One sentence that will prove you are not free.

This argument even has moral grounds to stand on.

It is wrong to steal.
The government does what you or I would be sent to prison for.

They befuddle us with incorrect definitions. Most think a word means one thing, when they mean it as another. It's all word magic, say a thing enough and the proles believe it. It's how they lie and say they didn't with good conscience. Obsfucation, dissonance.

Thread: Hagbard Celine's Definitions and Distinctions

Here in Sweden we are free to pay taxes...or just pay them for a specific purpose...for example feeding fat pig politicians! lol

Least Servant

Well, I can see you think you know the law. But you fail.

What part of redeeming federal reserve notes for lawful money do you not understand.

Title 12 USC §411 :
[link to www.law.cornell.edu]
Read:
“Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank. “
(emphasis mine)
This proves that “Lawful Money” and “Legal Tender” are not the same.

So what part for no other purposes do you not understand. So you are either an agent, a bank, or breaking the law if you posses federal reserve notes.

And it clearly states you can redeem them in lawful money. Hmmm. No users fee on lawful money just on FRN's in the form of taxes. Now who is trying to keep who in the dark. sk

I'm done with you Comrad Sparkyov.



Last Edited by Least Servant on 10/17/2011 01:43 PM

Those who demand lawful money rather than engage in signature endorsed contract with the FED, in their own right and by the operation of law found at §16 of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 now codified at Title 12 U.S.C. §411 which is binding law upon the IRS, and any other United States claiming entity, to accept and recognize the non-taxable nature of lawful money of exchange. sk

More name calling I see. hmmmm

What no law quotes to back up your point of view. lol

sk

That makes the bank unable to fractionally lend against your signature which serves as bond against the future interest and party to the national debt. This is what essentially reduces the people of the the United States to chattel.

I'm wool gathering.

Last Edited by Least Servant on 10/17/2011 01:57 PM

For starters everyone must Stop supporting the Churches.
All Churches of every denomination are beholden to the Rome. Spurning them will take away their power; altho not overnite.
(Lots of luck there, I know, but it is an ABSOLUTE MUST)
Without it we are lost.

The Vatican and the Jesuits are 2 of the top dogs of the real PTB. Next beneath them the Secret Societies i.e. the Masons etc. The bankers are all highest ranking members of this group, as are corporate heads. They in turn control governments.

The word 'freedom' has been corrupted and is widely misunderstood.

People have come to accept 'freedom' as a laundry list of "things we are allowed to do." As long as there are some good nuggets on the list, we are 'free'. Of course, the list has a large section of fine print at the bottom, which seems to grow without limit.


In short, we've been deceived into believing that 'freedom' means 'having permission'.

Freedom does not mean having permission. It does not mean having anything. In fact, freedom is all about what you don't have.

Sugar free soda means not having sugar. A free dinner means it has no cost. Fat free means having no fat.

Free means without. What are a truly free people are without? They are without force. A free people are not forced. Period.

Does that describe the American People?

There is only one President in history that has ever paid off the national debt. Andrew Jackson. How did he do it? He took back control of our own currency. He stopped the bank. Debt stopped accumulating, and we were able to pay all outstanding debts before his term ended. Conspiracy

Clearly, you cannot read. United States Code, Chapter 12, subchapter 411.

"1. Issuance of Federal Reserve Notes; Nature of Obligation; Where Redeemable
Federal reserve notes, to be issued at the discretion of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System for the purpose of making advances to Federal reserve banks through the Federal reserve agents as hereinafter set forth and for no other purpose, are hereby authorized. The said notes shall be obligations of the United States and shall be receivable by all national and member banks and Federal reserve banks and for all taxes, customs, and other public dues. They shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States, in the city of Washington, District of Columbia, or at any Federal Reserve bank.
[12 USC 411. As amended by act of Jan. 30, 1934 (48 Stat. 337). For redemption of Federal reserve notes whose bank of issue cannot be identified, see act of June 13, 1933.]"

[link to www.federalreserve.gov]

THAT IS THEIR LAW, right there, spelled out for you. You cannot argue with it, or change it, you CHOOSE not to demand your redemption of Federal Reserve Notes at "any Federal reserve bank".

THAT is how you have volunteered to pay the fee for using them as money. That fee is called "income tax".

You are the liar if you claim otherwise. The Government gives you the choice to contract with the Federal Reserve or demand lawful money.

It is 100% voluntary, legal and lawful.

So suck it.

Freedom means inalienable rights, not privileges granted by law. Many words we throw around need rethinks concerning standard definition. The dissonance of language creates huge communication headaches and many don't speak the same language even if the words are similar.

Freedom is the strawman argument against which anything can be made to be a boogeyman.

Taxes take away your freedom.

Islam takes away your freedom.

Corporations take away your freedom.

X takes away your freedom.

The American freedom sheep will chase after than red white and blue light, all foreign instigators know that Americans will trip over themselves for freedom and more of those dollars.

This thread is a perfect example of how foreign powers can use the power of propaganda against Americans who themselves do not really know the law or how to apply it.

So why are you on the internet trying to convince people this is the case and not out enjoying your FRN-less tax-less freeman lifestyle?

One would think that if it's the law, the experts in the law would know about and live it themselves. Wait, lawyers like being slaves. Oh no, lawyers are the tools of London! That's it!



