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John Goz (OP) User ID: 1519906 United States 10/21/2011 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Human spirituality had an origin in our history. It began soon after we acquired our language skills, and is related to the linguistic aspects of our sense of self. If we didn't have language, it would have been very easy to go into a total denial of the fact of personal death(1). Nobody has ever experienced their own death. You have to figure it out while you're still alive. How do you know you'll die? Unless you have some fairly intense psychic powers ( and you believe in reincarnation), you won't remember dying, and even then your memories will bear other interpretations. Most people, most of the time, only know that they will die because they've learned it, usually during childhood. [link to www.shaktitechnology.com] We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1905638 Germany 10/21/2011 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just kicked this nasty 24 hour flu in which is was a struggle to move across the room. Every muscle ached. I had a strange dream in which I saw the pillar of fire, the flaming cherubim guarding the garden, the kundalini. This pillar is our vital energy running through us all. Like a single flame it runs right down the middle of us. It is this in which keep us from the garden. Quoting: John Goz It is this holy fire which is growing. Human consciousness expanding. We are the essence of this fire. [link to goz48.wordpress.com] The Guardians of the ancient temples of mysteries use the Flaming Sword. The one who has awakened the Kundalini receives this Flaming Sword. [link to people.tribe.net] |
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John Goz (OP) User ID: 3766238 United States 10/21/2011 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.levity.com] In the Western esoteric practices there is an apparent knowledge gap regarding the role of esoteric practices and their effects on the subtle, and not so subtle, bodies of practitioners. In the East, all practices, whether designated as such or not, are designed to awaken the semi-dormant energy resident in all creation, and ‘living beings’ in particular. This energy is known as “Kundalini”, “The Serpent Fire”, and the “Dragon” depending on tradition. Extreme care has been taken, despite contradictions between systems, to chart the effects of exercises on this latent energy, and how it ‘flows’ through the physical, emotional, and psychic body, at what stages, and in relation to which exercises. Such a detailed analysis is lacking in modern Western estotericism. For modern kabbalists, the most common introduction to ceremonial magic is through the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram and the Middle Pillar Exercise. The purpose of this paper is twofold: to show how this, and related exercise can stimulate the Secret Fire, and to suggest exercises for its regulation by esoteric students who are engaged in a Hermetic path, such as general studies or alchemy, who may have experienced its awakening and are in need of simple and direct exercises for its regulation. We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies. |
John Goz (OP) User ID: 10811712 United States 02/24/2012 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I asked the guru if this was indeed true. He did not answer and just packed up to leave. I then pressed him for the meaning of this energy and he just looked at me with a blank expression as if he did not know. It was if he was saying you need to find out for yourself. True and strange dream. We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10043482 United States 02/24/2012 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Human spirituality had an origin in our history. It began soon after we acquired our language skills, and is related to the linguistic aspects of our sense of self. Quoting: John Goz If we didn't have language, it would have been very easy to go into a total denial of the fact of personal death(1). Nobody has ever experienced their own death. You have to figure it out while you're still alive. How do you know you'll die? Unless you have some fairly intense psychic powers ( and you believe in reincarnation), you won't remember dying, and even then your memories will bear other interpretations. Most people, most of the time, only know that they will die because they've learned it, usually during childhood. [link to www.shaktitechnology.com] this statement is not our human history on this world. the people on this planet have their roots from many other planets. MOST here are prisoners of this world, some 10 billion souls have been reincarnating here for 200,000 years of the lucifer rebellion and other galactic warriors not growing up. Only a very small number of men actually evolved on this world. People do experience the death of their body, and after a few reincarnations sometimes remember they are returning to the astral realm, depending on the rate of the body death and who comes to greet them from the astral. Most don't figure out anything why they are alive, kinda sad, but true |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10043482 