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It's pretty easy just go down to lowes and get some aluminum mesh. [link to www.lowes.com]
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Who in the hell 5*ed this BS....come on, WHO?
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Filthy swine want control of every fucking thing.
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Been wanting to find out about those new spy meters and this has lit a fire under me to do so. 5 STARS
thanks OP
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While I can't comment on the potential for such meters to 'spy' on your daily life, I can comment on the RF potential.

Cliff notes version: Your WiFi access point is worse.

These devices pulse (normally) 10 'beacons' per second at you, possibly with such high power levels as 500mW, most often at 100mW, versus these 'smart meters' wireless technology that uses about 1-10mW with a very intermittent signal. In a 'beaconed' network, you end up getting beacons every few HUNDRED seconds when no data is being sent; if data is sent, then yes there is more RF, but again these devices can be idle for minutes at a time.

Regarding the video: In that SAME apartment complex, how many different WiFi networks are there? I've lived places with over 30 different networks viewable at any given point location inside the complex. Each one of these networks, 10 times per second, beaconing their existence to everything within range.

Compare the standards of 802.11, the WiFi RF standard with 802.15.4, the 'low power/low datarate' standard that almost all smart meters and other wireless technologies are based upon.

One is much higher powered, much more constant and supports a much higher data rate. Which one is that? It's the one you have built into your laptop and tablet and likely smartphone.

Which concerns you *more*?

All of these end up being trumped by living within visual distance of a cellular phone transmission tower however.
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I am concerned about this. I am guessing the mesh stops the radiation outward, but would it not still go inside the home?

Any scientist here?
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The power company in Idaho says that their smart meters are "wired" and therefore "safer" than the wireless meters. This is total BS. When a "wired" smart meter was placed on my house I became so fatigued that it was an effort to get dressed in the morning. Along with that came an irregular heartbeat, dizziness, anxiety, constant high pitched buzzing in the ears plus the sound of a low frequency hum similar to an idling diesel engine.

Complaints to the power company were met with total denial that their device was causing this and then I forwarded 5 pages of propaganda regarding the beneficial smart meter. Their explanation still made it clear that the only ones to benefit from these devices are the utility providers and the manufacturers of "smart" appliances. The customer will not benefit in any way.

Just before the smart meter system was turned on in our area numerous new cell towers and high powered antennas were installed all over town and contiune to be installed. The majority of new antennas belong to the power company, their information control company, and the City which is installing "smart" water meters. I purchased a high frequency analyzer to determine if my "wired" meter was truly only wired and anything to do with the plethora of new antennas.

Sure enough, my meter puts out powerful GSM, UMTS, and WLAN wireless signals. Also, my refrigerator emits a WLAN signal. I forgot to mention that since the meter was placed on my house I can no longer use cellphones, WiFi, or WLAN and can no longer access certain areas of town or stores without getting sick. So now my time in the kitchen of my own house is restricted. It also makes no difference if I unplug the refrigerator - that WLAN activated chip inside it keeps on emitting the signal.

The Power lines around town are now using broadband over power line for their "communication". The lines are acting as antenna for cell tower and other wireless signals and carry these into my home. Powerlines are unshielded and unable to contain these high frequencies and therefore the radiation is going into whatever is nearby - be it a house, person, animal, or ground. In fact, in a BPL whitepaper, it refers to the wiring in houses as 'power lines' and your electrical outlets as nodes. So your meter is communicating on your power lines to your nodes collecting info about your "electrical" habits and can sense the occupancy of a home.

The lowest radiofrequency read in my house is 800MHz - that's a constant exposure to microwaves 24/7.

I've had an ENT doctor tell me that my head noise is just tinnitus. It's funny because after spending a week in a cabin without a smart meter that "tinniuts", fatigue, and irregular heartbeat disappeared until I returned home to that smart meter.

BTW, even though the smart meters in an area may look the same and have the same serial numbers, they may be programmed differently. The meters have at least two antennas, they be in a mesh network and you may be the unfortunate one to have the "collector" meter which means that your exposure to radiation will be exponential, but of course, considered safe because of skewed FCC standards. Also, the radiation outside the 'smart meter' house has increased dramatically because of the other meters in the area, BPL on powerlines, and antennas mounted on poles or buildings to collect and transmit smart meter data.

