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Has Iran ever attacked or occupied another country in recent history? (say past 150 yrs).

 
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As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Did they not hold hostage some Americans after Carter and Brzezinski destabilized their country by getting rid of their Shah who was friendly to America. Sorta like Obama may have done with Egypt. Was Brzezinski involved with Egypt too?
 Quoting: anonimalle


This^^^^^^
When the U.S. used the TWIN PILLAR STRATEGY, it gave substantial power to Iran and Iraq. THIS WAS CLEARLY A BIG MISTAKE!
 Quoting: The Wicked One


So we went in there and got rid of their leader, and somehow that qualifies them as the aggressor to us, because they held some US hostages?

That sounds logical to you?

If China came in here and removed Obama, do you think we'd only take a few Chinese Hostages?

Shit, when Japan attacked us, we threw 110,000 Japanese-AMERICANS into internment camps because we thought they were all potential spies! 110,000... That's HUGE. You don't think those were hostages, under armed guard?

If anyone touched our leader, ever, that'd be the last thing they did. It would be a show of power greater than any of us has ever witnessed if for no other reason than to prove a point so it never happens again.

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Re: Has Iran ever attacked or occupied another country in recent history? (say past 150 yrs).
As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Did they not hold hostage some Americans after Carter and Brzezinski destabilized their country by getting rid of their Shah who was friendly to America. Sorta like Obama may have done with Egypt. Was Brzezinski involved with Egypt too?
 Quoting: anonimalle


This^^^^^^
When the U.S. used the TWIN PILLAR STRATEGY, it gave substantial power to Iran and Iraq. THIS WAS CLEARLY A BIG MISTAKE!
 Quoting: The Wicked One


So we went in there and got rid of their leader, and somehow that qualifies them as the aggressor to us, because they held some US hostages?

That sounds logical to you?

If China came in here and removed Obama, do you think we'd only take a few Chinese Hostages?

Shit, when Japan attacked us, we threw 110,000 Japanese-AMERICANS into internment camps because we thought they were all potential spies! 110,000... That's HUGE. You don't think those were hostages, under armed guard?

If anyone touched our leader, ever, that'd be the last thing they did. It would be a show of power greater than any of us has ever witnessed if for no other reason than to prove a point so it never happens again.
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My point is that since the U.S. used and abused the relationships in the M.E. via the Twin Pillar Doctrine, we have essentially angered and antagonized the Iranians as well as Muslims in general, to the point where the clerics and leaders ARE NOW AGRESSIVE against the western culture and anyone who supports Israel.
There is blame enough on all sides of the Iranian-U.S. relations.

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Iran can sit there and act the part of not invading a country. But it is obvious they have ties into many middle eastern countries. Possible ties with terrorist funding and tyrants there. Just because a country doesn't invade, doesn't mean they are innocent.

I thought we got passed 5th grade logic :)
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As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


They have been kept in check by denying them WMDs thus limiting thier ability to engage in effective war. If they are allowed to obtain WMDs they have already cleary stated on many occasions they are not shy about using them.
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Re: Has Iran ever attacked or occupied another country in recent history? (say past 150 yrs).
And yes the middle east has been in conflict for over 10,000 years, pickup a few history books.
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On May 30, 2003, Lamberth found Iran legally responsible for providing Hezbollah with financial and logistical support that helped them carry out the attack.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


This is no different than saying we are responsible for 9/11 (regardless of what really did happen) because the US trained and provided munitions to al qaeda.

Iran denied the action. Another country found them guilty. When Japan attacked us, we KNEW it was Japan. When the Vietnamese attacked the french, there was no confusion as to who it was. Everyone knew Hitler was German.

A country who wants to be at war doesn't generally pussyfoot around it - They just take action. In one reply someone is saying Iran "want WWIII and soon! it is the one and only chance for Shia Islam to rule the world, before Sunni demographic jihad does."

If they want WWIII, they merely need to attack and back it, but they aren't.

Might there be some sick sadistic fucks over there who are fanatical about some twisted religion? Sure. They probably twist it to gain power - because men are corrupted by power, regardless of ethnicity.

