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THE CROSSHOUSE AT MIRINGA TE KAKARA…AN ANCIENT NEW ZEALAND TEMPLE.

[link to www.celticnz.co.nz]

The building, initiated by King Tawhiao's directive to Chieftainess Ngaharakeke, is said to have been completed in about 1865. Bishop Thomas Herangi, guardian of the Crosshouse up until the 1980's, cited evidence of the star temple having been built in 1682, with renovations occurring in 1788 & 1887.

The main interest in this building must lie in its geometric and measurement attributes, which code astronomical and navigational knowledge found from Egypt to Great Britain and North America.
The key to extracting the international parcel of codes lies in an understanding of the common measurement standard being used internationally by an ancient, highly mobilised migrating group, who set up colonies all over the globe. Many of these colonies appear to have begun as metal ore mining operations.
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WAIPOUA FOREST STRUCTURES.

The following photos of dilapidated structures were taken on 11th November 2000. These are a few examples of registered structures, designated as purpose built by archaeologists, which were mapped by position, described and recorded for posterity. The information derived was considered so sensitive that it was then labelled "restricted" and not to be viewed by the general public until the year 2063.

Figure 6: Boundary boulders fence off a central cairn heap. It's very probable that the cairn was once a "Beehive House" hovel dwelling, but is now collapsed into an irregular pile. Many hundreds of cairns lie amidst the trees of the Waipoua Forest and many thousands more are found throughout other vast forested regions of New Zealand. The stone hovel dome dwelling was a common form of domicile in Megalithic Great Britain and Continental Europe and the selfsame building method was most certainly utilised by New Zealand's pre-Maori "Stone People".
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The book, Ancient Celtic New Zealand, featured an official archival document, which clearly showed an intention, by New Zealand Government Departments, to withhold archaeological information from the public for a period of 75 years.
Since publication of the book, many indignant people have written to the National Archives for an explanation as to why such an embargo had been put in place. They have questioned the legality of such imposed restrictions and have contacted their Members of Parliament to force a release of any information still being withheld.
This author and others, simply wish to inform the public that, in New Zealand, archaeological information, artefacts and skeletal evidence can be deemed secret, with knowledge deliberately withheld in the perceived interests of government policy.
Whether or not the fullness of embargoed information from the Waipoua Forest Archaeological dig has finally found its way to the public, is now considered irrelevant. What is important to realise is that certain information, which could rewrite regional history overnight, will continue to be withheld if officials are not caught out and forced to release at least a % of the material.

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THE WAITAPU, DUAL CIRCLE STANDING STONE OBSERVATORY.
Throughout the ancient world, in many climes, one of the most common ways of preserving the profound astronomical, navigational and calendar knowledge was to encrypt it into the dimensions of temples and significant community buildings…or into the positions of standing stones.

In 1997 I took my building site surveying equipment to the Waitapu Standing Stone Observatory in Northland, New Zealand and initially spent two weeks recording the positions of the fallen stones. I'd started out assuming that a particularly large sharksfin shaped stone was a hubstone and that lines emanated out from it like spokes. After a few days of trying to take theodolite fixes from that position, I had to abandon it, scrap my field notes and start again. The chosen hub almost worked, but not quite and I came to find out that the true southern hub was a large squat, wide based boulder only 7-feet SSE of the initially chosen stone. From the moment I set the theodolite up at the correct position it became apparent that everything was beginning to gel and make proper sense for the first time.

Between 1997 to 1999 I was to make many return trips to the valley, where I lived in my camper van and devoted my time to recording the positions of additional stone components on the observatory site. The information from my field notes was later entered into AutoCAD and the positions of all recorded stones were precisely plotted. I also categorised the stones into 6 groupings depending on size and shape, as well as noting the direction in which the stones lay in the long grass.
Despite fixing the positions of about 700 component stones over the years, the task was never fully completed as many large stones, residing at downhill positions to the east or south, lay in thick bracken and overgrowth. These peripheral markers were very difficult to get a fix on, without cutting back and clearing foliage.
Inasmuch as the land was administered by the New Zealand Department of Conservation, I had no authority to interfere with plant regeneration and so was obliged to miss those positions in my surveys.

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Interesting, I never heard of ancient stone remains in NZ, will keep on the lookout for more about this. Thanks!
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ANCIENT NEW ZEALAND SURVEYORS & ASTRONOMERS
In 2002 a resident of Hillsborough Auckland, Mr. Eric Lowe told me about entries in the diary his great grandfather who, during the late 1800’s, had worked as a New Zealand Government surveyor with such notables as Percy Smith. The grandfather had recorded words to the effect that, wherever he went to set up triangulation markers on the prominent hills, he could see the purpose-placed marker-stones of more ancient surveyors who had preceded him.

