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Message Subject PILOT SPEAKS OUT ON CHEMTRAILS HAARP
Poster Handle George B
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Interesting to say the least. . . .coffee4


The rapporteur met with the editor of this website several months ago. Sometime during the 2 hour discussion progressed, I asked what profession he carried on. Only after some insistence became apparent that he was working professionally in the cockpit as a pilot. I then gently brought the topic to chemtrails and asked him if he this term and the underlying assumptions that we are dealing with artificially-produced chemical contrails, are known. Then came first hesitantly, "Yes, I have a lot to the Internet read ". When I made it clear that I am the editor of the website [link to www.chemtrails-was] info.de, and wanted to know how he stands and what he may have even seen from the cockpit, he told me: "I first doubted whether the arguments of those reports that over chemtrails correspond mainly to be distributed on the Internet, the facts. But then I will personally experienced something that I now believe that chemicals sprayed from aircraft, which produce those enduring 'contrails', which we call chemtrails - for any purpose whatsoever . Since I did not take notes during the conversation, and wanted to clarify some details, I asked the pilots a few weeks later, at a detailed record of what happened. The written description was made on 17.08.09 is reproduced below as a literal transcript.
Strange climb instructions by flight control center

"After taking off from Frankfurt airport ... we were in route climb north of Nuremberg.
It was around 14.00 clock in the afternoon. The visibility was very good, we did not fly through clouds. On the day there was an extensive low pressure system located over Germany.
In passing through one of around 11-12.000 foot is then passed to the next radar sector ', which then gives further climb free. These shares'll be finding generally handled quite generous. We shall then by 'Munich Radar' is usually released on the same flight next area 250, that is 25,000 feet.
Not so on this day. The following releases were made in 1000 always increments. That was then, the statement of the radar controllers 'Climb 14,000 feet', then the next 'Climb 15,000 feet', 'Climb 16,000 feet'.
We knew that we had to decide on an air traffic which have approximately the same flight path had to, but could not or would grow more slowly than we ourselves could have done.

On the so-called TCAS (Traffic Collision and Avoidance System), a monitoring tool with which you can watch the skies for one's own plane around, then we noticed a traffic on our right and a little ahead of us. The weather was good, we were visually watch for the expected traffic crossing over us. This was not long in coming.

Chemtrailsausbringung by 2 cargo aircraft of the type C-17 Globemaster from the wings

It was a heavy transport aircraft of the American type C-17 Globemaster at a height of 18,000 feet. (6000 m)
Based on our observation of the sky using the TCAS system, we suspected that a machine of this type in a few miles farther apart in the same amount behind. This we could not form visually, and I am sure that a second machine was available.
What do we make up accounts but was that the plane a thick 'contrails' left behind. At this altitude and the prevailing season a 'not to be expected phenomenon. Planes that were flying in dense airspace and were still much higher still see clearly, or to be contrails behind them. So it HAS to have it done here, at an output of substances, which can not be explained by the conventional engine exhaust.
(Addendum to note: At the oral argument previously made decidedly description, I asked the pilot whether the banding is 17erfolgt from the engines of the Globemaster C-. He replied: "Absolutely not!" The substances of which depicted the Chemtrails formed, so came from nozzles in the wings of the cargo planes, probably in the range of engines)


Other observations made in this regard pilots Chemtrailszunahme

In my daily professional life (as a pilot's note) I notice that this 'spraying' grow significantly. This spreading operations, which are referred to by the media, often referred to as 'high Nebelfelder' I've seen all summer of 2009 on, mostly at altitudes of about 18,000 -35,000 feet (6000 - 12000 m).


