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CHRISTIANS! Wake up. You are referred to as "and nearest among in love to the believers are those who say 'We are Christians'"!!!

 
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CHRISTIANS! Wake up. You are referred to as "and nearest among in love to the believers are those who say 'We are Christians'"!!!
Muslims are not the enemy.

The Elite/Illuminati is controlled by SATAN, and SATAN knows the Truth of God and divides us again and again!

This Christians vs Muslims has been created by Satan/Lucifer/Iblees to create an forever on-going war between us. Look at us, look at how weak we've become, how easily we have fallen into the trap. HUMANS KILLING HUMANS! HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE!?

In the Qur'an, Christians are often referred to as among the "People of the Book," i.e. people who have received and believed in previous revelation from God's prophets. There are verses that highlight the commonalities between Christians and Muslims, and other verses that warn Christians against sliding towards polytheism in their worship of Jesus Christ.

"Surely those who believe, and those who are jewish people, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

"O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed" (61:14).

Warnings:

"If only they [i.e. Christians] had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course, but many of them follow a course that is evil" (5:66).

"Oh People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion, nor say of God anything but the truth. Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was (no more than) a messenger of God, and His Word which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him. So believe in God and His messengers. Say not, 'Trinity.' Desist! It will be better for you, for God is One God, Glory be to Him! (Far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs" (4:171).

"The jewish people call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is but a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them; how they are deluded away from the Truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of God, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary. Yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him! (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)" (9:30-31).



Please wake up. End this Muslim vs Christian thing. Read the Noble Qur'an. Just ONCE read it full heartedly in its complete, with NO BIAS and CLEAN intention to learn. This world is a dangerous place. Without understanding, we will never make it through.

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You would find SO many similarities in the Bible.

So many Prophets come in both of the Books, the Bible and the Quran.

Adam, Noah, EnochEber, Salah, Abraham, Lot, Ismael, Isaac, jacob, Joseph, Job, Jethro, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Elijah, Elisa, Jonah, Ezekiel, Zechariah, John the baptist, Jesus(ISA), Muhammad(PARACELETE).

All of these Prophets are beautifully mentioned in the NOBLE QURAN!
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Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them both) are brothers in FAITH! Do not compare the two please.

Moses, Jesus, Muhammad.
Three men. One Mission. Submission to the One and Only God.


[link to www.allahsquran.com]

^Probably THE most beautifully coded, elegant Quran website to exist. Please check it out.

We need to spread LOVE AND UNITY. Satan's weapon is HATRED AND DISUNITY. The Illuminati DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
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Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them both) are brothers in FAITH! Do not compare the two please.

Moses, Jesus, Muhammad.
Three men. One Mission. Submission to the One and Only God.


[link to www.allahsquran.com]

^Probably THE most beautifully coded, elegant Quran website to exist. Please check it out.

We need to spread LOVE AND UNITY. Satan's weapon is HATRED AND DISUNITY. The Illuminati DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
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Sorry man, Jesus was the son of God. Noah was God's servant. Still trying to figure out what Mohammad was. Peace be with you too.
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Listen, bro, I am a moderate Muslim. I have many, many friends of many different faiths.

I've lived amongst Christians and Muslims, here in Brooklyn NY, for 12 years. We all live in harmony, get along beautifully.

But bro, Jesus was never son of God. YOU are my brother from another faith, a faith which was supposed to be ONE ALL ALONG.

SAUL, a jewish, (later PAUL) was a man of Satan. A false prophet. YOU know he hated Christianity, and being Satan's man, he was ordered to go infiltrate and corrupt the Message of Jesus, the REAL JESUS who PREACHED ONE GOD.


Do you not see!? So many Gospels taken out, burned? So many messages burned? The Bible even now saying God has no son? he Quran over and over saying God has no son?

THINK ABOUT it bro.THINK.

WHAT DOESNT fit the picture?
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Its ALWAYS a jewish who messes things up, but behind the jewish is SATAN/Lucifer/Iblees.

Paul was a jewish who messed up Christianity.

A jewish, named Abdullah Bin Saba became a SHIA MUSLIM and created SHIASM! Dividing Islam!

A jewish in both faiths!

The Jewish await their messiah ANTICHRIST!

The Muslims and Christians await JESUS!
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Its ALWAYS a jewish who messes things up, but behind the jewish is SATAN/Lucifer/Iblees.

Paul was a jewish who messed up Christianity.

A jewish, named Abdullah Bin Saba became a SHIA MUSLIM and created SHIASM! Dividing Islam!

A jewish in both faiths!

