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Anonymous Coward User ID: 852939 United States 10/24/2011 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I chose grace and my mate nature...no wonder we have an "interesting" relationship. Yin yang gotta love it!!! Quoting: strangela Hi strangela! So glad to hear you have a complementary relationship. Ying/Yang indeed. The terms nature and grace are but another manifestation of duality. This quote was from the beginning of that movie 'Tree of Life' and it resonated with me so much that I made a thread about it, lol. ------ |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/24/2011 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " The nuns taught us there were two ways through life - the way of nature and the way of grace. You have to choose which one you'll follow. Quoting: BOWMAN Grace doesn't try to please itself. Accepts being slighted, forgotten, disliked. Accepts insults and injuries. Nature only wants to please itself. Get others to please it too. Likes to lord it over them. To have its own way. It finds reasons to be unhappy when all the world is shining around it. And love is smiling through all things." ------ how could a nun imagine the right answer to ask the right question ? |
aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/24/2011 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nature only wants to please itself. Get others to please it too. Likes to lord it over them. To have its own way. It finds reasons to be unhappy when all the world is shining around it. And love is smiling through all things." Quoting: nun????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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aether User ID: 1412926 United Kingdom 10/24/2011 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you just prompted me to remember: Quoting: aether oh you just reminded me amm Quoting: aether Re: Genesis -1:1 whatever wrote that line Quoting: sether wanted to impose time by putting a beginning making eternity ending the reason is simple place power in invisble then wield power by saying authority from a non existing thus impossible to deny you are the main guy Thread: Genesis -1:1 (Page 3) Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 97) the reason the first line of genesis is wrong, thus all that follows by default wrong is because the archetype (god) utilized to confirm our and our universes reality contains the wrong information within it that god archetype utilized is the human emotionally formed and sustained archetype of their belief at that place (time)formed from ancestral awareness just as wrong put simple, a fantasy is attributed as the cause of reality jesus knew but if you notice, 80% of what he told is removed AND he told us the place (time) of his physically talking to us was NOT the place (time) for us to become aware of what we are to become aware of to put that simple, he remote viewed here , this place (time) for our awareness to blossom Thread: Do you choose the world of Man or the Kingdom of God Here on earth? and that is why the closer they are to the archetype the harder it is for them to "see" Last Edited by aether on 10/24/2011 01:22 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 852939 United States 10/24/2011 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you just prompted me to remember: Quoting: aether oh you just reminded me amm Quoting: aether Re: Genesis -1:1 whatever wrote that line Quoting: sether wanted to impose time by putting a beginning making eternity ending the reason is simple place power in invisble then wield power by saying authority from a non existing thus impossible to deny you are the main guy Thread: Genesis -1:1 (Page 3) Thread: Marko Rodin - Smart Lazer Technology (Page 97) the reason the first line of genesis is wrong, thus all that follows by default wrong is because the archetype (god) utilized to confirm our and our universes reality contains the wrong information within it that god archetype utilized is the human emotionally formed and sustained archetype of their belief at that place (time)formed from ancestral awareness just as wrong put simple, a fantasy is attributed as the cause of reality jesus knew but if you notice, 80% of what he told is removed AND he told us the place (time) of his physically talking to us was NOT the place (time) for us to become aware of what we are to become aware of to put that simple, he remote viewed here , this place (time) for our awareness to blossom Thread: Do you choose the world of Man or the Kingdom of God Here on earth? and that is why the closer they are to the archetype the harder it is for them to "see" Yeah, they (the nuns) paint 'Nature' as being 'the bad guy' in that quote. I see what you mean aether. I think a better way to state it would be to let your inner Grace lead your inner Nature. Because like I said, afterall is said and done we are both Nature and Grace, within each one of us. That's something I've sensed that you do very well aether. ------ |
Pharista User ID: 3746104 10/24/2011 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looking back I see where in my own life I've demonstrated both characteristics as I'm sure most people could do too. These last few years though have been some pretty intense situations where I've learned what Grace really is all about. ------ Sounds like you have been learning to embrace your shadow. It is something we must all do in order to develop awareness, humility and grace and step by step transcend our body conscious egos. |
Pharista User ID: 3746104 10/24/2011 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Forgot the link to short introduction to the Shadow:- [link to home.earthlink.net] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 852939 United States 10/24/2011 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the link... When we can accept these feelings and own them, we are able to love the ego as an innocent child. Then, without punishment or reward- both which fuel the ego, we can be at peace with the knowledge that these thoughts are only such, and we can remember that we are still in truth, Divine love at the core. ------ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1084809 Canada 01/05/2012 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yin/Yang indeed. The terms nature and grace are but another manifestation of duality. ------ Good quote, OP. My interpretation of the yin/yang is just that, a balance between the left and the right. What's happened with the two-party political system that exists in America is that the yin and yang has been rotated 90 degrees, making it right versus left, with both right and left feeding into the same system. Now there is a need for a shift back to more balance. