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The flood of the earth in noah's day killed around 7 billion people. This month the 7 billionth child will be born.

 
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The flood of the earth in noah's day killed around 7 billion people. This month the 7 billionth child will be born.
I bye no means believe that one person can tell you when the world will end with precise dates/times. It is impossible for one to know. However, isn't this interesting?



Clip...The first of these is the acceptance that the flood was worldwide. This is made clear by the Biblical record repeatedly.

Secondly is the time frame from creation to the flood. A number of figures are available on this - even people like Newton and Keppler did their calculations and came up with similar time periods. The best known calculation is of course Ussher's time of 1656 years.

Thirdly, the rate of reproduction - using conservative figures of population growth based on the information provided in the Biblical record, then the figure arrived at would be around 7 Billion people.


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The world couldn't handle 7billion then, nor can it now.
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by no means am I being a s/a I reaaly want to know the answer, how do you know there was 7 billion people here in those day?
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A tight reading of the genealogy using the Masoretic Text of Genesis adds up to 1,656 years from Adam to Noah. (That is, there do no appear to be any gaps in the genealogy from Adam to Noah). 1656 years is more than sufficient time to completely fill up the earth with people. A conservative population growth calculation would place the population at the time of the flood as 7 billion people at least, perhaps it was even higher. The time period from Adam to Noah turns out to be about 2256 years using the LXX and other versions of the Hebrew Bible such as the Vorlage Text.

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Thanks for your answer :)
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I do believe we are living in the end times, wont be long, were going home :)
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by no means am I being a s/a I reaaly want to know the answer, how do you know there was 7 billion people here in those day?
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Scholars have done a lot of research, many have come to the same conclusion given the times and the reproduction rate with many women having hundreds of children at a time.

And to fix my typo in my second post *incase
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What's happening right now is global flooding. Parts where never get flooded, get it and severe. It broke records. And now my country is very severe now. It is a Noah flood whether you realise it or not.
Nature always have mechanism to deal with all lives. Human race is way too long ruled this world, selfish, useless, it's their turn now to be exterminated. If I were mother nature, I would do the same as what she's doing.
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7 billion people on earth during the time of the great flood? I seriously doubt that number.
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I do believe we are living in the end times, wont be long, were going home :)
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Yes. Only our physicals end. we are the souls and we are going home :)
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7 billion people on earth during the time of the great flood? I seriously doubt that number.
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I don't see how you can doubt that! Look at the production rate in the bible.
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God made 7 billion people but created men on the 6th day. And on the 7th day he rested. And afterwards destroyd 7 billion and then he rested from his work.

Only the 144.000 survives out of 7 billion people.

Jesus said: "As in the Days of Noah so shall be the coming of the Son Men"

Only 8 people survived the Flood.
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7 billion people on earth during the time of the great flood? I seriously doubt that number.
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I don't see how you can doubt that! Look at the production rate in the bible.
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Oh, we'll if you want to use the bible as your reference, there is no helping you.
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Yes we are going home. Cheers :)
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A tight reading of the genealogy using the Masoretic Text of Genesis adds up to 1,656 years from Adam to Noah. (That is, there do no appear to be any gaps in the genealogy from Adam to Noah). 1656 years is more than sufficient time to completely fill up the earth with people. A conservative population growth calculation would place the population at the time of the flood as 7 billion people at least, perhaps it was even higher. The time period from Adam to Noah turns out to be about 2256 years using the LXX and other versions of the Hebrew Bible such as the Vorlage Text.

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Sorry blind one... there were NO WHERE near 7Bn people during that mythical age, and there certainly wasn't a global flood.

Not to mention that the 13 or so couples on that ARK would have never been able to produce the population of people today.

The bible is, and has always been a failed lie to control the people. If you want to really really know God, just open your eyes.
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I bye no means believe that one person can tell you when the world will end with precise dates/times. It is impossible for one to know. However, isn't this interesting?



Clip...The first of these is the acceptance that the flood was worldwide. This is made clear by the Biblical record repeatedly.

Secondly is the time frame from creation to the flood. A number of figures are available on this - even people like Newton and Keppler did their calculations and came up with similar time periods. The best known calculation is of course Ussher's time of 1656 years.

Thirdly, the rate of reproduction - using conservative figures of population growth based on the information provided in the Biblical record, then the figure arrived at would be around 7 Billion people.


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The world couldn't handle 7billion then, nor can it now.
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bsflag Sorry.
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A tight reading of the genealogy using the Masoretic Text of Genesis adds up to 1,656 years from Adam to Noah. (That is, there do no appear to be any gaps in the genealogy from Adam to Noah). 1656 years is more than sufficient time to completely fill up the earth with people. A conservative population growth calculation would place the population at the time of the flood as 7 billion people at least, perhaps it was even higher. The time period from Adam to Noah turns out to be about 2256 years using the LXX and other versions of the Hebrew Bible such as the Vorlage Text.

