MYSTERIES of ANCIENT NEW ZEALAND and THE PACIFIC

Hiya harmonic

I thought of you when I posted that

Good to hear from you

hi tauranga thx for the thought! hope all is well where ye dwell bruce definitely has a grasp on the "mathematics of light" to some extent, its great to get his (albeit "pseudo-scientific") perspective from time to time.

i sense we are drawing very close to significant changes in our world with this knowledge being released right at this most poignant time as certain events occur simultaneously within our world (nato summit, solar eclipse & venus transit, the great invocation, etc]. like you said e hoa: synchronicity!

harmonic, Tauranga


Riddle of the skull: What was a white woman doing in New Zealand 100 years before Europeans settled there?

The discovery of a yellowing, cracked skull on a riverbank in New Zealand’s North Island had baffled scientists.
Their research has shown the skull belonged to a European woman who lived about 270 years ago – a century before the first known arrival of white settlers in the country.


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

interesting.....

THE TAURANGA DISTRICT TRIBES

Waitaha are one of the original tribes of Tauranga Moana. Named for the son of Hei, a crew member on the Arawa canoe, Waitaha at one time occupied all of the land from the Waimapu River in Tauranga, across to Maketū, as well as Mauao together with Ngāti Ranginui.

A number of generations after the Arawa canoe landed, a descendant of Waitaha, the great chief Takakōpiri, divided his lands between his two grandsons Te Iwikorokē and Kūmaramaoa. The former inherited the lands on the Maketū side of the Ōtawa Range, and the latter those on the Tauranga side. Kūmaramaoas descendants married into sections of the Ngāi Te Rangi and Ngāti Pūkenga, who inherited his lands and today represent much of his interests. The Iwikorokē descendants of Waitaha have a marae base and settlement at Manoeka (Motungārara) near Te Puke.

[link to www.pakington.co.nz]

LEGENDS OF THE MAORI

The Lost Land of Paorae

there was a vague story about some Maori Lost Atlantis that once existed on the western coast of the North Island of New Zealand. One dim legend ran that it was an island and that it vanished suddenly and mysteriously, obliterated by the gods of ocean.

A long, long time ago, Patara’s narrative went, a large expanse of low-lying land, dotted with dwellings and cultivations, stretched out seawards from the present South Head of Manukau Harbour. This tract of country extended southward in the direction of Waikato Heads. Anciently, the face of the land round Manukau Harbour and the Heads presented a very different appearance from what it does now. Then, the greater part of what is now Manukau (or originally, Manuka) Harbour, with its shallow tidal flats, was solid land, covered with kauri and other heavy timber. This land was low-lying, flat, and sandy, and through it ran three long saltwater creeks, or arms of the sea. Gradually, in the course of long years, the sea, to use Patara’s words, ate up the soft soil, until the sea slowly but surely took the land for itself. Thus, the Manukau was turned into a saltwater sea, and sea-birds screamed and fishes played where once thick forests grew.

“And how did that land vanish?”

“Kua kai e te tai” (“It was eaten up by the sea”) was Patara’s reply. “Ever since it was first inhabited and cultivated, that land was gradually being bitten into by the ocean. Each year, each year, the sea would eat a piece of the Paorae; the waves would roar right up to the plantations, and the growers of the kumara would be edged back and back. The great waves of the Tai-Hauauru dashed against that land of sand and washed portions of it away, and so in time the ocean rolled over it all. But there PAGE 119 was no great or sudden catastrophe. It did not perish by any great earthquake, or by a sudden and awful hurricane from the sea. It was worn away gradually until now, as you may see, there is not a sign of that ancient Paorae.”

[link to nzetc.victoria.ac.nz]

LEGENDS OF THE MAORI

CHAPTER X. CELT AND MAORI. — LIKENESSES IN FOLK-BELIEF, LEGEND AND POETRY

likenesses in folk-belief, legend and poetry.
many a year ago colonists from the Scottish Highlands and from other Celtic lands were interested to find a remarkably close resemblance between the Gael and Maori in some of the everyday customs and in tribal beliefs and concepts, as well as in social and political organisation. It was men like Sir Donald Maclean who were the readiest to understand something of the Maori mind and to perceive the motives and the processes of reasoning which prompted actions that to most pakeha people were at first inexplicable.

Governor Sir George Bowen, in his dispatches to the Colonial Office, frequently remarked on the close resemblance between Maori clan customs and those of the Highlands, especially in time of war. The average Maori of that day, had he been transplanted suddenly to a glen in Appin or an isle in the Hebrides, would have been able to adjust himself quickly to the tribal and village life.

In reading Gaelic literature and records of Highland clans I have noted many a family likeness between Gael and Maori—and not alone the Scottish Celt, but the Irish and the Manx—in customs, spiritual belief, and poetic expression.

The twilight of the old gods has not yet gone in the forests and straths of the West of Scotland and in the mountain valleys of the Urewera and the kaingas of Taranaki. The clan and sub-clan systems tended to isolation and to the preservation of old secret faiths, old ways, old songs.

[link to nzetc.victoria.ac.nz]

hiya brother!! xx

how are things up your way?

hey i have started reading the kolbrin, and there aren't as many missing pages as a thought, just a couple..

Last Edited by Tauranga on 08/08/2012 07:29 PM

looks like you have found a very interesting new site..

hiya sister..

things are great up our way, getting ready for the white bait season which begins august 15th, good opportunity to explore the many islands that dot the lower waikato river.

thats good news about the kolbrin :)

i didn't know there were islands..