United States 02/24/2012 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had a dream just yesterday. In it my kundalini was woken by a guru. It was a strange remarkable experience in which hard to describe. My whole being was encompassed and it took me a few seconds to settle into it. The original surge was fearful. Later I tried to move it through the body realizing the chakras. I moved out of it when my body started to rise and move and i wasn't controlling the actions. It was then i tried to analyze what was the kundalini and what was it's purpose. I came to the conclusion it was a resonance of ancient wave form. it was a return to primordial creation when life first moved upon the waters. Quoting: John Goz I asked the guru if this was indeed true. He did not answer and just packed up to leave. I then pressed him for the meaning of this energy and he just looked at me with a blank expression as if he did not know. It was if he was saying you need to find out for yourself. True and strange dream. he was correct, YOU NEED to Figure it out. do you want to know? it was your higher self, depending on where you are in journey, the higher self varies, merging closer to your physical body. If you are at the level of a spirit being, your monad downloads and enters your heart area with the result energy moving thru your body. If you are a morontial soul, the astral or morontial soul mergers into or closer to the body. You conclusion of it being an ancient wave form is not accurate. It is the real you entering. This is the kundalini, a rather misunderstood old word on this plane. I downloaded my monad in 2002 I think it was. May of that year. You will have greater access to your real knowledge. expect change |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5536007 United States 02/24/2012 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just kicked this nasty 24 hour flu in which is was a struggle to move across the room. Every muscle ached. I had a strange dream in which I saw the pillar of fire, the flaming cherubim guarding the garden, the kundalini. This pillar is our vital energy running through us all. Like a single flame it runs right down the middle of us. It is this in which keep us from the garden. Quoting: John Goz It is this holy fire which is growing. Human consciousness expanding. We are the essence of this fire. [link to washer_method.com] The Guardians of the ancient temples of mysteries use the Flaming Sword. The one who has awakened the Kundalini receives this Flaming Sword. [link to people.tribe.net] You had a fever and were delirious. |
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John Goz (OP) User ID: 10811712 United States 02/24/2012 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a child can't understand it... yacht knot dew it. Quoting: Uncle Mikey Bible basics 101... don't listen to the serpent. Some of did and got burned. Way to go OP, leading people into the 'fire' with disinfo. Seek and ye shall find. You are trapped in a fear based system. Those saved are guided by the holy ghost, so I fear not. We are all No bodies until someone recognizes us as Some bodies. |
Uncle Mikey User ID: 1104456 United States 02/24/2012 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a child can't understand it... yacht knot dew it. Quoting: Uncle Mikey Bible basics 101... don't listen to the serpent. Some of did and got burned. Way to go OP, leading people into the 'fire' with disinfo. Seek and ye shall find. You are trapped in a fear based system. Those saved are guided by the holy ghost, so I fear not. Like I said, been there done that... decades ago. It's ego driven. "You get this cool flaming sword", like some stupid video game. Giving in to the serpent is all about retarding ones natural ability to sense danger in the first place. That's one of the goals of bringing this all out now... so in a way your are correct... you have forgotten right from wrong... and you have become a fearless fool. The elites have been saving this one for long time. Once people lose their instincts and common sense, it's game over. So are you Luciferian? Please clarify this 'Holy Ghost'. Remember folks, your Pineal Gland loves darkness. When in darkness, it releases Melatonin to further your drunken sleep state. Basic common sense should tell you how wrong it is to 'activate' it... but go ahead if you are too scared to trust the Bible. Oh, and please praise the Pope while you are at it, because HE is the one promoting this stuff... Looking good!!! I seeked and I found. Does touching naked men make the fire work better as Crowley suggests? Jesus is simple... not complex. No 'rituals' need to be performed to be saved. |
