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MYSTERIES of ANCIENT NEW ZEALAND and THE PACIFIC

 
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LEGENDS OF THE MAORI

The Lost Land of Paorae

there was a vague story about some Maori Lost Atlantis that once existed on the western coast of the North Island of New Zealand. One dim legend ran that it was an island and that it vanished suddenly and mysteriously, obliterated by the gods of ocean.

A long, long time ago, Patara’s narrative went, a large expanse of low-lying land, dotted with dwellings and cultivations, stretched out seawards from the present South Head of Manukau Harbour. This tract of country extended southward in the direction of Waikato Heads. Anciently, the face of the land round Manukau Harbour and the Heads presented a very different appearance from what it does now. Then, the greater part of what is now Manukau (or originally, Manuka) Harbour, with its shallow tidal flats, was solid land, covered with kauri and other heavy timber. This land was low-lying, flat, and sandy, and through it ran three long saltwater creeks, or arms of the sea. Gradually, in the course of long years, the sea, to use Patara’s words, ate up the soft soil, until the sea slowly but surely took the land for itself. Thus, the Manukau was turned into a saltwater sea, and sea-birds screamed and fishes played where once thick forests grew.

“And how did that land vanish?”

“Kua kai e te tai” (“It was eaten up by the sea”) was Patara’s reply. “Ever since it was first inhabited and cultivated, that land was gradually being bitten into by the ocean. Each year, each year, the sea would eat a piece of the Paorae; the waves would roar right up to the plantations, and the growers of the kumara would be edged back and back. The great waves of the Tai-Hauauru dashed against that land of sand and washed portions of it away, and so in time the ocean rolled over it all. But there PAGE 119 was no great or sudden catastrophe. It did not perish by any great earthquake, or by a sudden and awful hurricane from the sea. It was worn away gradually until now, as you may see, there is not a sign of that ancient Paorae.”

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LEGENDS OF THE MAORI

CHAPTER X. CELT AND MAORI. — LIKENESSES IN FOLK-BELIEF, LEGEND AND POETRY

likenesses in folk-belief, legend and poetry.
many a year ago colonists from the Scottish Highlands and from other Celtic lands were interested to find a remarkably close resemblance between the Gael and Maori in some of the everyday customs and in tribal beliefs and concepts, as well as in social and political organisation. It was men like Sir Donald Maclean who were the readiest to understand something of the Maori mind and to perceive the motives and the processes of reasoning which prompted actions that to most pakeha people were at first inexplicable.

Governor Sir George Bowen, in his dispatches to the Colonial Office, frequently remarked on the close resemblance between Maori clan customs and those of the Highlands, especially in time of war. The average Maori of that day, had he been transplanted suddenly to a glen in Appin or an isle in the Hebrides, would have been able to adjust himself quickly to the tribal and village life.

In reading Gaelic literature and records of Highland clans I have noted many a family likeness between Gael and Maori—and not alone the Scottish Celt, but the Irish and the Manx—in customs, spiritual belief, and poetic expression.

The twilight of the old gods has not yet gone in the forests and straths of the West of Scotland and in the mountain valleys of the Urewera and the kaingas of Taranaki. The clan and sub-clan systems tended to isolation and to the preservation of old secret faiths, old ways, old songs.

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hiya brother!! xx
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how are things up your way?

hey i have started reading the kolbrin, and there aren't as many missing pages as a thought, just a couple..
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LEGENDS OF THE MAORI

CHAPTER X. CELT AND MAORI. — LIKENESSES IN FOLK-BELIEF, LEGEND AND POETRY

likenesses in folk-belief, legend and poetry.
many a year ago colonists from the Scottish Highlands and from other Celtic lands were interested to find a remarkably close resemblance between the Gael and Maori in some of the everyday customs and in tribal beliefs and concepts, as well as in social and political organisation. It was men like Sir Donald Maclean who were the readiest to understand something of the Maori mind and to perceive the motives and the processes of reasoning which prompted actions that to most pakeha people were at first inexplicable.

Governor Sir George Bowen, in his dispatches to the Colonial Office, frequently remarked on the close resemblance between Maori clan customs and those of the Highlands, especially in time of war. The average Maori of that day, had he been transplanted suddenly to a glen in Appin or an isle in the Hebrides, would have been able to adjust himself quickly to the tribal and village life.

