is best? Bully Kutta, Cane Corso, Dogue de Bordeaux, Kangal, or Ovcharka?

And know a malamute that destroys 99% of all mastiffs...
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really? Big for the breed? Malamutes only get to around 75 pounds huh? Guess I should not have limited the thread to only mastiffs.

75 pounds? Think you mean a Husky. Attached a video on Malamute for ya:


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That is NOT a purebred malamute, it's a cross with some mastiff breed (Tibetan most likely).
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for me its will be kanagl first becouse i been in turkey for vacation and i went whit my father to sivas and i see those big dogys kangal is the best will be for the second its will be cane corso and the rest is too problem for everything..
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Kangal is not a variety of mastiff.
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I've got a male English mastiff. He's wonderful with my kids and a great family dog. My youngest will ride him like a pony. Only time he's ever hurt a kid is when his tail is wagging and smacks a kiddo with it.

If a stranger approaches he will get in-between the stranger and which ever family member is closest to the stranger. He will stand straight at 4.5 foot tall, and 225lbs with hair on the back of his neck up. Very common for a stranger to blurt out "oh shit" or some other profanity when they notice the dog. I've had a ups delivery men fall down off the front porch when I open the door and they see the dog.

Only negative is he still thinks hes a lapdog.
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Too funny! Our English Mastiff is the same. They are know for this. They are the sweetest animals until they sense something or someone as a threat to thier family or property. She never learned there is a weight restriction on being a lapdag!!

I have a security camera above our front door. People will knock at the door and it is always funny watching their expressions when they hear her bark/growl. We have a long window next to the door and the best is when they expect the dog to stick its head through the curtain...they never expect her to pop her head (bigger than a basketball)out at the same height as the door knob. Usually takes them all of 3 seconds to get all the way back to the sidewalk. i laugh everytime.


OP, look at a Neo. Be adisved, know what you are getting yourself into BEFORE getting one.
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Neo info:
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All I have to say about this thread is I hate the thought of some poor dog having you, OP, for a "master". At least you are thinking about dogs who are large enough to defend themselves - from you. You have a really bad vibe.
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Agree. Unfortunate too. He's in one of the best countries in the world to learn how to raise and train a dog. I mean train his "tool".
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no way bully kutta they are good but the kangal is far better and the alabai causian shepheard tibet mastiff i have seen[youtube] them all kangal alabai tops better than pitts

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KANGALS FAST AND HARD I SEEN ALL THESE DOGS KANGALS ALABAI ARE THE KINGS AND TIBET MASTIFF
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