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Swiss banks to Disclose Offshore Account Holder's Identities

 
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I thought the whole point of those accounts was that a person was just issued a special number with no personal identifying information, and whoever had the number and passcode had access to the account.
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Swiss banks will likely settle a sweeping U.S. probe of offshore tax evasion by paying billions of dollars and handing over names of thousands of Americans who have secret accounts, according to two people familiar with the matter.



Wonder how many names of liberal celebrities & politicos will be on that list?

You know the ones who demand that the rest of us pay more taxes & economize while they have millions squirreled in offshore accounts, drive around in chauffeured limos & flit around in private jets.
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Thanks.hf

Just got back from taking the kiddo to the Orthodontist. Gald the thread is still alive.

I am very interested in getting a visual on this list. One thing I am certain of, it is laden with hypocrites.

Stopping the offshore account havens will do more for making the uber rich pay appropriate taxes than any alteration of the rate. What difference does it make if the rate is 25% or 85% if the money is hidden & they pay nothingon it anyway?
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Thank you for pin, Mods.

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Rogow AIPAC protege Tony Mombach was paid via secret accounts for his Sayanim role for Mossad / Mombach / Jonathan Pollard slush fund and witness destruction .
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Tax the war profiteers . Occupy K St...... Save the OGALLA AQUIFER ......... Stop the KEYSTONE PIPELINE .. Designed to pollute water supplies , for short term greed ........ Indict lawyer lobbyists Paul Elliot and David Goldwyn of the AIPAC Perpetual War Lobby .
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short term greed, like caring about or hiring only union folk for make-work positions?
That kind of short term greed, for a flood union dues for liberal campaigns?
Since when is union/local hiring the goal of federal money dispersal?
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Holder will not prosecute any black democrats or anyone making a contribution to Obama's re-election.
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Holder will not prosecute any black democrats or anyone making a contribution to Obama's re-election.
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Probably right about that.

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The problem is not only with evading taxes...it is legal for a person to have a foreign bank account. It is even legal to move funds offshore. The problem is getting the funds back on shore to spend.

A US citizen must tell the IRS that he/she has a foreign account or it is a huge fine. That is where people are going to be screwed even if they don't have millions...
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You have to disclose any accounts OVER $10,000

You have an account with $5,000 in it you don't have to disclose shit.
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I'm sure they gave some of their bestest clients enough notice to move their money elsewhere...like Latin America ;). You'll see some scapegoats who will take the fall for the big guys, nothing more.
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Yep, this case has been going on since 2009.
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Yes, I was going to say, this was in the alternative news a couple years ago and nothing came of it. I guess it's taken this long to get through all of the legal wrangling. Let the truth be told, I say. I'm certain that there are plenty of US Congressmen who have accounts there. Some of them may not even know they exist since they are put in place for blackmail purposes.

Also, there was the sweep of arrest of bankers involved in the mortgage business, most in Houston, Texas area a couple years ago, like 600 of them if memory serves correctly. It was assumed that many of these would spill the beans on higher-ups involved in banking corruption. But still, nothing on that yet.
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I thought the whole point of those accounts was that a person was just issued a special number with no personal identifying information, and whoever had the number and passcode had access to the account.
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Numbered accounts don't exist anywhere now except one country....

Andorra

and yes, you can open an account there as a US citizen with nothing but a passport.

Viva freedom.
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What's the cut for the Swiss tattlers?
Anonymous Coward 51975085: Sorry to interrupt! We are in desperate need of solid info! it's the new drug around here!
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What's the cut for the Swiss tattlers?
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We don't invade Switzerland by claiming that chocolate factories are bio-terror labs making WMD's.
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What's the cut for the Swiss tattlers?
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UBS can stay still stay open here.
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He, I thought the next media blitz was supposed to be more gulf oil? or was it another plague, ...hmmm. I know, it was more pirates!
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He, I thought the next media blitz was supposed to be more gulf oil? or was it another plague, ...hmmm. I know, it was more pirates!
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Banking pirates? Is that what you mean?

jerkit
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-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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The problem is not only with evading taxes...it is legal for a person to have a foreign bank account. It is even legal to move funds offshore. The problem is getting the funds back on shore to spend.

A US citizen must tell the IRS that he/she has a foreign account or it is a huge fine. That is where people are going to be screwed even if they don't have millions...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1377908


You have to disclose any accounts OVER $10,000

You have an account with $5,000 in it you don't have to disclose shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3910472


Not true...you have to disclose ANY foreign accounts as a US citizen

[link to www.irs.gov]
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The problem is not only with evading taxes...it is legal for a person to have a foreign bank account. It is even legal to move funds offshore. The problem is getting the funds back on shore to spend.

