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MYSTERIES of ANCIENT NEW ZEALAND and THE PACIFIC

 
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Oops forgot to enter kolbrin text lol

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3rd time lucky?

Among the dark strangers who came to these hospitable shores were men from Greece, who, because they were exiled by their king, though for what we do not know, sought refuge in this bountiful land. They came in high-prowed craft, long-boarded, roofed over the centre, with many long-bladed oars thrust out through hide-bound rowing outlests. THe emblems they bore were the Red Eagle and Snake, and they called the far away place from whence they came Filistis, which means Fuddily-Hued land, so-called from the colour cast by a huge cloud through which their sun always shone. THey spoke a wildish babbling tongue, so difficult that unless spoken slowly could not be understood even among themselves.

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[link to www.mysteriousaustralia.com]

The Gympie Pyramid Mystery

-Natawah, Pharaoh of Australia?

Pyramids have always had a mystical hold on the mind of man. Why is this so? What is it about the pyramids that capture our imagination? They are to found from the desert sands of Egypt to the jungles of New Guinea and Australia, certain west Pacific Islands and Central America.

It puzzles me why worldwide attention seems permanently focussed upon the geometric dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Giza, and those of the old Amerindian civilisations, while those of the Australian-west Pacific region continue to attract little or no attention from conservative archaeology, both here and overseas.

It is because they are an embarrassing enigma, demonstrating that the earth was explored and mapped thousands of years before the age of Magellan or Cook? The most enigmatic of these relics stands outside the town of Gympie, in south-eastern Queensland.The "Gympie Pyramid" was more than just a ceremonial gathering-place and the centrepiece of probably the most important middle-east mining colony ever established in Australia.
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[link to www.mysteriousaustralia.com]

Hieroglyphs on the Hawkesbury

High up on the cliffs overlooking Brisbane Waters, near Gosford, on the Central Coast north of Sydney, about 1900, two bushwalkers chanced to enter a narrow cleft, formed by the splitting of a monolith sandstone rock in ages past. Engraved upon the walls to their amazement, they found a mass of clearly recognisable hieroglyphs.

In those times the Gosford district was still very much a gum and scrub covered wilderness, so it is little wonder that the inscriptions had remained hidden for so long. The cleft is on a roughly north-south axis, with some 480 hieroglyphs cut into the east and west rockfaces. Eight more glyphs were afterwards found by the men further north, engraved into a cliff side facing Brisbane Waters.

Few people knew of these remarkable engravings for generations, until land development bought nearby housing, and city council service roads close to the glyphs. By the 1970's the ''re-discovery' of the site saw a great many people visiting the inscriptions. Public interest in the glyphs led to speculation that ancient Egyptians had visited Australia.
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There are unsolved mysteries within the old histories of Waitaha. Issues that await further research that may be resolved with the aid of DNA analysis and other tools becoming available to science. One of these is the inclusion of three bloodlines in the whakapapa, the genealogies in the old lore — Maoriori — Urukehu — Kiritea.

It is clear that most Waitaha iwi were East Polynesian through and through and were Maoriori, but into that vast weave the Whare Wananga adds two slender threads. First The Urukehu, a pale-skinned, blue-eyed fair or red haired people, who had freckles and were the descendants of Kiwa. Secondly, the Kiritea of the golden skin, black-shining hair and dark, almond-shaped eyes with a double fold in the eyelid.

The Urukehu are said to have arrived out of the west. The Kiritea are said to have an Asian connection. In that regard Waitaha assert a relationship to Tibet.

When did Waitaha reach Aotearoa?

The Wananga records that Te Kupenga o Te Ao, who was born 77 generations ago, sailed from Easter Island to Aotearoa and then returned to that homeland. Such a long voyage would be made along a chain of islands with Rarotonga in the Cook Islands as the shore of final departure. If 25 years is allowed for each generation that means she reached Aotearoa some 1925 years ago. That predates the established history of settlement by some 1200 years. To add to the issue she records that there were already people here. Those earlier settlers are named and recorded in the old lore.

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Very true


Ra, that is, seriously weird. .

I just finished typing to Tassie, in an E-mail that we need to get onto OZ on this thread AND I mentioned Mysterious Australia as a place to start , wow talk about syncronicity..
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lol, i think that's a good thing, lets us know we on the right track :)

I found some connections between what the author has said and the kolbrin, which helps validates the information to some degree for me.