However, I bet the average Iranian is like the average human - they just want to have a family and get by in life, enjoying the simple things.

I could be entirely wrong. Its also a possibility. However, nobody has yet posted any proof of an attack by Iran that they stood behind and confirmed they started it.

I just know that Muslims and Christians have been at war since before any of us were around. It still isn't over. Everyone is just so damn scared of getting nuked, that it feels like we're stuck in a stalemate until some idiot trips the wrong wire and then the entire sandbox turns into a pile of glass.

I just figured I'd post the question and hope for some intelligent conversation. Thus far, its been anything but that. Mostly short, insulting posts. I guess I expected... more?
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Here OP, i hope this clip helps you in understanding the situation...some bold truth from a suprising source.....FOX NEWS!
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As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Did they not hold hostage some Americans after Carter and Brzezinski destabilized their country by getting rid of their Shah who was friendly to America. Sorta like Obama may have done with Egypt. Was Brzezinski involved with Egypt too?
 Quoting: anonimalle


This^^^^^^
When the U.S. used the TWIN PILLAR STRATEGY, it gave substantial power to Iran and Iraq. THIS WAS CLEARLY A BIG MISTAKE!
 Quoting: The Wicked One


So we went in there and got rid of their leader, and somehow that qualifies them as the aggressor to us, because they held some US hostages?

That sounds logical to you?

If China came in here and removed Obama, do you think we'd only take a few Chinese Hostages?

Shit, when Japan attacked us, we threw 110,000 Japanese-AMERICANS into internment camps because we thought they were all potential spies! 110,000... That's HUGE. You don't think those were hostages, under armed guard?

If anyone touched our leader, ever, that'd be the last thing they did. It would be a show of power greater than any of us has ever witnessed if for no other reason than to prove a point so it never happens again.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Actually by the last polls 62% of Americans would send them a thank you card! We have a leader every bit as corrupt as Castro!
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And yes the middle east has been in conflict for over 10,000 years, pickup a few history books.
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Duh...and so has everyone else...
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As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


They have been kept in check by denying them WMDs thus limiting thier ability to engage in effective war. If they are allowed to obtain WMDs they have already cleary stated on many occasions they are not shy about using them.
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erm, do you mean like this....


US wars and interventions since WWII...

United States Intervention in Greek Election, 1947-1949
Operation PBFORTUNE, Guatemala, 1952
Operation Ajax, US overthrow of Iranian Government, 1953
Operation PBSUCCESS, Guatemala, 1954
Bay of Pigs Invasion, Cuba, 1961
Operation Powerpack, Dominican Republic, 1965 - 1966
Korean War, 1950 - 1953
United States overthrow of Guatemalan Government, 1907-1933
Operation Blue Bat, Lebanon, 1958
United States Intervention at Panama Canal, 1958
Vietnam War, 1962 - 1973
United States Occupation of Laos, 1962 - 1973
United States Intervention at Panama Canal, 1964
Cambodian Civil War, 1969 - 1970
United States Overthrow of Chilean Government, 1964
Turkish invasion of Cyprus, 1974
Operation Eagle Claw, Iran hostage crisis, 1980
First Gulf of Sidra Incident, Libya, 1981
Contra War, El Salvador, 1981-1990
Occupation of Beirut, Lebanon, 1982-1984
Invasion of Grenada, Grenada, 1983-1984
Operation El Dorado Canyon, Libya, 1986
Iran-Iraq War, 1987 - 1989
Operation Just Cause, Panama 1989 - 1990
Second Gulf of Sidra Incident, Libya, 1989
Persian Gulf War, Iraq, 1991
Operation Desert Shield, 1991
Operation Desert Storm, 1991
Somali Civil War, 1992 - 1994
Operation Provide Relief, 1992
Operation Restore Hope, 1992 - 1994
Yugoslav wars, 1994 - 1999
Bosnian Conflict, 1994 - 1995
Kosovo Conflict, 1997 - 1999
War on Terrorism, 2001 - present
Operation Enduring Freedom - Afghanistan 2001 - present
Operation Enduring Freedom - Philippines 2002 - present
Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa 2002 - present
Operation Iraqi Freedom, 2003 - present
Waziristan War, 2004 - present
War in Somalia, 2006 - present
Operation Iraqi Freedom - Trans Sahara 2007 - present
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As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Did they not hold hostage some Americans after Carter and Brzezinski destabilized their country by getting rid of their Shah who was friendly to America. Sorta like Obama may have done with Egypt. Was Brzezinski involved with Egypt too?
 Quoting: anonimalle