Similarly, in a very stimulating conversation with a learned Maori kaumatua-historian, he recounted an oral tradition passed down within his family that spoke of his ancestors arriving in New Zealand from India in 700 AD*. Upon making landfall, his ancestors encountered a well-established civilisation that they called "The Surveyors" ... because of their preoccupation with marking the landscape for overland surveying purposes. Although I was aware of many other names or terms used to describe the earlier civilisation (such as "The Stonebuilders") this was the first time I had heard of them being called, specifically, "The Surveyors" in the Maori oral histories.

*Footnote: Although our social-archaeologist and politically-aligned academics try to convince us that "there were no signs of human impacts upon the New Zealand landscape until about 1250-1300 AD", this "politically-correct" edict contradicts both the Maori oral traditions and the copious assortment of skeletal, artefact or landscape structural evidence, etc. In yet another criminal-cover-up of true New Zealand history and archaeology-anthropology, the remains of 53 very anomalous, ancient skeletons, held by Canterbury Museum (that have never been allowed to be properly studied or analysed by modern forensic methodology), will be "destroyed" on the 16th of April 2009. See: [link to www.wairaubarmystery.co.nz]

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Interesting, I never heard of ancient stone remains in NZ, will keep on the lookout for more about this. Thanks!
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Glad you like it, i have much, much more to share on this thread...
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Godzone bump
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Well, it was until they dumped a shitload of oil and chemicals in the middle of a marine and wildlife reserve/ breeding ground..

Thread: TAURANGA,NEW ZEALAND, HAS BEEN POISONED WITH COREXIT... RENA -GROUNDING and OIL SPILL TAURANGA,NEW ZEALAND


Thank you for appreciating the thread, it will be an ongoing one.
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EASTER ISLAND - ANCIENT GATEWAY TO THE PACIFIC

ANOTHER HUGE, OPEN AIR UNIVERSITY FOR TEACHING PRINCIPLES OF NAVIGATION & CYCLIC ASTRONOMY

There have been centuries of speculation related to the purpose and function of the giant moai statues of Easter Island, arrayed as they are in lines on ahu platforms around the entire coastline or placed as individual, stand-alone monuments at multiple inland locations. In total, the number of moai approaches about 1000, with yet more being discovered from time to time to add to the known dossier. Coupled with the many complete and standing, or fallen and often broken statues, are many other kinds of surveying-related markers. These include large and hefty, incised or shaped stone obelisks and boulders, fabricated in a wide variety of designs. There are also purpose-built mounds and cairn structures, as well as cut plateaus on modified hill tops, where a series of incoming survey lines converge then resolve to one common point.

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TO THE FAR ISLES AT THE VERY ENDS OF THE EARTH.

It is evident that Viking ships, amongst many others from the ancient Mediterranean, Continental European seaboard and Britain, sailed successfully to the Antipodean Isles of New Zealand at the very ends of the Earth in antiquity. If these early mariners could reach such a remote place, the most distant habitable country in the world from Europe, then every other part of the globe lay within their reach.

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THE ANCIENT SURVEYING STRUCTURES ON THE BOMBAY HILLS.

Since the southern motorway extension was completed in the early 1990's, countless numbers of New Zealanders have driven blithely by a large cluster of boulders in a farm field, unaware of the significance of what they're getting a fleeting glimpse of.

In June 2005, however, English antiquarian, Stuart Mason decided to stop and have a closer look, so took the motorway turnoff, parked his car and walked back along the fence-line to view the huge boulders. He and Emily were surprised to see very intricate and beautiful bas relief incising on the side of the largest boulder. They later (June 12th) told me of their find and showed me a few photos they'd taken. Obviously there was more to this grouping of large boulders than the average heedless, passing motorist was ever likely to contemplate, unless they'd had considerable experience with megalithic sites, like Stuart and Emily. I decided to head out and have a close look myself, but was thoroughly engrossed in writing a book at the time, so filed the intention away in the "things to do urgently" pile.

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Thanks for posting OP. Polynesian history has always been a few chapters short of the truth in my reckoning. I hope info like this begins to shine some light on the distant past.

How much of the Maori culture originated from Hawaii or was it always distinctly separate?
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Thanks for posting OP. Polynesian history has always been a few chapters short of the truth in my reckoning. I hope info like this begins to shine some light on the distant past.

