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Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,

 
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Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
I can't go into details about my situation because the case is pending in criminal court, but the intelligent among you will be able to infer what exactly it is I am accused of.


Suffice it to say I am for the first time in my life in a tremendous amount of trouble with the law over a false accusation made against me.
At age 51, I have never been arrested for or even accused of any serious breach of the law, my legal problems have never resulted in my having a criminal record.

I think it is important to add that I never really worried about getting into such a situation because i had faith in the legal system, that it would not stoop to what amounts to malicious persecution, and that if i didn't do anything wrong I had nothing to worry about.

Don't believe as I have!!!. It appears to me that thought the DA would have to know I am innocent at this point due to clear evidence that proves it or in the very least strongly suggests it, the prosecution continues and the charge has not been dropped.

The crime I am accused of is one that causes what can best be described as an emotional disconnection of rational thought, and only me closest family and friends seem to be able to perceive my innocence.

The reason for me posting this is to get some insight into how one can defend oneself against an infamous and what can best be described as a heinous breach or moral etiquette against a very vulnerable and innocent victim that is not able to relate the truth of the matter due to their desire to protect and satisfy the individual who is actually accusing me , this due to a conflict between them and myself,.
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
I can't go into details about my situation because the case is pending in criminal court, but the intelligent among you will be able to infer what exactly it is I am accused of.


Suffice it to say I am for the first time in my life in a tremendous amount of trouble with the law over a false accusation made against me.
At age 51, I have never been arrested for or even accused of any serious breach of the law, my legal problems have never resulted in my having a criminal record.

I think it is important to add that I never really worried about getting into such a situation because i had faith in the legal system, that it would not stoop to what amounts to malicious persecution, and that if i didn't do anything wrong I had nothing to worry about.

Don't believe as I have!!!. It appears to me that thought the DA would have to know I am innocent at this point due to clear evidence that proves it or in the very least strongly suggests it, the prosecution continues and the charge has not been dropped.

The crime I am accused of is one that causes what can best be described as an emotional disconnection of rational thought, and only me closest family and friends seem to be able to perceive my innocence.

The reason for me posting this is to get some insight into how one can defend oneself against an infamous and what can best be described as a heinous breach or moral etiquette against a very vulnerable and innocent victim that is not able to relate the truth of the matter due to their desire to protect and satisfy the individual who is actually accusing me , this due to a conflict between them and myself,.
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you really cant, the whole point is for you to be forced to feed the officers of the court until you run out of liberty or money or both.
Especially in 'family' court, if you can be drained, they will try because it's about the money and reinforcing the process, not the justice aspect.
Make no mistake, this is about enforcing the priority of the system, and nothing more, if you offer the potential of resistance, they will try to dispirit you.
BTDT, It indeed is a tyranny. It is survivable but not tolerable.
Best regards
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
I can't go into details about my situation because the case is pending in criminal court, but the intelligent among you will be able to infer what exactly it is I am accused of.


Suffice it to say I am for the first time in my life in a tremendous amount of trouble with the law over a false accusation made against me.
At age 51, I have never been arrested for or even accused of any serious breach of the law, my legal problems have never resulted in my having a criminal record.

I think it is important to add that I never really worried about getting into such a situation because i had faith in the legal system, that it would not stoop to what amounts to malicious persecution, and that if i didn't do anything wrong I had nothing to worry about.

Don't believe as I have!!!. It appears to me that thought the DA would have to know I am innocent at this point due to clear evidence that proves it or in the very least strongly suggests it, the prosecution continues and the charge has not been dropped.

The crime I am accused of is one that causes what can best be described as an emotional disconnection of rational thought, and only me closest family and friends seem to be able to perceive my innocence.

