MYSTERIES of ANCIENT NEW ZEALAND and THE PACIFIC

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The Hard Evidence

The original scholarly paper on the discovery was titled “Notes upon the probable Changes that have taken place in the Physical Geography of New Zealand since the arrival of the Maori” by T.H. Cockburn-Hood, F.G.S. (p112-120). In it the author “explains some scientific evidence in the form of an ancient stump that proves ancient inhabitants existed in NZ in a period prior to volcanic land formation. It is evidence of human activity in NZ prior to the laying down of ancient volcanic debris.” The Auckland Southern Cross newspaper ran a “Report on the chopped tree stump” and it apparently created quite a stir at the time. This is their report: “Report on the chopped tree stump” “An exceedingly interesting relic of the very remote past is now to be seen in the office of the Improvement Commissioners. It is the root of a tree found in one of the cuttings being made under the direction of that Commission.

The root has evidently been chopped through by a stone adze, which was found beside it. There were also several small branches and roots of the same tree on which the edge of the stone adze had been tried, and the whole crown of the stump had the marks of having been laboriously and patiently cut through by the rude stone implement in the unknown past, and by one of an equally unknown race of human beings. The root was found when cutting the sewer up the middle of Coburg Street, near the lower end, a little above its junction with the continuation of Wellesley Street, and at a depth of about 25 feet below the surface of the Barrack Hill at that place. From the surface downwards for about 14 feet, at the place where the root was found, the hill is composed of volcanic matter. Below that depth, for about 8 or 9 feet, there is a series of layers of a mixture of sand and clay, which appears to have been at one time deposited under water. Below that is a large bed of fine blue ‘washdirt’ resembling blue clay.

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These strata and the blue clay do not seem to have been disturbed by volcanic action, and the several strata are lying with the utmost regularity possible. It was in the upper portion of the bed of blue clay that the root was found embedded, standing upright as if it had grown there, and the several small branches which were found at the same place were of the same kind of timber, and bore plain and distinct marks of the stone implement upon them. The inference to be drawn is not only that the islands of New Zealand had been inhabited long anterior to (before) the migration of the Maoris to them but that they had been peopled before the extinct volcano in the neighbourhood of the present Mechanic’s Institute had begun to belch its mud torrents and streams of melted lava.

This conclusion seems to be inevitable, whether it be assumed that the tree grew where the root and the implement of its destruction were, or whether, as some incline to think, a river had run where the blue stratum is found, and that the root had been carried from a distance to its resting place. In either case the root must have been where it was found the other day, not only before the volcanic matter was deposited on the Barrack Hill, but for a sufficiently long period before that to permit a stratum of 8 to 10 feet in thickness to be deposited.” (my emphasis –ed.)

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Korotangi-Sacred Bird of Tainui

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The origins of the Korotangi remain a mystery, although it is now almost 100 years since it was found by a Maori imbedded in the roots of an upturned manuka tree, between Aotea harbour and Raglan. All that is definitely known is that it was discovered in 1878, that it weighs 4 Ib 10 oz, is 10 inches long and is finely carved from a dark green serpentine. The Korotangi bird at first glance resembled a prion or whalebird, until it was noted that instead of having a united nasal tube, the Korotangi had lateral nostrils at the base of the beak, rather like a ducks. No-one knew how long it had been under the tree, but one thing was clear, it bore no resemblance to any known carving. The Korotangi was first aquired by Albert Walker, who left it for a short time with Major Drummond Hay of Cambridge, and it was during it's stay in Major Drummonds home that the first clue came to Korotangi's identity.

An old chieftainess, seeing the stone bird, immediately bowed before it and began to sing a lament to the Korotangi. The news of the find soon spread amongst the Maori and all who saw it, claimed it was the sacred talisman, Korotangi, brought to NZ in the Tainui waka. The korotangi was said to have been stored at "Te Ahurei", the wananga or school of learning, along with other precious stone emblems, established shortly after the Tainui waka arrived in Kawhia harbour. Later the korotangi and these other emblems were lost, causing a civil war amongst the Tainui people. After the korotangi had been identified, it was bought by Major John Wilson as a present for his wife and many Maori chiefs visited the Wilson house to view the famous stone bird, including: Tawhiao, King Potatau 11 and Rewi Maniapoto, who asked if he could have the korotangi in his bedroom. His wish was granted and it is said, he rose several times in the night to tangi over it.

Rest of story at link above.