How much of the Maori culture originated from Hawaii or was it always distinctly separate?
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Hello,

The story goes that the 'waitaha nation' came to NZ around about the time of jesus, from their homeland of Easter island..
(There were others here long before them though)
Check them out..

[link to www.waitaha.org.nz]

We are Waitaha

We are Waitaha. We are the water containers of the Creator, therefore we have been imbued with the many forms of waters containing the many gifts of all that is in the Universe.

It is spoken now as it has been in our distant past. We are always here in the Universe. For there were many water containers of many forms, of many nations. We follow Rongomaraeroa the Goddess of Peace. Waitaha is older than old.
Until now we have hidden our beginnings and all that followed, in the shadows. In this way we protected our knowledge in the silence of the schools of learning. Tuatara is the keeper of knowledge. We lead you past our ever vigilant caretaker and invite you to share the words and wisdom of our ancestors. For it has been decided it is time for our treasures to be brought into the World of Light. Haere mai, nau mai.
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MEGALITHIC NEW ZEALAND

The people of Great Britain have long cherished an inheritance of "standing stone circles", dotting their landscape from the cold northern reaches of Scotland to the warm plains of Southern England. This enduring legacy in eternal stone is of such great age that little can be recalled regarding the ancient purpose of the stones themselves or those who, at some remote epoch, laboured so diligently to place them.

Whereas standing stone circles were once viewed as something unique to Great Britain, France or, to a lesser-known extent, countries further east in Continental Europe, they are now being located in many scattered regions of the greater world, including Egypt.

It is becoming increasingly evident that about 5,000 years ago, people in many climes and at many latitudes of the globe seemed preoccupied with the measurement of time and that standing stone circles somehow catered to this need.

One of the most remote countries where standing stone circles and other types of megalithic structures are being found in profusion is New Zealand, at the sub-tropical base of the South Pacific.

These out of time and place, anomalous finds are causing many researchers to rethink the supposed, "young" history of the country.

[link to www.celticnz.co.nz]
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I have got to find a way to come visit New Zealand.... awesome
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WHAKAHORO

On the evening of March 19th 2010 many New Zealanders settled in to watch a popular TV show called Country Calendar. It featured the hard-slog activities of a tough young central North Island farmer named Dan Steele and chronicled his imaginative, innovative efforts to turn his central North Island farm into a profitable enterprise.

Whereas Dan admitted that the land was, by and large, unsuitable for farming and should never have been broken in for that purpose, he had found that the remote location offered plenty of other business opportunities. It had great scenic beauty, within an exquisite confluence of rugged high hills and serene valleys, through which multiple major rivers or small tributaries flowed. There was ample scope to see rare species of native fauna and flora, which had all but disappeared from other centres around New Zealand. This steep and difficult hinterland gave visitors a real glimpse of what much of New Zealand used to be like as untamed wilderness.

Dan had found that there was ample tourist potential amidst the rugged beauty of his remote, back-of-beyond farm and built several valley lodges for hunters, backpackers and nature-lovers. As a part of ongoing development, he envisioned that his farm also needed a high country lodge offering stunning views out to the three majestic volcano's of the central plateau eastwards or Mt. Taranaki to the West. During the filming sequence for Country Calendar he took the interviewer to this highest point of his farm ... and then things started to get particularly interesting.

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THE CROSSHOUSE AT MIRINGA TE KAKARA…AN ANCIENT NEW ZEALAND TEMPLE.

[link to www.celticnz.co.nz]

The building, initiated by King Tawhiao's directive to Chieftainess Ngaharakeke, is said to have been completed in about 1865. Bishop Thomas Herangi, guardian of the Crosshouse up until the 1980's, cited evidence of the star temple having been built in 1682, with renovations occurring in 1788 & 1887.

The main interest in this building must lie in its geometric and measurement attributes, which code astronomical and navigational knowledge found from Egypt to Great Britain and North America.
The key to extracting the international parcel of codes lies in an understanding of the common measurement standard being used internationally by an ancient, highly mobilised migrating group, who set up colonies all over the globe. Many of these colonies appear to have begun as metal ore mining operations.
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Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… anonimalle

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I have got to find a way to come visit New Zealand.... awesome
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Yes, you must. Bring a daughter or 2...
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Godzone bump
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Well, it was until they dumped a shitload of oil and chemicals in the middle of a marine and wildlife reserve/ breeding ground..