The reason for me posting this is to get some insight into how one can defend oneself against an infamous and what can best be described as a heinous breach or moral etiquette against a very vulnerable and innocent victim that is not able to relate the truth of the matter due to their desire to protect and satisfy the individual who is actually accusing me , this due to a conflict between them and myself,.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1415568


you really cant, the whole point is for you to be forced to feed the officers of the court until you run out of liberty or money or both.
Especially in 'family' court, if you can be drained, they will try because it's about the money and reinforcing the process, not the justice aspect.
Make no mistake, this is about enforcing the priority of the system, and nothing more, if you offer the potential of resistance, they will try to dispirit you.
BTDT, It indeed is a tyranny. It is survivable but not tolerable.
Best regards
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640

Yes, that is the conclusion I came to as well, which leaves one with the inevitable conclusion that the system of justice in place in this country is unreliable, uninterested in true justice, and basically dangerous to have to deal with. It does seem to me as if it is about business, and nothing personal. From the bail bondsman to the lawyer representing me, they all seem to be my best friend because they are getting what little I have worked so hard to accumulate, and everyone else involved could care less about my guilt or innocence.

It is sad, really, and a poor reflection of our society in general
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Sad to say, but you have to be on the offensive against anything now. I will not even be alone in a room with someone (other than my wife or adult son) because I have seen others who I know are innocent, have to jump through hoops to prove themselves.
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
understand this can happen to anybody at any time, someone pernicious rotter decides to bollox up the rest of your life for whatever reason, although money works well enough as one.
So they must prioritize and they choose those that would otherwise offer the best potential of claiming soveriegnity for themselves and their property.
Notice that only the subversives get the free lawyers of any capacity.
People should realize that anyone can initiate destruction of anothers life for naught more than a willing accomplice among any number of officers of the court and a small filing fee. And even if you finally win, you still lose in most cases.
Sometimes the final effects of this intentionally .malicious misadventure claims victims at later dates
This is why some go to extremes and do a revenge move and end up a suicide by cop, and of course that news disappears withing minutes just so nobody else in the same situation gets ideas.
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All I can say is you better have an extremely good lawyer because if your crime relates to sex and morals, odds are you are going DOWN. And then, unlike with murderers, armed robbers, and such, you will have to register your whereabouts for the rest of your life. My heart goes out to you.
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Sad to say, but you have to be on the offensive against anything now. I will not even be alone in a room with someone (other than my wife or adult son) because I have seen others who I know are innocent, have to jump through hoops to prove themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1205628


Dont you get it?
It's no accident, and you are not innocent til proven guilty if you have to bankrupt yourself to do so or rely upon some inexperienced hack to defend yourself against a mailcious process unconcerned with your life.
The whole and perhapse most important point of being a nation and culture is to have some respite from the aggressors with other value systems and other perceptions of the use of power and propriety.
The us has become a farm where the proles are just a herd managed by the officers of the court for their own culture of power and manipulation to dispatch with prejudice anyone than may eventually attempt to opt out.
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All I can say is you better have an extremely good lawyer because if your crime relates to sex and morals, odds are you are going DOWN. And then, unlike with murderers, armed robbers, and such, you will have to register your whereabouts for the rest of your life. My heart goes out to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 871455


the mcmartin family lost everything over a manipulated and irresponsible persecution where the evidence was not even possible and later proven to be completley spurious, yet the prosecuting attny still claims her only duty was to the process, and justice had to be appreciated in the process, not the results, to wit, you have to break some eggs to make an omelette.
Some omelette.
This is what the officers hide behind, the priority of process, one that they create for themselves and protect from review at all costs. After all areas of endovour have been socialized, the only one left to control itself will be the lawyers, claiming nobody else is capable of evaluation of the system they've created
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
you don't have to prove yourself innocent. You probably can't.

you have to prove your accuser to be guilty

if your accuser is wife or relative you'll be able to tape them showing what their actually looking for

if your accuser are social services look into the past of the accusers
they surely have been spotted to be wrong before, paranoid or such


Once I was in a crowned public square with a female friend. A little girl was playing screaming "help me help me". My friend joking, cleverly stated: "don't help her or they will charged of pedophilia". We are actually arrived to that point.
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
all decent people should just GTFO out of america if they are able...
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all decent people should just GTFO out of america if they are able...
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Where exactly is that land not ruled by lawyers or dictators?
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all decent people should just GTFO out of america if they are able...
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Where exactly is that land not ruled by lawyers or dictators?
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Iran

if you believe western lying whore media they have religious dictatorship but if you use your brain you know it is just a strong state fighting western intel
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all decent people should just GTFO out of america if they are able...
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Where exactly is that land not ruled by lawyers or dictators?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


Iran

if you believe western lying whore media they have religious dictatorship but if you use your brain you know it is just a strong state fighting western intel
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
I believe you.
When I had my AWAKENING and experience with injustice and the “law” it caused me to learn that there really was very little if any justice in this world.