The power companies will soon be closing power plants, citing pollution or climate change concerns. They will produce less power and will charge you much more for it - as soon as they've accomplished their goal of wiring BPL across the continent and placing radiating devices on the majority of homes in America. Then, prepare for the rolling blackouts and the blame being put on you, the consumer, for using too much electricity (water or gas) when in reality you've cut back usage because of the high utility bills.

It's a sadistic plan that cause much suffering and will eventually turn America into a third world country.

Oh, foil faced anything helps to block RF from coming into the house! Aluminum screen is great too.
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I am concerned about this. I am guessing the mesh stops the radiation outward, but would it not still go inside the home?

Any scientist here?
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You mean thru the metal box back?

Its just radio waves.

If radio waves were really dangerous, people would have died enmasse living near 50,000 watt AM radio stations or
near microwave communications relay stations.

Our world has been FULL of this type of "radiation" since the end of WWII.
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The power company in Idaho says that their smart meters are "wired" and therefore "safer" than the wireless meters. This is total BS. When a "wired" smart meter was placed on my house I became so fatigued that it was an effort to get dressed in the morning. Along with that came an irregular heartbeat, dizziness, anxiety, constant high pitched buzzing in the ears plus the sound of a low frequency hum similar to an idling diesel engine.

Complaints to the power company were met with total denial that their device was causing this and then I forwarded 5 pages of propaganda regarding the beneficial smart meter. Their explanation still made it clear that the only ones to benefit from these devices are the utility providers and the manufacturers of "smart" appliances. The customer will not benefit in any way.

Just before the smart meter system was turned on in our area numerous new cell towers and high powered antennas were installed all over town and contiune to be installed. The majority of new antennas belong to the power company, their information control company, and the City which is installing "smart" water meters. I purchased a high frequency analyzer to determine if my "wired" meter was truly only wired and anything to do with the plethora of new antennas.

Sure enough, my meter puts out powerful GSM, UMTS, and WLAN wireless signals. Also, my refrigerator emits a WLAN signal. I forgot to mention that since the meter was placed on my house I can no longer use cellphones, WiFi, or WLAN and can no longer access certain areas of town or stores without getting sick. So now my time in the kitchen of my own house is restricted. It also makes no difference if I unplug the refrigerator - that WLAN activated chip inside it keeps on emitting the signal.

The Power lines around town are now using broadband over power line for their "communication". The lines are acting as antenna for cell tower and other wireless signals and carry these into my home. Powerlines are unshielded and unable to contain these high frequencies and therefore the radiation is going into whatever is nearby - be it a house, person, animal, or ground. In fact, in a BPL whitepaper, it refers to the wiring in houses as 'power lines' and your electrical outlets as nodes. So your meter is communicating on your power lines to your nodes collecting info about your "electrical" habits and can sense the occupancy of a home.

The lowest radiofrequency read in my house is 800MHz - that's a constant exposure to microwaves 24/7.

I've had an ENT doctor tell me that my head noise is just tinnitus. It's funny because after spending a week in a cabin without a smart meter that "tinniuts", fatigue, and irregular heartbeat disappeared until I returned home to that smart meter.

BTW, even though the smart meters in an area may look the same and have the same serial numbers, they may be programmed differently. The meters have at least two antennas, they be in a mesh network and you may be the unfortunate one to have the "collector" meter which means that your exposure to radiation will be exponential, but of course, considered safe because of skewed FCC standards. Also, the radiation outside the 'smart meter' house has increased dramatically because of the other meters in the area, BPL on powerlines, and antennas mounted on poles or buildings to collect and transmit smart meter data.

The power companies will soon be closing power plants, citing pollution or climate change concerns. They will produce less power and will charge you much more for it - as soon as they've accomplished their goal of wiring BPL across the continent and placing radiating devices on the majority of homes in America. Then, prepare for the rolling blackouts and the blame being put on you, the consumer, for using too much electricity (water or gas) when in reality you've cut back usage because of the high utility bills.

It's a sadistic plan that cause much suffering and will eventually turn America into a third world country.