The Jewish await their messiah ANTICHRIST!

The Muslims and Christians await JESUS!
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May I ask, since you seem civilized, why the ingrained hatred of the jewish people?

Doesn't your book speak of when it all hits the fan, the rocks will tell you when a jewish is hiding behind it?

Do you consider Moses and Noah to be noble figures? What did Moses do? He saved the jewish people, and by your definition, he saved evil, correct?

I'm with you brother on the fact that we misunderstand each other, but the religion you compare to mine has differences on what is acceptable. We don't condider beheading because of being a different religion an acceptable solution. Neither is stoning a girl for being raped. If the girl sinned, she will answer for it, not up to you.

Thanks for the discourse, sorry if I get a bit raw with it on occation.

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Yes, Moses saved the jewish people. But it was the TRUE jewish people. Who worshipped the real One God as per the Torah in their time.

Bro, the Torah/Bible/Quran are like editions of a textbook.

When the torah was sent down, and when Moses(A.S.) left, the real rabbis were imprisoned, the Torah was corrupted, and burned. So now the false book remained.

But whoever worshipped the ONE GOD ALONE, even as a jewish, was promised and guaranteed Heaven.

When Jesus(A.S.) came along, every jewish/non-religious person HAD to accept what he brought along, just as every jewish/Christian/non-religious has to accept what Muhammad(saw) brough along, the FINAL EDITION TO GOD's BOOK.

The Bible was corrupted by PAUL, a jewish who OPENLY DESPISED christianity.

But God in the Quran states :Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian. 15:9

So because the Quran, the FINAL BOOK, is directly protected by God Himself, Satan cannot have it corrupted. Thats why his only resorts are to create hatred against Islam(terrorism) and WITHIN ISLAM (sunni shia wahabi sects)

As for the jewish people who will hide behind rocks, that refers to the jewish people who will worship the ANTICHRIST.

Jesus will track down and kill the Antichrist, and all his worshippers will flee. And thus we, true Muslims and Christians who will become Muslim, alongside Jesus will go and kill the jewish people.

It will be Muslims and converted Christians vs Antichrist jewish people.
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Yes, Moses saved the jewish people. But it was the TRUE jewish people. Who worshipped the real One God as per the Torah in their time.

Bro, the Torah/Bible/Quran are like editions of a textbook.

When the torah was sent down, and when Moses(A.S.) left, the real rabbis were imprisoned, the Torah was corrupted, and burned. So now the false book remained.

But whoever worshipped the ONE GOD ALONE, even as a jewish, was promised and guaranteed Heaven.

When Jesus(A.S.) came along, every jewish/non-religious person HAD to accept what he brought along, just as every jewish/Christian/non-religious has to accept what Muhammad(saw) brough along, the FINAL EDITION TO GOD's BOOK.

The Bible was corrupted by PAUL, a jewish who OPENLY DESPISED christianity.

But God in the Quran states :Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian. 15:9

So because the Quran, the FINAL BOOK, is directly protected by God Himself, Satan cannot have it corrupted. Thats why his only resorts are to create hatred against Islam(terrorism) and WITHIN ISLAM (sunni shia wahabi sects)

As for the jewish people who will hide behind rocks, that refers to the jewish people who will worship the ANTICHRIST.

Jesus will track down and kill the Antichrist, and all his worshippers will flee. And thus we, true Muslims and Christians who will become Muslim, alongside Jesus will go and kill the jewish people.

It will be Muslims and converted Christians vs Antichrist jewish people.
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As much as I can read your passion in the above statement, I do disagree. But do honor the depth of your faith.

The true Jewish people are special to God. His chosen people. They are deceived but by my belief is they will figure it out. And I do have a bunch of hope for them.

I do agree, Jesus will make things right. But I doubt I will become a Muslim after the fact. I hope you understand, but I have the highest hopes for your soul.
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Bro, Jesus was always a Muslim.

Do you want to know what "Muslim" means?

It simply means "One who submits to God".

Every single Prophet, from Adam to Muhammad(saw), all Submitted to God. They did Muslim, what it means to be Muslim.

When the jewish people wanted Jesus crucified, Allah(swt)/God commanded Angel Gabriel to carry Jesus into the Heavens and instead make Judah to look like Jesus, because he betrayed Jesus, he suffered the cruxifiction instead, the jewish people thought he was Jesus because he was made to look and sound like him.


Jesus' job remains, to return.

When the USA and Illuminati finally establish Israel, the Antichrist will arrive and propose himself as the MESSIAH (the jewish people will celebrate). Then he will propose himself as God and go all over the world, people will worship him without a second thought.