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[link to www.mysteriousaustralia.com]


Some of the symbols can be compared with Easter Island glyphs. Although some rough translations of the Blue Mountain glyphs have been attempted the symbols remain largely undecyphered, but it is Suspected they may relate to astronomical observations. The altars spread across a wide area of the Blue Mountains are carved in two recurring motifs, ie in the forms of eagles and serpents. Eagle and Serpent altar stones are to be found in Central and South America as well as ancient Egypt, where in both hemispheres these symbols were associated with sun worship.


Then on the first chapter I found this
[link to www.mysteriousaustralia.com]

One day in 1931 on a windswept sandhill, the remains of the shoreline a long-vanished lake about 100km south of the Murray River, at Glenloth, Victoria, John Gibbs, a 10 year old local boy, was playing in the shell grit of an ancient Aboriginal midden. In a basin of the sandhill amid the debris of broken shells, he picked up a large fragmenting football-size lump of petrified mud. Protruding from one of the fragments, he found a small bronze coin. Years later a Melbourne Museum numismatist would identify it as Greek, and that it had been minted in Egypt during the reign of the Greek Ptolemy Philometor the 6th in the 2nd century B.C.

There will be more to say about this coin in a future chapter. The suggestion as to how the coin turned up where it was found is of course that it had been left behind by ancient visitors; Greek explorers perhaps, or even Arabs, Indians or Malayans with whom the Greeks traded.


What i found interesting, is this text from the kolbrin in the Book of Origins, i posted this on an other thread awhile ago, so ill just copy and paste.
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With the Greek coin found in Australia, along with the serpent and eagle alters, its very possible there was a greek colony in the past in Australia too...

Then again the serpent and eagle is found in many places around the world even here in NZ, a universal system practice/truth?
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Many hued stone must mean multi faceted, a crystal of some kind..
The eagle and the serpent are interesting to me also.The Aztec decided upon the place of thier city after thier humingbird god told them to look for an eagle eating a serpent which they found eventually. But at the same time this is really all about kundalini(serpent energy) force raised up the spine and into the mind thus becoming the mind of light(the eagles mind)The eagle devours the serpent. Having this awakenned mind allows for communication with the gods and the technologies they teach for our benefit and the earths.
Take an orange peel, next to a flame squeeze it so that the peels acid sprays into the flame( very combustible).
How to get trick the serpent into coming up into the eagles grasp; The serpent is fed by creation energy and lives in the base of our spine coiled three times. It doesnt need to go anywhere while we release that energy. If we can resist feeding it for six weeks it will get hungry enough to rise up into our mind to look for a feed, thats when the eagle grabs it and devours it.Now the eagle has the food it needs to give us the mind of light. And the all seeing eye.
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I relate Eagle and serpent, to insight and wisdom. I think we can make the serpent rise without having to stave it out, but let it travel its natural course spiril wise up through the body, passing through the charkar points?. Exersises and tools already developed to bring it up, meditation, tai chi, yoga, ect. In relationship there could be an other serpent or energy spiriling down, from the eagle side of things? Intersting enough if there is a double spiril like that, they would meet somewhere in the middle, the heart?

The eagle wont eat the snake, as it will already be satisfied, and wont try to grab at the rising snake energy(once the mind has learnt to let go of ego?), instead leting it rise in order for it to go down to the source for unlimited food, and vice versa, both working together in a continuos cycle, rebirthing anew?. Reminds me of the lion and the lamb laying down together in peace(tau/balance), (and also sunpar :).

Am i being unrealistic here?, or does this make cents? I feel a need to question my logic?.


Across Southern England are the St.Michael and St. Mary energy lines that snake their course from one ancient circle to another. These are two separate separate and different, strong flows of natural energy that are easily detectabel by adept Dowsers. One type of energy flow is, traditionally, said to be a distinctly Male energy originating in the bathing rays of the Sun. The other is said to be a more subtle and gentle, Female energy, with marvellous rejuvenating and revitalising qualities. It is, traditionally, thought to come from the Moon and sems to gravitate toward water and the many ancient, sacred wells that dot the landscape.

Represtations of these dual snakes are found all over Europe, as elsewhere and a good example of such a depiction is on the "Angby Stone" found in Uppland, Sweeden. This stone also features the Maltese Cross, another symbol duplicated in the self-generating geometry of the Waitapu Observatory (see, Encyclopaedia Britannica, 15th Edition, Micropaedia section, pg. 369).

