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Obama thinking about vaccinating kids against anthrax... never tested on kids of course

 
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Gulf syndrome in kids? YES WE CAN!

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Possible study of anthrax vaccine’s effectiveness in children stirs debate

The Obama administration is wrestling with the thorny question of whether scientists should inject healthy children with the anthrax vaccine to see whether the shots would safely protect them against a bioterrorism attack.

The other option is to wait until an attack happens and then try to gather data from children whose parents agree to inoculate them in the face of an actual threat.

A key working group of federal advisers in September endorsed testing, sparking objections from those who consider that step unethical, unnecessary and dangerous. The National Biodefense Science Board (NBSB), which advises the federal government, is to meet Friday to vote on its working group’s recommendation.

“At the end of the day, do we want to wait for an attack and give it to millions and millions of children and collect data at that time?” said Daniel B. Fagbuyiof Children’s National Medical Center in Washington, who chaired the group. “Or do we want to say: ‘How do we best protect our children?’ We can take care of Grandma and Grandpa, Uncle and Auntie. But right now, we have nothing for the children.”

The vaccine has been tested extensively in adults and has been administered to more than 2.6 million people in the military. But the shots have never been tested on or given to children, leaving it uncertain how well the vaccine works in younger people and at what dose, and whether it is safe. Unlike with measles, mumps and other diseases, the chance that children will be exposed to anthrax is theoretical, making the risk-benefit calculus of testing a vaccine on them much more questionable.
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are they expecting an anthrax attack? , I smell a false falg
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That's the mark of murdering Communists. Once they take over your government, the lifespan of the citizens DECLINES, and that's a fact. Of course, they like to have fun while they're killing you off, so they add some humor to their method by injecting you with shit to "SEE" what happens huffy
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I got a great solution....let him vaccinate his kids then somewhere down the road let see if it effective, what are the side effects and so on.....
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Obama needs to start shoving lots of vaccines up his wife's twat considering how disease ridden that thing is before he talks about vaccinating our precious children!
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genocide in our faces.

arrest the mass murderer.
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ANTI-SQUALENE ANTIBODIES LINK GULF WAR SYNDROME TO ANTHRAX VACCINE

Data published in the February 2000 and August 2002 issues of Experimental and Molecular Pathology strongly suggests that Gulf War Syndrome is caused by a vaccine contaminated with squalene.

The August 2002 article is entitled "Antibodies to Squalene in Recipients of Anthrax Vaccine" (Exp. Mol. Pathol. 73,19-27 (2002)).

Squalene was found by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in five lots of the AVIP anthrax vaccine. The discovery of serum anti-squalene antibodies and the development of a test to detect these antibodies has made it possible to see that links appear to exist between the contaminated AVIP vaccine lots, the illness experienced by post-1997 vaccine recipients, the illness experienced by non-deployed 1990-1991-era patients, and the illness in deployed 1990-1991-era patients that has been referred to as GWS.

The data establishing these links is presented in the peer-reviewed February 2000 and August 2002 articles. The published findings (1) strongly suggest that the GWS-like illness being reported by all of the various patient groups is the same illness, (2) strongly suggest that the contaminated vaccine caused the illness in the AVIP group, and (3) further suggest that squalene contamination of one or more 1990-1991-era vaccines accounts for the GWS cases from that era.


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FDA Tests Find Squalene in Anthrax Vaccine

Government Admits Banned Substance Exists in Vaccines, but Maintains It Does No Harm

By Michael Devitt
After years of repeated obfuscation, the federal government finally admitted that a banned chemical additive linked to the Gulf War syndrome has been found in some of the vaccines developed to protect military personnel from biological attack.


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Didn't the antrax vaccine cause the Gulf War Syndrome back in the 90's?
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Over my dead body will my child get an anthrax vaccine! This motherfucker better not get re- elected!
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Didn't the antrax vaccine cause the Gulf War Syndrome back in the 90's?
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Yep.
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Gulf syndrome in kids? YES WE CAN!

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Possible study of anthrax vaccine’s effectiveness in children stirs debate

The Obama administration is wrestling with the thorny question of whether scientists should inject healthy children with the anthrax vaccine to see whether the shots would safely protect them against a bioterrorism attack.

The other option is to wait until an attack happens and then try to gather data from children whose parents agree to inoculate them in the face of an actual threat.

A key working group of federal advisers in September endorsed testing, sparking objections from those who consider that step unethical, unnecessary and dangerous. The National Biodefense Science Board (NBSB), which advises the federal government, is to meet Friday to vote on its working group’s recommendation.

“At the end of the day, do we want to wait for an attack and give it to millions and millions of children and collect data at that time?” said Daniel B. Fagbuyiof Children’s National Medical Center in Washington, who chaired the group. “Or do we want to say: ‘How do we best protect our children?’ We can take care of Grandma and Grandpa, Uncle and Auntie. But right now, we have nothing for the children.”