[link to i49.tinypic.com]

yip there's quite a few, Ive heard of some islands showing signs of occupation, things found by the locals, a old carvings of a lizard, old structures lineing some of the inner canals.

wow, how exciting

lucky you

James Maccanney and his christmas star special(2007), where he talks about the kolbrin and its connection to NZ, very interesting info :)

[link to www.jmccanneyscience.com]

What an excellent thread. Thanks Anonymous.....wikard

Last Edited by ngawaka19 on 08/17/2012 12:32 PM

hiya

i wasn't anonymous when i started the thread, lols

had a wee accident with my first membership, but all good now

what is a wikard??

hiya ra

cool as

The one on the left looks like this



close to this

EGYPTIANS IN AUSTRALIA

Thanks for keeping this thread going!

hiya ra

awesome, i cant wait to watch these

its our pleasure, AC

glad you enjoy it

Thursday Dec 27, 2012

Historians rubbish claims of academic conspiracy

[link to www.nzherald.co.nz]

Ngapuhi elder David Rankin today said based on some research, there needed to be an investigation into the status of Maori as the country's indigenous people.

He pointed to books authored by investigative journalist Ian Wishart and historian Maxwell Hill, which he said revealed "clear evidence" that some of New Zealand's earliest residents might have arrived before the Polynesians.

And he said details of much of the country's past were being concealed by academic historians.

"I would say it's a conspiracy. They are worried that their own research will be exposed so they have worked hard to ridicule and suppress any Maori history which disagrees with their views

hiya AC

wow, thank you for this info

maybe the truth about nz's earliest inhabitants will finally be brought into the light

thank you david rankin for speaking out about the lies we are fed, instead of our true history here in nz

THE ANCIENT STANDING STONE SURVEYING TRIG AT OPITO BAY, COROMANDEL, NZ.

According to a learned Maori elder who has memorised the oral traditions of his iwi, the forebears to his people first arrived in New Zealand in the year 700 AD from India. Upon finding these shores, this branch of Ngati-kuri ancestors encountered a long-term resident population who were preoccupied with erecting stone markers on hills all across the country. The newcomers thus named the long established residents, "the surveyors"

Their surviving ancient handiwork can be anything from solitary obelisk boulders, smaller standing stone arrangements, stone-piled cairns, large earthen mound humps to sighting-pits or cliff-cut notches, etc. Many of these structures are on high hills or range crests, while others are in valleys. Each has a good view onto at least one or many horizon targets and each served an important surveying, astronomical or navigational function for the ancient society that erected it.

Some markers served a calendar-related function as solar observatories and still work perfectly. They were used to determine the exact days for the solstices or equinoxes and keeping the calendars running true. Yet others were primarily or solely for land-mapping over vast distances and were made up of a centre hubstone and circuits of satellite boulders that stood off from the central hub. In such cases, the hubstone would invariably orientate accurately onto a horizon target that provided a fix for true North, South, East or West. The far distant outer marker targets would be the highest mountain peaks or hill crowns in the region, at least one of which would provide the essential, primary degree angle by which all other degree angles could be precisely read through 360-degrees of vista.

The ancient surveyors had brought very profound mathematical knowledge with them from their lands of origin. They possessed highly refined measurement standards and shared an assortment of "cubits", "reeds" or "feet" rules with their many cousin nations. Measurements were standardised amongst the great civilisations and were all founded upon the selfsame inch.

[link to www.celticnz.co.nz]

MAORI AND EGYPTIAN TATTOOING.

THROUGH the kindness of the “Otago Witness,” we are enabled to reproduce some pictures showing the similarity of the tattoo marks in some women of Assouan, Upper Egypt, and the ordinary kauae or chin tattooing of Maori women. Figures 1, 2, and 3, are Egyptians, figure 4 is a Maori woman, though her face, generally, is scarcely the Maori type. (view pictures at link)

The sketch shows that the married women of this tribe far up the Nile are tattooed in a manner remarkably similar to that in which the Maori women used to be tattooed, namely on the lips and chin, and now and again on the forehead. I am trying to persuade General Robley to follow up this clue, and at the same time to take in hand a comparative study of the tattooing of all primitive races. The results might probably be surprising in the dominion of ethnography. I forgot to mention that General Robley has found on some of theearlier Egyptian mummies certain ornamental designs which have hitherto been considered purely Egyptian, but he finds that they are identical with some of the most ancient Maori patterns .”

[link to www.jps.auckland.ac.nz]

The tribes of Taiwan share DNA with Maori

[link to hnn.us]

TAIWAN'S politics is in the grip of a rather bitter feud over identity. The ''pan-blues'' view themselves mainly as Chinese, the ''pan-greens'' as Taiwanese. The split concerns whether people view themselves as belonging chiefly to Taiwan, because their families were established here before Nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek retreated to the island in 1949 after losing the civil war to the communists -- or whether they see themselves principally as Chinese, linked by ancestry or birth to mainland China. Standing to the side of this debate are the original Taiwanese, known usually as aborigines, about 2 per cent of the population.

The 12 original tribes of Taiwan are Austronesian by language and culture, as are the great majority of the island peoples who settled the Pacific islands. Since most historians now believe the Pacific was settled from East Asia, the island of Taiwan seems to have been their main place of origin. Work on DNA is backing this thesis up. About 60 per cent of Maori DNA is in common with Taiwanese aboriginal DNA. The aborigines also have anthropological connections to the Malay people of Southeast Asia.
Han Chinese people did not begin migrating to Taiwan until after a Dutch settlement in the southeast of the island, from 1624-62, was removed by Ming dynasty pirate-turned-admiral Zheng Cheng-gong.

Very interesting thread. I'm glad this was re-up'd. 5*s.