Regardless what they teach about it in school, its basically fake, and the justice systems seems to be primarily controlled and run by a criminal ‘elite’ who have it rigged in their favor.

Just do your best to get yourself through it.
And eventually this nightmare will pass.

What I did to learn about real justice and truth, was to throw myself totally into serious spiritual study, which I will happily continue for the rest of my life.

And so my experience with injustice turned into a blessing for me because it actually caused me to study and learn about real important things which I would never have learned if I did not go through what was first perceived as a truly terrible experience.

I also learned that we are all powerful spiritual beings.
And one of the most important and powerful things we can do for another is to bless them.

And I certainly send a blessing to you.
And hope you can turn your situation into a blessing for yourself also.

..............
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
Had you discovered that the legal system is NOTHING to have faith in, you would have known how to protect yourself.

That being said, you're pretty much screwed. If you're innocent. Good luck to you.
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Is it some kind of bestiality thing?
We opened doors by thinking.
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
Welcome to the system.

I'm doing a google search for you, pay attention to the sites at top:

[link to www.google.com]

When you get sites like these:

[link to www.slate.com]

Why Innocent People Confess
It's not a breakdown of American justice. It's American justice working as designed.

Or this:

Plea-Bargain Sentences Tempt the Innocent to Plead Guilty

[link to www.fhsulaw.com]

You start getting a better idea of how the Justice System works.

With 95+% of the cases being settled in plea bargaining that uses mob tactics (making you an offer you can't refuse) because the system is geared toward maximized prosecution with little real concern for justice, you can see that you are going down a road of a system that DOES NOT CARE if you are innocent.

Folk on this site worry that the constitution is going to be taken away. It won't, it will stand proud and true, what is really happening is that they are criminalizing more and more things, thus by making you a criminal they take away your rights - FOR LIFE - aiming to make criminals of us all so none of us will actually have rights.

I hope you can afford a good attorney, but don't be surprised if he is suggesting that you take the offer, because he works FOR the system, not for you.
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Is it some kind of bestiality thing?
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Like I said, i cannot go into any specifics, but no, it isn't.
Ironically , if it had , no laws would have been broken in the area which I live, which in of itself is a sad commentary on our system of laws and justice.

I will give you this one hint, not trying to be mysterious at all I just have been told not to discuss the details of my case, but it involves a person who is much too young to understand the implications of what they have been convinced to say, an individual who would refuse to participate if they were told what the results could be and the damage it is doing to my life because the individual indeed loves me and is very emotionally attached to me.

The person behind it has as their primary objective to destroy my life simply because I wanted them out of it.

There is no evidence of any kind that indicates my guilt or implicates me in a crime other than I knew and interacted with the alleged victim while their family stayed in my home. This is a crime which unfortunately requires only an accusation to arrest an individual in this state.

For what it's worth, I have not been indicted as of yet and I am already out over 20 thousand dollars in legal fees and bond. My lawyer (pronounced "liar") claims he believes me and insists he can get me off, but I am considering hiring another simply because he seems too confident.

Looking over the success rate of lawyers in cases such as mine I find that most victims of the legal system such as my self succumb to the plea bargaining ploy which technically gives the lawyer and prosecution both a 'win' in their tally sheets, something I am sure is behind the plea bargaining system.
I refuse to be intimidated by such tactics as threats of being convicted and sent to prison, but I have seen people get convicted here on the flimsiest of circumstantial evidence. This is something I find criminal in of itself.. As for my lawyer, to his credit he has filed for discovery and gotten me a radical bond reduction, but only after I was severely beaten in jail by convicts who undoubtedly were at some time in their lives the victims of similar abuse as to what i was accused of.
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
Consult with a second lawyer, it can't hurt more than a few hundred$.

And yes, it's difficult/impossible to defend some accusations (have you considered a cash settlement to make it go away?)

You may want to consider "sheltering" your assets. A Vegas trip where you come home with gold bars to stash and all you "remember" is walking into the casino with your life savings in cash in your pocket...

