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Has Iran ever attacked or occupied another country in recent history? (say past 150 yrs).

 
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Iran is an angel, an angel.
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I'm not implying that, either. I was merely asking who they've invaded. I know who we've invaded. I don't really know a whole lot about Iran aside from what's in the media, and I'm not sure how much of that I trust.

I think my question is a legitimate and valid question. I think it helps paint intent. It helps me feel our actions will be justified, should we attack them.
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dont listen to anyone on glp
they are all just biblical biast religitards, who in order for their bible prophecies to come true need a islamic demon that wants to turn their country into sharia. that said, i think you are right. iran has never invaded any country and has only defended its own, are they an angel? no, but they definitely are not what the media and some religitards try to make you believe.
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I just want some documented proof. I don't care as to what the answer is either way - I just don't want to get involved in another war without at least knowing what they did that was wrong. We went in to Iraq and found NO WMD's. To me, that's an issue.

I don't want to go invade Iran under the pretense of them being bad, with the only "proof" as some harsh language, because I'm sorry, but harsh words are not justification for an invasion.

And I also do not count "proxy" as a war force. If they had divisions of proxies, it'd be one thing, but you're talking a singular basis - its not the same. That's like saying we wage war in other countries because we have delta go over there and operate outside of the constitution and the Geneva convention. Hostilities? Yes. War? No.

I'm not a shill for asking the question. The ones inciting that are shills for not helping me find the answers. I'm not pro Iran. Its a question. Sorry, but I like to be informed.
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dont listen to anyone on glp
they are all just biblical biast religitards, who in order for their bible prophecies to come true need a islamic demon that wants to turn their country into sharia. that said, i think you are right. iran has never invaded any country and has only defended its own, are they an angel? no, but they definitely are not what the media and some religitards try to make you believe.
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Guess that makes you one since all are?

In other news, they occupied some islands belonging to the United Arab Emirates in 1971. Other than that, they've been mostly on the receiving end of aggression since about 1797.
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haha ya u could play with those words a bit, good catch.
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so just some island is that all?
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Iran is highly critical towards the western world. That's it.

It apparently is enough.
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Iran could probably be a world leader if it weren't shackled with a stone age religion. Nice country with attractive people who, unfortunately, are religitards.
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attack: Yes

occupy: Yes

they attack Israel with proxy rockets
through Hezbolah and Hamas.

they occupy (minimal strength) Lebanon,
Gaza, Golan, Israel, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan
and Syria very similar to current
CIA and Mossad Ops.
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go back to 3rd grade
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Iran is highly critical towards the western world. That's it.

It apparently is enough.
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Iran could probably be a world leader if it weren't shackled with a stone age religion. Nice country with attractive people who, unfortunately, are religitards.
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try having a country without a religion in the middle east and cradle of civilization
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Yes, when 241 American Servicemen were killed in the 1983 Beirut truck bomb attacks:

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"On October 3 and December 28, 2001, the families of 241 servicemen who were killed as well as several injured survivors filed civil suits against Islamic Republic of Iran and the Ministry of Information and Security (MOIS) in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. [45] In their separate complaints, the families and survivors sought a judgment that Iran was responsible for the attack and relief in the form of damages (compensatory and punitive) for wrongful death and common-law claims for battery, assault, and intentional infliction of emotional distress resulting from an act of state-sponsored terrorism.[45]

Iran (the defendants) was served with the two complaints (one from Deborah D. Peterson, Personal Representative of the Estate of James C. Knipple, et al., the other from Joseph and Marie Boulos, Personal Representatives of the Estate of Jeffrey Joseph Boulos) on May 6 and July 17, 2002.[45] Iran denied responsibility for the attack[46] but did not file any response to the claims of the families.[45] On December 18, 2002, Judge Royce C. Lamberth entered defaults against defendants in both cases.[45]

On May 30, 2003, Lamberth found Iran legally responsible for providing Hezbollah with financial and logistical support that helped them carry out the attack.[45][47] Lamberth concluded that the court had personal jurisdiction over the defendants under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, that Hezbollah was formed under the auspices of the Iranian government and was completely reliant on Iran in 1983, and that Hezbollah carried out the attack in conjunction with MOIS agents.[45]

On September 7, 2007, Lamberth awarded $2,656,944,877 to the plaintiffs. The judgment was divided up among the victims; the largest award was $12 million to Larry Gerlach, who became a quadriplegic as a result of a broken neck he suffered in the attack.[48]