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By W. J. PHILLIPPS THE YEAR WAS 1878, and a gale of wind blew from the north to strike Waikato with more than ordinary violence. This gale blew over an old manuka tree growing in a disused rua (or storage pit) somewhere between Raglan and Kawhia. A Maori living nearby went to investigate and found at the roots of the tree a carved stone bird which was soon hailed as the long lost Korotangi by the three great chiefs, Rewi Maniapoto, Tawhiao and Te Ngahau. Its finder sold it to a European, Mr Albert Walker, who deposited it at a house in Cambridge, From Mr Walker the stone bird passed to Mrs Wilson, £50 being paid for it. In an article by Major Wilson and E. Tregear. * we read that Mrs Wilson was strongly advised by Te Ngahau to cast it into the depths of the Waikato River for fear she would suffer makutu—or bewitchment—at the instance of persons who themselves wished to become possessed of the treasure. Mrs Wilson's death is, by some, ascribed to makutu on this account. We can very well, then, judge of the anxiety to have the Korotangi placed where there would be little likelihood of its falling into obnoxious hands, so it was placed in a bank where it remained for many years. Mrs Wilson was the wife of Major Wilson, and was known as Te Aorere or Agnes. It was her son Jack who succeeded to the stone bird, which he held for safe keeping at the Bank of New Zealand, Wellington. On the death of Jack Wilson, Korotangi passed to his widow, Mrs Smith Wilson, who has deposited it in the Dominion Museum,....

...a stipulation being that Korotangi must never be stored in the dark but must always see the light of day. Korotangi is made of a kind of dark green serpentine, and is 10 ½ in. from point of beak to tail. Actually, it somewhat resembles a prior; but the nostrils are those of a duck. The shape of the bird has also been compared to that of a pigeon or dove. Similar carved birds are found in Japan and Malaya, and have been unearthed in excavations at Ur on the Chaldees. George Graham, writing in the Journal of the Polynesian Society, vol. 26, 1917, has an interesting account of the story of Korotangi which he states is undoubtedly of great antiquity. He has heard the legend of Korotangi recited in varying forms among the Waikato, Hgauraki, Kaipara and Arawa people, and inclines to the belief that it is of Tainui origin.

Graham states: “A version of the waiata for the Korotangi was sung for me by Noka Hukanui, an aged man of the Awataha settlement in Shoal Bay, Auckland. He claims descent from Tainui crew and Waiohua tribe of these parts, and asserts that this was the form in which he had heard the waiata for Korotangi sung by the old people of Waitemata and Waikato:

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The waiata

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Te Aorere, who refused to have Korotangi hidden away. From a painting on deposit in the Dominion Museum.

The Mysterious Moeraki Boulders

If you go down to Koekohe beach in New Zealand you can be sure of a big surprise. In front of you, scattered like enormous marbles from some long abandoned game between giants, are hundreds of giant spherical rocks. Or are they the egg shells of sea-born dragons? The Moeraki boulders present us with a mystery –what are they and how on earth did they get there?

Some are isolated but may occur in clusters. That they are here is the result of three things –erosion, concretion and time. First the waves, inexorable and patient, have pounded the local bedrock for countless millennia. The mudstone on the beach –rock which was originally mud and clay –is slowly but surely eroded. Underneath are the boulders that the mudstone –in its original wet form, helped to form. However, the boulders were not there to begin with –that came later.

amazing photos of the boulders

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More photos of the boulders

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What is significant about these concretions is their size. They are big. While not unique on the planet, some of them are up to a meter in diameter but the majority range from 1.5 to 2.2 meters –that is almost seven feet in diameter. Most of them are almost perfect spheres.

There are large cracks on the boulders and these are known as septaria. The center of each boulder is hollow and the septaria radiate from there. It is not really known what causes these septaria but they can be filled up by several layers of calcite themselves and sometimes an extremely thin layer of quartz.

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Mysterious New Zealand The Giant Eagle

Haast's Eagle (Harpagornis moorei), was a massive, now extinct eagle that once lived on the South Island of New Zealand. Also known as the Harpagornis Eagle, it was the largest eagle to have ever lived. Female Haast's Eagles weighed 10 to 15 kg (22 to 33 lb), and males weighed 9 to 10 kg (20 to 22 lb). They had a wingspan of roughly 2.6 to 3 m (8 to 10 ft) at most, which was short for a bird of the eagle's weight (the largest Golden Eagles and Steller's Sea Eagles may have a wingspan of almost the same length), but aided them when hunting in the dense forests of New Zealand. 300 years ago, however, the Haasts Eagle was officially extinct.

Or is it?

