Lloyd Pye's (Star Child Skull) Intervention Theory, UPDATE see link at bottom of OP, NOW a new video! Update page 4. 11/7/11

Breif, just been watching that video with Heston narating. Interesting thing on the end about the Antarctica/Atlantis connection. I remember reading a few years back about an explorer who had found a white pyramis there, with a huge jade capstone. Looked very simmilar in description to the one in the picture. Interesting stuff buddeh!

We were watching the apocalypse channel (History) the other day, and they had divers swimming around pyramids and other obviously man made, er Alien made, ruins on the ocean floor...very cool stuff indeed

some ancient maps placed antartica in between s. america and africa, far north of where it is now...and it has been speculated that antarctica in that region could easily have been the atlantis that everyone is searching for...

Lloyd Pye is one of the people who truly opened my eyes to the fact that pretty much all standard theories are bullshit propaganda. critical thinking is lost in the modern western world. it's good to have access to some people who can at least point in an heretofore unexplained direction.

back from shrink, she says "could it be another chapter in the conspiracies of yours, another "lie"", left me in silence, need an answer for next session next week, suggestions please?

"No". The only lie is that we crawled out of the ocean from single celled organisms and turned into what we are today...


No matter the fact, you are here on this Planet and you're better off trying to get along with the people on it...otherwise you are going to be miserable for the rest of your life.

right but we are viscious little buggers, one on one, they would pop our heads off like a pimple.


but we hunt in packs.. we are pack animals. it didnt take long for the 4 types of hominoids to consider us "bad news"

so we chased them till we felt like stopping.

since they are adapted to this planet, they can exist anywhere.

So here is the question. Do you believe in bigfoot?

because if you do, you have alot of work to do, because what this means is, is that WE are off the flow chart of the natural scheme of life on this planet.

If all "pre-human" bones belong to the bigfeetsies.. then we can logically assume we just "Popped up" out of nowhere 200-250k years ago.

We human beings DO NOT HAVE an answerable place in the scheme of things on this planet.

amen broseph. pye hit the nail on the head with that...

Update...

Lloyd has launched a site devoted to Intervention Theory:

[link to www.lloydpye.com]

Perhaps it was something other than competition that drove us to wipe out the other hominids.

Could just be that something so closely resembling ourselves that shit where it eat and fought over females offended us. Perhaps we murdured all other hominids for cultural reasons.

I have seen written in old books how the people that first came to England found it was still inhabied my 'barbarians'.

Intervention video:



[link to www.lloydpye.com]

There was a good HD video of the starchild story with Pye sitting at desk. I think it was on a Lloyd Pye website. I have not been able to track it down again. Has it been removed? Anyone have a link?

His site has videos and here's an interview:


Thread: Great interview with Lloyd Pye's Starchild skull...

Brief, did you finish the e-book yet? To be honest i'm kinda bummed it's just an e-book, i love my library and wanted this bound and filed...

Yeah I finished it couple days ago...I burned it onto a cd, and you could always print it up, but I agree it's not the same as say, the Star Child Skull that I bought in hardback and is numbered and signed by Lloyd...I love my library too...Actually I have several books of his autographed...he wrote books other than alternative science...


This one I bought for my middle son and had Lloyd autograph it for his birthday:

[link to www.amazon.com]

Last Edited by BRIEF on 10/28/2011 12:09 PM

Update 11/7/2011

Lloyd's Newsletter:







At the very end of my new eBook .....



....is a letter written to me in 1999 from a geneticist who called himself DNA Mystery Man.



(That is not his real nom de plume, which you will see if you read the eBook. Unfortunately, iContact will not send this message with his real non-real name because it has a familiar reference that relates to the word spelled with an s and an e and an x ("DNA Deep Throat", edited by Brief). That word is verboten in mass emails, so you will also see some silly euphemisms for it in the text below. I apologize for this asinine solution, but I have no other way to get this message through such an absurd level of filtering.)



Many who have now read INTERVENTION THEORY ESSENTIALS have been astonished by that letter, as I assumed you would be, and now are asking to know more about that gentleman and the mainstream "secret" he was sharing with me. Let me use this Byte of Pye to make his purpose clearer to those who have read his letter, but also because in it he mentions some fascinating insights about human DNA that also relate importantly to the Starchild Skull research.



Dear Mr. Pye:
I agree with your conclusions [that humans are genetically engineered] and will give you a few hints, if you wish [speaking] as a “DNA Mystery Man.” First, look up the huge discontinuities between humans and the various apes for: (1) Whole mitochondrial DNA; (2) genes for the Rh Factor; (3) and human Y chromosomes, among others.