The flows and rivulets of male and female energy, identified in depth in the book, "The Sun and the Serpent", are said to cover the entirety of the globe and have a peculiar quality of snaking along, almost side by side, with frequent crossovers. The religious veneration and depiction of the two snakes, was widespread and seems to have originated in Egypt. It is found, equally, in pre/Celtic/Celtic and Egyptian artistic expression, as upon the forehead section of the funerary mask of Tutankhamun.

In Southern England, as elsewhere, the ancient circle sites suffered the indignity, all too often, of having Christian churches built over the tops of them. This organised and deliberate eradication of many ancient British sacred sites was first commissioned by Pope Gregory the 1st (circa 596 AD) who sent Augustine to establish Roman Christian domination of Britain. For 500 years, prior to that time, British Christians (Culdees) had respected and utilised the ancient circle sites and sanctuaries as places of worship. The St. Michael and St Mary energy lines now flow directly through many churches, most of which are, aptly, dedicated to either St.Michael or St Mary. The churches sit atop former Pagan (Druidic) circle sites (see The Sun and the Serpent, by Paul Broadhurst). The very adept and talented, Scottish Dowser who worked on that project was Hamish Miller.


Ancient Celtic New Zealnad- Martin Doutre


Eagle/moon/St Mary?

Serpent/sun/St Michael?
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Hiya Tauranga, I see many more connections, but i need to research it abit more to comfirm some things before i post them, what ive read so far is resonateing with me and i see things in there that helps connect some of the dots, quite exciting :)

hf
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following this thread;

last week I was in Gympie. I had not been there before. i pulled up and right next to me was the old gold mine. I felt i had been led here. Next day i was shown a copy of Mysterious australia and found the section which said Celts/pheonicians had settlements in Gympie and Lowood/Toowomba where I had just come from. Sometimes I feel the spirit connections from those people at different places i go or am led.Its very interesting.
Though I cant say I would accept the conjectures that are in that book a lot.
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following this thread;

last week I was in Gympie. I had not been there before. i pulled up and right next to me was the old gold mine. I felt i had been led here. Next day i was shown a copy of Mysterious australia and found the section which said Celts/pheonicians had settlements in Gympie and Lowood/Toowomba where I had just come from. Sometimes I feel the spirit connections from those people at different places i go or am led.Its very interesting.
Though I cant say I would accept the conjectures that are in that book a lot.
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Hiya angel man

Neat to hear from you

I love so much that feeling you are describing, of being led to places, and the feeling of 'knowing' that place
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Hi ya Angel man, Tauranga :)

Wow, I was meaning to ask if anyone has been or seen some of these ancient sites in oz.

Tauranga, I think it could be possible there are old mines near you, at the kangahapi gorge?

Reading the Gympie page, i found more similaritys here in NZ as well, regarding the Egyptian god Thoth connection.


The Gympie Pyramid Mystery



Remains of ancient open-cut gold and copper mining operations were uncovered outside Gympie and also the Murgon district further west. Large basalt adzes were found beside quartz reefs where they had been used to pound away at the gold-bearing quartz. At these sites were sometimes found various implements of copper and bronze, later identified as being of ancient middle-east origin.

Somewhere in these jungle covered hills a pre-European water-race built of massive stone blocks was discovered, but the location is now lost. These finds had long since passed into local folklore when, in 1966, farmer Dal.K.Berry {since deceased} ploughing his field one day unearthed the fragmented remains of a crude ironstone idol.

After cementing it together, he found it to be in the form of a 72cm high by 120cm round squatting ape. he also found that he had torn up sandstone blocks which had formed abase upon which the idol had stood. The idol thereafter remained stored away In Dal berry's shed, until oneday in 1975, he read a newspaper article concerning my theories of ancient culture-contacts with Australia. He subsequently wrote to me at our Katoomba, NSW home.

After making the trip to Gympie in October, 1975, Heather and I soon discovered the idol closely resembled middle east examples of the Egyptian god Thoth {inventor of writing} in ape form. Carved between the legs was the papyrus flower symbol, denoting Thoth as the god of writing and knowledge. Thoth was depicted as an ape prior to around 1000 BC, when he became an Ibis-headed, human-bodied entity, who recorded the judgement of the dead in Amenti, the afterworld.

[link to www.mysteriousaustralia.com]


BES OF EGYPT & TARANAICH-THOR OF EUROPE IN THE ANCIENT SOUTH PACIFIC.