Newbie Dreamer User ID: 11361738 Lithuania 02/24/2012 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Human spirituality had an origin in our history. It began soon after we acquired our language skills, and is related to the linguistic aspects of our sense of self. Quoting: John Goz If we didn't have language, it would have been very easy to go into a total denial of the fact of personal death(1). Nobody has ever experienced their own death. You have to figure it out while you're still alive. How do you know you'll die? Unless you have some fairly intense psychic powers ( and you believe in reincarnation), you won't remember dying, and even then your memories will bear other interpretations. Most people, most of the time, only know that they will die because they've learned it, usually during childhood. [link to www.shaktitechnology.com] Died 100ed times in dreams, in looping scenes. So no more death fear. Last Edited by Newbie Dreamer on 02/24/2012 10:57 AM My mission here to create heaven in this world. Search for thread: Merkaba chakras meditation by art. Balance yourself. Preparing body for multidimensional self. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 789975 United States 02/24/2012 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm no bible thumper but your recollection reminded me of this... Baptism by fire... [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 02/24/2012 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a child can't understand it... yacht knot dew it. Quoting: Uncle Mikey Bible basics 101... don't listen to the serpent. Some of did and got burned. Way to go OP, leading people into the 'fire' with disinfo. Seek and ye shall find. You are trapped in a fear based system. Those saved are guided by the holy ghost, so I fear not. Like I said, been there done that... decades ago. It's ego driven. "You get this cool flaming sword", like some stupid video game. Giving in to the serpent is all about retarding ones natural ability to sense danger in the first place. That's one of the goals of bringing this all out now... so in a way your are correct... you have forgotten right from wrong... and you have become a fearless fool. The elites have been saving this one for long time. Once people lose their instincts and common sense, it's game over. So are you Luciferian? Please clarify this 'Holy Ghost'. Remember folks, your Pineal Gland loves darkness. When in darkness, it releases Melatonin to further your drunken sleep state. Basic common sense should tell you how wrong it is to 'activate' it... but go ahead if you are too scared to trust the Bible. Oh, and please praise the Pope while you are at it, because HE is the one promoting this stuff... Looking good!!! I seeked and I found. Does touching naked men make the fire work better as Crowley suggests? Jesus is simple... not complex. No 'rituals' need to be performed to be saved. Its completely different than this. But this is some hefty dark side material TPTB keep as their front door/gate into this knowledge. And they put this out with deliberate intent to cause fear, to push away the good seekers and only encourage those who like all the dark side stuff. That is to keep their power base, dark side. But there is a completely different meaning to the whole thing, and the pineal is a big part of everything. It is what Christed Yeshua. But he did this the right way because He came into the world to assist from the Beyond/Heaven. So even if you don't believe the outer trappings, real/metaphor or both, we can progress even if we never stumble upon the mysteries, but only if we're true to the Love and Wisdom in us and go past their corruptions and negative traps in the bible, ie war is good. God is war, kill those who disobey, and all transgressors, and anyone who is not of your race, inhabiting the land, because you want that land, etc etc etc. I mean you have to weed that stuff out. I agree though, one can just do this naturally. Next post will mention some things about the pineal that are different, and what they did with the old knowledge, and how it is corrupted in such a way now, due to their own frequency of predator and dominator, that truth now appears to be the dark side path. And they turn the lock on the key of the old knowledge. Like Yeshua said, Matthew 23 13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to." Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 02/24/2012 12:55 PM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 02/24/2012 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pineal apparently sits in the middle of the brain in darkness. When I get notes taken and kind verify all the links with names, on a book that has collected all of the studies, and that will take time, maybe even days, then can back this up with the science. For now will just say this, the pineal has the real tissue of an eye, and it acts like a photo transmitter, it has water within, and crystals, and seems to emit photons. Ie. colored light. It seems to be responsible for images in our minds, and our connection to Family, they would say god or gods. It has a great deal more to do with Light than Dark. However, since before Sumar, the old knowledge got stolen and they kept it under lock and key, and badly twisted it. Serpent/Wisdom/Sophia, didn't mean a reptile. I agree with the above poster that it is best for that to be your Higher Self, however in a duality school, we probably have choices, to connect with the field's energy or Higher Self, or Father/Mother, the Good Family's energy, all that is the Highest Love and Goodness above. It is where the silver cord joins and is a stargate, as the cord is a wormtunnel too. They Always Choose Words Like Serpent And Worm to put people off the truth. They should just say spirals of energy. Now how do we activate it? What is this about? Well, the masons or mystery school, have everything coded. All the rocks or mounds are the pineal, from the Sumerian, Primitive Mountain, in Greek the Omphalus stones, in Rome the Baetyl, which in turn became Bethel and Bethlehem, the birth place of the Christed one. The axis mundi. And, their bird, a ben ben, which is an eagle amongst others but its really the symbolic phonenix, which is rebirth, or transformation, supposed to progression, joining our Family above, or in mystery school they would say, becoming like gods. The 7 seals or temples or gateways are the chakra's. Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 02/24/2012 12:58 PM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 02/24/2012 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, when these dots all connected in the last book and research I've been doing, I kept asking. Wait, how is it, that TPTB, who (without casting judgment on individuals) as a whole managing this planet have the fruits of greed, wars, exploitation, you name it, and represent by their fruits the turn around on the word LOVE, which is EVOL backwards. How is it, that these people have set as their goal, the fire of the kundaline, and the awakening of the third eye, to become the phoneix, but...... They havent taken the Journey. Christ Yeshua took the journey. The journey was to learn the lessons of all the chakras, at least by the intent of our hearts, which means that one surpasses the survival ones, to the unconditional love and then the throat which means, shining your light, speaking for truth and justice, equality, using talents, service to others, like unto Christ Yeshua. If one doesnt go this route, how are they going to go to the goal. And one doesn't even have to know what Chakras are or do those meditations to take that journey, they can do it naturally, but they can also meditate, it depends on their hearts and understandings. If TPTB take the shortcuts, ie they've coded shrooms, cannibis and salvia for example, and for people who are doing their soul work, learning from the shadow in themselves, ie they start to see they want to overcome the problems in their lives and shortcomings they have, ie the karma, or the things that keep coming back, and actually start to work on themselves, and perhaps have faith in Goodness and seek within, seeking help to discover their weaknesses and turn them around. People like this, may have a better experience with shaman herbs than the greedy predator types, because its a frequency match. But no one needs the shaman herbs to do this. Natural is best. And the pineal is a phone line home, but there are many numbers to dial, frequency, Jacob's ladder shows infinite realms/channels, mansions, some are hellzones or winterland, though not necessarily maximimum security abyss, which seems more like a time out of the whole mutliverse in some way. However, it seems to me, that they took the short cuts while stuck in lower energy frequency centers, primitive dog eat dog, social darwinism, pryamid brainsets. And that means the contact was even bigger bullies than they are. Christ took the route of Love. There is a light side truth in all of this too. And yet someone in the jungle who never studies this can just do this naturally, by not obeying or buying into bad ideas; and then questioning everything, being kind, helping others, overcoming their weaknesses. BUT THE PINEAL EMITS PHOTONS. Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 02/24/2012 12:53 PM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
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Amy_A User ID: 1447484 United States 02/24/2012 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a child can't understand it... yacht knot dew it. Quoting: Uncle Mikey Bible basics 101... don't listen to the serpent. Some of did and got burned. Way to go OP, leading people into the 'fire' with disinfo. Seek and ye shall find. You are trapped in a fear based system. Those saved are guided by the holy ghost, so I fear not. Like I said, been there done that... decades ago. It's ego driven. "You get this cool flaming sword", like some stupid video game. Giving in to the serpent is all about retarding ones natural ability to sense danger in the first place. That's one of the goals of bringing this all out now... so in a way your are correct... you have forgotten right from wrong... and you have become a fearless fool. The elites have been saving this one for long time. Once people lose their instincts and common sense, it's game over. So are you Luciferian? Please clarify this 'Holy Ghost'. Remember folks, your Pineal Gland loves darkness. When in darkness, it releases Melatonin to further your drunken sleep state. Basic common sense should tell you how wrong it is to 'activate' it... but go ahead if you are too scared to trust the Bible. Oh, and please praise the Pope while you are at it, because HE is the one promoting this stuff... Looking good!!! I seeked and I found. Does touching naked men make the fire work better as Crowley suggests? Jesus is simple... not complex. No 'rituals' need