One sentence that will prove you are not free.

In short if you are free people, then chose the path that will set you free. They are not your masters, but your servants.

Who here would continue to pay, if you knew your money was funding groups like acorn? Who here thinks the Government would be acting outside the constitution, if taxes were voluntary?

mommy and daddy said I was free.

would free people pay for
operation gun runner?
would they pay for the department of transportation?
would they pay for the department of energy?
would they pay for the bombing of Libya?
Would they pay for cash for clunkers?
would they pay for QE1
QE2?
Would they pay with their labor while they watched their government destroy their purchasing power?

The only difference between Al Capone and his thug regime and our current thug enforced democracy is the current administration has way bigger guns. Same thuggish bs going on.

A true vote, would be to vote with your labor, and your pocket book. That would be a democracy, that would be a serious vote! Not lining puppets up in front of the people, and laughing telling people, "well if you don't like it, you can vote them out in 4 more years". How many people have lived their entire lifetimes waiting 4 more years, or voting for the least of the worst.

If you claim to be free, you should be allowed to vote with your wallet. Then they would truly be your public servants, working for you.

Corporations vote with their wallets, that's why they have a greater say in our country than what you or I do. Because they decide if they're going to pay off a candidate, or pay for is run for office. Look at GE, they helped Obama get elected, and bought themselves a year of paying no federal income tax.

Why is it illegal for you to vote with your wallet also?

What's the solution?
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who here thinks that millions upon millions of people would have lost their homes if taxes were voluntary. Think about that. The banks created the situation in order to consolidate wealth and grab land. They made loans that they knew would not be paid back so they could get the interest on the loan whenever the house was created and sold, lend money to the contractor to build the house, and then make money from the government whenever the loan defaulted and take possession of a property they otherwise would not have had.

The government would not allow this to take place if they knew they were going to lose tax revenue from the people that are paying.

The government would have a vested interest in making sure you were prosperous. They wouldn't say export all the jobs.

Why do they not care now. Because either way, they get paid. If you can't keep up with all your taxes and payments, they benefit from your default by stealing all of your possessions and auctioning them off to the highest bidder. What if instead, the person that was underwater simply stopped paying the Government in order to pay his bills instead. Perhaps he wouldn't lose his house, his cars, his entire life. It would then be the Government that would suffer for allowing banks to do predatory lending.

Who in their right mind would have continued to pay the government as they watched the government change the rules for the banks during the fraudclosure debacle. Who would have gladly pay in to watch judges change the rules and make up new legal documents that allowed the banks to continue their theft.

5 stars OP. The worm must turn soon

As long as they have tasty treats with the rainbow sprinkles, I don't see how we can do away with the elite upon which we all make ourselves depend so much.

Through most of human history, the elite have depended upon the common person. Now we are so yoked together and technology provides such a boon to the reduction of labor, that the common person actually depends heavily on the elite, who need the average person less and less.

So, in other words, the common person is fucked, best to stop your associations with "them" as soon as possible and crawl your own way out of whatever misery you see in life.

Best advice.

The solution is simple in order to return the government to the people, make taxes voluntary. Give the people a real vote. Let them vote with their wallets. You think we would have a 25% job approval for congress if taxes were voluntary. It never would have been allowed to get this bad.

Give us the right to fire our masters, and make them their servants.

People are afraid that Occupy Wall Street is a communist movement. Who would pay for communists. Communists have to extract money from the people by force in order to survive. They take from the people.

You think people would pay for fascism if taxes were voluntary?

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The only reason you have to pay taxes is because you have contracted to do so. No contract no taxes.

The constitution gives you the right to contract. Contract law super-cedes the constitution when there is a contract in force.

Stop using Federal reserve notes and operating as a reserve agent and you will not have to pay taxes legally. Redeem your federal reserve notes for lawful money on demand. Pay no taxes. No one will shoot you or put you in jail. But if you fail to comply with the terms of the contract, they will and you must pay taxes. SK

This bullshit about the Rothschilds is like a cointel virus. The Federal Reserve is ran by the same occult tyrant that run DC, the Freemasons. Rothschilds are Freemason.

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Would the TSA exist if taxes were voluntary?

Does anyone actually think they are protecting us?

No, they would be out of business the next day.

Is this thread turning into one of those "you don't have to follow the law so long as you make your life so inconvenient that no one is actually going to bother coming after you because you spend 90% of your time trying to figure out how to pay for stuff" kind of threads?

Communists, and socialist Occupy Wall Street would not be a threat if we didn't already set up a police state for them to take control over.

If taxes we're voluntary, there would be no police state system already in place.

"you need a license/ permission for that..."

Redeem FRN's for lawful money, end the fed and pay no taxes legally. sk

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I pay taxes freely because I'm an adult.

What goes around comes around.
By that I mean that, when the rich have taken all the $ from the poor and middle class, there will be nothing for those people to be divided over. So in fact, the rich and powerful are creating their own demise by being greedy.

The sooner you lose what you now feel is important (money), the sooner we can all get back to being human and living as free human beings.

Whats the solution? Firstly open your eyes and see that it is all BS. Then I guess you have to decide if you really want to be free or not. If you dont, go back to sleep.

We need to return to the law/the Constitution and arrest all those guilty of treason and crimes against humanity.

The People need to regain their power!

All Profits of the Federal Reserve are returned to the General Fund of the US Treasury. People who compare the governments finances to that of a family of 4, should really read something about modern monetary policy.

Taxes = Violence

One document to prove you aren't free: Birth Certificate.

This lot thinks that silver and gold are money... so it's a long road to try to travel here.

If you would rather trade your position to someone with no legal existence, such as people born in much of the third world, you are welcome.

You do realize this means you can disappear and there's no legal authority to protect you, right?

Would we really want our current congress to have total control over monetary policy? They can't get fiscal policy right.