Mount Taranaki was, without doubt, ancient New Zealand's foremost navigational beacon. As an active volcano on the western sea coastline facing Australia and Western Polynesia, it's smoky plume would have been visible for a great distance over the horizon. In line with similar belief systems amongst great civilisations, its imposing majesty would have invited religious veneration, in conjunction with the other volcanic peaks further inland.

"Tara" in Maori means apex, fin or spine.

The very ancient European tribes migrating all the way to Britain left a trail behind them of "Tara" derived names

In consideration of ancient Welsh/ Gaelic/ Breton/ Khumri variations on "Tara" we have the following:

"Taran" means "thunder" in Welsh/ Breton/ Khumri. The word "Tardd" would mean "breaking out".

"Tartar" means noise or clamour in Irish/ Gaelic.

Each of these descriptions in Welsh/ Khumri or Irish/ Gaelic migrated to Wales and Ireland via Scandinavia and Germany, where "Thor", meaning literally"thunder", was the pre-eminent Deity and created great thunder claps by crashing two rams heads together.

The Continental European Celts called their God, "Taranis" (the thunderer) and he bore that name in France and Spain amongst the Druids, as well as, seemingly, Celtic countries like Germany, Switzerland and Yugoslavia further east. The name Taranis derives from the Celtic (or Indo-European) root "Taran" meaning "thunderer or thunder" and he was associated with Jupiter.

Another variation on the name was "Taranucnus" or "Taranus"...used in Britain. Taranaich (which is very close in pronunciation to Taranaki) is the Scot/ Pict/ Gaelic god of thunder & lightning. His name was derived from the Gaelic word tarnach or tarna, ‘thunder’. His attribute was the spoked wheel. Taranis, Taran, Taranus, Taranucus, Taranucnus, Taranaich all relate to "Thunderer", the Celtic thunder god and ‘god of heaven’. His symbol was the spoked wheel and a stylized spiral representing lightning. The wheel was normally considered to be a sun symbol, but could also be associated with the thunder god's chariot rumbling across the sky.

The Celtic tribes, Turones, Turoni, Taurini, venerated the deity Taranucus/ Taranaich, which is not a tremendous departure from saying that the Turehu of ancient New Zealand lived in the foothills of Mt, Taranaki. A pre-Maori white tribe was called the Turehu.

The Maori name for the God of thunder and lightning is Tawhaki, which might explain how the second half of "Taran-aki" (aki) became predominant in the finalised nomenclature that described this God regionally..

According to the Roman poet Lucan, Taranis was appeased by burning (Bellum civile or Pharsalia I, 422-465).

This way of describing Mount Taranaki's name, which is the result of a more direct route of migration and influx of European cultural idiosyncrasies from Britain and Continental Europe to New Zealand, is very apt. It describes a thunder and lightning god (inseparable elements) that is appeased by fire. Again the god is associated with one of the great lights in the firmament (Jupiter). This name (Taranis/ Taranucus/ Taranaich) and description of the god's attributes fit the profile of "an active "VOLCANO".

The early beliefs of the Aryans, who migrated west into Europe, were retained in various regions of India and the Hindu God Indra is Taranis/ Taranaich.

The name "Taranaki" is found in the Waitakere Ranges of Northern New Zealand. Also, Wellington Harbour adjacent to New Zealand's capital city used to be called "Tara" as the Maori placename for the area. The ancient name "Tara" is used prolifically all over Ireland in many placenames.

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Hiya ra

Wow great posts thanks

Yes I believe that there are signs of a large ancient settlement at Karangahake
I think we talked about it at one stage

I believe I see the remains of huge megalithic structures there

And when you are exploring the colonial gold mining areas there the sense of ancient occupation is palpable
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Just mark this so I dont loose it again.

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Two Easter Island type stone heads have been recovered in Emerald in far north Queensland. Similar heads occur in the Whitsunday Passage off the north Queensland coast. Inca rites and beliefs have been recorded in Central Australia. An enormous Mayan-like stone head has been dug up near Cambelltown south of Sydney. All of which give credence to the abilities of these ancient peoples to span the Pacific in their ancient balsa wood rafts. Such evidence lead me to believe that Australia may hold the answers to many mysteries concerning human migration even before the dawn of recorded history.