Imam Mahdi will arrive to gather an army against Antichrist.

And when the antichrist becomes god on earth, Jesus will return, HISTORY WILL REPEAT! In his first coming, his cousin John the Baptist recongized him, and said "there he is, the Messiah", but in his second coming, his cousin Imam Mahdi(also known as Imam Muhammad), will recognize Jesus and say "there he is, the Messiah", as Jesus descends with his hands on two angels, his reddish hair, white skin, average height, slender body, his forehead sweating, he will shake his head and sweat will fly like pearls.
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Bro, Jesus was always a Muslim.

Do you want to know what "Muslim" means?

It simply means "One who submits to God".

Every single Prophet, from Adam to Muhammad(saw), all Submitted to God. They did Muslim, what it means to be Muslim.

When the jewish people wanted Jesus crucified, Allah(swt)/God commanded Angel Gabriel to carry Jesus into the Heavens and instead make Judah to look like Jesus, because he betrayed Jesus, he suffered the cruxifiction instead, the jewish people thought he was Jesus because he was made to look and sound like him.


Jesus' job remains, to return.

When the USA and Illuminati finally establish Israel, the Antichrist will arrive and propose himself as the MESSIAH (the jewish people will celebrate). Then he will propose himself as God and go all over the world, people will worship him without a second thought.

Imam Mahdi will arrive to gather an army against Antichrist.

And when the antichrist becomes god on earth, Jesus will return, HISTORY WILL REPEAT! In his first coming, his cousin John the Baptist recongized him, and said "there he is, the Messiah", but in his second coming, his cousin Imam Mahdi(also known as Imam Muhammad), will recognize Jesus and say "there he is, the Messiah", as Jesus descends with his hands on two angels, his reddish hair, white skin, average height, slender body, his forehead sweating, he will shake his head and sweat will fly like pearls.
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Well, that is where you and I differ. Jesus died on the cross and was lifted to heaven. He wasn't replaced as a stage prop.

I do agree that "Jesus' job remains, to return."... I think on that day, we will both have our answers. Good luck to you and know we will welcome you in if you choose to do so.

It was very refreshing to talk to a Musilm that understands civilized discourse. It was a pleasure to meet you and hope the best for you and your family.

/God Bless.

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Jesus was never crucified, even in the Bible it proves it.


I pray to Allah(SWT) that you find the right path as my other Christian friend recently did on August 16th 2011, in Ramazan.

Read this as well, you cannot rebuke any of it trust me:
[link to www.answering-christianity.com]
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I never usually reply on threads like this because I won't argue with someone who will never listen to what I say, or change his opinion when he hears something different than what he believes. I have only two things to add to this conversation. I have been an ordained Christian minister for nearly 25 years. I know the Bible and I know Jesus personally. I've read parts of the Quran and the Talmud. There is nothing in them that even remotely agrees with God's Word, the Bible.

Second, Jesus was the living Son of the Living God. He lived a sinless life of perfection and sacrificed that life so that sinners like you and I can be saved. Jesus Christ was more than a mere man. He was God incarnate. No matter what anyone may say or do in this life, He will never be brought down to the level of any man or any man's false gods. It grieves God to see men who are deceived into thinking they can make Mohamed, the prophets, or any man equal to Jesus.

Please do not think this is an attack. I have no ill feelings. Thank you for your thread.
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“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord’, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven” (Matthew 7:21)

“And the Father himself, which hath sent me, bore witness of Me. You have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape” (John 5:37)

“And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.” (Mark 10:18)

“And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges.” (John 8:50)

“ Jesus answered them and said, “my doctrine are not Mine, but His who sent Me” (John 7:16)

“he who does not love me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine but the Father’s who sent me” (John 14:24)

“For I have not spoken on My own authority; but the Father who sent Me gave Me a command, what I should say and what I should speak” (John 12:49)

“Jesus said to them, ‘My food is to do the will of Him who sent me, and to accomplish His work” (John 4:34)

“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent me” (John 6:38)

“saying, ‘Father, if it is your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless, not My will, but Yours, be done” (Luke 22:42)

“I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me” (John 5:30)

“I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him” (John 13:16)

“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I” (John 14:28)

“Jesus said to them, ‘If God were your Father, you would love me, for I proceeded and came forth from God; I came not of my own accord, but he sent me” (John 8:42)

“To sit at my right hand and at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by my Father” (Matthew 20:23)

“So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me” (John 7:16)



Enough said. Jesus, one of God's greatest Prophet himself denied Godship, AND HE WILL DENY YOU ON DAY OF JUDGEMENT

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All About The Quran

The Quran is a Divine Miracle of Literature [Prophesy - Science - Warnings - Wisdom - Truths]...and it has been Preserved 100% In the Original Language - for over 1,400 years!