Best of luck
THREE LAWS OF TYRANNY
(Could be read as "Three Laws of Bullying" ? )

Tyranny Law #1:
"Any power that can be abused will be abused."

Tyranny Law #2:
"Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it."

Tyranny Law #3:
"If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail."
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all decent people should just GTFO out of america if they are able...
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Unfortunately, I must agree with you. My present reality is such that getting out is simply not an option, I must fight for my freedom and my reputation and the instant I go anywhere which I do not have pre arranged permission to go, I will be arrested. This was part of the bail reduction agreement between myself and the state, as there is no way I could have afforded the original bond and my life was literally at stake while in jail.

To be honest, I don't blame the convicts for wanting to kill me because they knew my charge, they had no way of realizing my innocence. One thing I learned during my three weeks on jail is that almost all of the criminals there were trying to drown out the memories of their own abuse as children with drugs, and in the process placing themselves in the jaws of the legal beast that is the American criminal justice system with drug charges and connected crimes that involve procuring money for drugs..

....but the people who put me there in the first place and made sure the other prisoners knew my charge, I believe they are guilty of intentionally torturing me to obtain a plea bargain agreement in a case they know is invalid.
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
Consult with a second lawyer, it can't hurt more than a few hundred$.

And yes, it's difficult/impossible to defend some accusations (have you considered a cash settlement to make it go away?)

You may want to consider "sheltering" your assets. A Vegas trip where you come home with gold bars to stash and all you "remember" is walking into the casino with your life savings in cash in your pocket...

Best of luck
 Quoting: Lemon


I have already had to spend every dime I had in savings and I'm not even indicted. And I am sure that a 'cash settlement' would have made the accuser leave me alone, but unfortunately the charge has already been filed.
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
understand this can happen to anybody at any time, someone pernicious rotter decides to bollox up the rest of your life for whatever reason, although money works well enough as one.
So they must prioritize and they choose those that would otherwise offer the best potential of claiming sovereignty for themselves and their property.
Notice that only the subversives get the free lawyers of any capacity.
People should realize that anyone can initiate destruction of anothers life for naught more than a willing accomplice among any number of officers of the court and a small filing fee. And even if you finally win, you still lose in most cases.
Sometimes the final effects of this intentionally .malicious misadventure claims victims at later dates
This is why some go to extremes and do a revenge move and end up a suicide by cop, and of course that news disappears withing minutes just so nobody else in the same situation gets ideas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have a strong desire to live and consider myself having a lot to live for and fight for. My health is poor and I am probably not going to live more than a few more years, and my greatest fear is dying with the shame of a horrible accusation hanging over my head and dishonoring my family and memory. I have many friends and family who love me and I enjoy life much more than most.



The alleged victim is one of those described above that loves me, and I could never have contempt in my heart for this person as I know they have been somehow tricked or coerced into agreeing with the scheme.
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
Remember the last line of the Pledge of Allegience:

... with liberty and justice for all who can afford it.

sorry to hear this - I've seen many professionals at work fall victem to a newly hired 20 somthing who wants to play "Lawsuite Lottery" - you have been screwed at a whole new level.

best wishes & peace.

(& the biblical final judge has the last say...)
THREE LAWS OF TYRANNY
(Could be read as "Three Laws of Bullying" ? )

Tyranny Law #1:
"Any power that can be abused will be abused."

Tyranny Law #2:
"Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it."

Tyranny Law #3:
"If people don't resist the abuses of others, they will have no one to resist the abuses of themselves, and tyranny will prevail."
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
understand this can happen to anybody at any time, someone pernicious rotter decides to bollox up the rest of your life for whatever reason, although money works well enough as one.
So they must prioritize and they choose those that would otherwise offer the best potential of claiming sovereignty for themselves and their property.
Notice that only the subversives get the free lawyers of any capacity.
People should realize that anyone can initiate destruction of anothers life for naught more than a willing accomplice among any number of officers of the court and a small filing fee. And even if you finally win, you still lose in most cases.
Sometimes the final effects of this intentionally .malicious misadventure claims victims at later dates
This is why some go to extremes and do a revenge move and end up a suicide by cop, and of course that news disappears withing minutes just so nobody else in the same situation gets ideas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1310640


I have a strong desire to live and consider myself having a lot to live for and fight for. My health is poor and I am probably not going to live more than a few more years, and my greatest fear is dying with the shame of a horrible accusation hanging over my head and dishonoring my family and memory. I have many friends and family who love me and I enjoy life much more than most.