[link to www.mysteriousaustralia.com]
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have a dig and see what you can post here, tassie

are there any signs of ancient habitation at Tasmania?
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great info!

keep up the good work guys

hf
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great info!

keep up the good work guys

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hiya xen!!!!

have you been to any ancient sacred sites in Oz?

or any areas with ancient remains?
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And when you are exploring the colonial gold mining areas there the sense of ancient occupation is palpable
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I got that sense too, quite relaxing/peacefull.....

great info!

keep up the good work guys

hf
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hf

Hi ya
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hiya xen!!!!

have you been to any ancient sacred sites in Oz?

or any areas with ancient remains?
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hi T.!

not disrespect to anyone but i feel every square inch on earth to be a sacred site

there are various types of vortices, some temporary, some permanent, some dormant, some partially active, some fully active

these can be "reached" from anywhere by feeling, energy and intent alone. distance matters not!

in the physical, i did some work a few years ago at a sacred site of the yorta yorta somewhere in the victorian bush in the middle of nowhere. cleared a lot of really dark energy working with the spirit of black elk. was horrible, virtually the entire tribe was barbarically slaughtered by the anglo-saxons when they arrived and they were still there...
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A Guy just made a comment on one of my youtube vids, Says it looks very similar structure to whats found at the stone city in Waipoua forest. He posted this up few days ago.....

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hf

Hi ya
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hi Ra

thanks for the great info you post :)

is it true that some of the older languages around NZ and polynesia have some ancient greek words in them?
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Hi ya
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hi Ra

thanks for the great info you post :)

is it true that some of the older languages around NZ and polynesia have some ancient greek words in them?
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Yes i think so, in the book "THE ARYAN MAORI" it talks about Maori language being closer to Ancient Aryan than even greek, thus the two are bound to be connected in some way.

Quoteing from the book


I now proceed to assert —
Positively,

1. That the Maori is an Aryan.

2. That his language and traditions prove him to

be the descendant of a pastoral people,
afterwards warlike and migratory.

3. That his language has preserved, in an almost

inconceivable purity, the speech of his
Aryan forefathers, and compared witb
which the Greek and Latin tongues are
mere corruptions.

[link to www.archive.org]
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Yes i think so, in the book "THE ARYAN MAORI" it talks about Maori language being closer to Ancient Aryan than even greek, thus the two are bound to be connected in some way.

Quoteing from the book


I now proceed to assert —
Positively,

1. That the Maori is an Aryan.

2. That his language and traditions prove him to

be the descendant of a pastoral people,
afterwards warlike and migratory.

3. That his language has preserved, in an almost

inconceivable purity, the speech of his
Aryan forefathers, and compared witb
which the Greek and Latin tongues are
mere corruptions.

[link to www.archive.org]
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cheers

i was referring to ancient greek (much different to modern greek), which was spoken during the golden age of 20,000bc to 12,500bc (ancient greece and japan were the catalysts/facilitators of this golden age). it was after the "great flood" that the knowledge of this age was spread throughout the world (including egypt) by high priests/priestesses and their brothers/sisters
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Xen

Yep I totally agree

I should have explained that I meant places where ancient people have lived and left evidence. .

And ancient people's would have chosen sites with high energy to settle..

But having said that, sometimes they would have settled near what they were mining. Especially true for OZ , because it's pretty obvious that large scale mining went on in your country in ancient times..
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A Guy just made a comment on one of my youtube vids, Says it looks very similar structure to whats found at the stone city in Waipoua forest. He posted this up few days ago.....


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Wow cool

Yeah that site you found is amazing,there is something unique about it, any ideas yet on what it might be ?

I think I saw some stone stacked walls at karangahake too last time I explored there
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Yes i think so, in the book "THE ARYAN MAORI" it talks about Maori language being closer to Ancient Aryan than even greek, thus the two are bound to be connected in some way.

Quoteing from the book


I now proceed to assert —
Positively,

1. That the Maori is an Aryan.

2. That his language and traditions prove him to

be the descendant of a pastoral people,
afterwards warlike and migratory.

3. That his language has preserved, in an almost

inconceivable purity, the speech of his
Aryan forefathers, and compared witb
which the Greek and Latin tongues are
mere corruptions.

[link to www.archive.org]
 Quoting: Ra 15911002


cheers

i was referring to ancient greek (much different to modern greek), which was spoken during the golden age of 20,000bc to 12,500bc (ancient greece and japan were the catalysts/facilitators of this golden age). it was after the "great flood" that the knowledge of this age was spread throughout the world (including egypt) by high priests/priestesses and their brothers/sisters
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Ok thanks xeno, very interesting do you have some links i could look at?