In reading Gaelic literature and records of Highland clans I have noted many a family likeness between Gael and Maori—and not alone the Scottish Celt, but the Irish and the Manx—in customs, spiritual belief, and poetic expression.

The twilight of the old gods has not yet gone in the forests and straths of the West of Scotland and in the mountain valleys of the Urewera and the kaingas of Taranaki. The clan and sub-clan systems tended to isolation and to the preservation of old secret faiths, old ways, old songs.

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looks like you have found a very interesting new site..
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how are things up your way?

hey i have started reading the kolbrin, and there aren't as many missing pages as a thought, just a couple..
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hiya sister..

things are great up our way, getting ready for the white bait season which begins august 15th, good opportunity to explore the many islands that dot the lower waikato river.

thats good news about the kolbrin :)
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how are things up your way?

hey i have started reading the kolbrin, and there aren't as many missing pages as a thought, just a couple..
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hiya sister..

things are great up our way, getting ready for the white bait season which begins august 15th, good opportunity to explore the many islands that dot the lower waikato river.

thats good news about the kolbrin :)
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i didn't know there were islands..
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i didn't know there were islands..
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yip there's quite a few, Ive heard of some islands showing signs of occupation, things found by the locals, a old carvings of a lizard, old structures lineing some of the inner canals.
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i didn't know there were islands..
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yip there's quite a few, Ive heard of some islands showing signs of occupation, things found by the locals, a old carvings of a lizard, old structures lineing some of the inner canals.
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wow, how exciting

lucky you
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James Maccanney and his christmas star special(2007), where he talks about the kolbrin and its connection to NZ, very interesting info :)

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What an excellent thread. Thanks Anonymous.....wikardstoner

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What an excellent thread. Thanks Anonymous.....wikardstoner
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hiya

i wasn't anonymous when i started the thread, lols

had a wee accident with my first membership, but all good now

what is a wikard??
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James Maccanney and his christmas star special(2007), where he talks about the kolbrin and its connection to NZ, very interesting info :)

[link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]
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hiya ra

cool as
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What do you know about the Medallion of Havaiti Nui?

:havaiti:


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The one on the left looks like this



close to this

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EGYPTIANS IN AUSTRALIA





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Thanks for keeping this thread going!

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hiya ra

awesome, i cant wait to watch these
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Thanks for keeping this thread going!

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its our pleasure, AC

glad you enjoy it
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Thursday Dec 27, 2012

Historians rubbish claims of academic conspiracy

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Ngapuhi elder David Rankin today said based on some research, there needed to be an investigation into the status of Maori as the country's indigenous people.

He pointed to books authored by investigative journalist Ian Wishart and historian Maxwell Hill, which he said revealed "clear evidence" that some of New Zealand's earliest residents might have arrived before the Polynesians.

And he said details of much of the country's past were being concealed by academic historians.

"I would say it's a conspiracy. They are worried that their own research will be exposed so they have worked hard to ridicule and suppress any Maori history which disagrees with their views
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Thursday Dec 27, 2012

Historians rubbish claims of academic conspiracy

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Ngapuhi elder David Rankin today said based on some research, there needed to be an investigation into the status of Maori as the country's indigenous people.

He pointed to books authored by investigative journalist Ian Wishart and historian Maxwell Hill, which he said revealed "clear evidence" that some of New Zealand's earliest residents might have arrived before the Polynesians.

And he said details of much of the country's past were being concealed by academic historians.

"I would say it's a conspiracy. They are worried that their own research will be exposed so they have worked hard to ridicule and suppress any Maori history which disagrees with their views
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hiya AC

wow, thank you for this info

maybe the truth about nz's earliest inhabitants will finally be brought into the light

thank you david rankin for speaking out about the lies we are fed, instead of our true history here in nz
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THE ANCIENT STANDING STONE SURVEYING TRIG AT OPITO BAY, COROMANDEL, NZ.

