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" The nuns taught us there were two ways through life - the way of nature and the way of grace. You have to choose which one you'll follow.

Grace doesn't try to please itself. Accepts being slighted, forgotten, disliked. Accepts insults and injuries.

Nature only wants to please itself. Get others to please it too. Likes to lord it over them. To have its own way. It finds reasons to be unhappy when all the world is shining around it. And love is smiling through all things."



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Last Edited by halman on 10/21/2011 11:12 AM
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I chose grace and my mate nature...no wonder we have an "interesting" relationship. Yin yang woohoo gotta love it!!!
hf
Music produces a kind of pleasure which human nature cannot do without. ~Confucius
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I chose grace and my mate nature...no wonder we have an "interesting" relationship. Yin yang woohoo gotta love it!!!
hf
 Quoting: strangela


Hi strangela!

So glad to hear you have a complementary relationship. Ying/Yang indeed. The terms nature and grace are but another manifestation of duality. This quote was from the beginning of that movie 'Tree of Life' and it resonated with me so much that I made a thread about it, lol.

hf

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goodevil <--- my life chuckle
Thanks for the thread BOWMAN!!!
hf
Music produces a kind of pleasure which human nature cannot do without. ~Confucius
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nicehf
Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

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Matthew 16>18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it..
Peter was crucified..on Vatican Hill

"Thou shalt not kill" does not apply to murder of one's own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai. ~Leo Tolstoy


You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy."
But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have?

..Immanuel ,The Christ (Sermon Of The Mount)


“WHAT YOU DO TO OTHERS YOU DO TO YOURSELF FOR THAT IS THE LAW..AND THE PROFIT"

..)

Preach the Gospel at all times..and when necessary use words..

St.Francis Of Assisi..

Dont look at where the finger is pointing..but at WHO is doing the pointing


wildhoney14@yahoo.com

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Be part of the re evolution of the Spirit..say yes to peace and love..be called child of God

Inherit the Kingdom

...Time of the Angels..


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" The nuns taught us there were two ways through life - the way of nature and the way of grace. You have to choose which one you'll follow.

Grace doesn't try to please itself. Accepts being slighted, forgotten, disliked. Accepts insults and injuries.

Nature only wants to please itself. Get others to please it too. Likes to lord it over them. To have its own way. It finds reasons to be unhappy when all the world is shining around it. And love is smiling through all things."



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 Quoting: BOWMAN


how could a nun imagine the right answer to ask the right question ?
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Nature only wants to please itself. Get others to please it too. Likes to lord it over them. To have its own way. It finds reasons to be unhappy when all the world is shining around it. And love is smiling through all things."
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those nuns have issues alien03
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goodevil <--- my life chuckle
Thanks for the thread BOWMAN!!!
hf
 Quoting: strangela


chuckle

Me?

I done got flung off the teeter totter.

lol


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those nuns have issues alien03
 Quoting: aether


you just prompted me to remember:

oh you just reminded me amm

Re: Genesis -1:1

whatever wrote that line
wanted to impose time
by putting a beginning
making eternity ending
the reason is simple
place power in invisble
then wield power by saying
authority from a non existing
thus impossible to deny
you are the main guy
 Quoting: sether


Thread: Genesis -1:1 (Page 3)

rockon
 Quoting: aether

Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 97)

the reason the first line of genesis is wrong, thus all that follows by default wrong is because the archetype (god) utilized to confirm our and our universes reality contains the wrong information within it

that god archetype utilized is the human emotionally formed and sustained archetype of their belief at that place (time)formed from ancestral awareness just as wrong

put simple, a fantasy is attributed as the cause of reality


jesus knew but if you notice, 80% of what he told is removed AND he told us the place (time) of his physically talking to us was NOT the place (time) for us to become aware of what we are to become aware of

to put that simple, he remote viewed here , this place (time) for our awareness to blossom
 Quoting: aether


Thread: Do you choose the world of Man or the Kingdom of God Here on earth?

and that is why
the closer they are to the archetype the harder it is for them to "see"

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Looking back I see where in my own life I've demonstrated both characteristics as I'm sure most people could do too. These last few years though have been some pretty intense situations where I've learned what Grace really is all about.

