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Isn't the "Occupy" protests a Worldwide Communist Revolution??

 
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Re: Isn't the "Occupy" protests a Worldwide Communist Revolution??
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anarchist communists support communism as a means for ensuring the greatest freedom and well-being for everyone, rather than only the wealthy and powerful...

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I personally don't see how anarchy and communism would work together.

Anarchy, by definition, is against any central government or group of people using force to control a given population.

A commune of people always has some form of hierarchy where the dominate personalities use "consensus" to force their will on the collective.

I don't think anarchy and communism could ever co-exist. It would be easier for democracy and communism to exist together, because they both rely on a central government to operate.

Remember, communism is an economic theory that requires a strong central government.

Anarchy is the absence of a central government.
 Quoting: Shingen

Stateless communism:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is the end goal of Marxism.

I don't agree that a hierarchy always has to form by dominating personalities. I believe dominating personalities is a byproduct of the current system.
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Re: Isn't the "Occupy" protests a Worldwide Communist Revolution??
The movement has and is being funded and fomented by international socialists/Marxists.

Most of the protesters themselves are just useless idiots.
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Are they useful or useless? I know what you mean by useful. What do you mean by useless? That they don't become a slave to make someone else born into money more rich for a pittance? Let me guess, you don't like their hair style. They are not in uniform as you prefer, mr. anti-communist?
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They are all useless, IMO. I already edited my first post to reflect that. What I mean by "useless" is that they contribute nothing of value to society.
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Actually they do provide something. They provide you with entertainment. The same way a beggar with a sign on the offramp actually works for your handout. He makes you feel good.
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Re: Isn't the "Occupy" protests a Worldwide Communist Revolution??
And I would also argue that there are a lot of people who have jobs who don't contribute anything to society.
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I don't agree that a hierarchy always has to form by dominating personalities. I believe dominating personalities is a byproduct of the current system.
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That's because you're a moron. Dominant Alphas exist in every Mammalian species on the planet.
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I don't agree that a hierarchy always has to form by dominating personalities. I believe dominating personalities is a byproduct of the current system.
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That's because you're a moron. Dominant Alphas exist in every Mammalian species on the planet.
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Oh I see. You're one of those guys. You are those guys who have to let everyone know there's bad guys out there so we NEED to have a hierarchy, right? Perhaps you know deep down that it would be you who would be the bad guy if the hierarchy is gone.
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They are all useless, IMO. I already edited my first post to reflect that. What I mean by "useless" is that they contribute nothing of value to society.
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Actually they do provide something. They provide you with entertainment. The same way a beggar with a sign on the offramp actually works for your handout. He makes you feel good.


You couldn't be more wrong.
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Re: Isn't the "Occupy" protests a Worldwide Communist Revolution??
Stateless communism:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is the end goal of Marxism.

I don't agree that a hierarchy always has to form by dominating personalities. I believe dominating personalities is a byproduct of the current system.
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Yeah.. that's another theory. They are all theories.

I'm not a Marxists. I don't think individual freedom is possible without private property.

The stateless society I'm all for, but Marxism and the communist manifesto are alive and well in the current U.S. government and that doesn't seem to working all that great for the average individual.
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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I don't agree that a hierarchy always has to form by dominating personalities. I believe dominating personalities is a byproduct of the current system.
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That's because you're a moron. Dominant Alphas exist in every Mammalian species on the planet.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin

Oh I see. You're one of those guys. You are those guys who have to let everyone know there's bad guys out there so we NEED to have a hierarchy, right? Perhaps you know deep down that it would be you who would be the bad guy if the hierarchy is gone.
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I didn't say anything about needing hierarchy. Hierarchy is simply the natural order of things. Hierarchy exists and will ALWAYS exist. Get used to it, Wallflower.

You already accept some form of hierarchy by believing in 'good guys' and 'bad guys'.

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The movement has and is being funded and fomented by international socialists/Marxists.