Oh, foil faced anything helps to block RF from coming into the house! Aluminum screen is great too.
 Quoting: GridSick 21722420


re :power companies...i was shocked to be approached by a hydro power compant that happilt touted cloud seeding to gain water for their plant.
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Radio frequency - wireless communication pulsing frequency - has been proven to negatively impact human and animal health.

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Electromagnetic and Radiofrequency Fields
Effect on Human Health



For over 50 years, the American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) has been studying and treating the effects of the environment on human health. In the last 20 years, our physicians began seeing patients who reported that electric power lines, televisions and other electrical devices caused a wide variety of symptoms. By the mid 1990's, it became clear that patients were adversely affected by electromagnetic fields and becoming more electrically sensitive. In the last five years with the advent of wireless devices, there has been a massive increase in radiofrequency (RF) exposure from wireless devices as well as reports of hypersensitivity and diseases related to electromagnetic field and RF exposure. Multiple studies correlate RF exposure with diseases such as cancer, neurological disease, reproductive disorders, immune dysfunction, and electromagnetic hypersensitivity.

The electromagnetic wave spectrum is divided into ionizing radiation such as ultraviolet and X-rays and non-ionizing radiation such as radiofrequency (RF), which includes WiFi, cell phones, and Smart Meter wireless communication. It has long been recognized that ionizing radiation can have a negative impact on health. However, the effects of non-ionizing radiation on human health recently have been seen. Discussions and research of non-ionizing radiation effects centers around thermal and non-thermal effects. According to the FCC and other regulatory agencies, only thermal effects are relevant regarding health implications and consequently, exposure limits are based on thermal effects only.1

While it was practical to regulate thermal bioeffects, it was also stated that non-thermal effects are not well understood and no conclusive scientific evidence points to non-thermal based negative health effects.1 Further arguments are made with respect to RF exposure from WiFi, cell towers and smart meters that due to distance, exposure to these wavelengths are negligible.2 However, many in vitro, in vivo and epidemiological studies demonstrate that significant harmful biological effects occur from non-thermal RF exposure and satisfy Hill's criteria of causality.3 Genetic damage, reproductive defects, cancer, neurological degeneration and nervous system dysfunction, immune system dysfunction, cognitive effects, protein and peptide damage, kidney damage, and developmental effects have all been reported in the peer-reviewed scientific literature.

Genotoxic effects from RF exposure, including studies of non-thermal levels of exposure, consistently and specifically show chromosomal instability, altered gene expression, gene mutations, DNA fragmentation and DNA structural breaks.4-11 A statistically significant dose response effect was demonstrated by Maschevich et al. , who reported a linear increase in aneuploidy as a function of the Specific Absorption Rate(SAR) of RF exposure.11 Genotoxic effects are documented to occur in neurons, blood lymphocytes, sperm, red blood cells, epithelial cells, hematopoietic tissue, lung cells and bone marrow. Adverse developmental effects due to non-thermal RF exposure have been shown with decreased litter size in mice from RF exposure well below safety standards.12 The World Health Organization has classified RF emissions as a group 2 B carcinogen.13 Cellular telephone use in rural areas was also shown to be associated with an increased risk for malignant brain tumors. 14

The fact that RF exposure causes neurological damage has been documented repeatedly. Increased blood-brain barrier permeability and oxidative damage, which are associated with brain cancer and neurodegenerative diseases, have been found.4,7,15-17 Nittby et al. demonstrated a statistically significant dose-response effect between non-thermal RF exposure and occurrence of albumin leak across the blood-brain barrier.15 Changes associated with degenerative neurological diseases such as Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS) have been reported.4,10 Other neurological and cognitive disorders such as headaches, dizziness, tremors, decreased memory and attention, autonomic nervous system dysfunction, decreased reaction times, sleep disturbances and visual disruption have been reported to be statistically significant in multiple epidemiological studies with RF exposure occurring non-locally.18-21

Nephrotoxic effects from RF exposure also have been reported. A dose response effect was observed by Ingole and Ghosh in which RF exposure resulted in mild to extensive degenerative changes in chick embryo kidneys based on duration of RF exposure.24 RF emissions have also been shown to cause isomeric changes in amino acids that can result in nephrotoxicity as well as hepatotoxicity.25