When european explorers returned from exploring New Zealand, they told tales of a bird so collosal it emitted a roar like that of a lion. The roarss were reported from Stewart Island as recently as 1961 and, because the animal making these nocturnal sounds was never seen, the legend of the giant eagle living on began to spread. Other suggested candidates are the New Zealand snipe, and the tui which can both imitate loud booming sounds. Many who heard the roars however, maintined to their deathbeds that what they heard was a beast that today remains a mystery, and certainly not any of the well known local bird life.

Julius Von Haast himself, discoverer of Haasts Eagle and one of the first explorers of New Zealand, a scientific though open minded man, actually saw what he thought was a giant eagle gliding through thin mist in the Canterbury mountains, and a large bird that walked into his tent one night was also suggested to be a giant eagle, though Haast believed it to be in fact a small Moa, but without evidence for either of these events, Haasts kept them quite secret in fear of ridicule from his scientific peers.

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A noted explorer, Charles Douglas, claims in his journals that he had an encounter with two raptors of immense size in Landsborough River valley (1870s), and shot and ate them. Douglas' observations on wildlife are generally trustworthy; a more probable explanation, given that the alleged three-metre wingspan of Douglas' birds is unlikely to have been more than a rough estimate, is that the birds were Eyles' Harriers. Many important features Douglas describes do not match that of the latter bird however, and precisely match the former.

In 1860 a young man traverrsing thick bush in the Canterbury Ranges was startled by the appearence of what he described as "a behemoth of a bird" which shaded him with its huge shadow. When he reached town he told his tale, and was suprised to hear that many others had experienced much the same thing.

I got a story from an elderly priest (Yes, a priest) who told me that in the 1950's he lived in Otago, and would sometimes witness massive birds flying in the canopy. He was told by his teacher that the birds were predatory and should be avoided.

Miss Janet McCarthy, a school teacher, was exploring caves on Mount Aspiring, when she found herself cornered by a very big bird which she estimated had a 3 metre wingspan, and was most similar to a hawk of all the birds she had ever seen. The bird surveyed her for a moment, then flew off. As it flew away, Miss Janet claimed to notice another, similarly sized bird only a few metres from the other, which also flew away. It is interesting that she derscribed the birds as Hawk like, not eagle-like which would imply the Haasts bird. This may mean the bird was in fact a different species? If she overestimated the size of the animal, it may have been a remnant Eyles' Harrier, which is more hawk-like than the giant eagle.

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In more recent years, fewer reports have emerged. During the summer of 1976 a group of tourist driving down the desert road noticed a giant bird with a truly incredible wingspan gliding across the dessert landscape. This report is likely a hoax, as Haasts Eagle had a relatively small wingspan in comparison to itsbody size and the desert was not its ideal choice of habitat.

In the same area as Charles Douglas' encounter occured, two woman tramping were amazed at the appearence of a very large bird standing, wings tucked in, beisde a dead ram. The woman were terrified and nearly fainted when the bird opened its wings out to 3 metres and flew away. This sighting was reported in 1991.

Early this year my father told me about an associate in a mountainous regoin down in the south island who claimed to see two giant birds land in the snow. He said he thought I'd be interested.

In addition to the occasional sightings, Earl Jean, an ornithologist, supposedly came into possesion of an intact 3 metre wing of a bird shot down over Mount Aspiring in 1897. He decided it was that of the Haasts Eagle and began planning an expedition to find a living specimen, but died before the project was completed. I can find no information as to what became of the wing.

As an interesting final note, in the parts of the South Island where giant birds have been sighted there is an slightly higher than normal amount of livestock reported missing from farms...

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Giant Haast's eagle attacking New Zealand moa. Created by John Megahan.

Haast’s eagle was the largest eagle ever to have lived and is the only eagle in the world ever to have been top predator of its ecosystem. Haast’s eagle was a large eagle with a low, narrow skull and an elongated beak. The males were smaller than the females. It had relatively short wings for its size: these were designed for flapping flight not for soaring. Its wing structure also helped it to catch and subdue prey as large as, or larger than, the eagle itself, and was better suited for fast, manoeuvrable flight in dense forest. Because of its large size, Haast’s eagle was approaching the upper limit of size for flapping flight –if it got any bigger it would have had to rely on gliding. Its leg bones were better suited for perching or for gripping prey than for walking about on the ground. The structure of the foot and length of the talons meant that Haast’s eagle could apply much greater force with its feet than other birds of prey. The talons could stab several centimetres into flesh, and often punctured bones as well. Weight: approximately 10-13kg; Wingspan: up to 2.6m for a large female. According to a Maori myth the Haast's Eagle made the following cry: "Hokioi-hokioi".