Most of the protesters themselves are just useless idiots.
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^true dat^
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I don't agree that a hierarchy always has to form by dominating personalities. I believe dominating personalities is a byproduct of the current system.
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That's because you're a moron. Dominant Alphas exist in every Mammalian species on the planet.
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Oh I see. You're one of those guys. You are those guys who have to let everyone know there's bad guys out there so we NEED to have a hierarchy, right? Perhaps you know deep down that it would be you who would be the bad guy if the hierarchy is gone.
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I didn't say anything about needing hierarchy. Hierarchy is simply the natural order of things. Hierarchy exists and will ALWAYS exist. Get used to it, Wallflower.

You already accept some form of hierarchy by believing in 'good guys' and 'bad guys'.
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What's with the wallflower shit retard? I've had more wives than you've had girlfriends.
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That's because you're a moron. Dominant Alphas exist in every Mammalian species on the planet.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin

Oh I see. You're one of those guys. You are those guys who have to let everyone know there's bad guys out there so we NEED to have a hierarchy, right? Perhaps you know deep down that it would be you who would be the bad guy if the hierarchy is gone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298967


I didn't say anything about needing hierarchy. Hierarchy is simply the natural order of things. Hierarchy exists and will ALWAYS exist. Get used to it, Wallflower.

You already accept some form of hierarchy by believing in 'good guys' and 'bad guys'.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin

What's with the wallflower shit retard? I've had more wives than you've had girlfriends.
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and i don't mean i was married to them.
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Re: Isn't the "Occupy" protests a Worldwide Communist Revolution??
We've been a Communist/Fascist country for 100 years now, ever since the central bank/income tax pillars of Marxism were fulfilled.

They have dominated our political process for a century through infiltration and control of the money. They have intentionally weakened, corrupted, and perverted the system from within so the whole thing could be overthrown in this worldwide revolution that's unfolding now.
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Re: Isn't the "Occupy" protests a Worldwide Communist Revolution??
Stateless communism:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It is the end goal of Marxism.

I don't agree that a hierarchy always has to form by dominating personalities. I believe dominating personalities is a byproduct of the current system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298967


Yeah.. that's another theory. They are all theories.

I'm not a Marxists. I don't think individual freedom is possible without private property.

The stateless society I'm all for, but Marxism and the communist manifesto are alive and well in the current U.S. government and that doesn't seem to working all that great for the average individual.
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I'm not saying I'm up for any of it. I'm just up for discussing it in a rational civil way without resorting to name calling like mr alpha male wannabe over here.
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I'm not saying I'm up for any of it. I'm just up for discussing it in a rational civil way without resorting to name calling like mr alpha male wannabe over here.
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eh.. that's the "entertainment" part of the Lunatic Fringe.

Every asylum has it's bullies!

I never take them personally. They are mainly good for a belly laugh!

Last Edited by Shingen on 10/25/2011 02:41 AM
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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A commune of people always has some form of hierarchy where the dominate personalities use "consensus" to force their will on the collective.

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My experience with 'concensus" decision making was that if you didn't go along with the dominant personalities they just formed a smaller group and "consensed" to kick you out.
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What's with the wallflower shit retard? I've had more wives than you've had girlfriends.
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and i don't mean i was married to them.


Of course you have, Waldo.

Does that put you higher up the social ladder than me? Make you more dominant, Frances?
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I'm not saying I'm up for any of it. I'm just up for discussing it in a rational civil way without resorting to name calling like mr alpha male wannabe over here.
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eh.. that's the "entertainment" part of the Lunatic Fringe.

Every asylum has it's bullies!

I never take them personally. They are mainly good for a belly laugh!
 Quoting: Shingen


That is their job. Their job is always to point out that the heirarchy of force is always necessary because there will always be an asshole around (and so they play the role). It's obvious and pathetic. Like I said, deep down they know THEY would be the disruptive ones.
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What's with the wallflower shit retard? I've had more wives than you've had girlfriends.
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and i don't mean i was married to them.
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Of course you have, Waldo.

Does that put you higher up the social ladder than me? Make you more dominant, Frances?