Thread: TAURANGA,NEW ZEALAND, HAS BEEN POISONED WITH COREXIT... RENA -GROUNDING and OIL SPILL TAURANGA,NEW ZEALAND


Thank you for appreciating the thread, it will be an ongoing one.
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Yeah, read about that.

Beautiful area.

Damn shame.
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New Zealanders will not rest, until every last bit of that crap is scraped off our coastal rocks.

Not much we can do about the poisoning of the reef, etc, though.

Thank you very much for caring so much, brother
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I have got to find a way to come visit New Zealand.... awesome
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Go if you can, it is to most beautiful place on Earth!
It's not for nothing that they call it: God's Own Country.

Great Post Tauranga
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Hi Tauranga, yes that cross house is interesting, connected to the southern cross as well.

So glad your here, we have very similar interest, ive been studying ancient NZ for awhile, have even discovered an ancient site up here were i live of great significance yet to be realized fully, ive been in contact with Martin Doutré and he confirmed for me, that there is a real possibility it is a ancient site of some sort.

Would like to hear you thoughts on this discovery, i found it dueing a luna elips.

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As I have said before and will say again, our history is wrong or to be more precise warped in obfuscation and dismissal. They are keeping the past from us for some reason. I think it's selfishness and power. Imagine you wake up one morning the leader of your country or even the Pope of the Catholic faith. You walk out and decide to say that the bible is based on Sumerian if not older civilizations lore and that we in the christian and muslim faith warped it to our point of view. There would be madness breaking out all over the world. They would say that the Pope went mad, they would say he's lying and must be moved from his position.

They can't go back and change because it would show that much of what we see or been told was on a basement of lies. And then if these ancient civilizations where right, what other things that are written from these civiliations might be right also. Is it right about the Sumerians coming from another planet? The fear of people knowing the truth is their quiet nightmare.
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Quote from Joseph Goebbels Hitlers propaganda man.
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Thread: OUR TRUE HISTORY - Graham Hancocks "QUEST FOR THE LOST CIVILIZATION" GREGG BRADEN and other amazing stuff...
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As I have said before and will say again, our history is wrong or to be more precise warped in obfuscation and dismissal. They are keeping the past from us for some reason. I think it's selfishness and power. Imagine you wake up one morning the leader of your country or even the Pope of the Catholic faith. You walk out and decide to say that the bible is based on Sumerian if not older civilizations lore and that we in the christian and muslim faith warped it to our point of view. There would be madness breaking out all over the world. They would say that the Pope went mad, they would say he's lying and must be moved from his position.

They can't go back and change because it would show that much of what we see or been told was on a basement of lies. And then if these ancient civilizations where right, what other things that are written from these civiliations might be right also. Is it right about the Sumerians coming from another planet? The fear of people knowing the truth is their quiet nightmare.
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Hello, some say the cover-up exists to stop us sheep from learning about our true birthrights and access to the divine and many other things, and so it it part of the control of tptb.

And also the pride and arrogance of the archaeological fraternity, who don't want to admit that they got it all wrong.

In NZ there is another very sensitive issue, in regard to the fact that maori land claim laws are based on maori being the first people in NZ.
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Well, it was until they dumped a shitload of oil and chemicals in the middle of a marine and wildlife reserve/ breeding ground..

Thread: TAURANGA,NEW ZEALAND, HAS BEEN POISONED WITH COREXIT... RENA -GROUNDING and OIL SPILL TAURANGA,NEW ZEALAND


Thank you for appreciating the thread, it will be an ongoing one.
 Quoting: Tauranga


Yeah, read about that.

Beautiful area.

Damn shame.
 Quoting: WalkersEverywhere


New Zealanders will not rest, until every last bit of that crap is scraped off our coastal rocks.

Not much we can do about the poisoning of the reef, etc, though.

Thank you very much for caring so much, brother
 Quoting: Tauranga


hf
 Quoting: WalkersEverywhere

hf
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I have got to find a way to come visit New Zealand.... awesome
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Go if you can, it is to most beautiful place on Earth!
It's not for nothing that they call it: God's Own Country.

Great Post Tauranga
 Quoting: Butterfly


Thank you butterflyhf
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Cool! Thank you

Maybe we need a kiwi music thread:

Thread: CHECK THIS OUT- 3 awesome ONLINE SONGS written by TAURANGA NEW ZEALAND artists, 'reggae and soul music' about the RENA OIL SPILL
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Had to pop by and see this thread too. It sure is beautiful there.

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