The alleged victim is one of those described above that loves me, and I could never have contempt in my heart for this person as I know they have been somehow tricked or coerced into agreeing with the scheme.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1415631


Just saying, the future is an unknown. I being confronted by even less a villain had hoped that by going with the flow and being nice and accomodating that in some future time could be rewound and good intents would heal wounds and a full repair could be made. Sadly some kinds of wounds only grow larger with time, not smaller.
For me, the body count would come much later, and not by the hand I stayed, and in retrospect, perhaps it was not the best decision.
Your situation being the case, prepare for a likely parental alienation syndrome and its sequelae, if it is a close association that will be recklessly broken, do your best in determining whether a young mind is best nurtured by a viper. Sometimes what is intentionally damaged regarding the soul will not be patched up with any ease.
In any respect you dont wanna do the joint as a short eyes as that may well be a death sentence.
Best regards
Hopefully yours will do better than mine did.
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pretty sure OPie has no clue what the word "infamous" means

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all decent people should just GTFO out of america if they are able...
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It's NOT just America. This is happening everywhere.
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pretty sure OPie has no clue what the word "infamous" means

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Maybe not worded correctly. But he knows the meaning...


3. Law
a. Punishable by severe measures, such as death, long imprisonment, or loss of civil rights.
b. Convicted of a crime, such as treason or felony, that carries such a punishment.
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Welcome to the New America..... GUILTY till proven innocent
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
I believe you.
When I had my AWAKENING and experience with injustice and the “law” it caused me to learn that there really was very little if any justice in this world.

Regardless what they teach about it in school, its basically fake, and the justice systems seems to be primarily controlled and run by a criminal ‘elite’ who have it rigged in their favor.

Just do your best to get yourself through it.
And eventually this nightmare will pass.

What I did to learn about real justice and truth, was to throw myself totally into serious spiritual study, which I will happily continue for the rest of my life.

And so my experience with injustice turned into a blessing for me because it actually caused me to study and learn about real important things which I would never have learned if I did not go through what was first perceived as a truly terrible experience.

I also learned that we are all powerful spiritual beings.
And one of the most important and powerful things we can do for another is to bless them.

And I certainly send a blessing to you.
And hope you can turn your situation into a blessing for yourself also.


..............
 Quoting: T of G 3930664


I sincerely appreciate that sentiment.
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Re: Falsely accused of infamous crime against nature: How do you defend yourself,
The TWO basic questions - the horrible TRUTH about ** YOU **

Doping conspiracy and WW3 - WHY nobody poses the TWO basic questions - the horrible TRUTH about YOU

The first question
Still the majority refuse to admit how mass media works, i.e that it is nothing but a brainwash tool, propagating the agendas of the serial liars who control it.
This brainwash is the main reason why in the meantime nearly everyone lost the the sense of justice.
It is thus no miracle that nobody poses himself the first question: why doesn't the media give to the accused the possibility to express themselves?

The second question
But in the meantime the large majority understood that the present and previous government parties (SPD, CDU, FDP, the Green) are serial liars.
The reason why everyone swallows the Doping Conspiracy begins by the fact that nevertheless nobody poses the second question: why do those who so far told nothing but lies suddenly mutate into the champions of truth? (1)

Remarks
(1) An example: Rudof Scharping, president of the German Cycling Federation.
Exactly, the same one who officially assumed the responsibility for the script around the "massacre" of Racak in Kosovo, the lie used to start World War III, in February/March 1999.
A lie which afterwards was even revealed by the conspirators at prime time on their state television. To terrorize the people who had previously swallowed that lie.
Google knows it - see result #1 of “It began with a lie” (3) (Es begann mit einer Lüge):
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(2) Doping conspiracy - [link to mb.trackandfieldnews.com] explained 2004

(3) “it began with a lie” - result #1 today, is the correct:
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