How does the fog of chemtrails from contrails of smoke at the height

It is often not easy to distinguish a vapor from engine exhaust from a chemtrail too. But every day I see planes in the sky high, sometimes at close range if they cross the flight paths.
One can clearly see how a contrail looks like and looks like a chemtrail. Especially the behavior in the air can be distinguished. While a vapor trail is somewhat light and thin, moving usually quite quickly dissipated, see chemtrails "heavy, sluggish and somehow close out." And so they behave.
It happens that we leave on a day in the morning a specific airport, on its surroundings chemtrails have been applied. Let us return then hours later to land, there are still the chemtrails, and have spread into a great gray veil, while in the wider environment far different weather and wind there was in place.
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The eyewitness met with the editor of this website [link to www.chemtrails-info.de] several months ago. Sometime during the 2 hour discussion, he asked what his profession was. Only after some insistence it became apparent that he was working professionally in the cockpit as a pilot. I then brought up the topic of chemtrails and asked him if he knew this term and the underlying assumptions that we are dealing with, artificially-produced chemical contrails. Then hesitantly he said, "Yes, I have read a lot on the Internet ". Then the editor made it clear that I am the editor of the website [link to www.chemtrails-info.de,] and wanted to know where he stands and what he may have even seen from the cockpit. He told me "I first doubted whether the arguments of those reports of chemtrails distributed on the internet correspond to the facts. But then I personally experienced something so I now believe that chemicals are sprayed from aircraft. Which produce those enduring 'contrails', which we call chemtrails for some purpose. Since the editor did not take notes during the conversation, and wanted to clarify some details, the editor asked the pilot a few weeks later for a detailed record of what happened. The written description made on August 17, 2009 is reproduced below as a literal transcript.

Strange climbing instructions came from the flight control center after taking off from Frankfurt airport ... we were in route, climbing north of Nuremberg. It was around 1400hrs in the afternoon. The visibility was very good, we did not fly through clouds. On that day there was an extensive low pressure system located over Germany.
After passing through around 11-12,000 feet we were handed off to the next radar sector which then gives further climb
instructions. These climb rates usually would be generally quite generous. 'Munich Radar' is usually sends us to 250, that is 25,000 feet at this point.
Not so on this day. The following releases were made in 1000 increments. The statement of the radar controllers was 'Climb 14,000 feet', then the next 'Climb 15,000 feet', 'Climb 16,000 feet'. We knew that we had other air traffic which had approximately the same flight path, but could not or would climb faster than we could.

On the TCAS (Traffic Collision and Avoidance System), a monitoring tool with which you can watch the airspace for other aircraft around one's own plane, we noticed traffic on our right and a little ahead of us. The weather was good, so we were watching for the expected traffic crossing over us. This was not long in coming. It was two C-17 Globemaster cargo aircraft chemtrailing from their wings.
It was a heavy American cargo aircraft C-17 Globemaster at a height of 18,000 feet. (6000 m) Based on our observation of the airspace using the TCAS system, we suspected that there were other aircraft of this type a few miles apart and the same distance behind. This we could not visually confirm but I am sure that a second aircraft was there.

So here is an account of the plane having thick 'contrails' trailing behind. Contrails at this altitude and the prevailing season(temperature) is not an expected phenomenon. Planes that were flying in much higher and more dense airspace clearly left no contrails behind them.
So it HAS to be stated here that there was an output of substances which can not be explained by conventional engine exhaust. To clarify, I asked the pilot whether the chemtrails were aligned with the engines of the Globemaster C-17. He replied: "Absolutely not!" The trailing chemtrails came from nozzles in the wings of the C-17 cargo planes, probably in the vicinity of the engines

Other pilot observations made regarding Chemtrails.
In my daily professional life as a pilot I notice that this 'spraying' is growing significantly. I've seen these spraying operations, which are referred to by the media as 'high fog patches' all summer during 2009, mostly at altitudes of about 18,000 -35,000 feet(6000 - 12000 m). How does the chemtrail 'fog' form from contrail vapor at that height?
It is not easy to distinguish a vapor from engine exhaust to that of a chemtrail. But every day I see planes high in the sky sometimes at close range if they cross our flight path. One can clearly see the difference between how a contrail looks and how a chemtrail looks by their distinguishing behavior in the air. While a contrail vapor trail is somewhat light and thin, dissipating usually quite quickly, chemtrails behave in a "heavy, sluggish and persistant" manner.

Sometimes we leave in the morning from a specific airport where chemtrails have been applied. We return hours later to land and the chemtrails have spread out into a great gray veil. While in the wider environment they were experiencing far different weather and wind conditions.
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