According to a learned Maori elder who has memorised the oral traditions of his iwi, the forebears to his people first arrived in New Zealand in the year 700 AD from India. Upon finding these shores, this branch of Ngati-kuri ancestors encountered a long-term resident population who were preoccupied with erecting stone markers on hills all across the country. The newcomers thus named the long established residents, "the surveyors"

Their surviving ancient handiwork can be anything from solitary obelisk boulders, smaller standing stone arrangements, stone-piled cairns, large earthen mound humps to sighting-pits or cliff-cut notches, etc. Many of these structures are on high hills or range crests, while others are in valleys. Each has a good view onto at least one or many horizon targets and each served an important surveying, astronomical or navigational function for the ancient society that erected it.

Some markers served a calendar-related function as solar observatories and still work perfectly. They were used to determine the exact days for the solstices or equinoxes and keeping the calendars running true. Yet others were primarily or solely for land-mapping over vast distances and were made up of a centre hubstone and circuits of satellite boulders that stood off from the central hub. In such cases, the hubstone would invariably orientate accurately onto a horizon target that provided a fix for true North, South, East or West. The far distant outer marker targets would be the highest mountain peaks or hill crowns in the region, at least one of which would provide the essential, primary degree angle by which all other degree angles could be precisely read through 360-degrees of vista.

The ancient surveyors had brought very profound mathematical knowledge with them from their lands of origin. They possessed highly refined measurement standards and shared an assortment of "cubits", "reeds" or "feet" rules with their many cousin nations. Measurements were standardised amongst the great civilisations and were all founded upon the selfsame inch.

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THE ANCIENT STANDING STONE SURVEYING TRIG AT OPITO BAY, COROMANDEL, NZ.

According to a learned Maori elder who has memorised the oral traditions of his iwi, the forebears to his people first arrived in New Zealand in the year 700 AD from India. Upon finding these shores, this branch of Ngati-kuri ancestors encountered a long-term resident population who were preoccupied with erecting stone markers on hills all across the country. The newcomers thus named the long established residents, "the surveyors"

Their surviving ancient handiwork can be anything from solitary obelisk boulders, smaller standing stone arrangements, stone-piled cairns, large earthen mound humps to sighting-pits or cliff-cut notches, etc. Many of these structures are on high hills or range crests, while others are in valleys. Each has a good view onto at least one or many horizon targets and each served an important surveying, astronomical or navigational function for the ancient society that erected it.

Some markers served a calendar-related function as solar observatories and still work perfectly. They were used to determine the exact days for the solstices or equinoxes and keeping the calendars running true. Yet others were primarily or solely for land-mapping over vast distances and were made up of a centre hubstone and circuits of satellite boulders that stood off from the central hub. In such cases, the hubstone would invariably orientate accurately onto a horizon target that provided a fix for true North, South, East or West. The far distant outer marker targets would be the highest mountain peaks or hill crowns in the region, at least one of which would provide the essential, primary degree angle by which all other degree angles could be precisely read through 360-degrees of vista.

The ancient surveyors had brought very profound mathematical knowledge with them from their lands of origin. They possessed highly refined measurement standards and shared an assortment of "cubits", "reeds" or "feet" rules with their many cousin nations. Measurements were standardised amongst the great civilisations and were all founded upon the selfsame inch.

[link to www.celticnz.co.nz]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31305487


yes,indeed, when you know what to look for, it is easy to see these obelisks, cairns and stone arrangements, or remnants of them in numerous places in nz
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MAORI AND EGYPTIAN TATTOOING.

THROUGH the kindness of the “Otago Witness,” we are enabled to reproduce some pictures showing the similarity of the tattoo marks in some women of Assouan, Upper Egypt, and the ordinary kauae or chin tattooing of Maori women. Figures 1, 2, and 3, are Egyptians, figure 4 is a Maori woman, though her face, generally, is scarcely the Maori type. (view pictures at link)

The sketch shows that the married women of this tribe far up the Nile are tattooed in a manner remarkably similar to that in which the Maori women used to be tattooed, namely on the lips and chin, and now and again on the forehead. I am trying to persuade General Robley to follow up this clue, and at the same time to take in hand a comparative study of the tattooing of all primitive races. The results might probably be surprising in the dominion of ethnography. I forgot to mention that General Robley has found on some of theearlier Egyptian mummies certain ornamental designs which have hitherto been considered purely Egyptian, but he finds that they are identical with some of the most ancient Maori patterns .”