The attorney for the families of the victims uncovered some new information, including a National Security Agency (NSA) intercept of a message sent from Iranian intelligence headquarters in Tehran to Hojjat ol-eslam Ali-Akbar Mohtashemi, the Iranian ambassador in Damascus. As it was paraphrased by presiding U.S. District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth, "The message directed the Iranian ambassador to contact Hussein Musawi, the leader of the terrorist group Islamic Amal, and to instruct him ... 'to take a spectacular action against the United States Marines.'"[49] Musawi's Islamic Amal was a breakaway faction of the Amal Movement and an autonomous part of embryonic Hezbollah.[50]

Some in the U.S. government continue to hold that culpability in the Marine barracks attack is undetermined. In 2001, former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger stated: "But we still do not have the actual knowledge of who did the bombing of the Marine barracks at the Beirut Airport, and we certainly didn't then."[18]
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That being said... Keep American troops off the ground in the Middle East!

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As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
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Did they not hold hostage some Americans after Carter and Brzezinski destabilized their country by getting rid of their Shah who was friendly to America. Sorta like Obama may have done with Egypt. Was Brzezinski involved with Egypt too?
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Yes. Its proxies are occupying Lebanon, Syria and the Gaza strip (at least). They are now trying in Yemen and Saudi Arabia.
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On May 30, 2003, Lamberth found Iran legally responsible for providing Hezbollah with financial and logistical support that helped them carry out the attack.
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This is no different than saying we are responsible for 9/11 (regardless of what really did happen) because the US trained and provided munitions to al qaeda.

Iran denied the action. Another country found them guilty. When Japan attacked us, we KNEW it was Japan. When the Vietnamese attacked the french, there was no confusion as to who it was. Everyone knew Hitler was German.

A country who wants to be at war doesn't generally pussyfoot around it - They just take action. In one reply someone is saying Iran "want WWIII and soon! it is the one and only chance for Shia Islam to rule the world, before Sunni demographic jihad does."

If they want WWIII, they merely need to attack and back it, but they aren't.

Might there be some sick sadistic fucks over there who are fanatical about some twisted religion? Sure. They probably twist it to gain power - because men are corrupted by power, regardless of ethnicity.

However, I bet the average Iranian is like the average human - they just want to have a family and get by in life, enjoying the simple things.

I could be entirely wrong. Its also a possibility. However, nobody has yet posted any proof of an attack by Iran that they stood behind and confirmed they started it.

I just know that Muslims and Christians have been at war since before any of us were around. It still isn't over. Everyone is just so damn scared of getting nuked, that it feels like we're stuck in a stalemate until some idiot trips the wrong wire and then the entire sandbox turns into a pile of glass.

I just figured I'd post the question and hope for some intelligent conversation. Thus far, its been anything but that. Mostly short, insulting posts. I guess I expected... more?
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attack: Yes

occupy: Yes

they attack Israel with proxy rockets
through Hezbolah and Hamas.

they occupy (minimal strength) Lebanon,
Gaza, Golan, Israel, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan
and Syria very similar to current
CIA and Mossad Ops.
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Well you are just retelling of what our propaganda machine is saying. Where is the proof?

We have been told 10 yrs now that within 6 months Iran will have a nuclear bomb. It is always 6 months from now....always. When those 6 months have passed still no bomb.
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I'm tired of listening to both sides of this argument.

Let's just nuke 'em.

yes, let's send in the B52's.
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Invaded and occupied? No.

Engaged in wars and insurgencies by proxy? Yes, extensively, mostly in Lebanon and in Iraq after the Gulf War.
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You should read up more both in history and current events, This is an apocalyptic muslim regime in power now, who believe their "Madhi" is very near but first the world must be in turmoil for him to appear. They want war, as the Mahdi will than save them and bring the world to Islam.
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If they wanted war, they could just shoot some missiles at us, or our allies. Starting a war is easy. Making it look like someone is trying to start a war seems to be a bit harder.

I hear what you're saying. It may be true. However, actions speak louder than words, and thus far, the actions just don't send that message.
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you need to listen to fox news more, or limbaugh, or that guy coulter (he's so funny). then you'll have some learnin.
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However, I bet the average Iranian is like the average human - they just want to have a family and get by in life, enjoying the simple things.

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wrong wrong wrong wrong! Iranians are muzzie scum who should be turned to glass who would kill you before you could even do something. kill all muzzies, glass nuke, fuck ya!
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well...trick question really. Who is Iran? Persia? Actually Iran is younger than 33 years old so... If you look at it that way. Mossadegh was assinated a democratically elected president and then the Shah took power. The Pahlavi dynasty. Then deposed by the Ayatollah Khomeini for new Iran. They had a cold war with Lebanon (they won)
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Persia has always had imperialistic designs.