Humanity has received Divine Guidance only through two channels:

The Word of Almighty God ("Allah" [in Arabic]) [scriptures, Bible, Psalms, etc.]
The Prophets sent by the Allah to communicate His Will to mankind

These two things have always been going together, hand in hand.

More important though, there were at that time, tens of thousands of his companions ("sahabi" in Arabic) who memorized the complete Quran from the instruction of the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Even the prophet himself (peace be upon him) used to recite it with angel Gabriel once a year and in the last year of his life he recited it two times just before the month in which he died.

Next, the leader who came after the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) (Abu Bakr) entrusted the collection of the Quran to be written in one volume by one of the Prophet's scribe, Zaid Ibn Thabit. He kept it till his death. Then the next leader, Umar and after him to his daughter, Hafsa who had been one of the wives of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

Then from the original text which now resides in Topkope Museum, in Istanbul, Turkey, the next leader, Uthman prepared several other exact duplications and sent them to various Muslim territories such as; Uzbekistan and Turkey and other places. These scriptures are still in museums there and one has found its way to a museum in England as well. All of them are exactly the same. Today many of the Muslims from these areas are still memorizing the Quran.

The Quran was so meticulously preserved because it is the Book of Guidance for all of humanity for all times. That is why it does not address just the Arabs, in whose language it was revealed. In fact Arabs today do not comprise more than 13% of the Today of Muslims in the world today.



The Quran speaks to "mankind"

Quran speaks to all of mankind on a general basis without regard to race, tribe, color, social position, financial condition or genealogy.

Allah the Almighty says:

"O Mankind! What has seduced you from your Lord so Generous?"

[Noble Quran 82:6]




The Practical Teachings of the Quran

Teachings of Quran are established by the example of Muhammad (peace be upon him) and the good Muslims throughout the ages have endeavored to emulate his teachings both in thought and conduct.

The distinctive approach of the Quran is that its instructions are aimed at the general welfare of the mankind and are based on the possibilities within his reach.



The Quran is Wisdom Conclusive.

It neither condemns nor tortures the flesh nor does it neglect the soul.
It does not humanize God, nor does it deify man.
Everything is carefully placed where it belongs in the total scheme of creation.

Yet it obviously is not written in human style (chronological order). Those who would claim that the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the author of the Quran are claiming something that is humanly impossible.

How could any person of the 7th century utter such scientific truths as those found in the Quran?
Could he describe the evolution of the embryo inside the uterus so accurately as we find it now recorded in modern science?

[See: Dr. Keith Moore's book - on embryology]


Secondly, is it logical to believe that Muhammad (peace be upon him) who up to the age of forty was marked only for his honesty and integrity, began all of a sudden the authorship of a book matchless in literary merit and the equivalent of which the whole legion of the Arab poets and orators of the highest caliber could not produce?

And lastly, is it justified to say that Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was known as "Al-Ameen" (trustworthy) in his society and who is still admired by the non-Muslim scholars for his honesty, would lie about receiving the Quran (which forbids lying) from the Angel Gabriel and then still be able to establish the best human society on the face of the earth, based on truth?

Surely, any sincere and unbiased searcher of truth must come to the conclusion that the Quran is the revealed Book of Almighty Allah.

Readers can easily see how the modern world is coming closer to reality regarding the truth of the Quran.
We appeal to all open minded scholars to study the Quran in the light of the aforementioned points.
We invite all to challenge the validity and accuracy of the sciences known to man today and keep in mind that this is the EXACT TEXT used by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) over one thousand four hundred years ago.

We are sure that any such attempt will convince the reader that the Quran could never have been written by any human being ever.
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All About The Quran

The Quran is a Divine Miracle of Literature [Prophesy - Science - Warnings - Wisdom - Truths]...and it has been Preserved 100% In the Original Language - for over 1,400 years!

Humanity has received Divine Guidance only through two channels:

The Word of Almighty God ("Allah" [in Arabic]) [scriptures, Bible, Psalms, etc.]
The Prophets sent by the Allah to communicate His Will to mankind

These two things have always been going together, hand in hand.

More important though, there were at that time, tens of thousands of his companions ("sahabi" in Arabic) who memorized the complete Quran from the instruction of the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Even the prophet himself (peace be upon him) used to recite it with angel Gabriel once a year and in the last year of his life he recited it two times just before the month in which he died.