[link to ldolphin.org]
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Sorry blind one... there were NO WHERE near 7Bn people during that mythical age, and there certainly wasn't a global flood.

Not to mention that the 13 or so couples on that ARK would have never been able to produce the population of people today.

The bible is, and has always been a failed lie to control the people. If you want to really really know God, just open your eyes.
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It was a mythical age?? LOL that time period never existed? I can't really take much of what you say seriously when you think that time period was a myth....lol
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really.. the world did not have no 7billion people then.. wtf.. thats about one of the stupidest thinngs I have read today... New kind of stupid here
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Dude, you're a fucking moron!
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reincarnation anyone?cool2
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A tight reading of the genealogy using the Masoretic Text of Genesis adds up to 1,656 years from Adam to Noah. (That is, there do no appear to be any gaps in the genealogy from Adam to Noah). 1656 years is more than sufficient time to completely fill up the earth with people. A conservative population growth calculation would place the population at the time of the flood as 7 billion people at least, perhaps it was even higher. The time period from Adam to Noah turns out to be about 2256 years using the LXX and other versions of the Hebrew Bible such as the Vorlage Text.

[link to ldolphin.org]
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not without modern farming techniques.

They would have had to have internal combustion engines, an understanding of chemistry and metallurgy, and the hybridization of plants. Not saying it didn't happen but then why did it take Noah so long to build that boat? Didn't he have some power tools?
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7 billion....

More like 14 billion.

Don't forget Atlantis and Lemuria (very large continents) which would make 9 continents in the old old world.
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I bye no means believe that one person can tell you when the world will end with precise dates/times. It is impossible for one to know. However, isn't this interesting?



Clip...The first of these is the acceptance that the flood was worldwide. This is made clear by the Biblical record repeatedly.

Secondly is the time frame from creation to the flood. A number of figures are available on this - even people like Newton and Keppler did their calculations and came up with similar time periods. The best known calculation is of course Ussher's time of 1656 years.

Thirdly, the rate of reproduction - using conservative figures of population growth based on the information provided in the Biblical record, then the figure arrived at would be around 7 Billion people.


[link to wiki.answers.com]


The world couldn't handle 7billion then, nor can it now.
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Or using even Barry Setterfield's derived value of the Flood occurring about 3,545 B.C.

Remembering that a Year is the amount of some measurement of time that it takes the Earth to orbit the Sun... it can never be surely said to be so many clock days, or clock months, or clock time. A Year is a Year whether it is 1 million atomic clock seconds long, or 10,000 atomic clock seconds long. The assumption of the naysayers is that the Earth has always taken the same number of rotational days to orbit the Sun as it does now. Such is totally unprovable and as much an article of Faith in Science as accepting the Flood of Noah is an article of Faith in the Bible account. Either way its by faith in something you were not there to see or not see.

Adams 930 years is how many rotations of the Earth around its axis long? Trick question. How many orbital miles traveled? No one knows at all, though many assume they have reason to assume or "know".

Assume that Adam and Eve had at least three sons and two daughters. Abel gets killed before reproducing. Assume then that each brother-sister marriage likewise had two sons and two daughters. Expand it on out over 10 generations (9 after Adam and Eve)... one can quite reasonably arrive at a human population at the time of the flood of several Tens of Billions of human beings... one can also with other parameters arrive at a pre-flood human population of around only 1,076 people or so... Population growth 'studies' have a huge number of usually unreported built in assumptions.

If Adam and Eve had a 'son and a daughter' every year of his life of 930 years, starting at the age of 130, then Adam and Eve would have had by themselves over 1,600 children, 800 sons and 800 daughters. Acknowledge too that there are in fact even today some men who have fathered over a hundred children. Assuming Brother-Sister marriage for the next generation (so what if some see that as a sin where no sin had been charged by God against them)... those 800 couples each having two sons and two daughters each , would produce for the third generation, 800*2 = 1,600 new couples. Then assume 1st cousin marriage, for the next generation, and 2nd cousin marriage for the generations after that. Not that this has anything to do with population growth.

One study I did showed that the population could have been way up there around 270 Billion people... speculations about the population at the time of the flood are just that speculations... assuming it as a 'case study' of possible population growth scenarios.

BTW, you can bury a 270 Billion human population in the oceans, within decades there would be nothing left of the 'bodies' and 'bones'. And bury all their works under miles deep layers of mud and sediment.

A Global Flood would have completely resurfaced and rearranged all the land forms, the coasts, etc. It is highly possible in the advent of a Global Flood, that the Garden of Eden and even the location of pre-flood man's civilizations were not even close to what we call the 'middle east' today, for all we really know, Antarctica and Australia and Java were the seats of those world civilizations, or even the Americas.