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8255091 United Kingdom 01/05/2012 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " The nuns taught us there were two ways through life - the way of nature and the way of grace. You have to choose which one you'll follow. Quoting: BOWMAN Grace doesn't try to please itself. Accepts being slighted, forgotten, disliked. Accepts insults and injuries. Nature only wants to please itself. Get others to please it too. Likes to lord it over them. To have its own way. It finds reasons to be unhappy when all the world is shining around it. And love is smiling through all things." ------ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403418 United States 01/07/2012 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yin/Yang indeed. The terms nature and grace are but another manifestation of duality. ------ Good quote, OP. My interpretation of the yin/yang is just that, a balance between the left and the right. What's happened with the two-party political system that exists in America is that the yin and yang has been rotated 90 degrees, making it right versus left, with both right and left feeding into the same system. Now there is a need for a shift back to more balance. "From my experience it is difficult to find an accurate balance between GRACE and TRUTH. How can we (those who embrace a relationship with Jesus) be full of grace and truth as Jesus was? Grace and truth can appear so contrary, and so, often, people end up being full of only GRACE or only TRUTH. My opinion is that being full of grace only, leads to an amoral culture where everything goes (seem familiar). Whilst being full of truth only, leads to a fundamentalist culture where no-one can think for themselves (also sadly familiar). How can we be full of grace and truth as Jesus was? This is where I find yin yang to be a helpful example. We need to see grace and truth not as opposing actions but as interconnected qualities that give rise to, and strengthen, each other. The more truth we know, the more grace we show, and so on and so forth. I believe there is less purely black and white in a life of relationship with Jesus than is often believed and I believe there is more that is absolute than the other side believes. In the midst of this yin yang is the complete fullness of Jesus who totally combines all of GRACE and TRUTH to bring glory to God. In future when I look at a yin yang symbol I am going to be reminded that Jesus is in everything and that I need to seek his TRUTH and his GRACE in order to live a balanced life." [link to alutacontinua.wordpress.com] ------ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403418 United States 01/07/2012 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | " The nuns taught us there were two ways through life - the way of nature and the way of grace. You have to choose which one you'll follow. Quoting: BOWMAN Grace doesn't try to please itself. Accepts being slighted, forgotten, disliked. Accepts insults and injuries. Nature only wants to please itself. Get others to please it too. Likes to lord it over them. To have its own way. It finds reasons to be unhappy when all the world is shining around it. And love is smiling through all things." ------ :ynyngcts: ------ |
Funney User ID: 379793 Czechia 01/07/2012 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can show you my (another language translation of reality) view: isnt grace the ammount of understanding you are willing to give to ANY subject ? you know this transcription of reality trough limiting (cutted) words in limmited languages, is again and again stopping me to express myself clearly you know i started painting to ventilate this other half and see if i can read in it (the missing part are my souls desires) [link to i290.photobucket.com] i found it/her, it is a cascade of our deepest realizations (in short ammount of time-life) all precisely timed in proportion to outer world happenings, as if all what we experience was taken into account this grace you talk today is a point in your lifetime (where you got the balls to got out with it) and with every "checkpoint of this sort" we "shift" nice ride buddy, i am glad there exist a brain who can understands me :D LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403418 United States 01/07/2012 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HI my frined Quoting: Funney 379793 i can show you my (another language translation of reality) view: isnt grace the ammount of understanding you are willing to give to ANY subject ? you know this transcription of reality trough limiting (cutted) words in limmited languages, is again and again stopping me to express myself clearly you know i started painting to ventilate this other half and see if i can read in it (the missing part are my souls desires) [link to i290.photobucket.com] i found it/her, it is a cascade of our deepest realizations (in short ammount of time-life) all precisely timed in proportion to outer world happenings, as if all what we experience was taken into account this grace you talk today is a point in your lifetime (where you got the balls to got out with it) and with every "checkpoint of this sort" we "shift" nice ride buddy, i am glad there exist a brain who can understands me :D LOL Good morning Funney. Language has failed me constantly throughout my life. Been reading a few 'religious' threads lately just to get a feel for how language is such a barrier when those who attempt to expresss a point tend to end up in conflict with one another. And, you know, people tend to look for catch phrases, icons, and 'brand names' that they can relate to their own knowledge and experiences. Within each one of us though, I believe their is a 'language of the heart' and I think that as those feelings that emenate from the heart get filter through our dualistic brains, that's when the restrictions in communication occur that causes all of the confusion. If there were a way that communication could occur that could bypass the brain 'filter', than we would be home. Nice graphic there Funney. ------ |
Cutbait User ID: 4546846 United States 01/08/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Within each one of us though, I believe their is a 'language of the heart' and I think that as those feelings that emenate from the heart get filter through our dualistic brains, that's when the restrictions in communication occur that causes all of the confusion. If there were a way that communication could occur that could bypass the brain 'filter', than we would be home. Quoting: BOWMAN ------ I work on that daily my friend. For we all need, "Eyes to See and Ears to Hear" [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6669575 United States 01/08/2012 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HI my frined Quoting: Funney 379793 i can show you my (another language translation of reality) view: isnt grace the ammount of understanding you are willing to give to ANY subject ? you know this transcription of reality trough limiting (cutted) words in limmited languages, is again and again stopping me to express myself clearly you know i started painting to ventilate this other half and see if i can read in it (the missing part are my souls desires) [link to i290.photobucket.com] i found it/her, it is a cascade of our deepest realizations (in short ammount of time-life) all precisely timed in proportion to outer world happenings, as if all what we experience was taken into account this grace you talk today is a point in your lifetime (where you got the balls to got out with it) and with every "checkpoint of this sort" we "shift" nice ride buddy, i am glad there exist a brain who can understands me :D LOL Wow...Love your view there Funney. And your ability to express it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1403418 United States 01/09/2012 05:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work on that daily my friend. For we all need, Quoting: Cutbait "Eyes to See and Ears to Hear" [link to www.youtube.com] I like this one... :) "Beauty without grace is the hook without the bait." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson ------ |