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YET ANOTHER rogue satellite to crash to Earth.....wtf

 
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ROSAT Re-entry Tracking Page:
[link to sites.google.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


They are missing mine - I'll send them a link
[link to www.theweatherspace.com]
 Quoting: KMartin


haha, well done Martinhf

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ROSAT Re-entry Tracking Page:
[link to sites.google.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


They are missing mine - I'll send them a link
[link to www.theweatherspace.com]
 Quoting: KMartin


It is a satellite, not a missile, right?
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I'll have better stuff when it nears, the final 12 hours. It'll be a live studio broadcast with green screen, audio, chat, etc ...
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ROSAT Re-entry Tracking Page:
[link to sites.google.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


They are missing mine - I'll send them a link
[link to www.theweatherspace.com]
 Quoting: KMartin


It is a satellite, not a missile, right?
 Quoting: SickScent


Oh snap! LOL
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ROSAT Re-entry Tracking Page:
[link to sites.google.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


They are missing mine - I'll send them a link
[link to www.theweatherspace.com]
 Quoting: KMartin


It is a satellite, not a missile, right?
 Quoting: SickScent


Oh snap! LOL
 Quoting: BRIEF


chuckle

Sry Martin...had to.
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It'll be a missile when it arcs downward.
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It'll be a missile when it arcs downward.
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good point!
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Don't want to sound mean but this time I want the satellite to hit land somewhere. We need some good doom none of this water stuff where no one can videotape it, lol.
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hf SS.
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Lol, just asked Jeeves where it'll crash. Guess what came up?

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kinda sounds like psy-ops to prepare the public for massive asteroid/meteor fallout

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

doom on???????

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 Quoting: cremefraiche


same thing recently with:

Nuclear shutdown's
mass animal die off's
those record tornados
the endless flooding/fires
the quakes/volcano activity
the aircraft decompressions
now the satellites/ISS falling down

It's like each topic gets 15mins of fame, then just stop and no one notices the drop in coverage. yea, wtf?
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10/19/2011 02:25 PM
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"Klinkrad said the major factor affecting a satellite's fall from orbit is solar activity. Energy unleashed from the sun causes Earth's atmosphere to heat up and expand, generating more drag for satellites in low orbits."

[link to www.spaceflightnow.com]

I have a feeling satellites diving back to Earth will be common news from now on ...
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How many does that make over the last year?
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If it were the next one to decay, it would be the 29th satellite this year, not counting spent rocket bodies or bits of debris. For comparison, 54 satellites decayed in the year 2000, not counting rocket bodies or debris.
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Track it here - Show starts as it nears ...
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That gives me an idea. Someone should run a live simulation of ROSAT's position from the NORAD data, but account for atmospheric effects between updates. Orbiter Spaceflight Simulator should give a reasonably good approximation of when re-entry occurs as long as its run in realtime and updated with the TLE sets as they're published.
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Infrastructure is introduced in phases and blocks.

Everything we use has a service life and cycle. Typical industrial equipment lasts 20-30 years, average for a "durable good", so it's not surprising that we are going to start seeing this start to happen to some generations of space-born equipment in a group.

This is roughly the same thing that is going on with our energy infrastructure, we saw so many oil pipelines go in the last two years, because a lot of the pipes were put in at the same time.
 Quoting: Least Servant


Makes plenty of sense, but (and I hate to bring this up) don't forget Marshall Masters' idea that the more older of infrastructure (bridges,pipes) has been 'perturbed'. He has been terribly RIGHT about these "red dust storms."
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Don't want to sound mean but this time I want the satellite to hit land somewhere. We need some good doom none of this water stuff where no one can videotape it, lol.
 Quoting: KMartin


Bring on the doom.

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Thread: >>>>ROSAT (Doomed German space telescope) Is Coming Home <<<<

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10/19/2011 03:27 PM
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Some truth to this expanding atmosphere theory after all it seems.
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The atmospheres expands and contracts in sync with the solar cycle. This has been known for over 50 years.
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10/19/2011 03:39 PM
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Track it here - Show starts as it nears ...
 Quoting: KMartin


That gives me an idea. Someone should run a live simulation of ROSAT's position from the NORAD data, but account for atmospheric effects between updates. Orbiter Spaceflight Simulator should give a reasonably good approximation of when re-entry occurs as long as its run in realtime and updated with the TLE sets as they're published.
 Quoting: Astromut


Thanks Astro.....ya lost me at that.hfhf
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I know what he means. I wonder what it would show ... I have the program.
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solar cycle, come a bit early?
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Re: YET ANOTHER rogue satellite to crash to Earth.....wtf
Infrastructure is introduced in phases and blocks.