This^^^^^^
When the U.S. used the TWIN PILLAR STRATEGY, it gave substantial power to Iran and Iraq. THIS WAS CLEARLY A BIG MISTAKE!
 Quoting: The Wicked One


So we went in there and got rid of their leader, and somehow that qualifies them as the aggressor to us, because they held some US hostages?

That sounds logical to you?

If China came in here and removed Obama, do you think we'd only take a few Chinese Hostages?

Shit, when Japan attacked us, we threw 110,000 Japanese-AMERICANS into internment camps because we thought they were all potential spies! 110,000... That's HUGE. You don't think those were hostages, under armed guard?

If anyone touched our leader, ever, that'd be the last thing they did. It would be a show of power greater than any of us has ever witnessed if for no other reason than to prove a point so it never happens again.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


You speak the truth OP, you seem unaffected by the jingoistic, false propaganda, a real truth seeker! bravo!

5 stars, a pin and karma points!


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Iran can sit there and act the part of not invading a country. But it is obvious they have ties into many middle eastern countries. Possible ties with terrorist funding and tyrants there. Just because a country doesn't invade, doesn't mean they are innocent.

I thought we got passed 5th grade logic :)
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They have just had a country (Iraq) destroyed to their west, based on a pack of lies, they are having a country destroyed to their east (Afghanistan) based on a pack of lies, they are surrounded by people who want them destroyed, what would you do? sit back and relax?
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Not in KNOWN history. they are resisting the beast. give them support for it.
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Iran can sit there and act the part of not invading a country. But it is obvious they have ties into many middle eastern countries. Possible ties with terrorist funding and tyrants there. Just because a country doesn't invade, doesn't mean they are innocent.

I thought we got passed 5th grade logic :)
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well, you haven't even come close to passing 5th grade logic. the whole of the middle east is being taken over and destroyed by the bolsheviks. they have a right to gather together and resist the new world order.

They are not the terrorists. They are building solidarity against that which is coming against. the New world order crowd including the government of the corportate degenerate United States, are the terrorists. Any normal 5th grader can clearly discern the right to self defense against the enemy.
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Iran can sit there and act the part of not invading a country. But it is obvious they have ties into many middle eastern countries. Possible ties with terrorist funding and tyrants there. Just because a country doesn't invade, doesn't mean they are innocent.

I thought we got passed 5th grade logic :)
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Yes, you moved right past logic and skipped spelling, too.

As Iran is the obvious protagonist in many terror plots against Israel, Saudi Arabia, and even the USA, I can't help but wonder about the suicidal tendencies of this small Persian country. Israel could turn Iran into a pile of glass. The USA could. What exactly does Iran have to gain by pissing off us, Israel, or Saudi Arabia?

So, I ask - which country(s) has Iran attacked or occupied in the past 150 years. If they are terrorists, and they are out there killing innocent people, guilty of genocide, etc, then by all means we NEED to step in. However, I'm coming up empty handed.

Even this yahoo search pulled this up:
[url] [link to answers.yahoo.com]

I'm open-minded about this, so if you have some evidence on the other side, please post it. I'd like to see it all. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Iran to attack anyone, given they'd be obliterated.
 Quoting: ifSHTF


They have been kept in check by denying them WMDs thus limiting thier ability to engage in effective war. If they are allowed to obtain WMDs they have already cleary stated on many occasions they are not shy about using them.
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They were NOT denied WMD's. Do you seriously think that with the wealth of those oil-rich nations, they could not have obtained a few dozen from USSR when it broke apart? You're telling me that with billions in cash, that someone, somewhere didn't broker a back room deal for some? Seriously!?!