A US citizen must tell the IRS that he/she has a foreign account or it is a huge fine. That is where people are going to be screwed even if they don't have millions...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1377908


You have to disclose any accounts OVER $10,000

You have an account with $5,000 in it you don't have to disclose shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3910472


Not true...you have to disclose ANY foreign accounts as a US citizen

[link to www.irs.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1377908


oh well, screw em.
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The real reason this is happening is to blackmail certain people. Those with offshore accounts that play ball with the big boys, they won't be ratted out nor prosecuted. Those that don't play ball, well surprise surprise they were hiding money and will be charged with tax evasion.
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all your $ are belong to us !
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all your $ are belong to us !
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Then I am coming for your chocolate!!

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"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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all your $ are belong to us !
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Then I am coming for your chocolate!!

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No!!!
Not the chocolate!!!

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Wonder how many names of liberal celebrities & politicos will be on that list?

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you can damn well bet Soros'
name will be on that list
many times over.

but nothing will be done
about it, only those who oppose
his objectives will be uprooted.
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all your $ are belong to us !
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Then I am coming for your chocolate!!

Killer Bunny
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No!!!
Not the chocolate!!!

Quasar
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Yes, the chocolate! Hand it over or we are going in!

Killer Bunny
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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[link to www.bloomberg.com]


Swiss banks will likely settle a sweeping U.S. probe of offshore tax evasion by paying billions of dollars and handing over names of thousands of Americans who have secret accounts, according to two people familiar with the matter.



Wonder how many names of liberal celebrities & politicos will be on that list?

You know the ones who demand that the rest of us pay more taxes & economize while they have millions squirreled in offshore accounts, drive around in chauffeured limos & flit around in private jets.
 Quoting: Jane Smith


Celebrities and Politicians?

You think they are the ones with lots of money offshore?

lol please....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3556086


What the previous poster meant was that celebrities and politicians, for the most part, don't have the kind of money necessary to benefit from and/or take advantage of Swiss banking. With the exception of the very TOP pols and celebs, I would agree. You might find that Bill Clinton, the Bushes and maybe some third world dictators have accounts, but your average congresscritter is just upper middle class. The same is ture in Hollywood. Mel Gibson, George Lucas, and Jack Nicholson might have accounts, but your run of the mill actors are living paycheck to paycheck, just a bit more extravagantly than the rest of us.

Soooo .... who is it that has all the offshore accounts the IRS is chasing down? It sure as hell is not struggling middle class Americans.
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Swiss banks will likely settle a sweeping U.S. probe of offshore tax evasion by paying billions of dollars and handing over names of thousands of Americans who have secret accounts, according to two people familiar with the matter.



Wonder how many names of liberal celebrities & politicos will be on that list?

You know the ones who demand that the rest of us pay more taxes & economize while they have millions squirreled in offshore accounts, drive around in chauffeured limos & flit around in private jets.
 Quoting: Jane Smith


Celebrities and Politicians?

You think they are the ones with lots of money offshore?

lol please....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3556086


Soooo .... who is it that has all the offshore accounts the IRS is chasing down? It sure as hell is not struggling middle class Americans.
 Quoting: Jane Smith


What the previous poster meant was that celebrities and politicians, for the most part, don't have the kind of money necessary to benefit from and/or take advantage of Swiss banking. With the exception of the very TOP pols and celebs, I would agree. You might find that Bill Clinton, the Bushes and maybe some third world dictators have accounts, but your average congresscritter is just upper middle class. The same is ture in Hollywood. Mel Gibson, George Lucas, and Jack Nicholson might have accounts, but your run of the mill actors are living paycheck to paycheck, just a bit more extravagantly than the rest of us.
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I am still curious to know who is on that list.
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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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all your $ are belong to us !
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Then I am coming for your chocolate!!

:Killer Bunny:
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No!!!
Not the chocolate!!!

Quasar
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1313791


Yes, the chocolate! Hand it over or we are going in!

:Killer Bunny:
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How long can anyone survive without their chocolate Jane Smith?...
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The real reason this is happening is to blackmail certain people. Those with offshore accounts that play ball with the big boys, they won't be ratted out nor prosecuted. Those that don't play ball, well surprise surprise they were hiding money and will be charged with tax evasion.
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