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The tribes of Taiwan share DNA with Maori

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TAIWAN'S politics is in the grip of a rather bitter feud over identity. The ''pan-blues'' view themselves mainly as Chinese, the ''pan-greens'' as Taiwanese. The split concerns whether people view themselves as belonging chiefly to Taiwan, because their families were established here before Nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek retreated to the island in 1949 after losing the civil war to the communists -- or whether they see themselves principally as Chinese, linked by ancestry or birth to mainland China. Standing to the side of this debate are the original Taiwanese, known usually as aborigines, about 2 per cent of the population.

The 12 original tribes of Taiwan are Austronesian by language and culture, as are the great majority of the island peoples who settled the Pacific islands. Since most historians now believe the Pacific was settled from East Asia, the island of Taiwan seems to have been their main place of origin. Work on DNA is backing this thesis up. About 60 per cent of Maori DNA is in common with Taiwanese aboriginal DNA. The aborigines also have anthropological connections to the Malay people of Southeast Asia.
Han Chinese people did not begin migrating to Taiwan until after a Dutch settlement in the southeast of the island, from 1624-62, was removed by Ming dynasty pirate-turned-admiral Zheng Cheng-gong.
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To help understand the arrival of these megalithic cultures in the Pacific, one needs to look at Egyptian history which curiously, has a navigator called Mawi (Maui) who with Captain Rata and a fleet of ships, attempted to circumnavigate the world in 232 BC under the guidance of scientist Eratosthenes who had calculated the circumference of the Earth and wanted verification of his results. Barry Fell identified petroglyphs in the Pacific attributed to Mawi and so was able to trace his voyage to Chile, Pitcairn Island and New Guinea.

According to Maori legend Maui discovered many islands in the Pacific - in particular, New Zealand.

Maori legend has it that Rata was on a mission to avenge the killing of his parents/ancestors. As the Lapita/Obsidian sea traders had suffered an unexplained demise just prior to the voyage of Maui and Rata, was Captain Rata in search of the killers of the Lapita people?

If this Egyptian fleet had attempted to circumnavigate the world via the southern route, logically they would have initially travelled Eastwards to a familiar trading port in Southern Sumatra to reprovision their ships, taking on board Rattus exulans. As the N.E. and S.E. Trade winds of the Pacific make it exceedingly difficult to travel Eastwards, their logical passage would have been to travel south, utilizing the Easterlies which blow off Australia until they reached the Westerly wind belt. New Zealand would logically have been their first stop. Petroglyphs by Mawi in Chile (at about 35 degrees south) found by Barry Fell depicts another important milestone on his voyage. It appears Maui travelled North once he had touched on the South American Coastline in search of a passage through to the Atlantic. Unwilling to venture far enough south to round the formidable Cape Horn, Mawi must have seen the South American coastline as an insurmountable barrier. According to petroglyphs on Pitcairn Island, it appears that Mawi returned with the S.E. Trade winds across the Pacific. Petroglyphs indicate Mawi viewed a Lunar Eclipse on Pitcairn Island. The celestially aligned Ha'amonga a Maui (The burden of Maui) suggests a stopover in Tonga Tapu to do some accurate solar observations. The megalithic stone pyramids of Lapaha nearby also suggest the handiwork of Egyptian stonemasons, suggesting that they attempted to set up a colony. The early walls of Rapa Nui (see above) and the Kaimanua wall of New Zealand also suggest Egyptian stonemasonry technology. Petroglyphs in Irian Jaya's 'cave of the navigators', marks Mawi's return to familiar waters, where he described the navigational device - the Tanawa, which he used on the voyage to find longitude. It is interesting that Polynesians wear the Taniwha to ensure a safe ocean voyage and successful landfall. Although it is a dragon motif, not an instrument, it is said that angles and holes on a genuine pendant helped one navigate by the stars.
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What do you know about the Medallion of Havaiti Nui?

havaiti


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 Quoting: Da Purple Chicken


Thanks Da Purple Chicken, very interesting. The picture on the right, the one that looks like a spider web, reminds of waitaha and the people they call "The spider people" these were a group that practiced a form of genetic engernering, matching marrage amonst different people, for the benifit of the people and nation, they were record keepers according to waitaha, who with the knowledge tied two threads(familys/hapu/tribes) together, via arranged marrages, utillizeing the streagth of different blood lines.