hf


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those nuns have issues alien03
 Quoting: aether


you just prompted me to remember:

oh you just reminded me amm

Re: Genesis -1:1

whatever wrote that line
wanted to impose time
by putting a beginning
making eternity ending
the reason is simple
place power in invisble
then wield power by saying
authority from a non existing
thus impossible to deny
you are the main guy
 Quoting: sether


Thread: Genesis -1:1 (Page 3)

rockon
 Quoting: aether

Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 97)

the reason the first line of genesis is wrong, thus all that follows by default wrong is because the archetype (god) utilized to confirm our and our universes reality contains the wrong information within it

that god archetype utilized is the human emotionally formed and sustained archetype of their belief at that place (time)formed from ancestral awareness just as wrong

put simple, a fantasy is attributed as the cause of reality


jesus knew but if you notice, 80% of what he told is removed AND he told us the place (time) of his physically talking to us was NOT the place (time) for us to become aware of what we are to become aware of

to put that simple, he remote viewed here , this place (time) for our awareness to blossom
 Quoting: aether


Thread: Do you choose the world of Man or the Kingdom of God Here on earth?

and that is why
the closer they are to the archetype the harder it is for them to "see"
 Quoting: aether


Yeah, they (the nuns) paint 'Nature' as being 'the bad guy' in that quote. I see what you mean aether. I think a better way to state it would be to let your inner Grace lead your inner Nature. Because like I said, afterall is said and done we are both Nature and Grace, within each one of us.

That's something I've sensed that you do very well aether.


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 Quoting: wildhoney


Looking back I see where in my own life I've demonstrated both characteristics as I'm sure most people could do too. These last few years though have been some pretty intense situations where I've learned what Grace really is all about.

hf


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 Quoting: BOWMAN


Sounds like you have been learning to embrace your shadow. It is something we must all do in order to develop awareness, humility and grace and step by step transcend our body conscious egos. hf
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Forgot the link to short introduction to the Shadow:-
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Forgot the link to short introduction to the Shadow:-
[link to home.earthlink.net]
 Quoting: Pharista 3746104


From the link...


When we can accept these feelings and own them, we are able to love the ego as an innocent child. Then, without punishment or reward- both which fuel the ego, we can be at peace with the knowledge that these thoughts are only such, and we can remember that we are still in truth, Divine love at the core.

hf


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Yin yang woohoo gotta love it!!!
 Quoting: strangela


Yin/Yang indeed. The terms nature and grace are but another manifestation of duality.
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Good quote, OP.
My interpretation of the yin/yang is just that, a balance between the left and the right. What's happened with the two-party political system that exists in America is that the yin and yang has been rotated 90 degrees, making it right versus left, with both right and left feeding into the same system. Now there is a need for a shift back to more balance.
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" The nuns taught us there were two ways through life - the way of nature and the way of grace. You have to choose which one you'll follow.

Grace doesn't try to please itself. Accepts being slighted, forgotten, disliked. Accepts insults and injuries.

Nature only wants to please itself. Get others to please it too. Likes to lord it over them. To have its own way. It finds reasons to be unhappy when all the world is shining around it. And love is smiling through all things."



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 Quoting: BOWMAN

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Yin yang woohoo gotta love it!!!
 Quoting: strangela


Yin/Yang indeed. The terms nature and grace are but another manifestation of duality.
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 Quoting: BOWMAN



Good quote, OP.
My interpretation of the yin/yang is just that, a balance between the left and the right. What's happened with the two-party political system that exists in America is that the yin and yang has been rotated 90 degrees, making it right versus left, with both right and left feeding into the same system. Now there is a need for a shift back to more balance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1084809


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"From my experience it is difficult to find an accurate balance between GRACE and TRUTH. How can we (those who embrace a relationship with Jesus) be full of grace and truth as Jesus was? Grace and truth can appear so contrary, and so, often, people end up being full of only GRACE or only TRUTH. My opinion is that being full of grace only, leads to an amoral culture where everything goes (seem familiar). Whilst being full of truth only, leads to a fundamentalist culture where no-one can think for themselves (also sadly familiar). How can we be full of grace and truth as Jesus was?

This is where I find yin yang to be a helpful example. We need to see grace and truth not as opposing actions but as interconnected qualities that give rise to, and strengthen, each other. The more truth we know, the more grace we show, and so on and so forth. I believe there is less purely black and white in a life of relationship with Jesus than is often believed and I believe there is more that is absolute than the other side believes. In the midst of this yin yang is the complete fullness of Jesus who totally combines all of GRACE and TRUTH to bring glory to God.