The vaccine has been tested extensively in adults and has been administered to more than 2.6 million people in the military. But the shots have never been tested on or given to children, leaving it uncertain how well the vaccine works in younger people and at what dose, and whether it is safe. Unlike with measles, mumps and other diseases, the chance that children will be exposed to anthrax is theoretical, making the risk-benefit calculus of testing a vaccine on them much more questionable.

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He is an idiot! He is NOT a medical! So what? He is maybe a puppet of the pharma idnustrie, that yes, of course....ok, let start with HIS KIDS!damneddamneddamned
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the anthrax scare is so 1990's and the swine flu scare didnt manifest the way they wanted it to. Obama will have to think of a better way for us moms to haul our kids into vaccination clinics because this is a major epic FAIL!!! LOL. Moms around the USA didn't haul our kids in for swine flu and we sure as hell wont haul them in for anthrax. Hell, most of the young moms were born when the anthrax scare started so they won't give 2 shits about the vaccination for their kid.
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Didn't the antrax vaccine cause the Gulf War Syndrome back in the 90's?
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As any kid every contracted anthrax while inside the United States?

If the answer is no, then a vaccine programme is a waste of time and money, even if it was shown to be completely safe.
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Religious exemption...I have to fill three of them out every year for the school anyway...LOL, they never ask what religion...I hate to lie...

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Well yes, maybe the kids get ill, and then they put them in the fema camps? Yes, of course.....carantene....s226
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First let me say this is a bad idea for any human to take this vaccine let alone kids. I was MEDICALLY RETIRED from the Army in 2005 because the Anthrax vaccines I received from 2002 to 2004 led to the development of Multiple Sclerosis an Auto Immune Disease/Neurological Disorder. It said it right on the warning label "...although infrequent you could develop Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Multiple Sclerosis..."
oh noes I got caughted!
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genocide in our faces.

arrest the mass murderer.
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bump
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As any kid every contracted anthrax while inside the United States?

If the answer is no, then a vaccine programme is a waste of time and money, even if it was shown to be completely safe.
 Quoting: Prime Merlinian 4019279


Maybe there will be an anthrax 'scare' which will send parents running to their pediatricians for the vaccine. They're trying to make it mandatory now for the HPV vaccine...boys and girls.
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First let me say this is a bad idea for any human to take this vaccine let alone kids. I was MEDICALLY RETIRED from the Army in 2005 because the Anthrax vaccines I received from 2002 to 2004 led to the development of Multiple Sclerosis an Auto Immune Disease/Neurological Disorder. It said it right on the warning label "...although infrequent you could develop Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Multiple Sclerosis..."
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Gosh, Sarge, that's terrible. Sorry to hear that. But thanks for putting your life on the line for THE PEOPLE.

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First let me say this is a bad idea for any human to take this vaccine let alone kids. I was MEDICALLY RETIRED from the Army in 2005 because the Anthrax vaccines I received from 2002 to 2004 led to the development of Multiple Sclerosis an Auto Immune Disease/Neurological Disorder. It said it right on the warning label "...although infrequent you could develop Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Multiple Sclerosis..."
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Gosh, Sarge, that's terrible. Sorry to hear that. But thanks for putting your life on the line for THE PEOPLE.

superman
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DITTO
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suicide

That is not a gun he is putting in his mouth, it's a syringe filled with mercury.
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OVER MY DEAD BODY WILL ANYONE USE MY CHILD FOR THIS EVIL AGENDA. bump
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Good God. When will America wake up?
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I was given double injections of that crap when they lost my shot records...Had tumors in my lymph nodes a few years later...Doctor treated me with 6 weeks of cipro when he discovered I had been double vaccinated.
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I say let Obama and his family be the case study before he makes a decree over the general population.
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they arrested her not long ago....for child molestation charges.....I would say she was about to come forward with some info....

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First let me say this is a bad idea for any human to take this vaccine let alone kids. I was MEDICALLY RETIRED from the Army in 2005 because the Anthrax vaccines I received from 2002 to 2004 led to the development of Multiple Sclerosis an Auto Immune Disease/Neurological Disorder. It said it right on the warning label "...although infrequent you could develop Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Multiple Sclerosis..."
 Quoting: Sgt. Stedanko


Gosh, Sarge, that's terrible. Sorry to hear that. But thanks for putting your life on the line for THE PEOPLE.

superman
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First let me say this is a bad idea for any human to take this vaccine let alone kids. I was MEDICALLY RETIRED from the Army in 2005 because the Anthrax vaccines I received from 2002 to 2004 led to the development of Multiple Sclerosis an Auto Immune Disease/Neurological Disorder. It said it right on the warning label "...although infrequent you could develop Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Multiple Sclerosis..."
 Quoting: Sgt. Stedanko


Gosh, Sarge, that's terrible. Sorry to hear that. But thanks for putting your life on the line for THE PEOPLE.

superman
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1507639


DITTO
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hf
oh noes I got caughted!
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I say let Obama and his family be the case study before he makes a decree over the general population.
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antibiotics that kill and cripple,

in case they can`t get you with the vaccines,

be very careful people,

your life is hanging by a thread,

the FDA is all about genocide!

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