Last Edited by Least Servant on 10/17/2011 02:06 PM

Can you post links to the bulk of the information? I've been researching but coming up short on certain need - to know shit regarding sovereignty.

And they shot him and attempted to shoot him many times for it!

Abe was most likely killed for his opposition to the Banking Cartel as well.

JFK too?

The argument could be made that even Jesus was killed for nothing more than casting the money changers out of the Temple...

Well, what most don't know is that their tax dollars are used to pay the interest on the debt owed to the federal reserve bank, for loaning us our own money.
Government services (i.e., social security, etc.) are paid for with NARCO dollars (to the tune of a trillion dollars/year).
Not paying your taxes is probably worse than not paying the mafia, as you could call the cops on the mafia. Who are you going to call on the government?
This is precisely the system that crucified Jesus, and why he is coming back...
Face it, folks, you are human collateral or capital (a slave, if you will).
Don't love the farm, because it doesn't love you.

I think we need a tax revolt.. just don't pay Federal taxes.. they already take it out of your paycheck but if they want more or if you run a Small business you can "cook" the books and pay less. Less money for them.. I support Cain's 9-9-9 because now the tax is 30-50 percent of your income.. they would get less and have to close the doors on many "Social" and FEAR based programs. Get rid of the useless programs and stop the top heavy gov't, give all the power of decisions back to the States then you can "Vote" with your feet if you don't like the State policies..move. Then baring complete collapse.. which in some ways more painful but also more rewarding..we go back to Regional support and alot less people. No Federal Government I feel would be good.. a Constitutional Republic with very small government over all and run on a part time basis by VOLUNTEERS. That would do it..people will be too busy to "gather" or "occupy" they would be digging in the dirt.. I know the real answer but the OWS are not willing to work so they gather, thinking somehow they will influence POTUS or Wall Street...nah they are laughing at them.. the real winner in this? Soros.. the NWO they laugh to all the way to the BANK.. which they own. AND they want COLLAPSE.. Soros has a GOD complex. IF we could get out of WORLD affairs and let them sort out their own problems we could also save Billions every year of OUR money. I could back Ron Paul on this issue but in other ways he is a disaster. Bring home our troops..we need our heroes at home! Where in the World today is safe? The Governments of every Country use Fear to control their populations.
And Lastly..
Great Carlin clip.. GOD rest his soul.. he had it right.

I am enjoying my freedom from the IRS and income taxes, as are others who know the law. As for your idiotic post about 'lawyers' they are not. Please, find me one (just one) "Lawyer" and not an "attorney at law". Which are not the same thing.


Attacking the messenger is a feeble tactic. I have quoted the law, you have done nothing but make stupid comments and post little pictures.

Either refute the facts or don't. The law is there, many are doing it, nobody is in prison for it, nobody has even been taken to court over it.

So, again, suck it.

You ALWAYS have a choice.

Just dont pay your taxes.
What are they going to do?
Take you to jail?
Along with the other millions of people who dont pay their taxes?

They need you just as much as they need us.
Dont give in to you having no freedom.
There is always a way if it maybe ONE person to show the way or "global consciousness" to awaken the masses together. We will get though this together.

The correct term is not slave, it is "peon". Again, it is you volunteering (via contract) to pay the debt someone else has charged.

It is the anti-thesis of what Christ did in paying for our sins. That is the truth of the Federal Reserve DEBT system.

Totally anti-Christ.

Well, I flat out don't believe you.

[link to www.irs.gov]

Last Edited by Least Servant on 10/17/2011 02:18 PM

Thread: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul

[link to savingtosuitorsclub.net]

One is a GLP thread

The other is a very good forum that I'm sure will help you in your search

seeker2=rken for my friends

You need a legal dictionary. A "taxpayer" is required to file. A taxpayer has not demanded redemption from the Federal Reserve system.

They check your bank records BEFORE they ever file any charges against you. Why?

BECAUSE if you have demanded your redemption, it will be "at any Federal Reserve Bank" just like their law spells out.

They can check all my bank accounts (which I have) and they will see I am not endorsing their product and therefore, I do not owe them a use fee.

I really do not care if you believe me or not.

Your choice, but you are a liar if you say that income tax is not 100% voluntary, because it is.

Don't forghet the Dap[earttmentof making your kids get p[oiononous vaccines contaminated with sqalene et al and mercury laced high profit injections that contain mercury. Then of course the whores of Congress have many friends who will be glad to treat your damamged child with Selective seratonin Re-uptake -inhibitors. Eli Lilly and their Paxil for example, where they paid of the lead attorney suing their asses to settle the case and got caught. Now they have Cymbalta which , although a selectibe seratonin re-uptake inhibtor also....it now good for pain. What a scam to entrap so many suffering people Google this and Dr. Breggin or Breggen. Education in the hsrhness and whoredomw of real life. Brain-chemical-fucking-with-drugs FREE!!!! if you are poor. LIne up to the right for your false reality blood/pus dripping brainfuck.

Exactly. Truth in your words. I have made many points to people stating that if you think really deep about it, we are born owing money to a world we were born into.

Oh you are just one of those freeman nuts playing with words.

I've got better things to do than argue with wet paper inventing internet fantasies, people SHOULD try this shit for themselves if they are that bored with life or have some kind of comformity issue, less competition for the rest of us in the real world.

Last Edited by Least Servant on 10/17/2011 02:26 PM

Nice to see you around 708.