to be performed to be saved. HI Uncle Mickey. Can you tell us why the Pineal Gland is in our heads? BTW who put the Third Eye in humans? I believe in a Creator God and his Son the Jesus Christ the Bright and Morning Star. Jesus was pinned to a cross when he tried to show the world that the Synagogue of Satan or Bankers were evil and controlling the world. Those same bloodlines are ruling today. What does the Bible say about the Pineal Gland and the Third Eye? BTW why am I so much more spiritual today since I was taught how to deal with multiple medical and mental issues. Jesus gave me knowledge to deal with my own problems without taking poisons "medications" that left me in a zombie like condition for the past ten years. I myself have underwent massive change in the past year. I was almost dead Nov 2010 and Jesus stepped in and showed me things to heal my body through natural living and breathing exercises. Some people say I am new age because of what I have been doing to get better. How can I pray to Jesus multiple times per day and be wrong? I am shown synchronicity, coincidences, intuition, and other things that I thought was just random events. I read where seeing synchronicity is part of the Devils agenda by different Christians. How can Jesus be showing me the wrong path when I go directly to him in prayer? Sometimes I feel energy coming from my arms and my third eye starts to twitch. Peace to you Amy |
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Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 02/24/2012 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pineal emits photons and they have scientific studies that show this. Also, meditating and seeking to connect to Source and seek within is important, it helps people enormously. If you're incorporating it into a normal life, wherein the life you're living is the natural chakra lessons too, and you are going through this awakening by seizing the gift of your life, and working with it. In other words, hiding in secrecy and learning,disassociating from other, from humanity, is not the true way at all. But at the same time, why is there such a strong inner push inside to get the heart of all these mysteries, not nudged within, but pushed, if there was not some reason to gain this information? The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1585083 United States 02/24/2012 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, when these dots all connected in the last book and research I've been doing, I kept asking. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn Wait, how is it, that TPTB, who (without casting judgment on individuals) as a whole managing this planet have the fruits of greed, wars, exploitation, you name it, and represent by their fruits the turn around on the word LOVE, which is EVOL backwards. How is it, that these people have set as their goal, the fire of the kundaline, and the awakening of the third eye, to become the phoneix, but...... They havent taken the Journey. Christ Yeshua took the journey. The journey was to learn the lessons of all the chakras, at least by the intent of our hearts, which means that one surpasses the survival ones, to the unconditional love and then the throat which means, shining your light, speaking for truth and justice, equality, using talents, service to others, like unto Christ Yeshua. If one doesnt go this route, how are they going to go to the goal. And one doesn't even have to know what Chakras are or do those meditations to take that journey, they can do it naturally, but they can also meditate, it depends on their hearts and understandings. If TPTB take the shortcuts, ie they've coded shrooms, cannibis and salvia for example, and for people who are doing their soul work, learning from the shadow in themselves, ie they start to see they want to overcome the problems in their lives and shortcomings they have, ie the karma, or the things that keep coming back, and actually start to work on themselves, and perhaps have faith in Goodness and seek within, seeking help to discover their weaknesses and turn them around. People like this, may have a better experience with shaman herbs than the greedy predator types, because its a frequency match. But no one needs the shaman herbs to do this. Natural is best. And the pineal is a phone line home, but there are many numbers to dial, frequency, Jacob's ladder shows infinite realms/channels, mansions, some are hellzones or winterland, though not necessarily maximimum security abyss, which seems more like a time out of the whole mutliverse in some way. However, it seems to me, that they took the short cuts while stuck in lower energy frequency centers, primitive dog eat dog, social darwinism, pryamid brainsets. And that means the contact was even bigger bullies than they are. Christ took the route of Love. There is a light side truth in all of this too. And yet someone in the jungle who never studies this can just do this naturally, by not obeying or buying into bad ideas; and then questioning everything, being kind, helping others, overcoming their weaknesses. BUT THE PINEAL EMITS PHOTONS. Great post! Keepm coming:) |
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