Its also interesting that in the center is the star of david, the symbol of spirit or to maori "wairua" wai means water and rua means two, two waters or two spirits, the symbol of water is a triangle, the star of david is made up of two triangles, one upside down, hence two waters, "wairua".

The star of david is also an ancient symbol of Taoism.

Again i notice 8 threads of the inner circle, and other suggestion of the spider connection, also related to the mind, as spiders build there nest in the air, and catch air element creatures for food, our own mind has a such a net, that filter information?

Also dream catchers related to spider, subconsouse connection.
 Quoting: Ra 5966591



Ley Lines and The Meaning Of Adam

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Our Ariadne's thread out of this bewildering maze of physical life on Earth is the ley line. The rediscovery of ley lines in this century is only a fragment, however, of the eventual unveiling of the secrets of Nature. Ley lines are the luminous strands that many are pulling at today, hardly suspecting what riches lie at the end of these subtle light lines. All ley lines lead to the planetary Grid, the primary light and energy matrix, creating, enveloping, and maintaining planet Earth, our Gaia.

The Grid has been variously described by poets and clairvoyants in recent times.

Ley lines are "the radial threads on a spider's web." 1

Ley lines form the "focal points in a vast multilayered cobweb somewhat reminiscent of a micrograph of nerve cells and their ganglia" as "the circulation and nervous system of the body of earth." 2

The Grid is "a geometrically precise web" punctuated with "Grids of Light, focal points," a "receptor web complex with nexi of entrance." 3

The British novelist Doris Lessing writes intimately of the Grid as "the enclosing web of subtle light (that) touched the earth globe...All over the globe ran these pulses or lines" which make "a colored spinning membrane" and "a great web of patterning oscillations and quiverings." 4



"I saw the Earth as a fishnet web of light lines. My body was the same, and there were lines of light radiating from the intersections of the planet's surface to link with the web network surrounding other planets."

The Hermetic Keys to the planetary Grid are inscribed on the Messenger's mythical Emerald Tablets, which summarize the 7 Hermetic Principles underlying all manifestation. These are the keys to Hermes' Geomancy:

The Principle of Mentalism (The Universe is Mental, the All is Infinite Mind, which is the fundamental reality and the womb of all universes).

The Principle of Correspondence (Whatever is Below is like unto that which is Above, and whatever is Above is like that which is Below, to accomplish the miracles of The One).

The Principle of Vibration (Nothing rests; everything moves and vibrates).

The Principle of Polarity (Everything is dual, has poles, and pairs of opposites).

The Principle of Rhythm (Everything has its tides, its rise and fall, its equal pendulum swings to the right and left, its peaks and troughs).

The Principle of Causation (Every effect has its Cause, every Cause has its Effect, all proceeding by Law, never by chance).

The Principle of Gender (Everything has its "masculine" and "feminine" aspects).5

Experiential knowledge of Hermes' principles through meditative interfacing with the Earth Grid leads us into the secrets of geomancy.

The Grid is not something out there , away from us, safely, abstractly separate from our daily lives. Our molecular bodies and human consciousness as we walk on Earth live within the Grid. The Grid is like a unified tuning fork vibrating with our Light/Life/Electromagnetic spectrum for Earth as we receive it daily from our specific Star Evolution paradigm, the Sun, the astrophysical center of our local solar system Grid. Our King Sun is an evolving star, and our lives as humans on Earth are breathed within the Grid-mediated parameters of "His" body, our familiar solar system.

The Grid is the forgotten nexus between humankind, as embodied, Earth-walking consciousness, and the starry heavens. The Grid is the spiritual link for the blending of cosmic and terrestrial energies in the consciousness experiment known as Humanity; it is the pervasive means for the harmonious fusion of the energies of the solar system in human consciousness.


also fits in with this

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Hi harmonic, what a conincidence, yesterday i went to the library and got out 2 books, the First

The Energy Grid, Harmonic 695, The Pulse of the Universe, and Prehistoric man in Palliser Bay in the south island, then last night i read your post, and the handle you use, and i thought, hmmmmm.......

There are diffinately many aspect involved, harmonics being one of them, which have a relationship to ley lines, Its been notice by people like Hammish miller, who use's dowzing as a tool to follow ley lines, that alot of the ley lines happen to converge or run through ancient sites, like the ones that are found at The crosshouse at Miringa Tekakara.