Electromagnetic field (EMF) hypersensitivity has been documented in controlled and double blind studies with exposure to various EMF frequencies. Rea et al. demonstrated that under double blind placebo controlled conditions, 100% of subjects showed reproducible reactions to that frequency to which they were most sensitive.22 Pulsed electromagnetic frequencies were shown to consistently provoke neurological symptoms in a blinded subject while exposure to continuous frequencies did not.23

Although these studies clearly show causality and disprove the claim that health effects from RF exposure are uncertain, there is another mechanism that proves electromagnetic frequencies, including radiofrequencies, can negatively impact human health. Government agencies and industry set safety standards based on the narrow scope of Newtonian or "classical" physics reasoning that the effects of atoms and molecules are confined in space and time. This model supports the theory that a mechanical force acts on a physical object and thus, long-range exposure to EMF and RF cannot have an impact on health if no significant heating occurs. However, this is an incomplete model. A quantum physics model is necessary to fully understand and appreciate how and why EMF and RF fields are harmful to humans.26,27 In quantum physics and quantum field theory, matter can behave as a particle or as a wave with wave-like properties. Matter and electromagnetic fields encompass quantum fields that fluctuate in space and time. These interactions can have long-range effects which cannot be shielded, are non-linear and by their quantum nature have uncertainty. Living systems, including the human body, interact with the magnetic vector potential component of an electromagnetic field such as the field near a toroidal coil.26,28,29 The magnetic vector potential is the coupling pathway between biological systems and electromagnetic fields.26,27 Once a patient's specific threshold of intensity has been exceeded, it is the frequency which triggers the patient's reactions.

Long range EMF or RF forces can act over large distances setting a biological system oscillating in phase with the frequency of the electromagnetic field so it adapts with consequences to other body systems. This also may produce an electromagnetic frequency imprint into the living system that can be long lasting.26,27,30 Research using objective instrumentation has shown that even passive resonant circuits can imprint a frequency into water and biological systems.31 These quantum electrodynamic effects do exist and may explain the adverse health effects seen with EMF and RF exposure. These EMF and RF quantum field effects have not been adequately studied and are not fully understood regarding human health.

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Which concerns you *more*?

All of these end up being trumped by living within visual distance of a cellular phone transmission tower however.

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The average TV tower Broadcasting antena emits over 500,000 Watts !!! Half a million watts ! And they built houses around it .

The good thing is that EM radiation is inverse proportional with distance Exponentially , so that power dicreases very fast with distance ...
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OMG! I requested and paid extra for the non-wireless SM to be safer and I am regretting it. Ever since they installed it, my issues are the same as this person. Its like living in an electrical slow cooker. We drove two hours down state on saturday and the tinnitus all but disappeared. On the way back home we could feel and hear the tinnitus building about 60 miles from home until it was painful again like before we left. Unbelievable! I requested a wireless meter to replace mine. I can at least mitigate the RF but this PLC in killing us slowly. How can this be happening?

The power company in Idaho says that their smart meters are "wired" and therefore "safer" than the wireless meters. This is total BS. When a "wired" smart meter was placed on my house I became so fatigued that it was an effort to get dressed in the morning. Along with that came an irregular heartbeat, dizziness, anxiety, constant high pitched buzzing in the ears plus the sound of a low frequency hum similar to an idling diesel engine.

Complaints to the power company were met with total denial that their device was causing this and then I forwarded 5 pages of propaganda regarding the beneficial smart meter. Their explanation still made it clear that the only ones to benefit from these devices are the utility providers and the manufacturers of "smart" appliances. The customer will not benefit in any way.

Just before the smart meter system was turned on in our area numerous new cell towers and high powered antennas were installed all over town and contiune to be installed. The majority of new antennas belong to the power company, their information control company, and the City which is installing "smart" water meters. I purchased a high frequency analyzer to determine if my "wired" meter was truly only wired and anything to do with the plethora of new antennas.

Sure enough, my meter puts out powerful GSM, UMTS, and WLAN wireless signals. Also, my refrigerator emits a WLAN signal. I forgot to mention that since the meter was placed on my house I can no longer use cellphones, WiFi, or WLAN and can no longer access certain areas of town or stores without getting sick. So now my time in the kitchen of my own house is restricted. It also makes no difference if I unplug the refrigerator - that WLAN activated chip inside it keeps on emitting the signal.