It seem inavertable that proceeding along our research, other areas around the world will become ralavent in relation to the south pacific/nz/oz, as there threads intertwine with the ancient past.

hf


According to the ancient Greek historian, Herodotus, the Phoenicians introduced their alphabet to Greece. Cadmus the Phoenician is attributed with the credit for this introduction. Further, Phoenician trade was the vessel which speeded the spread of this alphabet along side Phoenician trade which went to the far corners of the Mediterranean. Phoenician alphabet is the ancestor of the Greek alphabet and, hence, of all Western alphabets. The earliest Phoenician inscription that has survived is the Ahiram epitaph at Byblos in Phoenicia, dating from the 11th century BC and written in the North Semitic alphabet. The Phoenician alphabet gradually developed from this North Semitic prototype and was in use until about the 1st century BC in Phoenicia proper. Phoenician colonial scripts, variants of the mainland Phoenician alphabet, are classified as Cypro-Phoenician (10th-2nd century BC) and Sardinian (c. 9th century BC) varieties. A third variety of the colonial Phoenician script evolved into the Punic and neo-Punic alphabets of Carthage, which continued to be written until about the 3rd century AD. Punic was a monumental script and neo-Punic a cursive form.

There is considerable confusion these days concerning just who the seafaring Phoenicians were, inasmuch as they ranged from Byblos, Sidon & Tyre, in Lebanon (formerly Israel or Canaan) and that region has undergone multiple conquests and occupations since 750 BC. In the earliest years and through their "golden-age" of shipping goods around the Mediterranean or trading, mining and setting up colonial outposts far afield, the Phoenicians were Hebrews.

One of the great historical mistakes that is perpetuated today is to call the Hebrew people "Jewish". The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of people who today call themselves Jewish have no traceable ethnic links to the Hebrew-Phoenicians mother country and none to the Hebrew-Phoenicians themselves. Jewish people (over 92%) are ethnic Khazars (Ashkenazi) whose lands of origin were around the Ukraine of Russia (over a thousand miles northwards of Israel-Phoenicia). Prior to that the Khazars had migrated into Eastern Europe from Mongolia. They are a people who adopted the Babylonian Talmudic-Pharasee religion in the 8th century AD, around 1700-years after the Hebrew-Israelite-Phoenician "golden age".

The vast majority of Jewish people are not even of "Semitic" origin, but have only adopted one of the Semitic religions (a late era Babylonian-Pharassee form). Even the very small percentage of Sephardim-Babylonian-Jewish people (Sephardim means Spanish) stem from a period of about 1000-years after the Hebrew-Phoenician "golden age". They were Babylonian refugees who fled from the Romans in about 70 AD and have some ethnic roots going back to the Babylonian conquerors who defeated the last Hebrew kingdom. The Semitic Babylonians occupied Israel from 586 BC until their own expulsion under the Roman general Titus. One Jewish Rabbi historian commented: "The era of the Hebrews ended when the era of the jewish people began". The statement is only partially correct, inasmuch as it can only encompass the very small percentage of so-called Sephardim-Jewish people of today, whose ancestry can be traced back to the Babylonian refugees who fled from the Romans to Spain or to other countries like Ethiopia around 70 AD.

The term "Jewish" seems to be loosely based upon "Judeans" or people from the land called "Judea"... the former Southern Kingdom of the Hebrew or Israelite tribe of "Judah". Neither the Ashkenazi Turko-Khazzar Jewish people nor the Babylonian Sephardim Jewish people have any links to the Semitic Hebrew-Phoenician-Israelites.

The actual Hebrew-Phoenician refugee survivors fled from Israel-Lebanon between the 8th century BC to the 6th century BC, as their kingdoms and fortress cities fell to Assyrian, and later, Babylonian invaders. Most sought sanctuary amongst their cousins in Continental Europe, with many going to Britain, Greece, Corsica, Sardinia, or Sicily after escaping, firstly, to Egypt. Many gained sanctuary at colonial outposts like Carthage and remained there until losing it and other Mediterranean Islands to the Romans during the "Punic wars" (Punic is the latin word for Phoenician and Carthage was, by the time of the Punic wars in 264 BC, a Greco-Phoenician confederation).