Ive read an earlier addition of Harmonic 695, but i need to read it more indepth over the next week or so, to get a handle on what is being discussed in there.

I suspect them location where leylines meet, were utilized for a purpose, communication of sorts, or transferr of information, possible travel?
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kia ora Ra =) any of cathie's books are a treasure to have in ones possession. i'm not familiar with hamish miller, i'll be sure to check him out too. if one hasn't already, the work of graham hancock, richard hoagland, and graham stewart also make for great reading concerning the world grid and harmonics.

from my own investigations, in a nutshell, such sites along great/small circle tracks [or as some term "leys"] radiate from celestially-associated central "hubs" or navels, each of which collectively forms a great grid network that facilitates a variety of different purposes, including those which you mentioned [intra- and inter-dimensional travel and communication, etc]. there are numerous "layers" [i.e. harmonics of certain frequencies] which makes up the grid, combining both old [sacred sites, ancient monuments, etc] and new [nuclear facilities and "testing" sites, bruce cathie's grid poles, etc] technologies, each layer catering for numerous functions, from anti-gravity to quantum data storage [e.g. via blood ritualism]. as bruce cathie puts it, reality [i.e. that which we perceive within the bandwidth which consciousness is assigned] is made up of wave-forms, each atom, body, location, etc vibrating at various frequencies in relation to light [approx. 144,000 arcmin]. as such, when one understands the nature of vibration and harmonics, reality as expressed via creation [body, earth, etc] can be "programmed" for a variety of purposes, from the menial [e.g. that which is evident to some degree in the practice of acupuncture, tai chi, and other eastern arts] to longer-term [reality reconstruction and collective consciousness shifts based on certain fundamental harmonic cycles and evident in the harmonic relationships between a variety of site locations around the world, both ancient and modern].
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kia ora harmonic5525305, i resonate and comprehend what you are saying, the ancients that used to live here, had highly developed systems for the mind and consousness, and were able to perform and accomplish great feats, and a system were the infomation was imbeded within the land and the stars, ready for anybody who had the time and diligence to access it, via natural laws related to certain principles. It was a system that could be applyied to all levels and layers, and based on universal law, relavant to not only the individual level, but the community and nation.

Its interesting as alot of ancient mounds and such, looks as if they have been placed, as a type of eviromental fong sway, to effect the energy signiture of certain areas, inhanceing, and in some cases, directing excess energy safely away?.

The formulars used in Harmonics, to discover french potential Nuclear testing dates in the pacific was interesting, concidering he pre picked the right dates, you think there is a possibility harmonics could be used to predict earthquakes or the potential enviorment for when one is likely to occur in a certain area?
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they [i.e. the ancients] indeed did. they understood things differently: there is no space, no time, hence no real distance between things ["there is no spoon" - the matrix], it is merely part of the friendly user-interface or "construct" which human consciousness was created and endowed with; the harmonic design and layout of and between the sub-atomic, body, world, planets, stars, etc are representative of a higher, harmonic order of things beyond space-time, ultimately leading us to the single truth that we are one cosmic organism, expressed physically within our frame of reference as visible light which in itself is comprised of a plethora of colors of varying frequencies, each bearing an harmonic relationship with each other and the whole. all that really needed to be understood as the ancients did and as bruce cathie touches on in his research, is that all things, when reduced, are number [more specifically relationships expressed via ratios, cycles, harmonics, etc]. when this is fully realized, creation [body, earth, etc] can be used to accomplish a variety of "tasks", much like a computer. there are an infinite amount of realities, an infinite amount of "tasks" to be able to do, and as such, an infinite value to light as opposed to, say, the normally accepted value of approx. 300000 km/s [i.e. that which we are able to perceive given the "bandwidth" consciousness is assigned, hence the usual inability to "tune in" or capture things in other realities/dimensions]. when one understands harmonics, cycles, and ratios and uses these principles within this space-time "construct", anything can be possible. this is evident in the alignment of many seemingly-disparate sites and internal design of structures around the world which has, as you've noted, affected the lives of individuals, communities, and nations in a variety of ways.

cathie got a fair bit of "spooky" attention when he predicted those mururoa tests. he basically blew the whole premise of the cold war out the window! one could take it further by assuming that the whole cold war was just an excuse by the world's collective military machine and elite scientific fraternity for experimenting with the grid. as for tectonic/volcanic activity, and as cathie himself was able to prove, these too are predictable since the whole basis for these occurrences lies in harmonics and cycles, solar/planetary configurations, and certain relationships with and between significant points on the grid.
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Possible Kolbrin connections to Waitaha of New Zealand

The people who came with Nadhi were wise in the ways of the seasons and in the wisdom of the stars. They read the Book of Heaven with understanding. They covered their dead with potter’s clay and hardened it, for it was not their custom to place their dead in boxes.