Next, the leader who came after the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) (Abu Bakr) entrusted the collection of the Quran to be written in one volume by one of the Prophet's scribe, Zaid Ibn Thabit. He kept it till his death. Then the next leader, Umar and after him to his daughter, Hafsa who had been one of the wives of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

Then from the original text which now resides in Topkope Museum, in Istanbul, Turkey, the next leader, Uthman prepared several other exact duplications and sent them to various Muslim territories such as; Uzbekistan and Turkey and other places. These scriptures are still in museums there and one has found its way to a museum in England as well. All of them are exactly the same. Today many of the Muslims from these areas are still memorizing the Quran.

The Quran was so meticulously preserved because it is the Book of Guidance for all of humanity for all times. That is why it does not address just the Arabs, in whose language it was revealed. In fact Arabs today do not comprise more than 13% of the Today of Muslims in the world today.



The Quran speaks to "mankind"

Quran speaks to all of mankind on a general basis without regard to race, tribe, color, social position, financial condition or genealogy.

Allah the Almighty says:

"O Mankind! What has seduced you from your Lord so Generous?"

[Noble Quran 82:6]




The Practical Teachings of the Quran

Teachings of Quran are established by the example of Muhammad (peace be upon him) and the good Muslims throughout the ages have endeavored to emulate his teachings both in thought and conduct.

The distinctive approach of the Quran is that its instructions are aimed at the general welfare of the mankind and are based on the possibilities within his reach.



The Quran is Wisdom Conclusive.

It neither condemns nor tortures the flesh nor does it neglect the soul.
It does not humanize God, nor does it deify man.
Everything is carefully placed where it belongs in the total scheme of creation.

Yet it obviously is not written in human style (chronological order). Those who would claim that the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the author of the Quran are claiming something that is humanly impossible.

How could any person of the 7th century utter such scientific truths as those found in the Quran?
Could he describe the evolution of the embryo inside the uterus so accurately as we find it now recorded in modern science?

[See: Dr. Keith Moore's book - on embryology]


Secondly, is it logical to believe that Muhammad (peace be upon him) who up to the age of forty was marked only for his honesty and integrity, began all of a sudden the authorship of a book matchless in literary merit and the equivalent of which the whole legion of the Arab poets and orators of the highest caliber could not produce?

And lastly, is it justified to say that Muhammad (peace be upon him) who was known as "Al-Ameen" (trustworthy) in his society and who is still admired by the non-Muslim scholars for his honesty, would lie about receiving the Quran (which forbids lying) from the Angel Gabriel and then still be able to establish the best human society on the face of the earth, based on truth?

Surely, any sincere and unbiased searcher of truth must come to the conclusion that the Quran is the revealed Book of Almighty Allah.

Readers can easily see how the modern world is coming closer to reality regarding the truth of the Quran.
We appeal to all open minded scholars to study the Quran in the light of the aforementioned points.
We invite all to challenge the validity and accuracy of the sciences known to man today and keep in mind that this is the EXACT TEXT used by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) over one thousand four hundred years ago.

We are sure that any such attempt will convince the reader that the Quran could never have been written by any human being ever.
 Quoting: Jesus_Muhammad_BrothersInFaith


But you competely skip the step that Jesus is the Son of God. You guys got most of it right, but left out the good part of the whole story.

/Still have the highest respect but can't turn down a good trolling.
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Bro, he was never son of God.

God (Allah) created 4 Divine Laws for us to understand His Divinity.

Adam was created WITHOUT a male or female
Eve was created by ONE male, and no female
Jesus was created by no male, but ONE female.
ALL OF US, are created by ONE MALE, ONE FEMALE.


No male/no female, one male/no female, no male/one female/ one male/one female.

Do you get it?


God (ALLAH), is NOT CREATED, nor is he part of Creation. For Him to be His creation, would not befit Him and His Glory.


Jesus(a.s.)(peace be upon him), was, is and always will be a Muslim, a Prophet and Servant of God, and on Day of Judgement, Jesus himself will deny all of his worshippers and say "You did what I never commanded you to do so".

Allah (SWT) will ask Jesus "Did you tell them to worship me?"

And Jesus will reply "No, never would I say such a thing that I had no right to say!"