The now "standardized" arguments against a Global Flood of Noah are poorly thought out and suffer the most extreme tunnel vision. If the human population at the time of teh Flood had never grown beyond 1,076 people or so ( the minimalistic approach to the biblical data) then even a local flood could have seriously threatened to exterminate all of mankind, and 'his world'... his civilization. But then a person can walk at least 4 miles a day, even if he has to gather food, etc. on the way, and how far could they have walked at 4 miles a day (a fifteen minute walk for most adults in good health) and given 120 years to walk f 4 miles a day they could have walked around the planet Earth several times in that amount of time.. so why build a boat to escape a 'local flood' when you know it is coming 120 years in advance and can just walk away from where it will be happening?
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A tight reading of the genealogy using the Masoretic Text of Genesis adds up to 1,656 years from Adam to Noah. (That is, there do no appear to be any gaps in the genealogy from Adam to Noah). 1656 years is more than sufficient time to completely fill up the earth with people. A conservative population growth calculation would place the population at the time of the flood as 7 billion people at least, perhaps it was even higher. The time period from Adam to Noah turns out to be about 2256 years using the LXX and other versions of the Hebrew Bible such as the Vorlage Text.

[link to ldolphin.org]
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not without modern farming techniques.

They would have had to have internal combustion engines, an understanding of chemistry and metallurgy, and the hybridization of plants. Not saying it didn't happen but then why did it take Noah so long to build that boat? Didn't he have some power tools?
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Imagine all the 'building permits' Noah would have had to get in today's world.

Hey, try building a wooden ship the size of a modern battleship all by your self, or with the help of you kids... even with 'power tools'... how long would it take you?

And who's to say they didn't have such similar things back then. Perhaps the evidence is buried now about two to three miles under your very feet? Care to did down there and find out?
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I bye no means believe that one person can tell you when the world will end with precise dates/times. It is impossible for one to know. However, isn't this interesting?



Clip...The first of these is the acceptance that the flood was worldwide. This is made clear by the Biblical record repeatedly.

Secondly is the time frame from creation to the flood. A number of figures are available on this - even people like Newton and Keppler did their calculations and came up with similar time periods. The best known calculation is of course Ussher's time of 1656 years.

Thirdly, the rate of reproduction - using conservative figures of population growth based on the information provided in the Biblical record, then the figure arrived at would be around 7 Billion people.


[link to wiki.answers.com]


The world couldn't handle 7billion then, nor can it now.
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A tight reading of the genealogy using the Masoretic Text of Genesis adds up to 1,656 years from Adam to Noah. (That is, there do no appear to be any gaps in the genealogy from Adam to Noah). 1656 years is more than sufficient time to completely fill up the earth with people. A conservative population growth calculation would place the population at the time of the flood as 7 billion people at least, perhaps it was even higher. The time period from Adam to Noah turns out to be about 2256 years using the LXX and other versions of the Hebrew Bible such as the Vorlage Text.

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not without modern farming techniques.

They would have had to have internal combustion engines, an understanding of chemistry and metallurgy, and the hybridization of plants. Not saying it didn't happen but then why did it take Noah so long to build that boat? Didn't he have some power tools?
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Imagine all the 'building permits' Noah would have had to get in today's world.

Hey, try building a wooden ship the size of a modern battleship all by your self, or with the help of you kids... even with 'power tools'... how long would it take you?

And who's to say they didn't have such similar things back then. Perhaps the evidence is buried now about two to three miles under your very feet? Care to did down there and find out?
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Agreed. If a global catastrophe happened today and the survivors lost all technology, in a few thousand years the decendants of those survivors wouldn't know what lay beneath their feet.

Also, keep in mind the strange "artifacts" that have been found that resemble modern technologies.
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7 billion....

More like 14 billion.

Don't forget Atlantis and Lemuria (very large continents) which would make 9 continents in the old old world.
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where the hell does anyone get those numbers? It could have been 6 billion or maybe 10 for all we know. Did they take census readings back then?
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by no means am I being a s/a I reaaly want to know the answer, how do you know there was 7 billion people here in those day?
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Scholars have done a lot of research, many have come to the same conclusion given the times and the reproduction rate with many women having hundreds of children at a time.

And to fix my typo in my second post *incase
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Haha, what? How did that work?

Either the human gestation period was only a matter of weeks back in biblical days, women were routinely having octuplets at every pregnancy, or they spent literally all their time from birth to 100 years old knocked up. None of those is even remotely plausible.

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If you think about it, we could already be at 7 billion or even higher. The Census is an estimate not an exact number. Think of all the people in this world who are not accounted for because they do not live in populated areas.
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If you think about it, we could already be at 7 billion or even higher. The Census is an estimate not an exact number. Think of all the people in this world who are not accounted for because they do not live in populated areas.
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...People living in unpopulated areas is an oxymoron. If people are living there, it's a populated area.
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God.. what morons. First of all.. the Biblical flood never happened. A localized megatsunami, or whatever probably made people think the whole world was flooded.. and 2 there was no ark.
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I dont give S--T about the 7 billion number.
One thing I know for certain is that there is not enought water on earth to flood the planet to a depth of mount Arafat.

So the Noah story is BS anyway.

Why argue semantics when the proposition is false anyway.

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