In future when I look at a yin yang symbol I am going to be reminded that Jesus is in everything and that I need to seek his TRUTH and his GRACE in order to live a balanced life."


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" The nuns taught us there were two ways through life - the way of nature and the way of grace. You have to choose which one you'll follow.

Grace doesn't try to please itself. Accepts being slighted, forgotten, disliked. Accepts insults and injuries.

Nature only wants to please itself. Get others to please it too. Likes to lord it over them. To have its own way. It finds reasons to be unhappy when all the world is shining around it. And love is smiling through all things."



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 Quoting: BOWMAN

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 Quoting: Sway


hi

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HI my frined
i can show you my (another language translation of reality) view:

isnt grace the ammount of understanding you are willing to give to ANY subject ?

you know this transcription of reality trough limiting (cutted) words in limmited languages, is again and again stopping me to express myself clearly

you know i started painting to ventilate this other half and see if i can read in it
(the missing part are my souls desires)
[link to i290.photobucket.com]

i found it/her, it is a cascade of our deepest realizations (in short ammount of time-life)
all precisely timed in proportion to outer world happenings,
as if all what we experience was taken into account


this grace you talk today is a point in your lifetime
(where you got the balls to got out with it)
and with every "checkpoint of this sort" we "shift"

nice ride buddy, i am glad there exist a brain who can understands me :D LOL
hf
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HI my frined
i can show you my (another language translation of reality) view:

isnt grace the ammount of understanding you are willing to give to ANY subject ?

you know this transcription of reality trough limiting (cutted) words in limmited languages, is again and again stopping me to express myself clearly

you know i started painting to ventilate this other half and see if i can read in it
(the missing part are my souls desires)
[link to i290.photobucket.com]

i found it/her, it is a cascade of our deepest realizations (in short ammount of time-life)
all precisely timed in proportion to outer world happenings,
as if all what we experience was taken into account


this grace you talk today is a point in your lifetime
(where you got the balls to got out with it)
and with every "checkpoint of this sort" we "shift"

nice ride buddy, i am glad there exist a brain who can understands me :D LOL
hf
 Quoting: Funney 379793


Good morning Funney. Language has failed me constantly throughout my life. Been reading a few 'religious' threads lately just to get a feel for how language is such a barrier when those who attempt to expresss a point tend to end up in conflict with one another. And, you know, people tend to look for catch phrases, icons, and 'brand names' that they can relate to their own knowledge and experiences.

Within each one of us though, I believe their is a 'language of the heart' and I think that as those feelings that emenate from the heart get filter through our dualistic brains, that's when the restrictions in communication occur that causes all of the confusion. If there were a way that communication could occur that could bypass the brain 'filter', than we would be home.

Nice graphic there Funney. thumbs

hf


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Within each one of us though, I believe their is a 'language of the heart' and I think that as those feelings that emenate from the heart get filter through our dualistic brains, that's when the restrictions in communication occur that causes all of the confusion. If there were a way that communication could occur that could bypass the brain 'filter', than we would be home.



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 Quoting: BOWMAN


I work on that daily my friend. For we all need,

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HI my frined
i can show you my (another language translation of reality) view:

isnt grace the ammount of understanding you are willing to give to ANY subject ?

you know this transcription of reality trough limiting (cutted) words in limmited languages, is again and again stopping me to express myself clearly

you know i started painting to ventilate this other half and see if i can read in it
(the missing part are my souls desires)
[link to i290.photobucket.com]

i found it/her, it is a cascade of our deepest realizations (in short ammount of time-life)
all precisely timed in proportion to outer world happenings,
as if all what we experience was taken into account


this grace you talk today is a point in your lifetime
(where you got the balls to got out with it)
and with every "checkpoint of this sort" we "shift"

nice ride buddy, i am glad there exist a brain who can understands me :D LOL
hf
 Quoting: Funney 379793


Wow...Love your view there Funney.
And your ability to express it.

hf
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I work on that daily my friend. For we all need,

"Eyes to See and Ears to Hear"

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 Quoting: Cutbait


hi

I like this one... :)

"Beauty without grace is the hook without the bait." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

hf


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