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Lots of info about this eagle at this link

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News Moa hunting resumes after fresh 'evidence' Last updated 00:00 01/01/2009

New South Wales natural science researcher Rex Gilroy said he was closing in on the colony of the presumed-extinct little scrub moa in the Urewera Ranges. Mr Gilroy, a cryptozoologist, who studies "hidden" animals _ said he had evidence of a small colony in the Ureweras. "As far as I'm concerned, they're definitely out there." Mr Gilroy and his wife Heather plan to arrive in New Zealand in late February and spend several nights in the Ureweras to stake out the site with a camera "for as long as it takes" . However, Hawke's Bay cryptozoology researcher Tony Lucas is keeping an open mind on the possibility of moa still being alive in the Ureweras, but thinks the evidence could point to emus. After the Ureweras expedition Mr Gilroy plans to visit eight sites throughout the South Island, from the Abel Tasman National Park to Lake Te Anau, to investigate other moa sightings. The possibility of moas existing in Fiordland has also been stoked by an Auckland tramper who auctioned off photos, supposedly of a moa, which he captured while tramping in Fiordland last year.

The photos, including images of footprints and of a 1.8m-plus tall bird, were sold for more than $350 by the tramper, who goes under the seller name Andrewdb on Trade Me. "I was tramping in Fiordland last Monday and as I came up over a rise, there in front of me was the largest bird I've ever seen," his description of the encounter on the website says. The auction started a lively debate, with one member stating: "... all back country Kiwis know that the moa's alive and well, we just didn't want any bloody tourists finding out." Several moa "sightings" have been reported over the years, including that of West Coast personality Paddy Freaney, whose 1993 sighting in the Craigieburn Valley in Canterbury received international attention. The sighting and out-of-focus photograph of what Mr Freaney said was a 2m running bird were taken seriously by the Department of Conservation, which investigated without finding any conclusive proof. Yesterday, DOC Te Anau area manager Reg Kemper said he had never heard of any moa sightings in Fiordland but did not rule out the possibility.

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64 year old Gilroy, a cryptozoologist (studies hidden animals) has discovered 35 separate ground prints and believes this suggests a colony of up to 15 little scrub moa -amomalopteryx didiformis. ''I'm convinced the little scrub moa is still alive. I certainly have evidence of a small colony in the Ureweras,'' says Gilroy.

Gilroy who is based at the Australia-Pacific Unknown Animals Research Centre, west of Sydney discovered evidence of a nest in a rotten, hollowed kauri trunk and a track through the forest in November 2007. He made a cast of the prints which he matched with the male scrub moa he’d seen in the Auckland Museum. The males of the species stood 90 centimeters tall, notably smaller than the female at about 1.5 metres.

Background Moas were large flightless birds endemic to New Zealand. The Giant Moa was one of the biggest birds ever known, at three metres tall, weighting around 250 kilograms. The smallest moa species was slightly bigger than a turkey and stood half a metre tall. Their earliest fossils date from the upper Miocene era, approximately 15 million years. Moas had huge skeletons with small, broad, flattened skulls, short bills, and no wings. In New Zealand, moas took the place of absent grazing and browsing mammals, and fed mainly on grass, leaves, and fruits. Moa were hunted by Haast's Eagle, the world's largest eagle, which is also now extinct. The extinction of the moa species is generally attributed to hunting and forest clearance by Māori, who used moas for food, their bones for implements and ornaments; the eggs were used for water bottles.

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The mid to late 1800's produced many reports of large birds witnessed inisolated areas of bush; this was an era of exploration, regions were being opened up for settlement. Many reports focused on the South Island, as gold prospectors and surveyors pushed into the isolated interior areas. One of the most curious reports of this period includes a confrontation between a sheep dog and a Moa, the Moa turned on the dog after being harassed, once the dog backed off, the Moa was witnessed to bob its headup and down in the direction of the dog in what seemed to be a possible threat posture. 1931 and 1960 saw further reports of large birds in the bush of the South Island, in 1989 a pair of birds were observed by trampers, once more in the South Island. All accounts seemed to involve the large species of Moa. In 1990 there were several sightings of large Birds, in the Arthur's Pass district, and tracks were found on two occasions.