All the missing nukes, and you're telling me you think they have NONE? I'd be willing to bet they've had them for years.

I'm sorry, but the logical choice for my non-nuclear armed nation living in a conflict zone when a few nukes go up on auction is to take a few home. Not entirely to use them, but to play that card as a last ditch effort to save my people.

For pennies on the dollar, it allows them to jump a nuclear program ahead decades, and allows them to skip hundreds of millions in development costs. I'm betting all those countries have them.

They also aren't complete idiots - they aren't just going to launch a WMD off at someone and not expect recourse. Like I said - its a stalemate.

Its naive to think that those countries have billions of dollars, yet they can't afford a few nukes for 5-20 million.

The simple truth is - WMD's scare the hell out of EVERYONE. Nobody really wants EVERYONE to die. You might have a suicide bomber who wants to take out a few enemy citizens and cause great terror, but if that bomber knew his actions would also kill his wife, kids, mother, father, sisters, etc then he'd be singing another tune. Then it becomes personal, and not many are really ready for that.

Don't get me wrong - there's some twisted ppl out there who truly DONT care. Those are the ones I fear. But by and large, humans care about humanity. A muslim family in Africa cares about family just as a tribesmen in africa, just as my family does, just as a jewish family in the bronx.
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Iran could probably be a world leader if it weren't shackled with a stone age religion. Nice country with attractive people who, unfortunately, are religitards.
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if you were to read up on history you would know that science and religion work very well together. in fact the middle east was once a great centre of learning with the the first universities and great libraries. many of the greatest thinkers and inventors and scientist were also highly religious and influential people. they had the first analog computers that could calculate time and track the days with an accuracy not seen again until the 1970's. they had robotics, and lots of waterworks, advanced mathematics and medicine. in the library at Alexandrea they are said to have had a copy of every book ever written up the that time.

being educated and religious in nature makes people less aggressive towards others, as both these things teach you to accept others for their differences. because it is with exposure to these differences that we can learn and grow and to become more in ourselves.

unfortunatly being non aggressive left them vulnerable to attack by those whose only goal in life is to obtain power. which happened, the libraries were burned, the people oppressed and they have been under the thumb of the mighty but dumb ever since.

when you make reference to a stone age religion i have to assume you mean christianity, for it was the catholic church that went around "spreading religion" and suppressing everything else, killing when necessary, and sometimes when it is not. even now they do what they can to subvert progress. it was less then 15 years ago that the church finally admitted that Galilao was right and the world was round and travelled around the sun, and apologized for arresting him. just think for years after having actual photos they still could not admit that they were not the centre of the universe. but i digress.

it is not religion, science, physics nor theology that has created the state that we are in, it is greed and an unbridled thurst for power that is bringing society to its knees.
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Iran can sit there and act the part of not invading a country. But it is obvious they have ties into many middle eastern countries. Possible ties with terrorist funding and tyrants there. Just because a country doesn't invade, doesn't mean they are innocent.

I thought we got passed 5th grade logic :)
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of course Iran has tries to many other middle eastern countries. is it not the right of any country to form diplomatic, environmental, economics and social ties with its friends and nabours. however just because they are friendly with some dubious people does not give use the right to attack or them.
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Yes, when 241 American Servicemen were killed in the 1983 Beirut truck bomb attacks:

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"On October 3 and December 28, 2001, the families of 241 servicemen who were killed as well as several injured survivors filed civil suits against Islamic Republic of Iran and the Ministry of Information and Security (MOIS) in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. [45] In their separate complaints, the families and survivors sought a judgment that Iran was responsible for the attack and relief in the form of damages (compensatory and punitive) for wrongful death and common-law claims for battery, assault, and intentional infliction of emotional distress resulting from an act of state-sponsored terrorism.[45]

Iran (the defendants) was served with the two complaints (one from Deborah D. Peterson, Personal Representative of the Estate of James C. Knipple, et al., the other from Joseph and Marie Boulos, Personal Representatives of the Estate of Jeffrey Joseph Boulos) on May 6 and July 17, 2002.[45] Iran denied responsibility for the attack[46] but did not file any response to the claims of the families.[45] On December 18, 2002, Judge Royce C. Lamberth entered defaults against defendants in both cases.[45]