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Allah is not God of the Bible

1) The views of God in Islam and Christianity differ in how they describe God. This is our first clue that the God of Christianity and Islam are not the same God.
2)The Christian God YHWH is certainly knowable. In Islam, Allah cannot be known at all.
3)Islam teaches the creation of a Muslim empire and the use of lethal force against opponents. The God of the Bible affirms that His kingdom is not of this world and commands that Christians love those who oppose them (John 18:34 and Matthew 5:44).
4)The Quran often contradicts the Bible. It denies that Jesus was God incarnate or that he died on the cross for the forgiveness of sins.
5) The Christian God never contradicts Himself in the Bible. Allah contradicts himsel in numerous passages.

The Koran's Allah has nothing to do with God of the Bible. He is not the same.

I wish you peace and love, but if you cannot see that Mohammed gave you a different god than the Holy Bible, I can only pray for peace.
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Allah is not God of the Bible

1) The views of God in Islam and Christianity differ in how they describe God. This is our first clue that the God of Christianity and Islam are not the same God.
2)The Christian God YHWH is certainly knowable. In Islam, Allah cannot be known at all.
3)Islam teaches the creation of a Muslim empire and the use of lethal force against opponents. The God of the Bible affirms that His kingdom is not of this world and commands that Christians love those who oppose them (John 18:34 and Matthew 5:44).
4)The Quran often contradicts the Bible. It denies that Jesus was God incarnate or that he died on the cross for the forgiveness of sins.
5) The Christian God never contradicts Himself in the Bible. Allah contradicts himsel in numerous passages.

The Koran's Allah has nothing to do with God of the Bible. He is not the same.

I wish you peace and love, but if you cannot see that Mohammed gave you a different god than the Holy Bible, I can only pray for peace.
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Well said.
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Bro, he was never son of God.

God (Allah) created 4 Divine Laws for us to understand His Divinity.

Adam was created WITHOUT a male or female
Eve was created by ONE male, and no female
Jesus was created by no male, but ONE female.
ALL OF US, are created by ONE MALE, ONE FEMALE.


No male/no female, one male/no female, no male/one female/ one male/one female.

Do you get it?


God (ALLAH), is NOT CREATED, nor is he part of Creation. For Him to be His creation, would not befit Him and His Glory.


Jesus(a.s.)(peace be upon him), was, is and always will be a Muslim, a Prophet and Servant of God, and on Day of Judgement, Jesus himself will deny all of his worshippers and say "You did what I never commanded you to do so".

Allah (SWT) will ask Jesus "Did you tell them to worship me?"

And Jesus will reply "No, never would I say such a thing that I had no right to say!"

 Quoting: Jesus_Muhammad_BrothersInFaith


Well, this is the point that we will never agree on. To me, Jesus is Lord. I see him as God. Not as a substitution or interpreter for him, but God. He is a projection, creation, a part of God himself. He and the Holy Ghost are parts of God also, They make the Trinity. They preach love and accepting your neighbor for what they are. Turn the other cheek and all that. For people that are confused by all that is happening now, come out of their system. If you are a slave to debt, pay it off. Don't take on more. Ask for what you need the most. Very scary prayer. Most of the time, most folks need a swift kick in the ass, as opposed to winning the lottery. That's what I got multiple times, but now, life is perfect.

I have hope for you brother. You are looking at things with intelect. Keep seeking truth and wisdom. You will find it.
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Listen, bro, I am a moderate Muslim. I have many, many friends of many different faiths.

I've lived amongst Christians and Muslims, here in Brooklyn NY, for 12 years. We all live in harmony, get along beautifully.

But bro, Jesus was never son of God. YOU are my brother from another faith, a faith which was supposed to be ONE ALL ALONG.

SAUL, a jewish, (later PAUL) was a man of Satan. A false prophet. YOU know he hated Christianity, and being Satan's man, he was ordered to go infiltrate and corrupt the Message of Jesus, the REAL JESUS who PREACHED ONE GOD.


Do you not see!? So many Gospels taken out, burned? So many messages burned? The Bible even now saying God has no son? he Quran over and over saying God has no son?

THINK ABOUT it bro.THINK.

WHAT DOESNT fit the picture?
 Quoting: Blessed with what you hate


Jesus is the Son of God.

And yes, Paul is a deceiver. However, I believe it would have been God's will to have the New Testament exactly the way it is. Why? Because God is in charge of everything.

If you follow Jesus' and God's Words as Truth, you can then see the deception. If you don't, you won't.
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Listen, bro, I am a moderate Muslim. I have many, many friends of many different faiths.

I've lived amongst Christians and Muslims, here in Brooklyn NY, for 12 years. We all live in harmony, get along beautifully.

But bro, Jesus was never son of God. YOU are my brother from another faith, a faith which was supposed to be ONE ALL ALONG.