Everything we use has a service life and cycle. Typical industrial equipment lasts 20-30 years, average for a "durable good", so it's not surprising that we are going to start seeing this start to happen to some generations of space-born equipment in a group.

This is roughly the same thing that is going on with our energy infrastructure, we saw so many oil pipelines go in the last two years, because a lot of the pipes were put in at the same time.
 Quoting: Least Servant


Not when it comes to satellites:

From Wiki "End of life

When satellites reach the end of their mission, satellite operators have the option of de-orbiting the satellite, leaving the satellite in its current orbit or moving the satellite to a graveyard orbit. Historically, due to budgetary constraints at the beginning of satellite missions, satellites were rarely designed to be de-orbited. One example of this practice is the satellite Vanguard 1. Launched in 1958, Vanguard 1, the 4th manmade satellite put in Geocentric orbit, was still in orbit as of August 2009.[17]

Instead of being de-orbited, most satellites are either left in their current orbit or moved to a graveyard orbit.[18] As of 2002, the FCC now requires all geostationary satellites to commit to moving to a graveyard orbit at the end of their operational life prior to launch.[
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Something fishy is going on regarding the sudden de-orbitting of Satellites. Mankind has been launching since 1957 or so, and the United States very first satellite is STILL IN ORBIT, and that was back in 1958.

Soooo........ Me thinks there are little spacemen playing a giant game of shoot 'em up or something.
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Don't want to sound mean but this time I want the satellite to hit land somewhere. We need some good doom none of this water stuff where no one can videotape it, lol.
 Quoting: KMartin


how about Zuccotti Park?
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Something fishy is going on regarding the sudden de-orbitting of Satellites. Mankind has been launching since 1957 or so, and the United States very first satellite is STILL IN ORBIT, and that was back in 1958.

Soooo........ Me thinks there are little spacemen playing a giant game of shoot 'em up or something.
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I know what you mean. I appreciate what Astro says but it just seems strange with everything else at the moment. Doom everywhere, and the rumours of doom.

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Something fishy is going on regarding the sudden de-orbitting of Satellites. Mankind has been launching since 1957 or so, and the United States very first satellite is STILL IN ORBIT, and that was back in 1958.

Soooo........ Me thinks there are little spacemen playing a giant game of shoot 'em up or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


I know what you mean. I appreciate what Astro says but it just seems strange with everything else at the moment. Doom everywhere, and the rumours of doom.

hunter
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2011 has been a good year 4 doom, it's not over yet!
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Re: YET ANOTHER rogue satellite to crash to Earth.....wtf
Something fishy is going on regarding the sudden de-orbitting of Satellites. Mankind has been launching since 1957 or so, and the United States very first satellite is STILL IN ORBIT, and that was back in 1958.

Soooo........ Me thinks there are little spacemen playing a giant game of shoot 'em up or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1306067


Actually, USA's first satellite, Explorer 1, re-entered the atmosphere some 41 years ago. You're probably thinking of Vanguard 1, which was not the first but is still the oldest satellite up there (not functional anymore of course). Its perigee was over 650 kms high, higher than ROSAT ever was, but it doesn't even spend that long at that altitude because its apogee was a whopping +3900 km high, which is why it has remained up there for so long.

Not all orbits decay equally fast. Satellites with sufficiently high perigees and very high apogees like Vanguard can remain in orbit for hundreds of years. ROSAT, on the other hand, orbited at a lower altitude and had a circularized orbit.

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""A redundant satellite is falling back to Earth and experts have no idea where it will come down.
The largest single fragment of ROSAT that could hit into the earth is the telescope’s heat-resistant ...
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 Quoting: Blueacres


I do not like that I see the word:

ROAST

in a capitals in ROSAT.

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