Nothing new here, move along now.

/Thermopylae.
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You should read up more both in history and current events, This is an apocalyptic muslim regime in power now, who believe their "Madhi" is very near but first the world must be in turmoil for him to appear. They want war, as the Mahdi will than save them and bring the world to Islam.
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If they wanted war, they could just shoot some missiles at us, or our allies. Starting a war is easy. Making it look like someone is trying to start a war seems to be a bit harder.

I hear what you're saying. It may be true. However, actions speak louder than words, and thus far, the actions just don't send that message.
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you need to listen to fox news more, or limbaugh, or that guy coulter (he's so funny). then you'll have some learnin.
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I can only handle so much fox news. I'm getting tired of ALL the news for the most part. I can listen to one or the other, but its all the same "crap". I just want something real.
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Using the past to defend the future in this case is a bit like saying someones entire family has never done "x" so they couldn't have possibly done "y" or even thought about doing "z". In the realm of logic, it's called Generalization.

I don't think that Jefferry Dahmer's parents were serial killers. But, he was.

One should always dig into the past, of course, as it sets the tone. But, lest we not forget that humans are of their own passions which create actions, wars, peace and otherwise.

Is it the past or the wish for the future that put our POTUS in office?

Did you expect [to be] where we are now within the interior of our country? What we lovingly call OWS (sarcastically spoken) is really the precursor to what we have all seen play out on TV over in Egypt, Libya, Greece, Italy, Spain, etc. Having been socialized in W. Europe, I can tell you that we don't have the same need for PC journalism. We don't sugar-coat the reality like the US press does. But, we also report more news and less bias than even the US news. So, as a result of journalism and some PC feelings still lodged within the protestors, it's a novelty - right now.

The past, generalization and 'hope' created our present reality coming out of our past as the stage was set. We didn't HAVE to be where we are today. But, we are. Who do you blame. <--Please note that is a rhetorical question not meant to prime the pump for the Bush Era, Stimulus, 'yeah but', etc.

Just remember - what we did 'back then' does a reality not create 'today'; not with Humans and not in Logic. Paradoxical isn't it.

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As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
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Did they not hold hostage some Americans after Carter and Brzezinski destabilized their country by getting rid of their Shah who was friendly to America. Sorta like Obama may have done with Egypt. Was Brzezinski involved with Egypt too?
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Yes, and afterward, this is all we heard. On every radio station in the nation....



But first, get your facts straight.
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America is like The Big bully that everybody likes. Becuase if we were gone there would be a vacuum and people would be fight for the top spot. Same with russia and china.
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Iran is an angel, an angel.
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I'm not implying that, either. I was merely asking who they've invaded. I know who we've invaded. I don't really know a whole lot about Iran aside from what's in the media, and I'm not sure how much of that I trust.

I think my question is a legitimate and valid question. I think it helps paint intent. It helps me feel our actions will be justified, should we attack them.
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dont listen to anyone on glp
they are all just biblical biast religitards, who in order for their bible prophecies to come true need a islamic demon that wants to turn their country into sharia. that said, i think you are right. iran has never invaded any country and has only defended its own, are they an angel? no, but they definitely are not what the media and some religitards try to make you believe.
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As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
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Did they not hold hostage some Americans after Carter and Brzezinski destabilized their country by getting rid of their Shah who was friendly to America. Sorta like Obama may have done with Egypt. Was Brzezinski involved with Egypt too?
 Quoting: anonimalle


^^THIS^^

and speaking of Brezinski, anyone here read "The Grand Chessboard"? It's all laid out, Syria & Iran are already marked targets, all that's needed is a "plausible" excuse to invade those 2 countries...looks like things are moving right along as planned...
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Yes. Its proxies are occupying Lebanon, Syria and the Gaza strip (at least). They are now trying in Yemen and Saudi Arabia.
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And no other countries do this - right?
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I'm tired of listening to both sides of this argument.

Let's just nuke 'em.

yes, let's send in the B52's.
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Yeah, I reckon having "Love Shack" played over and over will bring em to their senses.