The Power lines around town are now using broadband over power line for their "communication". The lines are acting as antenna for cell tower and other wireless signals and carry these into my home. Powerlines are unshielded and unable to contain these high frequencies and therefore the radiation is going into whatever is nearby - be it a house, person, animal, or ground. In fact, in a BPL whitepaper, it refers to the wiring in houses as 'power lines' and your electrical outlets as nodes. So your meter is communicating on your power lines to your nodes collecting info about your "electrical" habits and can sense the occupancy of a home.

The lowest radiofrequency read in my house is 800MHz - that's a constant exposure to microwaves 24/7.

I've had an ENT doctor tell me that my head noise is just tinnitus. It's funny because after spending a week in a cabin without a smart meter that "tinniuts", fatigue, and irregular heartbeat disappeared until I returned home to that smart meter.

BTW, even though the smart meters in an area may look the same and have the same serial numbers, they may be programmed differently. The meters have at least two antennas, they be in a mesh network and you may be the unfortunate one to have the "collector" meter which means that your exposure to radiation will be exponential, but of course, considered safe because of skewed FCC standards. Also, the radiation outside the 'smart meter' house has increased dramatically because of the other meters in the area, BPL on powerlines, and antennas mounted on poles or buildings to collect and transmit smart meter data.

The power companies will soon be closing power plants, citing pollution or climate change concerns. They will produce less power and will charge you much more for it - as soon as they've accomplished their goal of wiring BPL across the continent and placing radiating devices on the majority of homes in America. Then, prepare for the rolling blackouts and the blame being put on you, the consumer, for using too much electricity (water or gas) when in reality you've cut back usage because of the high utility bills.

It's a sadistic plan that cause much suffering and will eventually turn America into a third world country.

Oh, foil faced anything helps to block RF from coming into the house! Aluminum screen is great too.
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Foils, metal siding, metal mesh for walls, RF blocking paints - look on websites like lessEMF.com, safeliving..- will block most RF to a certain extent from entering the building. Special window film can be applied to windows, and if you're building a house be sure to request Low-E glass which has metal which blocks RF/MV.

Once you shield a room be sure and keep your own RF/Microwave devices out or the frequencies will not be able to exit the room but will bounce around until absorbed. Keep your cellphone - if you use one- in the garage and only use outside of the shielded rooms. New digital flat screen TV's now have a wireless setting that would need to be turned off plus they continue to pulse RF when turned off to standby with a remote. Hardwire your computer router and run ethernet cables to network. X-BOXes and Playstations give off continuos powerful microwave Wifi signals until you physically unplug the devices. Use your wired computer to play video games instead.

RF/MV blocking bed canopies are great for a good night's sleep where your body can recuperate from this microwave gone mad world. You would need to put blocking material under the bed, too, if you're not on a ground floor since RF from below can enter.

If you're able purchase a good high frequency analyzer meter so that you're able to check that all devices are off and to test the smart meters. Most that I've checked send the signals outward and to the sides which then enter back into the house. I haven't seen a wireless smart meter yet which sends the signals directly behind itself. The wired power line communication smart meters do send their radiation directly behind itself and front and sides.

What Wifi sounds like (a machine gun!):
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best way is to not allow the installation

they are starting here this summer BUT you have to pay an extra fee for the privilege of owning one. $10/month on your bill for forever.

sheep will want this new technology because they are addicted to new electronic shit

none coming on my house...ever!
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I am concerned about this. I am guessing the mesh stops the radiation outward, but would it not still go inside the home?

Any scientist here?
 Quoting: ghostinthemachine


You mean thru the metal box back?

Its just radio waves.

If radio waves were really dangerous, people would have died enmasse living near 50,000 watt AM radio stations or
near microwave communications relay stations.

Our world has been FULL of this type of "radiation" since the end of WWII.
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yep, these metertards really have NO idea how much RF they are exposed to 24/7/365

all you can do is laugh!
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The average TV tower Broadcasting antena emits over 500,000 Watts !!! Half a million watts ! And they built houses around it .
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9teen They also build houses under HT power lines, dosn't make it right though.

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