Those who came with the Great One were cunning craftsmen in stone, they were carvers of wood and ivory. The High God was worshipped with strange light in places of great silences. They paid homage to the huge sleeping beast in the depths of the sea, believing it to bear the Earth on its back; they believed its stirrings plunged lands to destruction. Some said it burrowed beneath them. In Ramakui there was a great city with roads and waterways, and the fields were bounded with walls of stone and channels. In the centre of the land was the great flat-topped Mountain of God.

The city had walls of stone and was decorated with stones of red and black, white shells and feathers. There were heavy green stones in the land and stones patterned in green, black and brown. There were stones of saka, which men cut for ornaments, stones which became molten for cunning work. They built walls of black glass and bound them with glass by fire.

They used strange fire from the Netherworld which was but slightly separated from them, and foul air from the breath of the damned rose in their midst. They made eye reflectors of glass stone, which cured the ills of men. They purified men with strange metal and purged them of evil spirits in flowing fire. We dwell in a land of three peoples, but those who came from Ramakui and Zaidor were fewer in numbers. It was the men of Zaidor who built the Great Guardian which ever watches, looking towards the awakening place of God. The day He comes not its voice will be heard.

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

Interesting to note waitaha was also a nation of 3 people, one a stone people, one a star people and one were garderner's, also the reference to Large green stone deposits, which we still have in NZ.

Incredible ocean voyages

“There are enormous ocean currents, great rivers in the sea that carry you across the ocean and if you know where to get on and off these you can go wondrous distances.

“They were incredible voyages and are described in Song of Waitaha.

“When the Waitaha were ready, they sent the founding waka from their homelands, carrying 175 people who had the mana and the whakapapa and the wairua, the spirit, to make a nation – to create this nation of the Waitaha. And it was a nation of many people.”

There were three peoples aboard the founding waka. “One was called the Urukehu, the people whose skin was so white it was freckled. They had blonde hair and red hair and their eyes were blue or hazel. They were a small people. They were the Starwalkers, the navigators, and they had amazing skills in understanding the geometry of the stars. They could read the patterns in the stars to lead them to this land.

“Alongside them were the tall, dark people who were giants. They were over six foot and we know they existed because their bones are still here in special places. They were supreme gardeners. In this land they harvested the kumara 1000 kilometres further south than it was grown, even in its homeland in South America. They had developed sophisticated gardening skills. These were the Moriori.

“And the third people were called the Stone People, the Kirita. They were the stonewalkers, or stonecarriers, or stoneshapers. They were the people of the snows. People ask how they carried the pounamu over the mountains passes, how they coped with the snow and cold. They revelled in it, because that was their home. They came from the land of snow and cold.”

[link to www.generationspirit.com]
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MAORI AND EGYPTIAN TATTOOING.

THROUGH the kindness of the “Otago Witness,” we are enabled to reproduce some pictures showing the similarity of the tattoo marks in some women of Assouan, Upper Egypt, and the ordinary kauae or chin tattooing of Maori women. Figures 1, 2, and 3, are Egyptians, figure 4 is a Maori woman, though her face, generally, is scarcely the Maori type. (view pictures at link)

The sketch shows that the married women of this tribe far up the Nile are tattooed in a manner remarkably similar to that in which the Maori women used to be tattooed, namely on the lips and chin, and now and again on the forehead. I am trying to persuade General Robley to follow up this clue, and at the same time to take in hand a comparative study of the tattooing of all primitive races. The results might probably be surprising in the dominion of ethnography. I forgot to mention that General Robley has found on some of theearlier Egyptian mummies certain ornamental designs which have hitherto been considered purely Egyptian, but he finds that they are identical with some of the most ancient Maori patterns .”

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