SAUL, a jewish, (later PAUL) was a man of Satan. A false prophet. YOU know he hated Christianity, and being Satan's man, he was ordered to go infiltrate and corrupt the Message of Jesus, the REAL JESUS who PREACHED ONE GOD.


Do you not see!? So many Gospels taken out, burned? So many messages burned? The Bible even now saying God has no son? he Quran over and over saying God has no son?

THINK ABOUT it bro.THINK.

WHAT DOESNT fit the picture?
 Quoting: Blessed with what you hate


Jesus is the Son of God.

And yes, Paul is a deceiver. However, I believe it would have been God's will to have the New Testament exactly the way it is. Why? Because God is in charge of everything.

If you follow Jesus' and God's Words as Truth, you can then see the deception. If you don't, you won't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555756


That is very true, and I've noticed it over and over. Most folks don't see when they are being deceived. Kind of scary. I simply trust in the Lord, and it all seems to work.
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This thread has been making page one on the glp for several days although the thread itself hasn't yet even made page 2. I wonder why?
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This thread has been making page one on the glp for several days although the thread itself hasn't yet even made page 2. I wonder why?
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My guess would be that we have sometimes we have a 12 to 24 hour gap in replies due to having to sleep, work, etc.. heh.
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I respect all others' religions, and hope that other people of different faiths will respect my beliefs too. We are all children of God, no matter what you call him or how you choose to worship him.
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Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them both) are brothers in FAITH! Do not compare the two please.

Moses, Jesus, Muhammad.
Three men. One Mission. Submission to the One and Only God.


[link to www.allahsquran.com]

^Probably THE most beautifully coded, elegant Quran website to exist. Please check it out.

We need to spread LOVE AND UNITY. Satan's weapon is HATRED AND DISUNITY. The Illuminati DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
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Sorry man, Jesus was the son of God. Noah was God's servant. Still trying to figure out what Mohammad was. Peace be with you too.
 Quoting: Borian

So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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I never usually reply on threads like this because I won't argue with someone who will never listen to what I say, or change his opinion when he hears something different than what he believes. I have only two things to add to this conversation. I have been an ordained Christian minister for nearly 25 years. I know the Bible and I know Jesus personally. I've read parts of the Quran and the Talmud. There is nothing in them that even remotely agrees with God's Word, the Bible.

Second, Jesus was the living Son of the Living God. He lived a sinless life of perfection and sacrificed that life so that sinners like you and I can be saved. Jesus Christ was more than a mere man. He was God incarnate. No matter what anyone may say or do in this life, He will never be brought down to the level of any man or any man's false gods. It grieves God to see men who are deceived into thinking they can make Mohamed, the prophets, or any man equal to Jesus.

Please do not think this is an attack. I have no ill feelings. Thank you for your thread.
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Defending one made-up religion against another made up religion.

Cool story sis
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Muslims are not the enemy.

The Elite/Illuminati is controlled by SATAN, and SATAN knows the Truth of God and divides us again and again!

This Christians vs Muslims has been created by Satan/Lucifer/Iblees to create an forever on-going war between us. Look at us, look at how weak we've become, how easily we have fallen into the trap. HUMANS KILLING HUMANS! HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE!?

In the Qur'an, Christians are often referred to as among the "People of the Book," i.e. people who have received and believed in previous revelation from God's prophets. There are verses that highlight the commonalities between Christians and Muslims, and other verses that warn Christians against sliding towards polytheism in their worship of Jesus Christ.

"Surely those who believe, and those who are jewish people, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

"O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed" (61:14).

Warnings:

"If only they [i.e. Christians] had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course, but many of them follow a course that is evil" (5:66).

"Oh People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion, nor say of God anything but the truth. Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was (no more than) a messenger of God, and His Word which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him. So believe in God and His messengers. Say not, 'Trinity.' Desist! It will be better for you, for God is One God, Glory be to Him! (Far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs" (4:171).

"The jewish people call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is but a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them; how they are deluded away from the Truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of God, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary. Yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him! (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)" (9:30-31).



Please wake up. End this Muslim vs Christian thing. Read the Noble Qur'an. Just ONCE read it full heartedly in its complete, with NO BIAS and CLEAN intention to learn. This world is a dangerous place. Without understanding, we will never make it through.
 Quoting: Blessed with what you hate


Most Christian know this bro, and all elders know this. Sure there are exceptions, but those screaming and ranting that Islam is the root of all evil, then attends a Christian church on Sunday, is but a PRACTICING Christian.

There will always be slow learners. Please deal with them at a level in which they comprehend.
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Muslims are not the enemy.