[link to www.celticnz.co.nz]



From the beginning of the classical period, Greek has been written in the Greek alphabet, which was derived from the Phoenicians. This is clear from the shape of the letters, even Herodotus in his book of Histories, claimed the Greek alphabet included Phoenician styled letters in the alphabet, However, the Phoenician language only had letters for constants, which the Greeks adopted and evolved to included letters of sounds that were not included. Early Ancient Greek was also written from right to left, the same as the Phoenician.

[link to www.ancientgreece.com]



(name withheld) is the latest researcher to claim that in Sarina, Mackay in Queensland, a Phoenician harbour "cothon", a temple and some votive symbols were found. Another researcher Jonathan Gray in the "Ark of the Covenant" claims that a wreck of a Phoenician ship lies around the entrance of King Sound in the Buccaneer Archipelago near Derby in Western Australia. This wreck happened to be in the area of the silver, lead and zinc Galena Mine. Ross Wiseman wrote a book called "Pre-Tasman Explorers" which states that the Phoenicians left clues to their presence in stone around Lake Taupo in the North Island of New Zealand. Brett J.Green has devoted his book" The Gympie Pyramid Story" to the ruins and artefacts found in the Gympie and Cooloola regions of southeast Queensland that point to visitations and settlements of Phoenicians. However, the foremost researcher in this topic is called Rex Gilroy whose museum in Tamworth, NSW is rich in stones inscribed in Phoenician.

Read more: Phoenicia, Phoenicians in Australia [link to phoenicia.org]
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cheers

i was referring to ancient greek (much different to modern greek), which was spoken during the golden age of 20,000bc to 12,500bc (ancient greece and japan were the catalysts/facilitators of this golden age). it was after the "great flood" that the knowledge of this age was spread throughout the world (including egypt) by high priests/priestesses and their brothers/sisters
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Ok thanks xeno, very interesting do you have some links i could look at?

It seem inavertable that proceeding along our research, other areas around the world will become ralavent in relation to the south pacific/nz/oz, as there threads intertwine with the ancient past.

hf
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only have clear past life memories and direct comms from eternal spirits to prove this for now. later there will be more

written history is so far of the mark it's beyond a joke so there are no links, books or websites around today that i would quote or link to. this will soon change too

japan was thriving in the golden age i mentioned just as were the greeks (from 20000bc to 12500bc greece was much larger and the species of people living in turkey, pheonicia and the slavic region today were not present in those regions back then)

japan would be great to add to the mix if you are able to dig anything up

hf
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Yep I totally agree

I should have explained that I meant places where ancient people have lived and left evidence. .

And ancient people's would have chosen sites with high energy to settle..

But having said that, sometimes they would have settled near what they were mining. Especially true for OZ , because it's pretty obvious that large scale mining went on in your country in ancient times..
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true, not sure. i think dark visitors would have been more into mining than the pure. ancient people with pure divine knowledge can create their own vortices, temporary and permanent (or re-activate and charge form partially active to full active) and do not rely on "precious" physical materials. they adapt and use what is readily available
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Yep I totally agree

I should have explained that I meant places where ancient people have lived and left evidence. .

And ancient people's would have chosen sites with high energy to settle..

But having said that, sometimes they would have settled near what they were mining. Especially true for OZ , because it's pretty obvious that large scale mining went on in your country in ancient times..
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true, not sure. i think dark visitors would have been more into mining than the pure. ancient people with pure divine knowledge can create their own vortices, temporary and permanent (or re-activate and charge form partially active to full active) and do not rely on "precious" physical materials. they adapt and use what is readily available
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this is interesting....

Just an other perspective :)

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Hi Xeno

Ive seen possible links in the kolbrin to Japan, talks about the Sun People from the East, from the land of Dawning, who taught the people knowledge, Japan flag, conincidently is of a rising sun, ill look into it more :)
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A Guy just made a comment on one of my youtube vids, Says it looks very similar structure to whats found at the stone city in Waipoua forest. He posted this up few days ago.....


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Wow cool

Yeah that site you found is amazing,there is something unique about it, any ideas yet on what it might be ?

I think I saw some stone stacked walls at karangahake too last time I explored there
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No, nothing concrete yet, I have access to the site, just waiting to take the right pair of eyes along for a better view :) My next trip ill be taking the dowsing rods lol.

When we passed through karangahake easter hoilidays the family and i walked around the old mining site, I saw an old wall in the side of the hill(out of place)different construction, much older.

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