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Message Subject Why don't you do the math before you tell these kids to not borrow money-- or get a job!
Poster Handle Skeptically Inclined
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Wow, because he agrees OWS has is exercising their right to protest, he supports them and thinks they are great? I can't even follow that logic...it's just so stupid... it's just... just...so....

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 Quoting: Skeptically Inclined



Actually, if you read what he is so inclined to accuse others and myself of then I am just playing the same game he wants to play in here. Sweeping accusations based on ignorance deserves the same disrespect that is given.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
 Quoting: The Crazy One


I have accused you and the other anti-ows of many things yes.

Do I believe in all ows ideas. NO!
Am I happy they are protesting. YES

I get happy anytime I see people exercise their rights especially in today’s age in this country.

Are they all hippy NO
There are many Ron Paul people I have listened to at these protest, but there are tons of other people with many ideas(Some which I do not agree with!)

Because I disagree with some does that mean I should insult these people. NO

What they are mad about, is what every person in this country is mad about or should be.


I am attacking back fierce people who have attacked these kids and people. The news has done nothing but label these people as lazy bums and so have most of you against this movement.

Are some lazy. YES
Are some trashing up places. YES
Are some wanting TOO MUCH FREE STUFF. yes
But not all.

Like I said there are many ideas with the group, but they are off their asses doing something, and I would rather see our tax payer dollars spent giving money to American Citizens (Even IF They Might Not HAVE Done Nothing For It),,, Then spending it on GREEDY Corporations, other countries, WARS, ETC.

Are there people sending money and trying to hi-jack this protest for their own evil agenda. YES

There will always be evil pricks trying to hijack protest for their evil agenda or public support.

By saying "corporations" am I against all business in America. NO

Anyone who has done just a little research knows that there is a pyramid with most corporations. Meaning they are owned by another, which is owned or tied to another.

It leads up in a pyramid fashion into a few super powerful. This is where the money funnels to, and where the control comes from. This includes banking , which all leads up to the fed, world bank.

Despite what you want to believe they do have a monopoly on ALL ASPECTS OF AMERICAN LIFE WHICH = SLAVERY.

Depending on plantation, a lot of slaves back in the day were given permission to grow their own food, have their own rituals, celebrations, etc.

By your own definition, they were free.

When there is no more real competition and a monopoly all over 90% of goods, services, etc, this is no longer capitalism period!!!


Example: MEDICAL FIELD

It doesn't matter who invents or markets what medicine. If you can't get it thru FDA clinical trials, you cannot sell this medicine not matter how great it is.

So no matter how hard you work, or how smart you are, you must have at least 100 million to get to clinical trials first stage. Then if your invention actually cures something, well you are either dead or missing.

Why??? Because there is NO PROFIT IN CURES.

The big pharm corp own the Government FDA. All your big pharm and big medical hospital corporations, medical equipments, etc is all tied in with a big web.

So under our current system NO AMERICAN CITIZEN WILL SEE A CURE FOR ANYTHING EVER!!!! That means someone you love will die from an illness that might have a cure but never came to light under this system.

What a great fucking system. So capitalism is not working here at all. I would not even call it capitalism, but a complete monopoly of the medical field.

So, unless you take the profit out of healing, this system will never change. This would mean by definition socialism in this field. As soon as you say that word everyone shuts their brain down. Well that does not mean I support complete socialism or want the government to run healthcare.

It means the system is broken and corrupt AND I SEE PEOPLE DIE EVERYDAY FROM IT. It needs to be fixed. But sitting on your ass denying a problem sure ain't going to fix this or any other big problems we have. And hoping it will get better with time is not going to happen either.

By the way. I am a medical scientist with a B.S. in that field. I am also a veteran who served 4 years active, 4 inactive. I have worked 7 years in the oilfield to make more money for my wife to go to school. I have worked in fracing and cased hole wireline. In this work I averaged from 80-130 hours a week no B.S. Normally this fell on a 2 on 1 off to sleep and recoup schedule. My wife is about to graduate as a DVM.
The only reason I said this was to show you I sure as hell am not a spoiled brat bum.
And I can promise you that in these two fields of Energy and Medical there is a monopoly big time that is driven by GREED. They don’t care how much of the land and resources they destroy or pollute in the oilfield and they could care less if someone dies from medication or because they have suppressed a cure in the medical. Profit is all they care about, because to them money = power.

I really wish I could sit face to face with some of you and discuss these problems. I wish you could also sit with one of my good buddies who trains with me in martial arts. He is deployed back to Afghanistan and has a lot of interesting input about what is really going on there. Or sit down with another friend who is back in Iraq. He lost his brother there from an IED there and now he is back for a year. HE has some interesting things to tell anyone who will listen about what is REALLY going on there. These two individuals are warriors and trained fighters. They are not hippies or bums and they are sure not cowards. They support Ron Paul and support ANYONE WHO PROTEST WHAT IS GOING ON, NO MATTER HOW MISINFORMED THEY ARE. Because at least they are doing something.

Point being why in the fuck would you be mad at protesters considering what is happening with this country. Why would anyone trash talk them, instead of supporting their first amendment rights, and supporting the fact that something is seriously wrong!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1149035


This. People are so hung up on the ideology of SOME of the OWS crowd, they completely miss the point that there is something VERY, very wrong going on in this country. But hey, we've already had some people in this thread say that everything was just fine and better than ever in fact. I mean, obviously OWS isn't getting anything done, but the fact of the matter is, I don't have any better ideas on how to fix it either. :-/
 
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