Regarding #3, I refer you to K.D. Smith’s 1987 study titled “Repeated DNA sequences of the human Y chromosome.” It says “Most human Y chromosome sequences thus far examined do not have homologues [same relative position or structure] on the Y chromosomes of other primates.” Human female X chromosomes do look somewhat apelike, but not the male’s Y.

This means that if humans are a crossbred species, the cross had to be between a female ape-like creature [i.e, “creature of Earth”] and a male being from elsewhere.


There is more to the letter, but these three paragraphs will be the focus for this Byte. The last paragraph is dealt with extensively in the eBook, and has generated much comment among readers because of the story of Zana, an almas type hominoid that lived in a village in Russia for 40 years, and which crossbred with human men to produce several dominately human offspring.



The "candy"-determining chromosomes are X and Y. If you obtain an X from one parent and an X from the other, you are a female. If you have an X from one and a Y from the other, you are a male. So the Y confers "maleness," yet it is by far the smallest of the chromosomes delivered to any offspring.



In the 1987 study Mystery Man referenced in 1999, the term "most" was used when pointing out that human Y sequences do not match with the Y sequences of higher primates (chief of which are chimps, supposedly the closest genetic relative to humans). However, since then it has been well established that in all chromosome comparisons between chimps and humans, their differences average 2% to 3%. Yet the difference between their Y chromosomes is 30%!



Obviously, something very dramatic happened to the human Y, something that can't possibly be explained by standard Darwinian evolution. The only plausible answer is, in fact, genetic engineering, but we all know mainstream science would, at all costs, avoid openly considering that as a possibility.



Now let's consider Zana. Let's assume, as I do, that she was one of four general types of hominoids, the almas type dominant in Russia. Let's further assume, as I do, that her type existed with all the others throughout the Miocene Epoch, from 23 million to 5 million years ago. I cover all this in considerable detail in Intervention Theory Essentials, where I support it with ample evidence.



If those assumptions are correct, then she had to have 48 chromosomes, as do all the "higher" primates other than humans, with 24 coming from each parent. Humans have only 46, which means a mating between Zana and a human was "off" by one chromosome, her 24 to her partner's 23. Such a difference in the basic chromosome count can indeed produce hybrid offspring, and the range between chromosomes can even be more extensive, as with mules.



Horses have 64 chromosomes and donkeys have 62. Together they can produce mules, which have 63. All male mules are born sterile, but very rarely female mules will have estrus cycles and can therefore produce offspring with either donkeys or horses. Thus, mule sterility is not universal or absolute. Sometimes the chromosomal material in horses and donkeys can line up exactly "right" to produce fertile offspring.



I think this is what must have happened in the case of Zana and her human partners. In the thousands of times she might have had "candy" in the 40 years she lived in Tkhina, on eight occasions the two chromosome packages lined up exactly "right," and she produced living hybrid offspring (four of whom reached adulthood and were able to produce human families).



I don't pretend to understand how it happened because until we are able to line up an almas genome with a human genome to compare them, base pair by base pair, nothing about it can be established with any certainty. However, given that almas do exist in Russia, and hominologists over there search for them as researchers search for bigfoot here, sooner or later one will be found and its DNA will be available to any scientists with the nerve to study them.



This is where we are with the Starchild Skull right now. We are trying hard to obtain the means to secure its entire genome so it can be fully compared with a human genome. When we can finally do that, the many differences between them will produce a percentage of difference that will establish its credentials as a full-on alien rather than the hybrid we thought it was for so long.



This is how science is done....how real science is done.... You keep pushing hard out at the cutting edge, thrashing your way through inevitable mistakes and misinterpretations, never being daunted by them, using them to your advantage, to build on and make headway. And finally you reach a point of knowledge that is incontrovertible and complete, after which you rest, and then you seek out another great unknown and start moving toward it.

Not to mention the oldest trees on earth date back to the flood.. kinda makes you think a bit there. Also, dont forget dinosaurs walked with humans, many ancients depicted this on rocks, and its in the Bible, so theres another lie from the main stream science about being 65,000 yrs ago, dont always eat whats on the dish.. But why did they go extinct and we did not? Hmm, maybe the flood killed them all, I mean thats what explains all the fossils everywhere, fossils usually dont form unless there is an immense amount of pressure and mud(the flood..)

Just something to ponder...

oops thats 65 million, sorry about that..

I just happened across your thread, Brief. Very interesting and I completely believe what you presented.

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