The most recent sighting caught World Media attention.On January 20th 1993 three companions were tramping the Craigieburn Rangearea, Paddy Freaney, Sam Waby and Rochelle Rafferty. Mr. Waby paused at a secluded stream for a drink; Paddy Freaney's attention was drawn to a large bird which was nearby watching them. Freaney drew the attention of his associates to the bird, which then panicked and fled. Freaney chased the bird, with camera in hand, and at an approximated 35 meters got the now famous photo of the bird; he further discovered and photographed, after loosing sight of it, wet bird footprints on a rock. These pictures were shown to a Department of Conservation Officer who expressed the opinion that the bird seemed very much like Megapteryx didinus, a sub-alpine species of moa known to have populated the South Island.

Computer analysis was performed on the photo by Canterbury University,specialists at the University expressed the view that the photograph was of a genuine large bird and not some prop stage to look like one. Deer and other four footed animals were further ruled out. To add to the weight of evidence in support of the photograph being genuine,in the following year, 1994, a physician was tramping in exactly the same area the snapshot was taken; he came across browsing damage that was consistent with what is known of Moa feeding habits. In light of the corroborating evidence the Department of Conservation made no attempt to follow up on what certainly would have been the find of thecentury.

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Thread: BIG CAT SIGHTINGS - Even in NEW ZEALAND! A global phenomena...Are there sightings in your country?

Wonder how ancient the birthday comet is... I understand the folks in your area are able to see Comet Lovejoy first thing in the morning. But, by the middle of January, the northern hemisphere will be able to see it.

Love and joy to you sister. Happy holidays.

Op can't explain anything. She is merely learning as she goes, cutting and pasting.

Hiya isis,

Love and joy to you, too.

Funny you should mention the comet, earlier i posted something about the 'star' sign here

Thread: SHARE INFO and VIDS HERE-NIBIRU!!! POLE SHIFT(S),CHESIRE MOON,SECOND SUN/ MOON,ANOMALIES of SUN,MOON,STARS,PLANETS,NEUMAYER ,INUIT WARNINGS (Page 25)

And i couldn't help wondering if there is a connection between the two things...

Love you sister xo

Sorry,you won't be allowed. The Labour government that ran this country for 3 terms enshrined the rights of Chinese and refugees from African or muslim nations to come here ahead of those who may be productive,all so the Prime Minister of the day could advance her objectives..1 of which was a desire to lead the U.N and further down the track,when the people who deny our history get their way and have us converted to a Republic,our 1st President.We now are paying for her duplicity,everywhere you go here you notice the changing face of NZ. But you are right it is still awesome and it's not to late to stem the tide..on the positive side Chinese migration has the potential to draw Maori and Pakeha together in a fight against an enemy we have in common.

oh yes, this I believe is at Bennydale, one of the sites I was lead to some years ago. Interesting energies there.

Una go there if you can. It is a remarkable place. I have spent time there, and what an emotional experience it was

the family whose land its on were welcoming and friendlly and i also learnt much there.

The energies there are mindblowing and beautiful.

I would love to go back.

Good to see you here, sister.

My starpeople sent me there years ago... just days before Ruapehu blew for the first time. The energies from there are in direct connection with Ruapehu.. Ley line, I guess. I knew it was going to blow.
The energies there needing opening up again, at that time.

I believe much of nz has now been re-activated.

Exciting times.

And central plateau and other volcanoes are changing and awakening also. Do you keep an eye on the quake thread?

There are frequent swarms happening at the volcanoes, and other changes happening

Thread: WTF IS GOING ON SEISMICALLY ALL OF NZ!! BIG SWARMS EVERYWHERE, REAL BIG PACIFIC EQ COMING - NEW ZEALAND and KERMADEC EQ,VOLCANO,SKY WATCH(OZ TOO)

I just realised what i wrote.It should have said, the energies there needed reopening at that time.:-D

This is correct. NZ energies have been opened and reactivated. Started in 85.

Yes, we live in exciting and interesting times eh!

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I would love to meet you una, do you get over this way?

we have many common interests..

Sadly not very often. The only wheels I have are a pushbike and I don't fancy trying to bike over that big hill that is between us. Alas I am but a poor uni student. Can't afford a car.

Yes, I would love to sit and chat with you, methinks we have more in common than you realise.

I did leave you my cellphone number in the other thread. :-)

Which thread?

We probably went to school together!

I grew up in the fairfield-chartwell area..

I reckon you would enjoy meeting ra too.

You are most welcome to come and stay, what about a bus, i could collect you from tauranga city, i go there about once a fortnight.

Pm me your phone number..

I never went to school in hams. Grew up in Napier. Sorry can't pm.. I think it was the star thread I left it on.. will just check.