The Elite/Illuminati is controlled by SATAN, and SATAN knows the Truth of God and divides us again and again!

This Christians vs Muslims has been created by Satan/Lucifer/Iblees to create an forever on-going war between us. Look at us, look at how weak we've become, how easily we have fallen into the trap. HUMANS KILLING HUMANS! HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE!?

In the Qur'an, Christians are often referred to as among the "People of the Book," i.e. people who have received and believed in previous revelation from God's prophets. There are verses that highlight the commonalities between Christians and Muslims, and other verses that warn Christians against sliding towards polytheism in their worship of Jesus Christ.

"Surely those who believe, and those who are jewish people, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

"O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed" (61:14).

Warnings:

"If only they [i.e. Christians] had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course, but many of them follow a course that is evil" (5:66).

"Oh People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion, nor say of God anything but the truth. Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was (no more than) a messenger of God, and His Word which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him. So believe in God and His messengers. Say not, 'Trinity.' Desist! It will be better for you, for God is One God, Glory be to Him! (Far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs" (4:171).

"The jewish people call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is but a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them; how they are deluded away from the Truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of God, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary. Yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him! (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)" (9:30-31).



Please wake up. End this Muslim vs Christian thing. Read the Noble Qur'an. Just ONCE read it full heartedly in its complete, with NO BIAS and CLEAN intention to learn. This world is a dangerous place. Without understanding, we will never make it through.
 Quoting: Blessed with what you hate


Most Christian know this bro, and all elders know this. Sure there are exceptions, but those screaming and ranting that Islam is the root of all evil, then attends a Christian church on Sunday, is but a PRACTICING Christian.

There will always be slow learners. Please deal with them at a level in which they comprehend.
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Attending church on Sunday has NOTHING to do with Christianity. That shit was hijacked by Rome. The Sabbath hence the word in Spanish Sabado is actually Saturday.

I follow the son of God...yes the SON OF GOD Yahushua Hamashiach...Jesus Christ. The "prophet" that taught the complete opposite of the warlord MO.
So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16
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NO YOU WRONG ISLAM WAS CREATED BY LUCIFER IT IS A CULT NOT A RELEGION
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Muslims are not the enemy.

The Elite/Illuminati is controlled by SATAN, and SATAN knows the Truth of God and divides us again and again!

This Christians vs Muslims has been created by Satan/Lucifer/Iblees to create an forever on-going war between us. Look at us, look at how weak we've become, how easily we have fallen into the trap. HUMANS KILLING HUMANS! HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE!?

In the Qur'an, Christians are often referred to as among the "People of the Book," i.e. people who have received and believed in previous revelation from God's prophets. There are verses that highlight the commonalities between Christians and Muslims, and other verses that warn Christians against sliding towards polytheism in their worship of Jesus Christ.

"Surely those who believe, and those who are jewish people, and the Christians, and the Sabians -- whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

"...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

"O you who believe! Be helpers of God -- as Jesus the son of Mary said to the Disciples, 'Who will be my helpers in (the work of) God?' Said the disciples, 'We are God's helpers!' Then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved. But We gave power to those who believed, against their enemies, and they became the ones that prevailed" (61:14).

Warnings:

"If only they [i.e. Christians] had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course, but many of them follow a course that is evil" (5:66).

"Oh People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion, nor say of God anything but the truth. Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, was (no more than) a messenger of God, and His Word which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him. So believe in God and His messengers. Say not, 'Trinity.' Desist! It will be better for you, for God is One God, Glory be to Him! (Far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs" (4:171).

"The jewish people call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is but a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them; how they are deluded away from the Truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of God, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary. Yet they were commanded to worship but One God: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him! (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)" (9:30-31).



Please wake up. End this Muslim vs Christian thing. Read the Noble Qur'an. Just ONCE read it full heartedly in its complete, with NO BIAS and CLEAN intention to learn. This world is a dangerous place. Without understanding, we will never make it through.
 Quoting: Blessed with what you hate


Most Christian know this bro, and all elders know this. Sure there are exceptions, but those screaming and ranting that Islam is the root of all evil, then attends a Christian church on Sunday, is but a PRACTICING Christian.

There will always be slow learners. Please deal with them at a level in which they comprehend.
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Most true Christians that I have bumped into have been genuine. I have met my fair share of fakes and liars also. We see Islam as the root of evil because the the actions we see on the news. Some girl gets raped by 5 men in a Muslim country, and they hunt her down and stone her. Likely the guys that got some threw the first stone.

Summed up, that is my problem with Muslims.

News