On May 30, 2003, Lamberth found Iran legally responsible for providing Hezbollah with financial and logistical support that helped them carry out the attack.[45][47] Lamberth concluded that the court had personal jurisdiction over the defendants under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act, that Hezbollah was formed under the auspices of the Iranian government and was completely reliant on Iran in 1983, and that Hezbollah carried out the attack in conjunction with MOIS agents.[45]

On September 7, 2007, Lamberth awarded $2,656,944,877 to the plaintiffs. The judgment was divided up among the victims; the largest award was $12 million to Larry Gerlach, who became a quadriplegic as a result of a broken neck he suffered in the attack.[48]

The attorney for the families of the victims uncovered some new information, including a National Security Agency (NSA) intercept of a message sent from Iranian intelligence headquarters in Tehran to Hojjat ol-eslam Ali-Akbar Mohtashemi, the Iranian ambassador in Damascus. As it was paraphrased by presiding U.S. District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth, "The message directed the Iranian ambassador to contact Hussein Musawi, the leader of the terrorist group Islamic Amal, and to instruct him ... 'to take a spectacular action against the United States Marines.'"[49] Musawi's Islamic Amal was a breakaway faction of the Amal Movement and an autonomous part of embryonic Hezbollah.[50]

Some in the U.S. government continue to hold that culpability in the Marine barracks attack is undetermined. In 2001, former Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger stated: "But we still do not have the actual knowledge of who did the bombing of the Marine barracks at the Beirut Airport, and we certainly didn't then."[18]
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That being said... Keep American troops off the ground in the Middle East!
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How would this be any different if Iran sued the US for giving Saddam chemical weapons,just wondering?
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Re: Has Iran ever attacked or occupied another country in recent history? (say past 150 yrs).
attack: Yes

occupy: Yes

they attack Israel with proxy rockets
through Hezbolah and Hamas.

they occupy (minimal strength) Lebanon,
Gaza, Golan, Israel, Iraq, Egypt, Jordan
and Syria very similar to current
CIA and Mossad Ops.
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If you want to get into "proxy" militarism, there's nobody quite as good at it as the USA (see Latin America). And speaking of Israel, it is often little more than the US's proxy in the region.

Re: the original message. Does the questioner want to know whether Iran has ever invaded or attacked anyone in an official capacity, ie openly and not through a "proxy"? This seems to be the only question worth asking since speculation about Iran being "the obvious protagonist" in terror plots or supplying support to other organisations is simply that: speculation.

Speculation aside, Iran has never attacked or invaded anyone, and they have nothing to gain from doing so, even if they think they do.
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I had to bring this post back to life to interject some uncomfortable truths into this somewhat old discussion.

In 1953 the U.S. went into Iran and overthrew Iran's democratically elected leader. This is the beginning of the Demonetization of Iran and it's the motivating force between Iran and the U.S. to this day.

The American people, as usual, are completely ignorant of the reality of this history. This is such a danger to our country and our people. This is why, when we're attacked from the middle east, we have no context as to why we're being attacked. Complete ignorance exists as to what is motivating these attacks. This is also why the American people then begin to apply trite notions of motivations, such as "they hate us because we're free, or that we're Christian".

They don't hate us. They don't hate our religion. They don't endorse terrorism because of their faith.

They don't support our policies because we violate their sovereignty, land and faith. They do not like or endorse our western culture anymore than we endorse or like theirs.

Every act that Iran has committed since 1953, has been a result or motivation from U.S. brutal occupation of Iran for many years.

Here's a good, detailed video on Iran/U.S. relations. Anyone who wants to get the real story, without ignorance or propaganda, watch the incredibly well made video below;

fatlibertarian
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And Ron Paul also brought this up to own Rick Santorum in the debates.