Within the current system where your wallflower adhominem holds basic connotation, yes it does. Anything else?
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anything else genius?
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What's with the wallflower shit retard? I've had more wives than you've had girlfriends.

and i don't mean i was married to them.


Of course you have, Waldo.

Does that put you higher up the social ladder than me? Make you more dominant, Frances?

Within the current system where your wallflower adhominem holds basic connotation, yes it does. Anything else?
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Just so we agree that you are perfectly happy with hierarchy when it suits you...

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A commune of people always has some form of hierarchy where the dominate personalities use "consensus" to force their will on the collective.

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My experience with 'concensus" decision making was that if you didn't go along with the dominant personalities they just formed a smaller group and "consensed" to kick you out.
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That would work for me as long as they didn't try to disarm me and then demand the "authority" to put a gun to my head and force me to remain part of the "collective".
"Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey

"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner

"If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly
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Anarchist vs statist.

Same war, different generation.
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a very smart person.
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Just so we agree that you are perfectly happy with hierarchy when it suits you...
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You still want to go at it with me, eh? ok.

Who said I was happy with having to play the game you subscribe to.
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Just so we agree that you are perfectly happy with hierarchy when it suits you...
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You still want to go at it with me, eh? ok.

Who said I was happy with having to play the game you subscribe to.
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You're playing it.

You could show your displeasure by refusing to participate, since you didn't get to make the rules. Kinda like the dipshits who are shitting in Zucotti Park and refusing to bathe.
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pfft- they are less than 1% of the population.
when you see hundreds of thousands assembled then it means something.
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Just so we agree that you are perfectly happy with hierarchy when it suits you...
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You still want to go at it with me, eh? ok.

Who said I was happy with having to play the game you subscribe to.
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You're playing it.

You could show your displeasure by refusing to participate, since you didn't get to make the rules. Kinda like the dipshits who are shitting in Zucotti Park and refusing to bathe.
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I could have, but I chose to engage your disruptive tactic instead.
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Just so we agree that you are perfectly happy with hierarchy when it suits you...
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You still want to go at it with me, eh? ok.

Who said I was happy with having to play the game you subscribe to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298967


You're playing it.

You could show your displeasure by refusing to participate, since you didn't get to make the rules. Kinda like the dipshits who are shitting in Zucotti Park and refusing to bathe.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin

I could have, but I chose to engage your disruptive tactic instead.
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Disagreeing with The Borg is now a 'disruptive tactic'.
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You still want to go at it with me, eh? ok.

Who said I was happy with having to play the game you subscribe to.
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You're playing it.

You could show your displeasure by refusing to participate, since you didn't get to make the rules. Kinda like the dipshits who are shitting in Zucotti Park and refusing to bathe.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin

I could have, but I chose to engage your disruptive tactic instead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298967


Disagreeing with The Borg is now a 'disruptive tactic'.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Perhaps I should've just DownTwinkled you, but you're right. I'm an agressive, dominant, Alpha type. Always will be.

Twinkles for me.

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You still want to go at it with me, eh? ok.

Who said I was happy with having to play the game you subscribe to.
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You're playing it.

You could show your displeasure by refusing to participate, since you didn't get to make the rules. Kinda like the dipshits who are shitting in Zucotti Park and refusing to bathe.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin

I could have, but I chose to engage your disruptive tactic instead.
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Disagreeing with The Borg is now a 'disruptive tactic'.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin

No, calling me a moron and a wallflower as a way of showing the alpha male dominance factor will always make hierarchical force a necessary IS. That's what little bully children do on the playground. Intimidate and call names.
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You're playing it.

You could show your displeasure by refusing to participate, since you didn't get to make the rules. Kinda like the dipshits who are shitting in Zucotti Park and refusing to bathe.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin

I could have, but I chose to engage your disruptive tactic instead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1298967


Disagreeing with The Borg is now a 'disruptive tactic'.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Perhaps I should've just DownTwinkled you, but you're right. I'm an agressive, dominant, Alpha type. Always will be.

Twinkles for me.
 Quoting: Evil_Twin


Good luck with that.

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