Or an extended version of "Rock Lobster" combined with a CIA operation where LSD is put in their water supplies.
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You should read up more both in history and current events, This is an apocalyptic muslim regime in power now, who believe their "Madhi" is very near but first the world must be in turmoil for him to appear. They want war, as the Mahdi will than save them and bring the world to Islam.
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+1 That
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You should read up more both in history and current events, This is an apocalyptic muslim regime in power now, who believe their "Madhi" is very near but first the world must be in turmoil for him to appear. They want war, as the Mahdi will than save them and bring the world to Islam.
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+1 That
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like i said - a country who wants war does not attack others by means of proxy. they boldly claim the action and embrace the war that results from it. your idea is not logical.

japan didn't attack our ships and then claim that it was china. it doesn't work like that.

have you ever once questioned the crap we're being fed? how does this even compute for you?

iran isn't al qaeda. while smaller than us, they do not need to employ hit and run tactics under the guise of using a proxy. heck, even if they did, you don't think we'd openly report on it and then bomb the living snot out of them immediately?

instead, they get demonized for a few decades, to soften the public up to the idea of disarming them, demilitarizing them, and invading them, because they are so bad. i hate iran, and i dont even know why. so i'm asking - what did they do to deserve my hatred?

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Iran doesn't just want to be at 'war' as you keep insist on misunderstanding.

It wants to launch the world into chaos, it wants to draw the infidel powers Russia China Europe and the US into a nuclear shootout. Also to back Israel into a corner by developing nuclear weapons and missiles, issueing unmistakeable threats that it intends to use them - so that Israel has no other rational choice than to strike first.

Meanwhile Iran has prepared a series of mega terror strikes that it can claim as 'justified retaliation' - these probably include nukes funnelled to it by the fake collapse ofthe Soviet union to be used in super EMP attacks against the major powers.

At the end of the day Iran wants the Isralis to have nuked the arab Sunni cities and the major powers to have nuked each other, leaving thema level playing field for the worlds muslims under the Mahdi to win the endtimes global jihad.


Russia and China are simply leading themon as suckers and have no intention of being drawn in to a nuclear shootout - they are using this to collapse the Western world and the M.E.
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You should read up more both in history and current events, This is an apocalyptic muslim regime in power now, who believe their "Madhi" is very near but first the world must be in turmoil for him to appear. They want war, as the Mahdi will than save them and bring the world to Islam.
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Please define 'they'

I know for a fact that the majority of the people in Iran wish to be left alone so that they can profit from their hard work and to raise their families in peace, just like most other people in the world.

You should also be aware that there are more than a few lunatics in this country (USA) that wish to see chaos so that their god can save them... childish nonsense, all of it, that is going to get a lot of INNOCENT people killed.
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Iran doesn't just want to be at 'war' as you keep insist on misunderstanding.

It wants to launch the world into chaos, it wants to draw the infidel powers Russia China Europe and the US into a nuclear shootout. Also to back Israel into a corner by developing nuclear weapons and missiles, issueing unmistakeable threats that it intends to use them - so that Israel has no other rational choice than to strike first.

Meanwhile Iran has prepared a series of mega terror strikes that it can claim as 'justified retaliation' - these probably include nukes funnelled to it by the fake collapse ofthe Soviet union to be used in super EMP attacks against the major powers.

At the end of the day Iran wants the Isralis to have nuked the arab Sunni cities and the major powers to have nuked each other, leaving thema level playing field for the worlds muslims under the Mahdi to win the endtimes global jihad.


Russia and China are simply leading themon as suckers and have no intention of being drawn in to a nuclear shootout - they are using this to collapse the Western world and the M.E.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1034753


That is quite the theory. Nuclear warfare at a global level. If it were truly happening, you don't think we'd have gone in and used our own "proxy" to attack ourselves and in turn turn iran into a sheet of glass? Or Russia, who care less about the politics than we do. Or China, who cares even less?

We went in to Iraq why? They were moving oil away from the dollar - how ironic.

Afghanistan - One of the largest mineral deposits in the world discovered.
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Iran? Is it religious warfare, or are we fighting over resources, yet again? I'm not sure which it is - it just doesn't feel like Iran is the aggressor in this.

Could I be falling for a ploy? Sure. However, I don't think that's the case. Look how badly Cuba was demonized. Are all Cubans horrible people? Not at all... Heck, we have a better relationship with Russia than Cuba. How does that work?!?
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Re: Has Iran ever attacked or occupied another country in recent history? (say past 150 yrs).
As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
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I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Did they not hold hostage some Americans after Carter and Brzezinski destabilized their country by getting rid of their Shah who was friendly to America. Sorta like Obama may have done with Egypt. Was Brzezinski involved with Egypt too?
 Quoting: anonimalle


This^^^^^^
When the U.S. used the TWIN PILLAR STRATEGY, it gave substantial power to Iran and Iraq. THIS WAS CLEARLY A BIG MISTAKE!

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