I'm putting this here for others who search for this on Google. This thread shows up in the results. There's a lot of propaganda out there on this issue. It's of the utmost importance that we understand just who started this "conflict" and why, in order that we might SOLVE THE CONFLICT.
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for those who bring up proxy wars and involvement,lets not be Hippocrates. we are are behind damn near every way since ww2 either directly or proxy,and yes we are aiding the rebels in syria then condemning Iran for giving aid to their long time ally.and if you want to use proxy wars then we have already been to war with iran by aiding and helping to bring power to Saddam Hussein. and as far as bringing up apocalyptic madness,look at our number one ally which does nothing for us except spy on u.s. citizens. they are the one's preaching about promised land ,chosen people and destiny. have any of you ever heard irans leader say that, I never have.you hear it on fox.consider the source.
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I don't know who started it but Iran was at war with Iraq in the late 1980's. But I still think the USA should stay the hell out of other countries affairs unless they are a DIRECT threat to us.
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yep and Iraq started it. Iran was on self defense.
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for those who bring up proxy wars and involvement,lets not be Hippocrates. we are are behind damn near every way since ww2 either directly or proxy,and yes we are aiding the rebels in syria then condemning Iran for giving aid to their long time ally.and if you want to use proxy wars then we have already been to war with iran by aiding and helping to bring power to Saddam Hussein. and as far as bringing up apocalyptic madness,look at our number one ally which does nothing for us except spy on u.s. citizens. they are the one's preaching about promised land ,chosen people and destiny. have any of you ever heard irans leader say that, I never have.you hear it on fox.consider the source.
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Bingo, the Us is biggest terrorists in this world.
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so from reading this i can conclude -

iran has SOME religious fanatics that think people of other religions should be disposed of

you would NEVER find anyone like that in america (and if you did they would NEVER find themselves in a position of influence)

they fund countries that are attacking other countries making them at war by proxy

you would NEVER see that happen in america

They have been known to detain people not fully in the guidelines of human rights

america CERTAINLY WOULDNT DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT

They may or may not have some weapons

AMERICA IS ONLY ARMED WITH LOVE AND CHRISTIAN GOODWILL
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Iran is no threat to us or Israel.Their sin is existing where they do.Read "The Grand Chessboard"peaceAnd how can you say that Iran is the obvious protagonist in terror plots against us?Because O'Reilly says so?
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You should read up more both in history and current events, This is an apocalyptic muslim regime in power now, who believe their "Madhi" is very near but first the world must be in turmoil for him to appear. They want war, as the Mahdi will than save them and bring the world to Islam.
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You should read up more both in history and current events, This is an apocalyptic muslim regime in power now, who believe their "Madhi" is very near but first the world must be in turmoil for him to appear. They want war, as the Mahdi will than save them and bring the world to Islam.
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Baloney!
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Its all to do with the petro dollar just research it you will be shocked at
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Its all about the oil and the petro dollar its so bloody obvious but people just don't get it

another do
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Back in the 50's, in Iran, a government came into force and nationalised the oil industry to help support the Iranian people. An Ango-Iranian oil company was closed down which affected a large amount of revenue/profit bound for the United Kingdom. Obviously, this caused a major problem, the West as a whole overthrew the government and installed a dictator into power... This man was responsible for the Iranian genocide. 1979: the Iranian revolution occurred. This time the U.S. and U.K. haven't been sucessful in retaining power in that country. Now.. 1981: Iran/Iraq War broke out. Iraq were the aggressors. Saddam was trained by the CIA, the US and UK sold him weapons to attack Iran.. Saddam used chemical weapons on the Iranian civilians. Fast forward a few years, George Bush Sr. pleaded publicly with Iran to help free hostages, Iran delivered on the promise. When George Bush Sr. was supposed to return the favour, which would have declared peace between the two countries Bush refused. This was the end of any communication between the west and Iran, so now the western media portrays Iran as a secretive state. I can't find any information on countries that Iran has attacked. I believe the number to be zero, as far as I am concerned.

I'm sorry If my information is a bit vague but I can't remember all the people who were involved, it's a long historical topic. Your blessd to have an open mind, research the points I made.

Keep it real. Peace!
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is everyone on here from america?

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